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Thursday, April 02, 2020

The Trump administration has decided not to reopen enrollment in the Affordable Care Act's federal exchanges amid the rising coronavirus pandemic, a senior administration official said Tuesday evening.

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#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-01 10:24 PM | Reply

See if you can still get or change 2020 health coverage
Outside the yearly Open Enrollment Period, you can get or change coverage only if you qualify for a Special Enrollment Period or for Medicaid or CHIP.

Loosing employer sponsored coverage qualifies you for a special enrollment period. So taking away the hand waving; this decision means that people who chose not to get health insurance in Nov/Dec but want it now are screwed. That is sort of the way insurance has always worked it's a gamble and people gambled and lost it happens.

Of course if we had universal coverage that wouldn't matter.

#2 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-04-01 10:33 PM | Reply

Its much better to not permit the people to get insurance, get sick and skip on the bills. cause that is cost effective

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-01 10:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Mmmm, that's good Federalism!

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-01 10:36 PM | Reply

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Exactly. The headline and premise is a lie claiming folks who lose their job and the health insurance that comes with it have to wait and they don't.

But this has always been a function of our current system. Like it or not.

#5 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-01 10:38 PM | Reply

#3

Nope not better but the way it has been in my lifetime. Maybe Bernie is smart not to drop out to no national health care Joe. Seems like if Bernie had won in 2016 this wouldn't be a conversation right now.

#6 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-04-01 10:40 PM | Reply

-Seems like if Bernie had won in 2016 this wouldn't be a conversation right now.

Our current system? Nothing would be different.

What would have Bernie have changed?

#7 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-01 10:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Bernie 2020, Medicare for all.

#8 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-01 10:43 PM | Reply

#7

Well at the least he wouldn't have weakened ACA so more options better pricing and a penalty if you didn't get it which would have reduced the number of people who are currently screwed.

At best maybe a Medicare buy in which could have reduced the number of screwed even more.

#9 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-04-01 10:56 PM | Reply

What would have Bernie have changed?

#7 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2020-04-01 10:42 PM | FLAG: |

He would have ordered it open, so people could buy if they want.

This performative ignorance thing is really silly.

#10 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-04-02 12:51 AM | Reply

Trump wants to reserve healthcare for the rich. The poor dems won't vote for him, the poor base think he will make an exception for the rhite people.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-02 01:24 AM | Reply

This decision is belaying economic recovery by limiting a healthy workforce. A Russian asset could do no better.

#12 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-04-02 07:47 AM | Reply

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Bernie wouldn't have gotten that done. He may have wanted to....but no chance.

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Let me know when you start to understand the premise of the attached article. Obviously you don't at this point.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-02 10:46 AM | Reply

Eberly. It should be opened so everyone can buy if they like.

Your lack of imagination/knowledge is not relevant to the issue.

#14 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-04-02 11:43 AM | Reply

I haven't said it's a good decision to not allow them in.

I really just challenged the false assertions in the article

If the govt can work out something to back the carriers in the exchange in the event they get harmed by claims...then that's what we should do.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-02 11:51 AM | Reply

It's because he is by circumstance being required to replace it with something better. Medicare for all.

KMA Republicl0wns.

#16 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-04-02 12:02 PM | Reply

The need for a universal healthcare system grows more and more apparent every day.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-02 12:06 PM | Reply

Re #15

If the trump govt can work out some way to undermine the ACA...then that's what the trump govt will do.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-02 12:11 PM | Reply

Even though Trump hates Obama with a passion and does evil crap like this becuase I'm still glad Obama made fun of the orange freakshow at the Press Dinner a few years ago.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-02 12:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And hey, when you have a Pandemic, isn't it just brilliant to keep people from getting health insurance. What a great leader!

#20 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-02 12:12 PM | Reply

He's showin' us how its dun Danni

#21 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-04-02 12:23 PM | Reply

I find this a bit funny.

A friend of mine cuts hair. She makes decent money but hates Obama and thinks Hillary runs a pedo ring.

She absolutely REFUSED to get health insurance and paid the tax penalty when she had to.

Her and her boyfriend live together and just tested positive together last week.

While its likely both will recover, they are looking at medical bills worth 6-12 months of their pay already.

They also aren't working because of the shut down.

I have zero sympathy.

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-02 12:34 PM | Reply

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Does she now want health insurance?

This is who the argument is being made for to drop the narrow open enrollment period and allow to enroll now.

Not someone who had health insurance but is in the midst of losing it due to being laid off right now. They can enroll with no waiting.

Now....your friend who cuts hair.....how folks like that actually want health insurance?

"While its likely both will recover, they are looking at medical bills worth 6-12 months of their pay already."

Are/were they hospitalized? what's driving the cost?

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-02 12:38 PM | Reply

What would Bernie have done?
Hypothetical.

He needed Congress to pass free medical (not medicare) for all.

Now, if he got it, there still wouldn't be enough medical equipment to handle the victims of the virus.

Even the queen couldn't have done better.

Then, with limited supplies, the doctors would still have to choose who to help.

Trump and our Congress knew since January.
No borders weren't going to be closed and State borders werent going to be closed, etc.

The virus won first strike and awe.

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#25 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-04-02 01:03 PM | Reply

What would Bernie have done?
Hypothetical.

For one, give the DNC both a mandate and political cover to pass what he's been calling for and what an election of him as president would indicate people want.

or

Use Trump's executive overreach in the other direction. Unilaterally go beyond what even the ACA calls for, and invite people to sue him over it. Use years of litigation stall tactics to allow at least some of his changes to take effect and the populace to get used to it. Use this for political advantage and tell people Republicans suing over it are (literally) taking away their healthcare and that we need a legislative fix to retain the (new) status quo.

#26 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-02 01:15 PM | Reply

#13

He wouldn't have not weakened ACA so more people would have had insurance like Trump did?

Maybe he wouldn't have gotten a medicare buy in option maybe he would have but he would have been pushing for it and it would have depended on down ticket elections if he got it or not so no way to know.

He wouldn't have gotten universal coverage though that much is true.

What we can know for sure is without effort to weaken ACA more people would have had coverage so a Bernie election in 2016 would have meant more people with coverage for Covfefe-19. I'm not even sure how you can argue that point.

#27 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-04-02 02:23 PM | Reply

Seems like if Bernie had won in 2016 this wouldn't be a conversation right now.

#6 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-04-01 10:40 PM | Reply | Flag: Naive

Bernie would still have had to deal with a Republican House and Senate, or at least a Senate without a 60 vote total in favor of M4A. Also, there are too many moderate Dems in the house to get M4A through that body. The only thing that would have been different if Bernie was POTUS is that the DOJ would be defending Obamacare as opposed to attacking it in the courts, and Bernie would not have attacked the law with executive orders in order to weaken it.

#28 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-04-02 02:27 PM | Reply

www.nbcnews.com

A U.S. official in Washington confirmed the shipment was a direct result of Trump's phone conversation with Putin. The official said it carried 60 tons of ventilators, masks, respirators and other items.

#29 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-04-02 03:52 PM | Reply

Medical supplies from Russia... WHEN THE CLOWNS GO RED THEY GO ALL THE WAY.

#30 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-04-02 11:05 PM | Reply

Nope not better but the way it has been in my lifetime. Maybe Bernie is smart not to drop out to no national health care Joe. Seems like if Bernie had won in 2016 this wouldn't be a conversation right now.

#6 | Posted by TaoWarrior

Mitch McConnell would have fast tracked that for sure!

/snark off :-)

#31 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-04-03 02:17 AM | Reply

"Medical supplies from Russia... WHEN THE CLOWNS GO RED THEY GO ALL THE WAY.
#30 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE"

So your advice would be to send then back?

#32 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-04-03 05:48 AM | Reply

"Mitch McConnell would have fast tracked that for sure!
/snark off :-)"

You make a valid point, it's not just simple snark. The impossibility of getting anything good for Americans past the Senate has been zero since McConnell got a strangle hold on the Senate.

#33 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-03 06:05 PM | Reply

"the contract to maintain the government's stockpile lapsed late last summer, and a contracting dispute meant that a new firm did not begin its work until late January. "

Maybe Russia wouldnt need to be asked if contracts to support heath systems were not allowed to lapse in this country?

#34 | Posted by arthurmann at 2020-04-04 11:20 AM | Reply

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