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Friday, March 27, 2020

The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States topped 100,000 on Friday as infections quickly spread to new areas of the country. As of Friday evening, the US has at least 100,013 known cases of coronavirus and 1,545 people have died, according to CNN's tally of cases reported by health officials. ... For the third day in a row, health officials across the US reported a record number of deaths in a single day since the pandemic outbreak. At least 359 coronavirus-related deaths were reported Friday.

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... and the testing in the United States has not yet fully ramped up.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 09:37 PM | Reply

----- just got real.

#2 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-27 09:38 PM | Reply

This will infect every person on earth. Trump needs to get the hospital beds and respirators faster. He's already made a sickening #TrumpBodyCount.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-27 09:40 PM | Reply

Did I hear an Easter? No, seriously - Is business opening on that beautiful holiday?

Trump is a ------- moron.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-27 09:40 PM | Reply

Dayum... this morning it was 82k and some change.

sooooooo much winnnnning.

stupid pigs.

#5 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-27 09:58 PM | Reply

Gawd bless Trump!

Nulli and Mattress resident atheists.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-27 09:59 PM | Reply

We're ------.

#7 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-27 10:00 PM | Reply

@#7 ... We're ------. ...

I am reminded of this thread ( drudge.com ) and how people travel within the Country.

Kids who partied on the beach of Ft Lauderdale flew back to homes across the eastern two-thirds of the Country. And that is just those who were on the beach.

I have a bad feeling about this....

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thought it would hit 100k by noon.

Damn virus is a slacker. It's only here to get free stuff from the government - unlimited hosts who should have been given advance warning to better protect themselves.

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-27 10:07 PM | Reply

I have a bad feeling about this....
#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Me too.

I got a music thread and a bottle to get my mind off this. Please do the same.

And it's good to hear from you Lamp.

#10 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-27 10:10 PM | Reply

@#10 ... I got a music thread ...

I wanted to start a music thread, but I ran out of thread-start thingies today.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 10:19 PM | Reply

What's the over/under until it reaches one million?

#12 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-03-27 11:03 PM | Reply

Anybody remember Captain Tripps?

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 11:12 PM | Reply

That's less than 2 percent of infected dying, and they are mostly worthless moldy oldies.... get back to werk peons! - Trump, MB & Assoc

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-27 11:16 PM | Reply

That's less than 2 percent of infected dying, and they are mostly worthless moldy oldies.... get back to werk peons! - Trump, MB & Assoc
#14 | POSTED BY CORKY

That's the exact message I took home from Tucker Carlson tonight.

Ironic considering it was he who seemed to convince Trump that this was a serious situation, which led to Trump changing his tone almost overnight.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-03-27 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Number of people over 65 in the US = @ 50 million.

Minus less than 1500?

It's a start! - Trump, MB and Assoc

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2020-03-27 11:24 PM | Reply

@#15 ... Ironic considering it was he who seemed to convince Trump that this was a serious situation, which led to Trump changing his tone almost overnight. ..

Am I the only one who has a concern with the Fox News opinionators having such an influence on Pres Trump?

The reason they proffer the opinions they do is to attract ratings.

The reason Pres Trump is supposed to do what he does is to benefit the American People.

Someone, please explain to me the correlation between Fox News ratings and the benefit to Americans.


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-27 11:31 PM | Reply

This virus is suffering from TDS.
Hillary lost the election. Get over it! Gawd!

#18 | Posted by anton at 2020-03-27 11:39 PM | Reply

Former Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services administrator Andy Slavitt, whose expertise about the pandemic has been extremely useful, is seeing some good signs amid the horrific growth:

twitter.com

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-27 11:41 PM | Reply

What's the Red State/Blue State case mix?

Asking for Trump's ventilator stash.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-27 11:54 PM | Reply

Praise and thankfulness to Trump is the currency.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-27 11:55 PM | Reply

Hey Republicans, you built this!

All you, 100% yours. Fix it fast, we're waiting. #MAGA

#22 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-03-27 11:57 PM | Reply

we'e still fuc*ed

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-27 11:58 PM | Reply

we're still f*cked.

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-03-28 12:05 AM | Reply

@#19

After reading that twitter thread three times, I can say that the thing I learned is that twitter is probably one of The Worst media for conveying critical information.

I still do not know what Mr Slavitt was trying to convey to his readers.

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-28 12:12 AM | Reply

What's the over/under until it reaches one million?
#12 | POSTED BY MODER8

I put the under at six feet.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 12:18 AM | Reply

"That's less than 2 percent of infected dying"

98% Of Lives Matter!

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 12:26 AM | Reply

This from the usually staid NPR reporting...

U.S. Tops 100,000 Coronavirus Cases, Testing Kits, Equipment Still In Short Supply
www.npr.org

...The United States on Friday surpassed more than 100,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases, doubling the number of known infections counted just three days ago.

Data from Johns Hopkins University, which has been tracking the global spread of the disease, shows 101,657 people have been diagnosed in the U.S. as of Friday evening. More than 1,560 people have died.

The troubling milestone comes a day after the U.S. infection toll rose above that of Italy and China, where the virus was first detected.

It also comes amid warnings from health officials that the pandemic will continue to accelerate in coming weeks.

During the Coronavirus Task Force briefing on Friday, Vice President Pence said more than 685,000 tests for the virus had been performed as of earlier in the day.

He also addressed the cry for more testing kits, ventilators and personal protective gear from health care workers and state leaders, saying there would be an airlift of supplies from around the world.

FEMA administrator Pete Gaynor will also be speaking to all state emergency administrators to advise them to have a plan to use the National Guard to move equipment from stockpiles to hospitals....


"...doubling the number of known infections counted just three days ago..."

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-28 12:31 AM | Reply

@#29 ... A lot of glee on this thread. ...

A lot of projection in your comment.

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-28 12:51 AM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

What's not to be happy about, Trump has this whole thing under control!
Can't wait to go back to normal by Easter.
You're excited too, right?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 01:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"No, it's glee. and not just on this thread."

The Dow is almost to 30,000, and you're not happy?

Oh Well. Some people just love to wallow in their own misery.
Congratulations, You Built That!
#MAGA

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 02:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A lot of glee on this thread."

It's Friday Night, and this party is going till dawn!

President Trump asked Alex Rodriguez for advice on fighting coronavirus
mlb.nbcsports.com

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 02:44 AM | Reply

@#31 ... No, it's glee. ...

What, specifically is the "glee?"

#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-28 02:54 AM | Reply

@#34 ... President Trump asked Alex Rodriguez for advice on fighting coronavirus ...

Oh, dear God, please tell me that did not happen.


(aside to some: this comment of mine is not glee. It is a statement of stunning amazement at the stupidity that seems to reside in the White House.)

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-03-28 03:04 AM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

What, specifically is the "glee?"
#35 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Well, it's a convoluted kind of "logic."

They think we're happy that all these people are dying, because it makes Trump look bad.
They think we're happy that Trump is doing such a bad job on this.

At the same time, they don't think all these people dying makes Trump look bad.
At the same time, they think Trump is doing a pretty good job on this.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 03:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We still have no clue how many people actually have it.

The response to this threat by the conservative administration has been absolutely incompetent. The "confirmed cases" numbers are almost useless.

The only reliable numbers are the number of deaths (I am assuming, though, that we are now testing pretty much any death for coronavirus... otherwise the numbers are still low). Now, in the US, we are up to ~1700 deaths. From that number we can project back the number of infections. We need two assumptions. The average mortality rate, and the average time from infection to death. I would say the time from infection to death is probably 4-5 weeks, but I will be conservative with 3-4. And, I think a good guess at the average mortality rate is ~1% (especially near the beginning, younger people are more likely to get it and spread it).

Based upon those assumptions, we would have had ~170 THOUSAND Americans infected THREE TO FOUR weeks ago. How many MORE people do you think have been infected in the meantime? Especially since it was only around that time that Trump actually admitted that the virus might be kinda bad and that the fire predictions might NOT be just a big liberal hoax.

Feel free to argue my assumptions, and plug your own in to make your own projection. Even the most sycophantic aren't going to be able to argue the numbers aren't scary.

We are screwed. But we will get through it.

#38 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-03-28 08:58 AM | Reply

No, it's glee. and not just on this thread.

#31 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2

You're running out of ways to defend Trump.

You know, the easiest thing is to admit that he is as big a crazy person as he seems to be.

But then again there's always this fatalistic Trumpite fall-back always reserved for other people: People die.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-28 09:21 AM | Reply

We are screwed. But we will get through it.

#38 | Posted by gtbritishskull at

Not all of us.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2020-03-28 09:21 AM | Reply

Not all of us.

#40 | POSTED BY ZED

We will probably lose around 1 percent of the population. And, the least productive 1 percent (older and sicker). So yes, a lot of people will die, and because of conservatives a lot of people will die needlessly, but as a country and a society we will survive this. It is going to get BAD over the next couple of months, but we will get through the other side of it.

#41 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-03-28 09:46 AM | Reply

Though I generally agree with you and find you very much on target, your value determination of who's "productive" and their impact to us "getting through this" should be reconsidered.

We're at 1.6% death rate today.

It's not just taking the "least productive."
It's not just taking the sick, or people with underlying conditions.
Just because some people have underlying conditions, like asthma, doesn't mean they aren't productive.

You equating those that are at risk with productivity is uninformed and bigoted. It is ignorant.

We'll get through this because that's what we do, no matter the cost. Not because those you decided aren't productive and will die won't impact the economy or our recovery.

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-28 10:13 AM | Reply

We're at 1.6% death rate today.

That's the U.S. number. Worldwide it's 4.46%

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-28 10:36 AM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

15 cases. 100,000 cases.

Same same.

Soon to be zero!

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-28 12:05 PM | Reply

What's 2% of 150,000 JeffJ?

Is it glee?

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 12:06 PM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Throwing Trumpy's ignorant words back into his ignorant face as we watch Americans die from a preventable disease is not "glee"

Someone needs to get their glee detectors checked.

#46 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-28 12:09 PM | Reply

Donald J. Trump
""
@realDonaldTrump
The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA.

#47 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-03-28 02:02 PM | Reply

#48 | Posted by JeffJ

Gunga Dimwit is a useless troll.

Go lick a public toilet

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-28 02:19 PM | Reply

#48 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

^
There's the glee JeffJ was talking about.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#48 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You trolled and got the response you hoped for.

Patting yourself on the back for it is what it is.

By the way. When was the last time you posting something constructive to the conversation?

Seems your posts these days are either attempts at trolling or attempts at excusing Trump.

What a sad caricature of a Trumpublican you are.

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-28 02:28 PM | Reply

More glee from JeffJ!

Take a victory lap, you've earned it.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sad thing is.

Jeff seems to believe he's winning something.

Seems disdain is his delight.

Probably why he's such a dedicated Trumpublican.

He loves trolling liberals.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-28 02:37 PM | Reply

#52 | Posted by JeffJ

So, Gunga Dimwit, how does it feel for no one to respect you?

#55 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-28 02:38 PM | Reply

loser

#57 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-03-28 03:03 PM | Reply

loser

I can't remember the last post from Jeff that was actually worth the read.

Since he has nothing factual to defend Trump with, he's resorted to trolling.

Is what it is. Just another poster to ignore.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-28 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

JeffJ: Go back through messages 1 through 28 and show me where there's a "lot of glee."

There is no glee.

I'm not interested in hosting comments from people who think this is all a big laugh and a chance to troll people and self-congratulate yourself when you get a reaction.

#60 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-28 04:15 PM | Reply

JeffJ: Go back through messages 1 through 28 and show me where there's a "lot of glee."

There is no glee.

I'm not interested in hosting comments from people who think this is all a big laugh and a chance to troll people and self-congratulate yourself when you get a reaction.

#60 | POSTED BY RCADE

I would say the following posts come across as gleeful in a political sort of way:

#3 #5 #9 #16 #18 #20 #22

#61 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-28 04:21 PM | Reply

I would say the following posts come across as gleeful in a political sort of way:
#3 #5 #9 #16 #18 #20 #22

#61 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Show me the post where someone says they are happy that the numbers are so high.

Just because YOU would be gleeful in a reverse situation does not mean that WE are gleeful.

That is called "projection".

#62 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-03-28 04:28 PM | Reply

There's no glee in any of those comments. Nobody is expressing happiness that the U.S. has a deadly pandemic growing fast enough to overwhelm hospitals and cause a lot of deaths and suffering.

By contrast, your comment had nothing to offer on the subject of the link and you later expressed glee at a count of angry responses you received, which is a self admission of trolling.

#63 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-28 04:28 PM | Reply

They came across as gleeful to me. And what I mean by that is not that they are happy about the pandemic itself, but that they see the pandemic as damaging to Trump so that aspect of it makes them gleeful.

You obviously see it differently.

Regardless, I'll move on from it. My comment got way more traction than I ever thought it would and I think it's detracting from the thread as a result.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-03-28 04:32 PM | Reply

I think when a politician fails the discussion is inevitably going to be political.

But the emotional tone of most people here of any political persuasion is likely to more freaked out, worried and angry than anything else. And maybe mentally exhausted.

This is a terrible time in our history.

#65 | Posted by rcade at 2020-03-28 04:50 PM | Reply

Though I generally agree with you and find you very much on target, your value determination of who's "productive" and their impact to us "getting through this" should be reconsidered.

We're at 1.6% death rate today.

#42 | POSTED BY YAV

To start I said 1% of the population, not 1% of those infected. Hopefully we will have a little less than 80% of the population actually infected (that is approximately the percentage necessary for herd immunity), and the 20% that aren't infected will be mostly the ones at higher risk.

But even at 3% of our entire population dying, I think our country and society can survive.

"In Italy, 85.6 percent of those who have died were over 70, according to the National Institute of Health's (ISS) latest report."

www.aljazeera.com

People who are retired are less productive. People who are old and sick are more likely to be retired. Does this virus kill other people? Of course. Does it kill "productive" people? Yes again. But it is targeting the more "non-productive" portion of our population. That is not a value judgement, just a fact. I don't begrudge people retiring or not working when they are older. But them dying is a lot less harmful to our economy than someone in their prime working years.

#66 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-03-28 04:54 PM | Reply

You see us getting through this solely in economic terms.

I don't.

We'll recover, economically.

What we are afterwards is what concerns me.

#67 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-28 05:27 PM | Reply

They came across as gleeful to me. And what I mean by that is not that they are happy about the pandemic itself, but that they see the pandemic as damaging to Trump so that aspect of it makes them gleeful.

You obviously see it differently.

Regardless, I'll move on from it. My comment got way more traction than I ever thought it would and I think it's detracting from the thread as a result.

#64 | Posted by JeffJ

Identifying a silver lining is different from being gleeful.

Exposing trump's economy as a delicate house of cards based on stealing propserity from the future and stock buybacks is a silver lining.

So is exposing the danger presented by republican rejection of experts, facts, and science.

Getting people to realize it might be actually matter that that president is a moron is a silver lining.

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-03-28 06:51 PM | Reply

"Getting people to realize it might be actually matter that that president is a moron is a silver lining."

Except you can't do that here. Nobody can.

#69 | Posted by eberly at 2020-03-28 07:08 PM | Reply

What we are afterwards is what concerns me.

#67 | POSTED BY YAV

Old people die. That is the natural order of things. As a collective we can accept them dying a little earlier.

What is harder to accept is when children and young people die. Be thankful that this virus does not seem to adversely affect children. They are in a lot more danger right now of dying from the flu than from the coronavirus.

If we had young children dying at the same rate as the elderly (which is usually what happens), I would be a lot more concerned for our collective mental health.

I hope we learn from this. Learn to prepare. To not put conservatives in positions of power. But as a society and a country I think we will come out of this ok. Damaged but not broken.

#70 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-03-28 09:37 PM | Reply

Old people die. That is the natural order of things. As a collective we can accept them dying a little earlier.

OK Dr. Mengele.

#71 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-28 10:48 PM | Reply

If showing glee at someone contracting Covid 19 is repulsive to Jeff where was the condemnation at Trumps glee at Romney diagnosis?

Karma is going to have a field day with you': Trump pummeled for mocking Romney's COVID-19 test results

www.rawstory.com

#72 | Posted by Scotty at 2020-03-29 03:25 AM | Reply

@#29 ... A lot of glee on this thread. ...
A lot of projection in your comment.
#30 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

It's amazing how people think not sugar coating this is being "gleeful".

Sorry, turd polisher, accurately assessing reality to the detriment of your DOTUS isn't being "gleeful".

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 12:37 PM | Reply

I'm not interested in hosting comments from people who think this is all a big laugh and a chance to troll people and self-congratulate yourself when you get a reaction.

#60 | POSTED BY RCADE

It's the only response they have left.

At the very least it satiates their nasty "c-c-conservative Chreestian" side.

At best it creates a sense of victimhood that they can feed off of to continue their trolling and Trump support.

#74 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 12:59 PM | Reply

This is a terrible time in our history.

#65 | POSTED BY RCADE

Not for "c-c-conservatives".

Their failures will feed forward and support the contention that government is inept and poorly equipped to deal with a crisis.

The reason Jeff and other "c-c-conservatives" are projecting about glee is because this pandemic is giving them the biggest evidence yet for their self-fulfilling prophesies about how bad government is.

I predict that in a matter of a few years (2-4) the pandemic response will be used to justify their continued degradation of government function. It won't matter to them that it was their own twisted ideology and failed "leader" that was the cause of it.

#75 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 01:02 PM | Reply

"People who are retired are less productive."

I sense glee in their demise.

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-29 01:03 PM | Reply

Old people die. That is the natural order of things. As a collective we can accept them dying a little earlier.
OK Dr. Mengele.

#71 | POSTED BY YAV

That was unnecessary as his post is correct and is hardly saying that old people should die.

#77 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 01:05 PM | Reply

JPW, GTBritishSkull - my remark was a bit over the top. I apologize. i also will not back down from my position.

I don't accept older people dying a little earlier so that we can get the economy going sooner as a valid trade-off. I don't accept the premise that "old" people aren't contributors. Look around. People like Fauci who's 70, for instance.

The position that collectively we will/have determined such is logical subterfuge. A fallacy based on the attempt to use another logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum. It's positioning a value proposition put forward to rationlize getting the economy going.

My position is it doesn't matter who is going to die, as we will, as a group, find a way to move on. We always do.

Will older people die in greater numbers than younger? Likely so, though we're seeing a much larger proportion of younger people being hospitalized and dying here than Italy. We had the first infant mortality, too.

Does that reality mean we should collectively accept older people dying a little earlier as being OK? No. We shouldn't accept anyone dying earlier as a trade-off for jumpstarting the economy. We shouldn't feel better because of it. We should fight for everyone and once we give our best, and only then, then we come to terms with the reality and the numbers.

Dammit. I'm going to have to start a movement: "Old Lives Matter."

#78 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-29 01:35 PM | Reply

Excuse me - 79 yearns old, not 70. That was an actual typo.

#79 | Posted by YAV at 2020-03-29 01:36 PM | Reply

"I don't accept older people dying a little earlier so that we can get the economy going sooner as a valid trade-off."

More to the point:

The medical community which consumes 18% of GDP (probably more like 25% this year)
Does not accept older people dying, for any reason.

The thing you advocate, which is colloquially referred to as Death Panels, is simply not what this system was built to do.

People don't become doctors and nurses to let people die. They especially don't become doctors and nurses to let people die to try and keep Capitalism healthy. Shocking how their priorities are so out of whack, huh?

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-29 01:50 PM | Reply

$0 hours from the time this was first posted and the count is up to 138,000. For those of you not counting that is about 900 new cases per hour.

#81 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-29 04:33 PM | Reply

40 hours*

#82 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-29 04:34 PM | Reply

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