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Saturday, March 28, 2020

Some Wuhan residents who had tested positive earlier and then recovered from the disease are testing positive for the virus a second time. Based on data from several quarantine facilities in the city, which house patients for further observation after their discharge from hospitals, about 5%-10% of patients pronounced "recovered" have tested positive again.

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There have been early reports of reinfections for a while now. I wonder if those thought to be well actually never were and that the virus just stayed in their bodies in places undetectable by the tests available right now.

I remember stories questioning whether herd immunity is even going to be a viable thing due to a prevalence of reinfection. There is so much we've yet to discover about the pathology of this virus that any premature notions of having already tamped down its spread only guarantees more outbreaks and disruptions to come.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-27 09:57 PM | Reply

I remember stories questioning whether herd immunity is even going to be a viable thing due to a prevalence of reinfection.
#1 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

The biggest concern in regard to reinfection is that it could increase transmission rates to those who have not already been infected. We all get reinfections frequently but they are typically cleared out quickly. Noticeable symptoms, if any, are typically very mild. Those with weaker memory b-cell response may experience somewhat more illness upon reinfection than the rest of of us but typically nothing serious.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-03-27 10:29 PM | Reply

Tony, in this case they tested clear then tested positive.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-27 10:45 PM | Reply

Tony, in this case they tested clear then tested positive.

That's how I understood it. My issue is that after being "cleared" these "reinfected" might unknowingly transmit the virus to more uninfected people as Johnny mentioned too.

#4 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-03-27 11:00 PM | Reply

Yes. That's why I posted this article

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-03-27 11:12 PM | Reply

See how the regular people are wearing masks?

Why aren't we doing that here?

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 01:40 PM | Reply

If this report is true, it's REALLY BAD NEWS. Lets hope that the big brains can come up with a vaccine and a viable treatment.

Otherwise, we're all doomed.

#7 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-03-28 01:53 PM | Reply

"Otherwise, we're all doomed."

Stop being dramatic.

Even under a worse case scenario, 9/10 people would live.

Humanity is at greater risk due to overreaction than they are from COVID itself.

#8 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-28 02:06 PM | Reply

Humanity is at greater risk due to overreaction than they are from COVID itself.

#8 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Humanity is at greater risk due to Trumps reaction than they are from COVID itself.

Fixed by donnerboy

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-28 02:15 PM | Reply

"Humanity is at greater risk due to Trumps reaction than they are from COVID itself."

Stop dude.

You can get all partisan-y when it comes to the US, but Trump doesn't really play a role outside the US. He's our president. Not the world's president. Whether you like him or dislike him.

#10 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-28 02:17 PM | Reply

"Trump doesn't really play a role outside the US."

That's on Trump, then.
FDR built this system for America to rule the world.
You're a pawn on that chessboard.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-28 02:26 PM | Reply

"Trump doesn't really play a role outside the US."

I call bs.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-28 02:28 PM | Reply

Re #10

If America was to collapse because of mismanagement of this pandemic then many other countries will follow us to the ash heap of history.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-28 02:30 PM | Reply

FDR built this system for America to rule the world.

Putin and Trump have dismantled the system.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-28 02:30 PM | Reply

You can get all partisan-y when it comes to the US, but Trump doesn't really play a role outside the US. He's our president. Not the world's president. Whether you like him or dislike him.

#10 | Posted by madbomber

The US used to lead the world in crisis situations. Before your moron party elected the king of morons.

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-03-28 03:22 PM | Reply

There is so much we don't know.

#16 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-03-28 05:10 PM | Reply

"FDR built this system for America to rule the world."

Is that so?

Explain to me how FDR made the US president the ruler of everything. Because I'm pretty sure your heroes in Cuba and Venezuela would disagree.

#17 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-28 05:18 PM | Reply

"Before your moron party elected the king of morons."

My Moron party?

I voted for Gary Johnson.

And aren't you one of the morons who supports the other king of morons, Bernie Sanders?

#18 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-03-28 05:20 PM | Reply

It's a virus.

Last I heard. The body and modern medicine can't kill viruses.

We just live with them forever.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-28 05:40 PM | Reply

The body and modern medicine can't kill viruses.

We just live with them forever.

#19 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Why can't the human being and virus can coexist peacefully? Like the humans and the fish do! Oh wait. We slaughter them Fish and eat them. But at least we do it "peacefully". Right? You got to have a license. Or a permit. And that makes it peaceful. For us. Why should the virus show us any virus mercy in the great circle of Life? What would virus mercy even look like? I think we actually dodged a bulletin this time. Like a near miss of a earth killing asteroid helps get funding for dangers from outer space we need to watch out for dangers from inner space. I hope this pandemic helps us get ready for The Next Pandemic.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-28 06:24 PM | Reply

Well, yet another disturbing twist as our pandemonium is fanned further away from "close to zero"..

#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-03-28 09:05 PM | Reply

The virus could become endemic. It's been shone in one study to cause loss of testosterone and possible fertility problems even in people who are asymptomatic. See madbomber, a worldwide disease that could affect reproduction. One possible path to eventual human extinction.
We discussed this before.

#22 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-03-28 10:55 PM | Reply

Stop being dramatic.
Even under a worse case scenario, 9/10 people would live.
Humanity is at greater risk due to overreaction than they are from COVID itself.

#8 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Yes, this isn't going to reduce the Earth to the show Life After People.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 12:17 PM | Reply

Last I heard. The body and modern medicine can't kill viruses.
We just live with them forever.
#19 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

What is that even saying?

You don't "kill" viruses, they're not alive.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 12:19 PM | Reply

It's been shone in one study to cause loss of testosterone and possible fertility problems even in people who are asymptomatic.

That sounds...suspect. Link?

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 12:19 PM | Reply

You don't "kill" viruses, they're not alive.

#24 | POSTED BY JPW

That's grey. That would depend on your definition of life.

Define Life.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-29 12:22 PM | Reply

Virus are unique in that they hijack our reproductive and energy systems

They do not have their own systems.

So they steal ours to reproduce themselves.

If they cannot do they they become inactive. Dead. They cannot be reactivated once they "decay".

They call it "half life" when determining how long it can "exist" on a surface before decaying. That is how a virus "dies". It decays. And can no longer function as a virus.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-29 12:47 PM | Reply

That's grey. That would depend on your definition of life.
Define Life.

#26 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Life has a definition.

Please don't expect me to go down some pseudo-intellectual rabbit hole.

Also, I don't need a simplistic lay version of an explanation of what a virus is, complete with air quotes.

If you're referring to eradication there's only been one successful case-small pox. Even with effective vaccines against other viruses we've never been able to do it again.

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2020-03-29 01:12 PM | Reply

Humanity is at greater risk due to overreaction than they are from COVID itself.
#8 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Serious question:
How is our response to COVID-19 creating greater risk for humanity than the disease itself?

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-29 01:30 PM | Reply

What is that even saying?

It's a pretty straightforward statement.

Once human beings contract a virus, they're infected for life.

The common cold, measles, chicken pox, HPV, herpes, and the flu. Are all viruses that once contracted, remain with the host, indefinitely.

Therefore. Once COVID19 is contracted, we're always hosts. And just like the common cold. The virus gets stronger and weaker as our immune system and our bodies are placed under stress.

So. It makes sense that you can recover, yet still test positive.


You don't "kill" viruses, they're not alive.
#24 | POSTED BY JPW

Is this where we delve into philosophy and discuss what life actually is?

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-29 01:40 PM | Reply

Viruses aren't alive, but then neither are sperm and egg.

They are by-products of life.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-29 01:42 PM | Reply

How is our response to COVID-19 creating greater risk for humanity than the disease itself?
#29 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The response you're referring to is glee, and it creates greater risk for humanity by making the outcome political.

Isn't that the leading tip of your spear question?

#32 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-29 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I just saw an interview with Pelosi on CNN. besides stumbling and mumbling over every other word, her targeted message was "Tessing, testing, testing...we need the numbers." She didn't really say 'what for'; she just needs numbers. But we all know why - to hurl at Trump. Nancy needs political numbers, not patients requiring health care.

#33 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2020-03-29 01:54 PM | Reply

#32 I didn't sense much glee talking to me friends who work in hospitals yesterday.

You?

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-03-29 01:58 PM | Reply

Politics is already involved, or are some people pretending not to notice?:

Jesse Lehrich @JesseLehrich

MA received 17% of requested medical supplies from the Trump admin. ME: 5%. CO: 1 day's worth.

FL got everything they requested. + an identical shipment the next week. oh, and a 3rd is on the way.

Desperate for medical equipment, states encounter a beleaguered national stockpile

www.washingtonpost.com

I assure you there is no glee involved in recognizing these facts.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-03-29 02:03 PM | Reply

It appears to progress and regress in waves - Briton describes symptoms.

#36 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-03-29 08:40 PM | Reply

Anyone talking about glee, kiss my butt. There is no glee about the scariest event of our lives.

#37 | Posted by cbob at 2020-03-29 09:22 PM | Reply

Nahhh the scariest event of our lives will be the day someone marries me.

#38 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-03-29 09:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Serious question: I've had the impression that viruses can't be completely cured and there will always be some left in your body - is that wrong?

#39 | Posted by grumpy_too at 2020-03-30 09:01 AM | Reply

"I just saw an interview with Pelosi on CNN. besides stumbling and mumbling over every other word, her targeted message was "Tessing, testing, testing...we need the numbers." She didn't really say 'what for'; she just needs numbers. But we all know why - to hurl at Trump. Nancy needs political numbers, not patients requiring health care."

Home Run! There's so much bad faith, stupidity, and lies in your post, you have earned an all-expenses paid trip to "Ignore this Dumbass".

Come back when you can be a contributing member of the board.

#40 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-03-30 12:12 PM | Reply

Nahhh the scariest event of our lives will be the day someone marries me.

#38 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Hey. Didn't even know you were on the market!

Makes me want to polish up the old mushroom.

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-03-30 12:19 PM | Reply

I've had the impression that viruses can't be completely cured and there will always be some left in your body - is that wrong?
#39 | POSTED BY GRUMPY_TOO

There's a quote to help you always remember.

"What's the difference between herpes and love? Herpes is forever."

It's how the Europeans wiped out the native Americans with small pox.

We carry viruses with us forever.

#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-03-30 02:18 PM | Reply

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