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Sunday, April 05, 2020

As the first alarms sounded in early January that an outbreak of a novel coronavirus in China might ignite a global pandemic, the Trump administration squandered nearly two months that could have been used to bolster the federal stockpile of critically needed medical supplies and equipment.



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HHS did not respond to questions about why federal officials waited to order medical supplies until stocks were running critically low. But President Donald Trump has asserted that the federal government should take a back seat to states when it comes to dealing with the pandemic.

Trump and his appointees have urged state and local governments, and hospitals, to buy their own masks and breathing machines, saying requests to the dwindling national stockpile should be a last resort.

"The notion of the federal stockpile was it's supposed to be our stockpile," Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law and adviser, said at a White House briefing Thursday. "It's not supposed to be state stockpiles that they then use."

Experts in emergency preparedness and response have expressed dismay at such statements, saying the federal government must take the lead in ensuring medical supplies are available and distributed where they are needed most.

"States do not have the purchasing power of the federal government. They do not have the ability to run a deficit like the federal government. They do not have the logistical power of the federal government," said Sebelius, who served as governor of Kansas before running the nation's health care system. ...

On Feb. 24, the White House sent Congress an initial $2.5 billion funding request to address the coronavirus outbreak. The next day, federal health experts at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned that the virus was spreading quickly in the U.S. and predicted that disruptions to daily life could be "severe," including school and business closures.

Unfazed, HHS Secretary Alex Azar told lawmakers on Feb. 27 that "the immediate risk to the American public remains low."

During those crucial early weeks when the U.S. could have been tracking the spread of the disease and containing it, hardly anyone was being tested after a series of federal blunders led to a shortage of tests and testing capacity, as AP reported last month.

Without data showing how widespread the disease was, federal and state governments failed to prepare. ...

The CDC advised health care workers last month to use homemade masks or bandanas if they run out of proper gear. Across the country, hospitals have issued urgent pleas for volunteers who know how to sew.

President Trump provided his own input, suggesting that Americans without access to factory-produced masks could cover their faces with scarves.

"A scarf is highly recommended by the professionals," Trump said during a White House briefing Wednesday. "And I think, in a certain way, depending on the fabric " I think, in a certain way, a scarf is better. It's actually better."

The rest of the article is incredibly damning and puts a damper on anyone's argument that the Trump administration executed their due diligence in a timely and appropriate manner. This is not a suggestion that any other POTUS would have not fumbled as well (whether Dem or Repub), but it's a clear indication that this specific administration did indeed fumble in their initial response to this crisis.

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 04:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think we're all under the false assumption that because things are chaotic, they're out of control.

Maybe it's time to consider, this is working out exactly the way the Trump Administration wants it to.

Chaos is opportunity.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-05 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Illinois governor fires back after Trump says states were unprepared: 'He doesn't understand the word federal'

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker (D) slammed President Trump early Sunday, saying after the president suggested states should have prepared their own stockpiles of equipment ahead of the coronavirus pandemic that Trump does not understand the word "federal."

"The president does not understand the word federal. Federal Emergency Management Agency. We have a state Emergency Management Agency, but if he were right, why would we ever need a Federal Emergency Management Agency?" Pritzker said on CNN's "State of the Union." "It's because individual states can't possibly do what the federal government can do."

#3 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Chaos is opportunity.

The perceived opportunity that reared its head in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 as it relates to Iraq and Saddam is an apt comparison.

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump claims coronavirus is under control -- contradicting reality and his own top expert
By Stephen Collinson | March 16, 2020

America's top infectious diseases expert is warning that hundreds of thousands of Americans could die unless every citizen joins an effort to blunt the coronavirus pandemic -- only to be contradicted by President Donald Trump, who insists the virus is under "tremendous" control.

Weeks later...

Fauci: It's A False Statement' To Say COVID-19 Outbreak Is Under Control
By Summer Concepcion | April 5, 2020

...After agreeing with CBS' Margaret Brennan that mitigation is working, Fauci denied that the coronavirus outbreak is under control.

"I will not say we have it under control, Margaret," Fauci said. "That would be a false statement. We are struggling to get it under control, and that's the issue that's at hand right now."

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 04:47 PM | Reply

Chaos in an excellent opportunity for the Trump administration to do a lot of nefarious things and have them not make even a blip on the national news cycle's--and hence most people's--radar.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-05 04:48 PM | Reply

US didn't waste anything.
Fifty Governors wasted their chance!

"I take no responsibility"
-- President Donald J. TRUMP

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-05 04:49 PM | Reply

why would we ever need a Federal Emergency Management Agency

Confederate Republicans have been wanting to dismantle the federal government since the end of the civil war.

The Trump Administration has carried that goal out further than any prior administration. Mostly thanks to McConnell.

People like Boaz are elated. They hate America.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-05 04:49 PM | Reply

Orange County, FL testing site hits capacity 7 minutes after opening Friday

The testing site can only conduct 250 tests a day because they get their tests from the federal government and said they have limits.

"That federally mandated number is what we must follow. So, while we have 2,400 tests, we're only able to perform 250 a day. You may be thinking. oh, well the Miami site and the Jacksonville site have more tests that they're able to do,' and we understand that, however the reason they're able to do that is that they have either a hospital partner, or they have tests that came in from the state of Florida. While that's an option to happen here as well, it hasn't happened yet," Lauren Luna, spokesperson for the testing site said.

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 04:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing."

Trump is your good man, Deplorables.
He did nothing.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-05 04:57 PM | Reply

Trump reportedly dismissed January coronavirus warnings from Health Secretary Alex Azar as 'alarmist'

President Donald Trump dismissed as "alarmist" warnings back in January from Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar about the threat posed by the novel coronavirus, reported The Washington Post Saturday.

In an investigation into the series of wasted opportunities in government agencies and the Trump administration to mitigate the impact of the outbreak, the Post reported that Azar called Trump back on January 18 while the president was staying at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida to brief him about the disease.

According to the report, the president cut Azar off before he could begin to renew criticism of him over a botched federal vaping ban.

At the time, the virus was rapidly spreading in China but Trump's attention was fixed on the ongoing impeachment trial being conducted in the US Senate.

So McConnell was right: Trump was distracted by the impeachment. Damn those Democrats trying to hold Trump accountable for his inappropriate, potentially criminal behavior while holding the most powerful office on the planet. Those despicable Dems should have predicted a global pandemic was on the horizon and our Dear Leader should not have been distracted (by not participating in the impeachment in anyway whatsoever).

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump Admin Axed Massive Mask Manufacturing Plan in 2018

In September 2018, the Trump administration received detailed plans for a new machine designed to churn out millions of protective respirator masks at high speed during a pandemic. The plans, submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) by medical manufacturer O&M Halyard, were the culmination of a venture unveiled almost three years earlier by the Obama administration. But HHS did not proceed with making the machine.

More deserved blame placed at the feet of B. Hussein.

Oh, wait...

#12 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On Feb 5, HHS Secretary Azar requested $2 billion to buy respirator masks & other supplies for the national stockpile

Trump cut that request by 75%

Now a mask shortage is forcing healthcare workers to use bandannas and scarves.

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This explains why Governors say: I'm not getting the supplies I need - yet
says we are sending tons of supplies: It's going from the federal govt to commercial distributors who then deliver to the highest bidder: states!


#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:11 PM | Reply

The $2 billion request from HHS was cut to $500 million when the White House eventually sent Congress a supplemental budget request weeks later.

White House budget officials now say the relief package enacted Friday secured $16 billion for the Strategic National Stockpile, more money than HHS had asked for.

Waaaaaaay behind the curve. Not only unprepared, unwilling to acknowledge the threat for what it truly is. Willful ignorance on part of the POTUS.

What an incredibly said point in history and we have a front row seat.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

1/3 Trump learns about coronavirus outbreak in China from intelligence officials.

1/3 Trump holds Miami, FL rally.

1/4 Trump plays golf.

1/5 Trump plays golf.

1/ 8 CDC issues warning about coronavirus.

1/9 Trump holds rally in Toledo, OH.

1/14 Trump holds Milwaukee, WI rally.

1/18 Trump plays golf.

1/19 Trump plays golf.

1/20 1st US case confirmed.

1/22 Trump "...we have it totally under control. It is going to be just fine".

1/23 Hubei, China goes on lock down

1/24 Global cases over 1,000

1/27 Trump holds Wildwood, NJ rally

1/27 Global deaths over 100

1/30 Trump holds Des Moines, IA rally.

1/31 Global cases over 10,000

1/31 Trump enacts China travel ban.

2/1 Trump plays golf.

2/2 Trump "We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."

2/2 Trump plays golf.

2/5 End of impeachment

2/10 Trump holds Manchester, NH rally.

2/10 Global deaths over 1,000

2/13 Senators Richard Burr (R., N.C.) and Kelly Loeffler (R., Ga.) sold off millions of dollars in public stock following a closed-door briefing on the coronavirus

2/15 Trump plays golf.

2/19 Trump holds Phoenix, AZ rally.

2/20 Trump holds Colorado Springs, CO rally.

2/21 The first Italian cities go on lock down

2/21 Trump hold Las Vegas, NV rally.

2/25 Trump "...we are down to 15 cases, will be zero soon."

2/27 Trump "One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear."

2/28 Trump holds Charleston, SC rally and says worries about the virus is the new "hoax".

2/29 1st American dies from coronavirus.

3/2 Trump holds Charlotte, NC rally.

3/6 Global cases over 100,000

3/6 Trump "Anybody that needs a test, gets a test. We"they're there. They have the tests. And the tests are beautiful."

3/7 Trump plays golf.

3/7 Trump says "No I'm not concerned at all. We've done a great job".

3/8 Trump plays golf.

3/9 The whole country of Italy goes on lock down

3/11 CDC WHO declares SARS-CoV-2 a pandemic

3/13 Trump declares a national emergency.

3/13 Trump "No, I don't take responsibility at all".

3/17 Trump "I've always known this is a real"this is a pandemic. I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic ... I've always viewed it as very serious."

3/19 Trump enacts travel ban on European countries.

3/27 Trump signs Covid-19 relief Bill

3/28 U.S. deaths surpass 1000

4/1 U.S deaths surpass 5000.

4/3 Trump fires intelligence community inspector general who flagged Ukraine whistle blower complaint that lead to his impeachment.

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Jan. 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine." " Trump in a CNBC interview.

Jan. 30: "We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment " five " and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we're working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it's going to have a very good ending for us ... that I can assure you." " Trump in a speech in Michigan.

Feb. 10: "Now, the virus that we're talking about having to do " you know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat " as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April. We're in great shape though. We have 12 cases " 11 cases, and many of them are in good shape now." " Trump at the White House. (See our item "Will the New Coronavirus Go Away' in April?")

Feb. 14: "There's a theory that, in April, when it gets warm " historically, that has been able to kill the virus. So we don't know yet; we're not sure yet. But that's around the corner." " Trump in speaking to National Border Patrol Council members.

Feb. 23: "We have it very much under control in this country." " Trump in speaking to reporters.

Feb. 24: "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" " Trump in a tweet.

Feb. 26: "So we're at the low level. As they get better, we take them off the list, so that we're going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we've had very good luck." " Trump at a White House briefing.

Feb. 26: "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done." " Trump at a press conference. ...

#17 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Feb. 27: "It's going to disappear. One day " it's like a miracle " it will disappear." " Trump at a White House meeting with African American leaders.

Feb. 29: "And I've gotten to know these professionals. They're incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they're very, very cool. They've done it, and they've done it well. Everything is really under control." " Trump in a speech at the CPAC conference outside Washington, D.C.

March 4: "[W]e have a very small number of people in this country [infected]. We have a big country. The biggest impact we had was when we took the 40-plus people [from a cruise ship]. ... We brought them back. We immediately quarantined them. But you add that to the numbers. But if you don't add that to the numbers, we're talking about very small numbers in the United States." " Trump at a White House meeting with airline CEOs.

March 4: "Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number." " Trump in an interview on Fox News, referring to the percentage of diagnosed COVID-19 patients worldwide who had died, as reported by the World Health Organization. (See our item "Trump and the Coronavirus Death Rate.")

March 7: "No, I'm not concerned at all. No, we've done a great job with it." " Trump, when asked by reporters if he was concerned about the arrival of the coronavirus in the Washington, D.C., area.

March 9: "So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!" " Trump in a tweet.

March 10: "And we're prepared, and we're doing a great job with it. And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away." " Trump after meeting with Republican senators.

A day later, on March 11, the WHO declared the global outbreak a pandemic.

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snopes: Did Trump Golf, Hold Rallies After Learning About COVID-19 Threat?

After Sen. Mitch McConnell suggested the government's response to the initial coronavirus outbreak was in part distracted by the president's impeachment, rebuttal memes started flying.

U.S. President Donald Trump golfed several times and held a number of rallies after learning about the threat of the coronavirus.
Rating: True

U.S. President Donald Trump and the federal government have been widely criticized for what detractors described as their slow response to the COVID-19 coronavirus disease pandemic. As of this writing, the U.S. is still facing shortages of critical medical supplies such as masks and personal protective equipment (PPE). On March 31, 2020, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell argued that the government might have been too distracted by impeachment proceedings to focus on the impending pandemic.

McConnell told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt that the outbreak "came up while we were tied down on the impeachment trial. And I think it diverted the attention of the government, because everything every day was all about impeachment."

Shortly after McConnell made these remarks, a number of op-eds were published refuting this claim. Trump even responded, saying, "I don't think I would have done any better had I not been impeached." ...

To sum up: The above-displayed tweet accurately lists the dates when Trump either golfed or held a political rally in the days after the CDC issued its first alert about the coronavirus. While some of these events took place as the impeachment process was underway (between Dec. 19, 2019 and Feb. 5, 2020), many of these rallies and golf outings took place after the trial was over.

What this says about Trump's state of mind during the early days of the pandemic, however, is unclear. Here's how Trump responded when he was asked if his impeachment had distracted him from responding to the COVID-19 pandemic.

"Trump says he would have handled COVID-19 the same even without impeachment: 'I don't think I would have done any better had I not been impeached.'"

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Senator says White House turned down emergency coronavirus funding in early February

Sen. Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat, says that Trump administration officials declined an offer of early congressional funding assistance that he and other senators made on Feb. 5 during a meeting to discuss the coronavirus.

The officials, including Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, said they "didn't need emergency funding, that they would be able to handle it within existing appropriations," Murphy recalled in an interview with Yahoo News' "Skullduggery" podcast.

"What an awful, horrible catastrophic mistake that was," Murphy said.

On Feb. 5, Murphy tweeted: "Just left the Administration briefing on Coronavirus. Bottom line: they aren't taking this seriously enough. Notably, no request for ANY emergency funding, which is a big mistake. Local health systems need supplies, training, screening staff etc. And they need it now."

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:32 PM | Reply

Trump / Mulvaney accuse Democrats of exaggerating coronavirus threat on same day WHO upgrades risk of global outbreak to "very high"

Trump Accuses Media and Democrats of Exaggerating Coronavirus Threat

By Peter Baker and Annie Karni |Feb. 28, 2020

At a campaign rally on Friday evening in South Carolina, the president denounced Democrats, describing the concerns they have expressed about the virus as "their new hoax" after the Russia investigation and then impeachment. "Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," he said. "We did one of the great jobs. You say, How's President Trump doing?' They go, Oh, not good, not good.' They have no clue. They don't have any clue. They cannot even count the votes in Iowa."

The accusations came as other elements of the federal government moved to head off a broader wave of infections like those in China. The State Department urged Americans to reconsider traveling to Italy, where the virus has spread, and health officials reported three more cases of unknown origin, in California, Oregon and Washington State, raising fears of local transmission. The World Health Organization reported cases in 56 countries and warned of a "very high" global risk, while stock markets closed their worst week since the 2008 financial crisis.

#21 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 05:37 PM | Reply

The US expected average daily mortality rate is ~8,000 deaths per day. This is a "normal" amount of dead Americans. (population * per capita / 365)

COVID 19 was responsible for 1,331 deaths in the US yesterday, almost triple the daily peak of 508 deaths from the flu.

Therefore, COVID 19 is increasing the "normal" daily mortality rate of Americans above the expected by ~17%.

On 04/01/20 COVID 19 was the 3rd highest daily cause of death in the US after heart disease and cancer.

The US contains only 4.25% of the world population but approximately 27% of worldwide confirmed cases of COVID 19 are within the US.

The projected 2,640 single day deaths at the peak of the curve on April 15th is projected to be ~33% above "normal" due to COVID 19.

NYC's expected average daily mortality rate is 147. This is a "normal" amount of dead NYC residents. (population * per capita / 365). Yesterday 757 NYC residents died of COVID 19, a ~51.5% increase over "normal", for a total of over 6 times a "normal" amount of dead residents.

At the current rate of fatalities, even if the growth curve stops flat today, COVID 19 would officially become the most deadly pandemic in a century by May 23rd.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 06:01 PM | Reply

You're in San Diego.
I'm in San Diego.
Let's not meet up someplace, okay?

Californians, leading by example.
It's what we do.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-05 06:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Californians, leading by example.
It's what we do.

Stay the ---- inside, SNOOF.

I'll drink to that.

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 06:21 PM | Reply

Per the model our govt response is based on, at the end of June after 100k - 240k fatalities, 97% of the population will still be susceptible. In other words, in June we will be in the exact same place as we were in the beginning of march with no end in site and no plan.

#25 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 06:25 PM | Reply

no end in site and no plan.

The answer to both is the same.

100% infected populous.

Herd immunity.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-05 06:57 PM | Reply

Kushner's Idiot [Questions] Stole Valuable Time From Covid Experts

A parallel COVID-19 strategy run by White House senior adviser Jared Kushner has sucked valuable time from health experts scrambling to respond to the surging pandemic and save lives, sources have told The Washington Post.

Comments and requests from President Donald Trump's son-in-law that task force members felt compelled to respond to " no matter how "ill-conceived" " set them even further back on an already-delayed path, according to the Post.

The Kushner complication has been just one of a series of stumbles that hampered the U.S. response to COVID-19, costing the country its most valuable weapon in a fight against any pandemic: time, according to a scathing chronology of the battle by the Post. Though the U.S. has the wealth and knowledge to conquer a disease, it has been plagued by the president's time-costing denial of the threat, a subsequent sluggish response, and a lack of efficient management, the newspaper reported.

As Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar worked to head off the surging cases of the new coronavirus, Trump tended to turn for advice to others with "no credentials, experience or discernible insight in navigating a pandemic," the Post reported. One of those was Kushner, a former real estate developer with no previous government or medical experience, who ran a parallel COVID-19 team from a floor of the HHS, and cooked up a series of half-formed ideas, according to the Post.

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 07:01 PM | Reply

We're totally f**ked if your projections are correct.We could potentially be looking at 30 million deaths before herd immunity is acheived. A truly Black Death like figure. I hope they get a vaccine before THAT happens!! God help us all.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-05 07:21 PM | Reply

The answer to both is the same.
100% infected populous.
Herd immunity.

It's more like 40-60% infected, at which point the dynamics bring R0 down below one, but yeah.
Which is why, I keep reiterating, for the people who refuse to process what the Trump Administration is telling us:

US Government COVID-19 Response Plan
2. A pandemic will last 18 months or longer and could include multiple waves of illness.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-05 07:28 PM | Reply

How "World-Renowned Idiot" Donald Trump Has Changed His Coronavirus Story

On Tuesday, the Trump administration finally released official death toll estimates for the coronavirus outbreak in the United States, saying the number could reach 100,000 to 240,000 before it's over. At a press conference that day, Trump said he previously downplayed the impact of the coronavirus to provide Americans some hope. (Trump infamously said he wanted the country to re-open economically by Easter; he has since extended the Centers for Disease Control social distancing guidelines through the end of April.) "I've had many friends, businesspeople, people with great actually common sense"they said, Why don't we ride it out?'" Trump said on Tuesday. "A lot of people have said, a lot of people have thought about it, ride it out, don't do anything, just ride it out and think of it as the flu. But it's not the flu. It's vicious."

"You're the one who said it was like the flu! Those friends of yours were you," an exasperated Meyers said in response to Trump's recent remarks. The host also noted how pervasive flu comparisons were at the early stage of the virus' spread.

"The lie that the coronavirus is just like the flu did obvious damage. Do you know how many people heard that and then repeated it?" Meyers said. "Even if you hated Donald Trump and knew not to trust a word he said, everyone had that one friend or relative on the text chain who said, 'Y'know, it's not going to be so bad! It's gonna be like the flu."

It also ties into Trump's conspiracy that the media and Democrats were feeding into hysteria, overly concerned about the virus' potential risk, solely to harm Trump's elect-ability. Even it's not true that Trump called the virus a hoax in general, his supporters took on the sentiment that anyone highlighting the true risk of the virus outbreak was an alarmist Chicken Little, furthering the conspiracy that Democrats and MSM are at the center of Trump looking bad.

Trump appointing, first, Pence and then subsequently Kushner should be viewed as Exhibit A and B to Trump's responsibility of this bungled operation. Viewing otherwise is simply illogical, IMO.

#30 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 07:29 PM | Reply

".We could potentially be looking at 30 million deaths before herd immunity is acheived. "

You mean globally?
1-2 million deaths is the Imperial College Report projection for America.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-05 07:37 PM | Reply

And he's back on the acquarium cleaner gag:

"One of the reasons why I keep talking about [this chemical] ... is that, what do you have to lose? And I'll say it again. What do you have to lose?

Take it.

I really think they should take it.

But it's their choice. And their doctor's choice. Or the doctors in the hospital.

But [this chemical.] Try it."

--Donald J. Trump

"April 4, 2020 | Members of the Coronavirus Task Force Hold a Press Briefing" - 3:30 PM

Just wish he'd be more clear about the distinction, you know what I mean JEFFJ?

#32 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 07:37 PM | Reply

Trump keeps pushing [this chemical] as a treatment against coronavirus when one of his own leaders of the Coronavirus Task Force publicly acknowledges a complete lack of evidence showing [this chemical's] efficacy against the Coronavirus.

#33 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 07:44 PM | Reply

The Washington Post reported "on January 24th the Senate Health Committee holds a private, all-senators briefing featuring Centers for Disease Control Director Robert Redfield and infectious disease expert Anthony S. Fauci. Then on February 7th Senator Burr (R-NC) in a Fox News op-ed with Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) says Americans are "rightfully concerned" about coronavirus but that, "Thankfully, the United States today is better prepared than ever before to face emerging public health threats, like the coronavirus, in large part due to the work of the Senate Health Committee, Congress, and the Trump Administration." Clearly all lies and neither they nor Trump acted in any urgent way.

Mid to late January:

Previously unreported lawmakers who sold assets in the weeks leading up to the market crash include Rep. Susan Davis (D-Calif.), who unloaded thousands of dollars of stock in Alaska Air and Royal Caribbean cruises. A senior aide to Sen. Mitch McConnell made a mid-January purchase of Moderna, Inc., a biotechnology company that had four days earlier announced it would begin developing a coronavirus vaccine. And an aide to Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, who serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, sold off stock in companies including Delta Airlines in late January and later bought stock in Clorox, Inc., which makes bleach and sanitary wipes.

The trades show that -- as much of the public was blindsided by both the pandemic and the economic meltdown over the last two weeks -- a number of lawmakers, aides and their brokers helping manage their portfolios adjusted their investments. Lawmakers in both chambers were being briefed via both classified and non-classified meetings about the coronavirus in late January and February, giving people on Capitol Hill a closer look at how the coming pandemic might shape their lives and finances that much of the country was lacking.

Some people in power were NOT taking Trump at his word in mid to late January.

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 07:57 PM | Reply

Report: Pentagon Knew Of Possible Coronavirus Threat For Years

And while President Trump has said the current COVID-19 pandemic "came out of nowhere," Klippenstein says it is "inconceivable that the White House did not receive this," referring to the 2017 Pentagon report.


#35 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-05 08:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#33 Trump wants the NFL to play in the fall, when his own government playbook assumes the pandemic will last 18 months.

I don't know why people have such a hard time accepting Trump is the mad captain of a rudderless ship.

Perhaps Obama set the bar so high, they can't grasp how far we've fallen, and how fast?
I'll accept Eberly's answer.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-05 08:13 PM | Reply


You must be a little late to the fact party. Trump's transition team was put through a game planning briefing a week before the inauguration that put forth a scenario of a novel coronavirus breaking out in Asia and then blossoming into a global pandemic. The were given outlines on how the federal government's response needed to be coordinated and run, along with projections on timelines and likely transmission vectors.

One of the chief problems now is that most, if not all of those briefed during the transition are no longer a part of Trump's current government.

Which points to yet another product of his destructive maladministration of government.

#37 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-05 08:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Tonight, Trump said that he can see the light at the end of the tunnel. At this moment, there are 337,000 coronavirus cases in the US and 9633 confirmed deaths.

Let's check back in two weeks and see how prescient our President was.

#38 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-05 08:49 PM | Reply

C'mon everybody. Stifle! Jeff is so tired of us all criticizing Trump and never giving him credit that Mike Pence says he deserves.

#39 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2020-04-06 10:40 AM | Reply


Well you certainly laid it out plain enough in this thread even if you missed a few things... There are just so many genuine eff ups but Trump and Co. HUGH EFF UPS...

"Who'd o' thunk" - der Drumph and the GOP leadership...

#40 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-06 11:00 AM | Reply

#39 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour

I think rstybeach11 gave him PLENTY of credit for his response.

#41 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-06 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You're in San Diego.
I'm in San Diego.
Let's not meet up someplace, okay?

Californians, leading by example.
It's what we do.


I am on the Lost Coast (Northern California) . I will gladly NOT meet up with both of you!

Who's zooming who?

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-06 12:51 PM | Reply

Who's zooming who?

Not a bad idea, D-Boy.

The First Annual Drudge Retort anti-COVID Zoom Conference.

Should we setup a google doc to help establish a date and time?

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-06 01:58 PM | Reply

Maybe it's time to consider, this is working out exactly the way the Trump Administration wants it to.
Chaos is opportunity.

As long as they can BS enough of the electorate into reelecting them absolutely.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 12:39 AM | Reply

Maybe it's time to consider, this is working out exactly the way the Trump Administration wants it to.
Chaos is opportunity.
As long as they can BS enough of the electorate into reelecting them absolutely.

Why do that?

It's easier to just stop people from voting.

#45 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-07 02:34 PM | Reply

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