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Monday, April 06, 2020

Lloyd Green: On Sunday, initially at least, there was no White House briefing on the president's public schedule. But the bad news kept coming. Coronavirus deaths continued to climb and reports of the heartland being unprepared for what may be on its horizon continued to ricochet around the media. In the words of one administration insider, to the Guardian: "The Trump organism is simply collapsing. He's killing his own supporters."

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Herbert Hoover faced a depression, not a plague. Trump may contend with both.

Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 09:29 AM | 0 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

Donald Trump will "contend" with neither.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-06 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We will need a united left to defeat him.

There is no other option.

#2 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-04-06 10:12 AM | Reply

Bernie 2020.

#3 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-06 10:36 AM | Reply

#3
If he wins the nomination, absolutely.

If not, whoever wins the nomination absolutely.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2020-04-06 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If not, whoever wins the nomination absolutely.

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2020

Anything to escape this Dance of the Red Death.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-06 10:46 AM | Reply

"Trump Is Killing His Own Supporters"

They don't mind.

#6 | Posted by qcp at 2020-04-06 11:49 AM | Reply

I have no sympathy for them.

They wanted to break the government. They succeeded.

Unfortunately they are taking a lot of good people with them.

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-06 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

- They wanted to break the government. They succeeded.

Yeah, this.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-06 12:08 PM | Reply

"They wanted to break the government. They succeeded."

Unfortunately they broke it right when we really needed it.

History will not be kind to Deplorables. I know I am certainly already not feeling very generous towards deplorables these days.

#9 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-06 12:20 PM | Reply

History will not be kind to Deplorables. I know I am certainly already not feeling very generous towards deplorables these days.

#9 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

But they will be kind to themselves as always.

It's never their fault. It's always an excuse or someone else's fault.

Fox News will make sure of it.

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-06 12:41 PM | Reply

"It's never their fault. It's always an excuse or someone else's fault."

Who actually takes the blame for anything?

#11 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 12:43 PM | Reply

So far, Blue States have lost
far more people than Red States.
Mostly on account of Urban vs. Rural,
for sure, but that may begin to change,
if New Orleans and Florida and Texas
blow up like they are starting to
indicate. Democrats just need to survive
about 2 more 4 yr election cycles, and
Mother Nature will begin to take care of
the rest via demographics. The problem
remains, what it has been for the last 30+ yrs
for the Left, a combination of the lie of the
Electoral College and how easy it is to cheat
that, and the unfailing ability of the Left
to 'Shoot themselves in the foot', (eg. the
Bernie or Bust Idiots)...

#12 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-04-06 12:46 PM | Reply

And they love him for it.

#13 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2020-04-06 12:47 PM | Reply

#11

Harry Truman, for one.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-06 12:48 PM | Reply

14

I checked....and yeah, he's dead.

Anybody from the living?

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 12:51 PM | Reply

Who actually takes the blame for anything?

#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Captain Crozier

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-06 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I could infect every Trump voter in America with this ------- virus, and they would still vote for me, after blaming Obama and burying family members. I love the poorly educated...
--our poorly educated and willfully uninformed president

#17 | Posted by catdog at 2020-04-06 01:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who actually takes the blame for anything?

#11 | Posted by eberly

All you can do is pretend everyone is as bad as trump. Anyone with a brain or access to google laughs at you.

www.washingtonpost.com

Five bad things that Obama has said he's responsible for

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-04-06 01:19 PM | Reply

-All you can do is pretend everyone is as bad as trump.

I wasn't comparing Trump to Obama. I was comparing your average "deplorable" to someone who thinks they aren't a deplorable.

IOW, someone like you. While I can certainly tell the difference between Trump and Obama...I can't tell the difference between you and a "deplorable".


#19 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 01:30 PM | Reply

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It's a Washington times link, can't open.

Regardless, can you name anything on the list you blame Obama for? I'm sure Obama can admit to his mistakes...can you you recognize his mistakes? or does that list count for you too?

#20 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 01:37 PM | Reply

Who actually takes the blame for anything?
#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2020-04-06 12:43 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

Liberals.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-04-06 01:47 PM | Reply

Regardless, can you name anything on the list you blame Obama for? I'm sure Obama can admit to his mistakes...can you you recognize his mistakes? or does that list count for you too?

#20 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2020-04-06 01:37 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

More performative stupidity.

You're telling the big lie in the hopes of recruiting some Trumpers. The stupidest will join with you.

#22 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-04-06 01:49 PM | Reply

Who actually takes the blame for anything?
#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2020-04-06 12:43 PM | REPLY Short Memory

The answer to your question is President Barack Obama. Good example was the failure of the Obamacare website. President Obama wasn't designing it, as far as I can tell he wasn't a coder, but instead of being Drumpf and blaming the tech nerds, Obama took responsibility and promised to get it fixed, which he did.

#23 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-04-06 01:50 PM | Reply

I wasn't comparing Trump to Obama. I was comparing your average "deplorable" to someone who thinks they aren't a deplorable.

IOW, someone like you. While I can certainly tell the difference between Trump and Obama...I can't tell the difference between you and a "deplorable".

#19 | Posted by eberly

You were saying everyone denies responsibility for everything like trump does. Then when proved pathetically wrong, you switch to attacking me.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-04-06 01:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"performative"

You like that word, Bruthe.

Tell me....are in stage plays? act, direct, help in some form?

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 01:56 PM | Reply

-You were saying everyone denies responsibility for everything like trump does.

Actually, I asked if anybody takes the blame for anything. Obviously, you don't understand the difference.

Sorry but grade schools are all closed right now. maybe you can find a 3rd grader somewhere and have them explain the difference to you.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 01:58 PM | Reply

-Liberals.

Don't know anybody by that name. So far, the only names given are Harry Truman and Barack Obama.

#27 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 02:00 PM | Reply

Actually, I asked if anybody takes the blame for anything. Obviously, you don't understand the difference.

Sorry but grade schools are all closed right now. maybe you can find a 3rd grader somewhere and have them explain the difference to you.

#26 | Posted by eberly

The fact that you had to ask the answer to such a simple question makes you look not too bright.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-04-06 02:22 PM | Reply

Janet Reno took responsibility for Waco and Atlanta bomber leak.
Colin Powell took responsibility for lots
Bush II took responsibility for Katrina and others
Biden for Anita Hill
Condoleezza Rice took some responsibility for Iraq occupation

#29 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-06 02:30 PM | Reply

Republicans used to take responsibility, but not cult45ers.

#30 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-06 02:32 PM | Reply

28

what does it make you look like? I'd let it go if I were you.

But my point, and this thread is a decent example, is that deplorables and folks like you are indistinguishable when it comes to admitting fault or taking blame.

The only real obstacle to taking blame for something is pride. Political pride in this sense.

And pride is a sin committed by folks of all political stripes.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 02:32 PM | Reply

But my point, and this thread is a decent example, is that deplorables and folks like you are indistinguishable when it comes to admitting fault or taking blame.

The only real obstacle to taking blame for something is pride. Political pride in this sense.

And pride is a sin committed by folks of all political stripes.

#31 | Posted by eberly

No stupid, it's that repubs are stupid. To defend trump not taking any responsibility for anything, you asked if ANYONE does (a stupid question). Then you got evidence that plenty of people do, then you started attacking those who proved how stupid your question was. Then you started saying that those who take no responsibility for anything are indistinguishable from those that do, further proving how stupid you are. Are we all caught up now?

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-04-06 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

32

LOL.......then you....then you....then you......what a fccking crybaby ----.

go sniff someone else's ---, loser.

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 03:24 PM | Reply

-It's mother nature's way of thining the Trumphumper ----- herd.

Have you bothered to look at where the deaths are concentrated? Very urban areas....IOW, the highest concentration of non-Trumphumpers.

It's going to thin the herd of Trumphumpers, to be sure....but at a greater cost of human life elsewhere.

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 03:33 PM | Reply

Another mature, provocative discussion to be enjoyed by all.

Oh wait - no it's not.

#36 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-04-06 03:35 PM | Reply

LOL.......then you....then you....then you......what a fccking crybaby ----.

go sniff someone else's ---, loser.

#34 | Posted by eberly

If you dont want others to point out the stupid things you say, its your responsibility to stop saying stupid things.

Christ are to too stupid to even see the irony here? you're refusing to take responsibility, in a thread where you are defending trump refusing to take responsibility.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-04-06 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

36

It was a----------- between --------, zed, bruthe, etc...then someone came along and asked a question.

Not an attack...just a question about pride and admitting fault.

and they lost their collective ---- over it.

I enjoyed it.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 03:49 PM | Reply

But do you admit fault for enjoying it, Eberly?

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-06 03:50 PM | Reply

-If you dont want others to point out the stupid things you say, its your responsibility to stop saying stupid things.

Then this should be the last post anybody ever sees from Speakstupid.

-you are defending trump

Aahh..the ole' lietroll method. pure desperation and rage.

take your nose elsewhere, boy.

#40 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 03:51 PM | Reply

This place is kind of boring without righties to kick around.

Free goatmackrisfidian!

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 04:37 PM | Reply

41

They're all 3 suspended?

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 04:41 PM | Reply

Is Eberly a lawyer? He certainly plays circular reasoning games like one. It's quite annoying and tiresome to watch him "perform" like a sad clown.
Loves attention I guess. Especially when everyone is essentially a captive audience,YAWN.

#43 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-06 04:44 PM | Reply

They're all 3 suspended?

#42 | Posted by eberly

I believe so.

I miss the days when dumped comments were on a page to read through and the bottom listed all the posters on vacation.

The dumped comments page was comedy gold.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 04:59 PM | Reply

Major Producer of Hydroxychloroquine Once Paid Michael Cohen Hefty Sum for Access to Trump

President Donald Trump on Sunday once again touted the potential life-saving benefits of treating coronavirus patients with hydroxychloroquine, a powerful anti-malaria drug, despite a dearth of medical professionals or clinical evidence supporting his claims. It just so happens that one of the largest manufacturers of the drug, Novartis, previously paid Trump's now-incarcerated former personal attorney Michael Cohen more than $1 million for healthcare policy insight following Trump's election in 2016.

The Swiss drug maker signed a contract that paid Cohen's newly formed limited-liability corporation Essential Consultants $100,000 per month in February of 2017. After details of the deal were leaked by the now-jailed Michael Avenatti, whose then-client Stormy Daniels was engaged in a legal dispute with the president, the company's CEO issued a public apology saying Novartis "made a mistake" in contracting with the president's personal attorney.

lawandcrime.com

This is all starting to make sense. As is with Trump 99.99% of the time, all you got to do is follow the money when wondering what his true intent is.

#45 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-06 04:59 PM | Reply

Who actually takes the blame for anything?

#11 | Posted by eberly

I do.

People call me an ----- and I own it.

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 05:00 PM | Reply

Liberals.

#21 | Posted by BruceBanner

In some instances even for things they're not to blame for!

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 05:03 PM | Reply

" People call me an ----- and I own it."

There was a comedian a while back, maybe 20+ years actually, that had a bit about there being only two types of people, creeps and -----s. He said the main difference was that a creep will deny being a creep but an ----- will admit it. To demonstrate his point he told this cringeworthy joke. He pointed out that those who laughed uncomfortably to themselves were the creeps while those that laughed out loud were the -----s.

Anybody remember who that was?

#48 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-04-06 05:06 PM | Reply

-it's quite annoying and tiresome to watch him "perform" like a sad clown.

plonk me or STFU, poser (or whoever you are....have I beaten you to a pulp in the past?)

#49 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 05:17 PM | Reply

44

I miss that as well.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 05:19 PM | Reply

"circular reasoning games"

That's just what you call something you don't understand.

That's not what it is.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-06 05:22 PM | Reply

They're all 3 suspended?

Looks to me like Mackris is gone, Goat is on a time out, and Nulli is pouting.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-04-06 06:31 PM | Reply

The people who are going to survive in rural areas are the ones that have what it takes to not go into town for weeks.

#54 | Posted by Tor at 2020-04-06 07:22 PM | Reply

have I beaten you to a pulp in the past?)

#49 | POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2020-04-06 05:17 PM | REPLY

when have you ever beaten anyone? let's see some evidence.

#55 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-06 07:44 PM | Reply

Aahh..the ole' lietroll method. pure desperation and rage.

take your nose elsewhere, boy.

#40 | Posted by eberly

EB: Trump and his cult are no worse than anyone else. No one takes responsibility for anything.

EVERYONE ELSE: Here is proof that others do take personal responsibility

EB: A little name calling should get me out of this jam.

#56 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-04-06 07:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eberly,lashing out blindly like a rabid animal.
His circumlocutions failing to impress is sorry thing to behold. Best to give it up for today old man. You got nothing but noise and fury,your "arguments" are a pathetic joke.

#57 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-06 08:16 PM | Reply

Looks to me like Mackris is gone, Goat is on a time out, and Nulli is pouting.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL

I wonder what happened that mackris got burned.

#58 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 08:41 PM | Reply

I wonder what happened that mackris got burned.

I would assume pissing off Rcade again. I'm assuming there is an acceptable comment count vs -------- ratio on which one must stay to the right side?

#59 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-04-06 08:50 PM | Reply

#12 EARTHMUSE

Ouch. Don't fall for that narrative. Those online sexual assaults against Hillary were Russian operatives positioned as Bernie supporters.

Where is hydrochloroquin being talked out most online?

#60 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-04-06 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-If you dont want others to point out the stupid things you say, its your responsibility to stop saying stupid things.
Then this should be the last post anybody ever sees from Speakstupid.
-you are defending trump
Aahh..the ole' lietroll method. pure desperation and rage.
take your nose elsewhere, boy.

#40 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Eb... you doing ok? Usually you stayed above the fray, but I have been noticing that you have seemed more on edge, more personal attacks lately.

Not that you are worse than how these other people usually are. But that you seem to be worse that YOU usually are. Engaging and getting drawn into the mud slinging.

This is hard on all of us. Don't let it get to you. I like having you as a reasonable voice (even if you ARE wrong most of the time, at least it is in a reasonable way :-) ).

#61 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-04-07 09:10 AM | Reply

61

I think it's several factors. First of all, this place has all but run off anybody not squarely on the left. If someone shows up and doesn't join the----------- with the usual suspects all in agreement and a discussion with differing view points is suggested.....then that person is more of a target than normally. Not by the normal folks who can engage in civil discourse but by the trolls who can only engage when it's 6 on 1. Second, as right wingers have been run off or chosen to leave, that gives more stage time for left wing trolls who offer nothing for me.

I'm fine....in fact, I'm thriving right now.

It would be best to just plonk the folks I was trying to talk with yesterday...they are incapable of it anyway and if you look at their posting history, mud slinging is all they do.

I appreciate the comments.....I think the most reasonable course is to plonk them.

#62 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-07 09:41 AM | Reply

"that gives more stage time for left wing trolls who offer nothing for me."

Then why do you still come here?

#63 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-07 10:57 AM | Reply

#63

Same as everybody else probably, boredom and habit.

#64 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-04-07 11:00 AM | Reply

First of all, this place has all but run off anybody not squarely on the left.

#62 | Posted by eberly

Interesting you still see this Plague as a Left/Right issue.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:03 AM | Reply

63

Good question.

65

I'm not making it a left/right issue. But 95% of the posts are partisan bashing.......so, if you dislike it being made a left/right issue...then take it up with the folks who have made it a left/right issue, Zed.

It's right in front of you. We have posters here who have invoked "GOP" or "republicans" a zillion times in the past 3 weeks. IOW, is IS a left/right issue with them.

address them, Zed.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-07 11:14 AM | Reply

Danni, not sure if you intended this.....but I'm going to take your question to heart.....now.

#67 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-07 11:16 AM | Reply

Sorry to hear that Eberly, I've never considered myself a troll. I certainly wasn't hoping for you to go away. I just meant that if this place makes you unhappy then perhaps you should vacation yourself. I've done that myself in the past and it actually was a good choice. You are an intelligent and valuable poster here, this place would be less valuable without you here.

#68 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-07 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eberly having a meltdown, what a Rube!

#69 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-07 04:22 PM | Reply

Lotta Republicans melting down these days... it's a Tinkle Down effect.

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-07 04:26 PM | Reply

address them, Zed.

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2020

I see Donald Trump, the Republican Party, and Trumpites as a mental health issue.

A very bad mental health issue.

I do understand that Kansas will vote Trump again this year.

That's just freaking crazy.

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 05:00 PM | Reply

I think it's several factors. First of all, this place has all but run off anybody not squarely on the left. If someone shows up and doesn't join the----------- with the usual suspects all in agreement and a discussion with differing view points is suggested.....then that person is more of a target than normally. Not by the normal folks who can engage in civil discourse but by the trolls who can only engage when it's 6 on 1. Second, as right wingers have been run off or chosen to leave, that gives more stage time for left wing trolls who offer nothing for me.
I'm fine....in fact, I'm thriving right now.
It would be best to just plonk the folks I was trying to talk with yesterday...they are incapable of it anyway and if you look at their posting history, mud slinging is all they do.
I appreciate the comments.....I think the most reasonable course is to plonk them.
#62 | Posted by eberly a

The Retort has 167 members who have declared their party affiliation.
Democrat: 43 (25.75%)
None: 42 (25.15%)
Independent: 42 (25.15%)
Other: 18 (10.78%)
Republican: 16 (9.58%)
Green: 3 (1.8%)
Libertarian: 3 (1.8%)

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-07 05:15 PM | Reply

First of all, this place has all but run off anybody not squarely on the left.
#62 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Oh come on. Nobody got "run off." They're cowards, plain and simple.
Thousands upon thousands of Americans are dying needlessly, owing to the incompetence of the Trump administration.
Rather than face that, they cut and run.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-07 05:16 PM | Reply

162 members have declared their political ideology.
Liberal: 57 (35.19%)
Other: 39 (24.07%)
None: 30 (18.52%)
Conservative: 21 (12.96%)
Libertarian: 13 (8.02%)
Anarchist: 2 (1.23%)

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-07 05:19 PM | Reply

wah

-eberly

#75 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-07 05:55 PM | Reply

If it were true that Trump's incompetence was only killing his supporters, I would find justice in that. But obviously it is a lot more than just right wing idiots who are getting struck by this pandemic.

#76 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-07 07:06 PM | Reply

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