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Saturday, April 04, 2020

In Robert Mueller's final report on the Russia investigation, a little-known translator named Anatoli Samochornov played a bit role, a witness sparsely quoted about the infamous Trump Tower meeting he attended in summer 2016 between Donald Trump Jr. and a mysterious Russian lawyer.

The most scintillating information Mueller's team ascribed to Samochornov in the report was a tidbit suggesting a hint of impropriety: The translator admitted he was offered $90,000 by the Russians to pay his legal bills, if he supported the story of Moscow attorney Natalia Veselnitskya. He declined.

But recently released FBI memos show that Samochornov, a translator trusted by the State Department and other federal agencies, provided agents far more information than was quoted by Mueller, nearly all of it exculpatory to the president's campaign and his eldest son.

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With much of the focus rightly on the global pandemic, it's easy to forget that this story is still ongoing and that the Durham investigation hasn't been interrupted by the epidemic.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 02:12 PM | Reply

Jr took the meeting with a Russian agent on the promise of dirt on Hillary. He admitted it and tweeted his emails to prove it. Before the meeting, the FBI told the Trumps that Russians would try to compromise them and to let them know immediately if contacted by Russians. Then the Trumps lied about the meeting. Guilty.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 02:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-04-04 02:29 PM | Reply

#2 None of that justifies hiding exculpatory evidence in the Mueller report.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 02:36 PM | Reply

LOL John Solomon's rag. The cognitive bias is strong with this one.

www.cnn.com

Trump Jr went to that meeting with intent to get info. He failed because he's an idiot goober.

Because they tried to rob a bank and left with nothing doesn't mean they're "innocent". Nor would such a criminal be left alone by law enforcement.

But even in light of this, what is the son of a POTUS candidate doing meeting with Russian representatives to discuss sanctions?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-04 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

LOL John Solomon's rag.

He got the FBI abuses right when most MSM outlets got it wrong.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 02:47 PM | Reply

#4 What crime did Samochornov's statement relate to? Meuller didn't say Jr. took dirt on Clinton, he was investigating why Jr. had secret meetings with Russians and lied about it to Congress. Mueller didn't include testimony that Jr. washed his hands before the meeting either.

This is lame gorilla dust in a desperate attempt to erase Jr.'s crimes.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

Trumps IG said the FBI investigation was justified, with no evidence of bias and yielded results. Totally exonerated.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 02:52 PM | Reply

#8 You need to understand what exculpatory evidence is and why it's disclosure is required.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 02:55 PM | Reply

Oh, and if you are going to cite Horowitz, using the word "exonerated" is a REALLY bad choice.

#10 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 exculpatory of what? That the meeting mostly involved discussions of US sanctions against Russia is not exculpatory of the crimes Jr. was investigated for.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03:01 PM | Reply

#10 Okay then, how about Totally legal and very cool.

#12 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03:01 PM | Reply

#11 It's in the embedded article.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:02 PM | Reply

Mueller never charged Don Jr. with a criminal offense, therefore there was nothing to exculpate him for.

Are you really this dense Jeff?

#14 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 03:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Jr. setup the meeting to get dirt on Hillary from Russians (Quid). The meeting discussed US sanctions (pro quo). Samochornov's testimony proves that and is in no way exculpatory.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03:03 PM | Reply

#14 Not dense, just a loyal cultist tossing gorilla dust to try and obscure the fact that the Trumps are a repeat offender crime family.

#16 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03:05 PM | Reply

The Trump's have been criminals for generations. Germany didn't send its best people.

#17 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#14 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

It's called full disclosure, Tony. His report was ultimately tailored for public consumption. Hiding exculpatory information is tantamount to slander.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Hiding exculpatory information is tantamount to slander.

Good lord man, you've gone around the bend. The translator was not the only person in the meeting. The Russian cutouts who set up the meeting said that sanctions were discussed. The emails set out the purpose of the meeting from the Russians side. No one accused Don Jr. of setting it up so that he could seek Russian help, it was just the opposite. The translator may not have even known about the contents of the email nor the underlying purpose the Russians wanted the dangle meeting at all.

Nothing being claimed by the translator is exculpatory for the evidence already known and corroborated by multiple others. This is a nothing burger on steroids with an HGH shake to wash it down.

#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nothing being claimed by the translator is exculpatory

FBI memos say otherwise.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#8 You need to understand what exculpatory evidence is and why it's disclosure is required.

#9 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

How is what's described here exculpatory? Solomon is saying it is, but that's it.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-04 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Last time Jeff, no one was claiming that taking the meeting was in any way a criminal offense by Don Jr. unless it could be proven that he was complicit with the Russians in agreeing to the scheme that they proposed. Don Jr. was not complicit and not one piece of evidence showed that he was in criminal violation of any law just for listening to what was a Russian intelligence dangle.

There is nothing for Don Jr. to be exculpated from at all, and Mueller never claimed that there was. The FBI stated that there was no intent on Don Jr.'s part to break the law, ergo, the translator's statements were moot.

No crime, no exculpation.

#22 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How is what's described here exculpatory?
#21 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2020-04-04 03:17 PM

The translator was present at the meeting:

"Samochornov could not speak about other occasions, but said there was no discussion about the 2016 United States presidential election or collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign at the meeting," the FBI reported.

"There was no smoking gun, according to Samochornov. There was not a discussion about dirt on Hillary Clinton. Samochornov did not think Hillary Clinton was mentioned by name at the meeting," the FBI report added. "Samochornov had not heard Veselnitskya say anything about having dirt' on Hillary Clinton. Veselnitskya did not offer any materials during the meeting and no papers were exchanged."


No crime, no exculpation.

#22 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Well, there are numerous lefties on this site alone who are 100% convinced that Jr committed the crime of the century with that meeting. In a report of that nature he had an obligation to disclose this.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:23 PM | Reply

#20 No they don't. When evidence of the Trump tower meeting with Russian's leaked, Trump and Jr. said it was about adoptions. No mention of Hillary dirt. But then Jr.s emails proved that the reason for the meeting was the promise of dirt on Hillary. Trump's team met with Russians and lied about the purpose of the meeting. Samochornov's testimony doesn't disprove any of that. Jr. tweeted email proof of the meeting purpose after he knew the truth was coming out.

There isn't enough lipstick in the world to make the Trump pigs look good.

#24 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

On its own this is a somewhat minor issue. The problem is it fits a much broader pattern of abuse.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There isn't enough lipstick in the world to make the Trump pigs look good.

#24 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-04 03

And yet some smear case after case of it.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-04 03:31 PM | Reply

The problem is it fits a much broader pattern of abuse.

Jeff, people have seen Donald Trump in action as President for 3 plus years now. No segment of LEO was abusing anything or anyone by investigating the obvious links between Trumpers and Russians when they publicly denied that they were even occurring. When you lie to federal investigators they are justified in investigating that you lied.

You seem to be implying that investigators following solid evidence should have ignored it just because Trump was running for President. Law doesn't work that way, and thank God that our federal law enforcement didn't either.

Trump breaks laws like others floss their teeth. The fact that you see it as nefarious that he's a continual target of investigation for what he does and says in violation of red letter law all in plain sight only shows you to be nothing more than a partisan apologist for a criminal.

#27 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#27

The IG has uncovered serial abuses by the FBI during Obama's presidency.

#28 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:39 PM | Reply

#27. In Volume I of the Mueller report please point to which laws Mueller found Team Trump to have violated. I'll wait..

#29 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 03:40 PM | Reply

Ha ha @ Jeffry for still thinking Solomon is a credible source!
Stupid Rube!

#30 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-04 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Well, there are numerous lefties on this site alone who are 100% convinced that Jr committed the crime of the century with that meeting. In a report of that nature he had an obligation to disclose this."

I'm just going to suggest you take a step back and ponder how statements like this look to a rational observer.

#31 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-04-04 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The IG has uncovered serial abuses by the FBI during Obama's presidency since FISA began

The IG report says that systemic abuses of the system go back to the point where the FISA laws were instituted, something I told you when the report first came out. They started during W's administration, continued during Obama's, and probably still go on during Trump's if the targets are foreign nationals, or Americans with links to the same.

You are kidding yourself if you believe anything else.

The FBI is not anti-Trump, the FBI is pro-national security (to the point of abusing personal rights) bending and breaking whatever they deem necessary to thwart threats they deem serious.

#32 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 03:47 PM | Reply

On its own this is a somewhat minor issue. The problem is it fits a much broader pattern of abuse.

#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

The back tracking begins.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-04 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

In Volume I of the Mueller report please point to which laws Mueller found Team Trump to have violated. I'll wait..

You don't have to wait. I wasn't speaking to any cherry-picked example, I was speaking to Trump's whole volume of criminality extending through his entire business career on through his presidency.

Volume 1 was crystal clear that by obstructing the investigation, by destroying evidence, and by refusing to sit for interviews, Trump and his conspirators made it impossible for the FBI to compile enough evidence with which to bring charges. That does not mean there was no criminal conduct by Trump and those in his orbit. The volume was full of examples.

#34 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 03:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I'm so old I remember when Jeffry at least pretended to be a neutral fence sitter.
Good times!

#35 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-04 04:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#32. My understanding is the IG only analyzed FISA applications going back a half dozen years or so

#36 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 04:16 PM | Reply

My understanding is the IG only analyzed FISA applications going back a half dozen years or so

I stand corrected. The investigation only goes back to 2014.

But if you think FISA surveillance warrant abuses just started in 2014 then you aren't paying attention. And Trump didn't announce his candidacy until October 2015, so there's that too.

Makes any claim that FBI bureaucrats working in the middle of a stovepipe were politically motivated solely to get Trump kinda dumb, imo.

#37 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 04:33 PM | Reply

But if you think FISA surveillance warrant abuses just started in 2014 then you aren't paying attention.

My guess is they started in February, 2009.

:-)

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 04:39 PM | Reply

Well, there are numerous lefties on this site alone who are 100% convinced that Jr committed the crime of the century with that meeting. In a report of that nature he had an obligation to disclose this.
#23 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Aaaahhhhhh, now we know JEFF's true intent.

Noted.

#39 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-04 06:24 PM | Reply

My guess is they started in February, 2009.
:-)
#38 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Better guess would fit TONY's suggested narrative that said abuses started when FISA started. You're not presenting any specific reason to believe otherwise, unless you believe us to be biased with an interest to protect Trump, as your above response does so trollingly.

IOW, lots of posts to convince JEFFJ that this is, indeed, a nothingburger with extra mayo.

#40 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-04 06:29 PM | Reply

#40 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Lighten up, Francis.

It was a joke. My intent was to draw a chuckle out of Tony.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-04 06:32 PM | Reply

My intent was to draw a chuckle out of Tony.
#41 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Glad to know you agree with my post.

But in all seriousness, your trolling conflated with the typical fence sitting really makes interpreting your posts' sincerity a challenge.

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-04 06:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is the person Jeff is trying to say that was wrongly investigated by the FBI:

President Donald Trump addressed his Friday night firing of the inspector general for the intelligence community Michael Atkinson, calling him a "disgrace to IGs."

"I thought he did a terrible job " absolutely terrible," Trump said at the Saturday coronavirus task for press briefing.

Atkinson alerted Congress to the whistleblower's complaint, touching off the inquiry that led to the President's impeachment.

Calling the complaint "fake," Trump expressed his outrage that he never met Atkinson in person.

"He never even came into see me," he said indignantly. "How can you do that without seeing the person?"

Trump quickly segued into bashing the whistleblower himself, whose identity he claimed that reporters in the press briefing room knew.

"Frankly, somebody ought to sue his ass off," Trump said.

talkingpointsmemo.com

This is a criminal who is abusing his power to wrongly fire a law enforcement officer who rightly performed his obligated duty under the Constitution of the United States.

There is not a person in DC claiming that the IG did anything wrong by following the statutory rules of his job in both forwarding a credible, corroborated whistleblower complaint up the chain and protecting the whistleblower from reprisal from the subject of the complaint.

If you agree that Trump's conduct in this matter is egregious, unconstitutional and borderline treasonous as it regards his constitutional duty then say something and stop trying to criminalize the very people who are doing their jobs correctly in service of America, not the sociopathic narcissist currently sullying the White House.

#43 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-04 06:44 PM | Reply

More John Solomon garbage in, more John Solomon garbage out.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-04 11:13 PM | Reply

"John Solomon, the former opinion writer at The Hill whose columns were seen as a central part of a smear campaign against former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, failed to identify "important details" about his sources " including that they were under investigation or indictment and were even his attorneys, according to a review of his work by his former colleagues."

www.politico.com

"... he has in recent years been accused of magnifying small scandals and creating fake controversy.[6][7][8] During Donald Trump's presidency, he has been known for advancing Trump-friendly stories. He played a role in advancing conspiracy theories about wrongdoing involving Joe Biden, his son Hunter, and Ukraine; Solomon's stories about the Bidens influenced Trump to request that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky launch an investigation into the elder Biden, which led to an impeachment inquiry.[2]"

Paul McCleary, writing for the Columbia Journalism Review in 2007, wrote that Solomon had earned a reputation for hyping stories without solid foundation.[7] In 2012, Mariah Blake, writing for the Columbia Journalism Review, wrote that Solomon "has a history of bending the truth to his storyline," and that he "was notorious for massaging facts to conjure phantom scandals."[8][22]

During the 2004 presidential election between George W. Bush and John Kerry, Thomas Lang wrote for the Columbia Journalism Review that a Solomon story for the Associated Press covered criticism of John Kerry's record on national security appeared to mirror a research report released by the Republican National Committee. Lang wrote that Solomon's story was "a clear demonstration of the influence opposition research is already having on coverage of the [presidential] campaign."[41][42]

en.wikipedia.org(political_commentator)

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-04 11:19 PM | Reply

"exculpatory evidence"

Was Don Jr. charged with a crime? So, why would "exculpatory evidence" even be an issue? We are now in the middle of the Coronavirus Pandemic, I guess I just don't care if poor little Donnie Jr. is thought to be a -------. He is a -------, he proved that when he and his brother had the photo taken of the latest endagered species those two -------s killed.
This thread serves only one purpose. To prove Jeff's loyalty to all things Trump. Does he do it for free or not? That is the only pertinent question.

#46 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-05 01:02 PM | Reply

"Does he do it for free or not?"

He's just doing it for kicks and giggles, apparently.

#47 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-04-05 02:42 PM | Reply

So, why would "exculpatory evidence" even be an issue?

#46 | POSTED BY DANNI

It wouldn't.

Down the middle, even steven, gonna vote blue jeffj knows this.

Soon the other rttarded cccksucker will post a hypothetical article about how Hunter Biden would have done the same things.

Teh libzzzzzzz will be ssssoooo pwnt.

I can't wait for that.

How about you?

#48 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-04-05 08:04 PM | Reply

On its own this is a somewhat minor issue. The problem is it fits a much broader pattern of abuse.

#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

That was awesome. Now do Trumpy and his "broader patterns of abuse".

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-06 11:44 AM | Reply

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