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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Monday, April 06, 2020

Amid Fox News' round-the-clock promotion of anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine as a potential coronavirus cure, renowned biologist Dr. William Haseltine told Fox News host Dana Perino on Monday that it was "irresponsible" to tout the unproven drug and called claims of its miraculous healing powers "complete and utter nonsense."

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"It is sad, to me, that people are promoting that drug," Haseltine, known for his HIV/AIDS research, responded. "We know, already, from studies, at best it will have a very mild effect. At very best."

The doctor went on to note that there have been conflicting studies on the drug's efficacy in treating coronavirus, reiterating that even studies showing a positive effect show it to be "very mild." He also said that the drug has been used against other viruses to no effect.

"The thing that makes me sad about that story is some people may take it who are on other medications who have other underlying conditions and may have very serious, even life-threatening consequences," Haseltine declared. "It is not something to take unless a doctor prescribes it."

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On the bright side, 29 million units can clean a LOT of aquariums!

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-04-06 08:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What does he know? He's just a renowned doctor, not a Faux News host.

#2 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-04-06 08:52 PM | Reply

Irresponsible?? As in. Not very responsible??

Trumpy already told yas if yas was listening ya dopes.

Trumpy is from the Federal Government.

New motto. They are NOT here to help you. All that stockpiled stuff belongs to Trumpy now.

Helping is the job of the states. The Feds have important federal stuff to do.

Sorry. Trumpy is just not the responsible person we are looking for.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-06 09:01 PM | Reply

Saying the effects are mild is simply untrue given the research that has been done in France.

How so? Explain.

For the 'studies' saying it had a mild impact, those were done vs. other expensive anti-viral treatments, not vs. a null sample.

Because that's extremely unethical. That's NEVER how research is done in these cases.

These people crapping on hydroxychloroquine should be ashamed as they are putting politics over people.

What do you call overselling something that's not sufficiently supported at this point?

There is nothing anecdotal about the French study, that is science working as it should.

No, but it's a completely valid criticism to note small sample sizes in a standalone study. That is science working as it should.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 10:17 PM | Reply

#5 | Posted by MAGA_2020

Vaccines are very low profit. Those producing chloroquine stand to make far more than a vaccine would if people are treated piecemeal over time and possibly repeatedly.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-06 10:20 PM | Reply

I have no idea if it works or how well but I take it without question if there is chance to avoid an incubator. I've known people that to go an incubator and I'm not sure I could do it. I'd have to be sedated.

You wouldn't necessarily have to take this forever just long enough for your body's natural immune system to learn how to produce anti-bodies for this virus.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-06 11:16 PM | Reply

79 out of 80 cured of the disease for hospitalized cases. If that is mild, how do you define very effective?

The published study was only in 20 patients.

And the more significant effect was when chloroquine was administered with azithromycin.

And that doesn't answer the question. You have to describe the differential to controls (in French study it was patients who declined the chloroquine treatment and patient reports who didn't have access to it).

But, if you want to say its benefits are 'mild' that is the point of comparison.

No, studies are always looking for significant increases compared to standard of care.

If this repeats and shows it does improve upon standard of care then it'll be used. Fact is the data doesn't exist yet.

Not sufficiently supported by your standards maybe - but people are dying now so we don't have multiple years for a double blind study on a drug that is completely safe.

Nobody is calling for years worth of studies.

Just a little more discretion from Orange Schitstain in not selling something as a panacea based on 20 patients.

I call that the rational approach as banking on a vaccine is fools gold when we have viruses like herpes and HIV that have been studied for decades without a vaccine.

There is far too much to unpack there for a blog. Lets just say you chose two very poor fruit to compare to our apples.

And no, a vaccine isn't fool's gold. The faster the population develops significant widespread immunity the faster this becomes a thing of the past or a season upper respiratory infection like the other coronaviruses in circulation.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 12:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mis-characterizing the results as 'mild' is not a valid criticism basing that on one Chinese paper. This guy is not an MD - he is concerned about profits and Trump is taking those away from his greedy, blood soaked hands.

#9 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Chloroquine itself was a mild benefit. You haven't read the study they're referring to have you?

And so what if he's not an MD. Truthfully, PhDs are better at this than MDs who are quite often glorified mechanics running through the motions.

As for the rest, LOFL. Vaccine are typically not big money makers for pharma companies.

www.cdc.gov

That's the price per dose for current vaccines.

Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is priced at about $11 per 200 mg tablet.

www.drugs.com

The treatment regimen described in the French paper is 200 mg 3X per day for ten days, meaning $330 dollars IF pricing stays the same and pharma doesn't gouge the ----- out of it.

Even as a generic that's significantly more $$$ than a vaccine.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 12:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#9 ... Not sufficiently supported by your standards maybe - but people are dying now so we don't have multiple years for a double blind study on a drug that is completely safe. ...

I'd proffer that no drug, approved or otherwise, attains the completely safe appellation you mention.

So maybe your message would be received better if you stop the unnecessary hyperbole.

Jus' sayin'

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-04-07 12:27 AM | Reply

JPW executes MAGAQuack. Call the cops.

#13 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-07 12:36 AM | Reply

watermark.silverchair.com

Is this the Chinese study you were referring to? Only 20 patients again...

And not much in the way of significant differences, especially in light of the much later mean time from symptom onset in the non-chloroquine group (2.5 vs 6.5 days) and worse radiological presentation of those patients.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 01:29 AM | Reply

Trump's False Coronavirus Claim About Lupus Patients

President Donald Trump once again touted hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus. This time, the president falsely claimed that "people with lupus" who take hydroxychloroquine "aren't catching this horrible virus."

www.factcheck.org

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-07 06:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Coronavirus (COVID-19) and lupus
Updated: April 4, 2020

The most up-to-date health information on the coronavirus outbreak for people with lupus. Here, you'll find the most recent news; the steps that the Lupus Foundation of America is taking to protect the health and availability of hydroxychloroquine for people with lupus; and resources that will help you stay both mentally and physically healthy during this uncertain time.

If you have lupus, you're at higher risk for infections like the coronavirus, also known as COVID-19. Some people with lupus may also be at risk for more serious complications from catching the coronavirus.

The situation is changing rapidly. As soon as we are aware of a change in recommendations we will update our information. Your local health department is the best source of risk information for your area.

www.lupus.org

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-07 07:13 AM | Reply

Quit trying to destroy your credibility. The people on HCQ with lupus having much lower incidence of covid-19 came straight from China's statistics which is why HCQ was looked at originally. You are trying to conflate "aren't catching" with "Zero cases", it is a ridiculous stretch simply because 'orange man bad'. Stop it. You look foolish.

LOL

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-07 07:18 AM | Reply

The jury is still out:

Small Trial Suggests Antimalarial Drugs Not Effective For Treating Coronavirus

However, a study just published in a French medical journal provides new evidence that hydroxychloroquine does not appear to help the immune system clear the coronavirus from the body.

The study comes on the heels of two others - one in France and one in China--that reported some benefits in the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin for COVID-19 patients who didn't have severe symptoms of the virus.

www.sciencealert.com

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-07 07:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Even Cuomo said it was having a positive impact."

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said Monday that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective," but that official data was still forthcoming.

thehill.com

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-07 08:02 AM | Reply

Posted by MAGA_2020

LOL!!!

Where did this dope come from?

#23 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-04-07 08:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#23

It's probably Ira, aka Special Eddie, or just another in a long line of one trick ponies.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-07 08:09 AM | Reply

Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding OF Donald Trump knows that he hopes to make money off of COVID-19.

It will be almost impossible to prevent him doing do. The next Administration needs to be willing to claw it all back from him.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 08:31 AM | Reply

Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding OF Donald Trump knows that he hopes to make money off of COVID-19.

It will be almost impossible to prevent him doing so. The next Administration needs to be willing to claw it all back from him.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 08:37 AM | Reply

So tests have been more positive than not and that's a bad thing? If there was one, only one patient that died from its use when prescribed from an MD it would be headline news from the left.

#27 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-04-07 09:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So tests have been more positive than not and that's a bad thing?

#27 | Posted by fishpaw at

That trump has a financial interest in the drug is a bad thing.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 09:26 AM | Reply

And if it works, as it seems like it does, then Trump can pick where he wants wants his face on Mount Rushmore.

Holy Scheeeeiit! I haven't laughed this hard since Richard Pryor did his last stand up routine.

Thanks for the comic relief in these otherwise bleak times. You're a peach.

#31 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-07 10:18 AM | Reply

And if it works, as it seems like it does, then Trump can pick where he wants wants his face on Mount Rushmore.

#30 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

And if it doesn't work, and it seems like it doesn't work and it seems like trump is a dangerous idiot scamming us again then there is a secret cave up there we can put him into for safe keeping and to protect America from further harm. We don't want to put him in the ground. Trump wouldn't even make good compost. Too much greasy fat. It would burn the goodness right out of soil.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 10:21 AM | Reply

I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation for t'rump's cheerleading for the antimalarial drug.

It couldn't be that he, and his family, are personally invested in the company that produces it.

Could it?

Well, yeah, according to the NYT. Sorry. The failing NYT.

#33 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-04-07 10:25 AM | Reply

"That trump has a financial interest in the drug is a bad thing.
#28 | POSTED BY ZED "

And if it works, as it seems like it does, then Trump can pick where he wants wants his face on Mount Rushmore.

#30 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 09:48 AM | Reply

Sure, man. And if doesn't work what should we do with him?

#34 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:35 AM | Reply

because you care more about hating Trump than saving lives.

#35 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 10:44 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

No one believes that Donald Trump loves anyone enough to save them.

#36 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:48 AM | Reply

#30 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 09:48 AM | Reply

Sure, man. And if doesn't work what should we do with him?

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:49 AM | Reply

because you care more about hating Trump than saving lives.

#35 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

You care more about loving a lying hateful Trumpy than saving lives.

How many Americans lives need to be sacrificed to Humpy's gawds Greed and Ignorance?

The most irresponsible president ever.

YOU should be ashamed.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 10:49 AM | Reply

And if doesn't work what should we do with him?

#34 | POSTED BY ZED

Put him into a rocket.

Shoot it into the Sun. I think it is the only safe thing to do with that much hazardous waste.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 10:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump loves everyone ZED

#39 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at

Be nice to see the evidence.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:52 AM | Reply

Trump loves everyone ZED, even the militantly stupid like you.

#39 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Liar.

Trump hates horrid reporters who ask nasty horrid little questions.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 10:52 AM | Reply

Sociopaths don't love.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:53 AM | Reply

"Objects" to include other people, may acquire value to a sociopath like Trump, but he'll never love anything.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:53 AM | Reply

Donald Trump doesn't love his wife, his children, or his country.

#46 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:55 AM | Reply

And what should he do differently?

#45 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020

Shut-up and let Dr. Fauci talk.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The American people won't forget the traitorous left

#45 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-

11,000 American dead today, and Donald Trump had nothing to do with it.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 10:57 AM | Reply

"And what should he do differently?"

He should resign. Immediately.

Most irresponsible president ever.

#49 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 10:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The American people won't forget the traitorous left

#45 | Posted by MAGA_2020

It's a pandemic with the most pathetic response in history.

Don't worry your little two sizes two small heart about it.

The ones that live through this will never forget.

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:01 AM | Reply

but it is sinking in that you have zero chance of winning the election.

51 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at

Biden six points ahead of Trump in Florida.

#53 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:06 AM | Reply

Yeah, they won't forget and they will vote for Trump.

#52 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 11:03 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Biden three points ahead of Trump in Wisconsin.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:07 AM | Reply

So yes, keep dreaming of a Trumm resignation while he works tirelessly to save losers like yourself.

#51 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 11:

1) He'll never resign. He must be thrown out bodily.

2) Trump barely manages to work four hours out of day, and two of those are in those televised "briefings".

3) And, to repeat, Donald Trump doesn't care if either one of us lives or dies.

#55 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:10 AM | Reply

Joe Rogan just picked Trump

#56 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at

I don't know who Rogan is. So I guess I'm not impressed.

#57 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:16 AM | Reply

MAGA 2020 joined today, is making an ass of himself today. He ought to be kicked out of here permanently today. Piece of filth.

"This is will an epic landslide."

Possibly, but too stupid to notice we are landsliding towards death. Four more years, we'll all be dead. And morons like that will celebrate victory and then notice they're dead too.

#58 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-07 11:17 AM | Reply

Joe Rogan just picked Trump

#56 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at

I looked him up.

Rogan is a comedian.

Now I'm impressed.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:20 AM | Reply

If you are so clueless to not know Joe Rogan

#59 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 11:

You're trying too hard.

But keep on, you're a bit of fun.

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:21 AM | Reply

10,000 dead

#61 | Posted by MAGA_2020

11,000 dead.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:22 AM | Reply

but you clearly don't know what the hell you are talking about.

#63 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 11:22 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Sure, man. Tell me why the guy with the podcasts (Rogan) is a genius. I'm glad to hear you out.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:24 AM | Reply

11,000 American dead today, and Donald Trump had nothing to do with it.

#48 | POSTED BY ZED

Magats can't seem to do the math.

Today it's 11000 dead. That number (of confirmed dead) is doubling approximately every 5 days now in America .

Magats do not understand the nature of the exponential growth in a pandemic.

The horror is just beginning if we do not get that curve bent downwards. Is the magats magic drug bringing that number down?

That's all I care about. Not the magats hateful little feelings.

#66 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:26 AM | Reply

Zed getting in his daily workout with MAGA.....

#68 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-07 11:31 AM | Reply

Your 10 seconds of research might put you atop the list of the losers on this site, but you clearly don't know what the hell you are talking about.

#63 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Malarkey.

No one can take snipers dunce cap away with his 36 plonks! Clearly sniper is at the top of the list of DR "losers".

You just got here so give yourself some time. You can be top loser someday too just keep doing what you are doing!

But it's gonna be tough because that sniper dude is one pure Dummy!

Dog faced pony soldier dumb!

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:37 AM | Reply

Also, I guarantee you we will not have 22K dead in the next 5 days.

#69 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Ok magat.

#72 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:37 AM | Reply

190M downloads a month - and he is a center leaning liberal that sees trends and sets trends. He owns the 18-40 year old demographic.

#67 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at 2020-04-07 11:29 AM | Reply

This is why you see him as a genius?

How old are you?

#73 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:38 AM | Reply

Also, I guarantee you we will not have 22K dead in the next 5 days.

#69 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

What do I get if you violate the guarantee?

#74 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:40 AM | Reply

Also, I guarantee you we will not have 22K dead in the next 5 days.

#69 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Oh looks. A guarantee from a magat.

Your guarantees are worthless.

#76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:42 AM | Reply

I think I have already have had enough.

#77 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at

I was just starting to like you.

#78 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's 11,781 American deaths now. I wonder if it will make 13,000 by midnight?

#79 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:50 AM | Reply

I will probably post again when Trump wins re-election just to remind you all how stupid you are, but I don't see a point beyond that.

#77 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Ok magat.

See you then.

Thanks for playing.

#80 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:50 AM | Reply

This is why you don't f%$k with Zed.

#81 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-07 11:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

I wonder if it will make 13,000 by midnight?

#79 | POSTED BY ZED

15 cases soon to be zero

It will just blow over like magic.

And the number of deaths definitely won't double in 5 days.

The magats have guaranteed that.

And magats have never lied.

#82 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-07 11:53 AM | Reply

RKO Pictures was an American film production and distribution company. In its original incarnation, as RKO Radio Pictures, Inc. (a subsidiary of Radio-Keith-Orpheum, aka: RKO)[1] it was one of the Big Five studios of Hollywood's Golden Age. The business was formed after the Keith-Albee-Orpheum (KAO) theater chain and Joseph P. Kennedy's Film Booking Offices of America (FBO) studio were brought together under the control of the Radio Corporation of America (RCA) in October 1928.[a] RCA chief David Sarnoff engineered the merger to create a market for the company's sound-on-film technology, RCA Photophone. By the mid-1940s, the studio was under the control of investor Floyd Odlum.

WIKIPEDIA

#84 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 11:57 AM | Reply

Rogan was/is a Bernie bro - and he's one of the 15% that say they'll vote for Trump. He's never impressed me.

Interesting choice of words from MAGA_2020 - "koi pond cleaner." You know who was using that term and isn't posting today? Iragoldberg.

And never once did Trump say to self-medicate with koi pond cleaner
and and you losers probably ended up killing people by delaying the treatment over fears of koi pond cleaner. That blood is on your hands.
Iragoldberg last post was 3/30/2020.
MAGA_2020 was created 4/6/2020.

#85 | Posted by YAV at 2020-04-07 11:59 AM | Reply

"Iragoldberg last post was 3/30/2020."

Gee; only 7 1/2 months earlier than I predicted.

#86 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-04-07 12:01 PM | Reply

If that goof doesn't know Joe Rogan, the chances are just about zero he knows about the RKO.

First, where did I say that I didn't know who Joe Rogan is?

Second pipsqueak, the gif I posted is indeed an RKO but it was first the Ace Crusher, then the Diamond Cutter, and later the Stone Cold Stunner before Orton adopted the move.

#88 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-07 12:12 PM | Reply

The cutter also formed the base for the later development of another professional wrestling move known as the stunner.

Take it up with Wikipedia, stunod. It's all make believe anyway.

In the immortal words of DX, SHUCK IT!

#90 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-07 12:19 PM | Reply

Iragoldberg last post was 3/30/2020.
MAGA_2020 was created 4/6/2020.
#85 | POSTED BY YAV

Nice catch.

CSI Miami has an opening, you should consider.

#91 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-07 12:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#89 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020 AT 2020-04-07 12:15 PM | FLAG:

Yknot, is that you?

#92 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-04-07 12:22 PM | Reply

I would say 'okay boomer' -

#87 | Posted by MAGA_2020 at

RKO is my father's generation, not mine,

#94 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-07 12:27 PM | Reply

"Also, I guarantee you we will not have 22K dead in the next 5 days."

Your guarantee is just about as good as Trump's. In other words completely worthless.
Adios A*****e! Don't let the door hit you in your brain while you're leaving.

#95 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-07 01:15 PM | Reply

"I will probably post again when Trump wins re-election just to remind you all how stupid you are, but I don't see a point beyond that.
#77 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020"

Bye Felicia!

Now flounce out of here, you old drama queen.

#96 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2020-04-07 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That was the initial study - you are 1 month behind the times. The second study used 80 patients with a 79% cure rate. You are exactly the reason why progress is so slow, you are very certain of yourself yet you are 100% wrong.

LOL the first study was published less than three weeks ago. The second a week later and the Chinese study I linked to was just published a few days ago.

Also, your coveted second study didn't have controls and was mostly in ambulatory patients, ie those with less severe disease.

www.the-hospitalist.org

100% agree - but the Chinese "study" showing mild results was versus a treatment 100x more expensive and was done without the z-pak and without the prescribed dosing regime. In short, referring to the Chinese 'study' is ridiculous when we have the 80 patient study out of France.

Dosing was higher in the Chinese study. 500mg 2X daily vs 200mg 3X daily. And yes, without the azythromycin.

But the second study out of France is uncontrolled, flawed in it's patient selection and still too small to be significant.

Maybe best if you stay in your armchair and keep your opinions to yourself.

LOL this from the guy who's clinging to this not because the science is robust but because Trump said it.

You don't know that - and no one else does either. There is no 100% certainty in a vaccine much less when it will be available.

Oh boy. Of course there's no guarantee. Nothing is ever guaranteed.

But there's a significant amount of pre-clinical data on coronavirus vaccines for SARS and MERS using multiple methods and vaccine platforms.

Maybe you should sit in your armchair and keep your ignorance to yourself?

Far cheaper and easier to do that via going about your normal life with an effective treatment.

#15 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

I already showed you the numbers. This is simply false no matter how much you repeat it.

#97 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 01:46 PM | Reply

Yea. But Trump has a financial interest in hydroxychloroquin and the Senate has already said the president can do whatever he wants to.

#98 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-07 01:47 PM | Reply

In fact, the more research done shows that it is the zinc that is the miracle part of the cure, the chloroquine just helps it be absorbed into the cells. Again, you are about 3 months behind the times. Catch up with the latest and than we can discuss more. No point talking about out-dated information.

#16 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

LOL oh man.

Where do you read this garbage?

It's known how chloroquine interrupts the viral life cycle.

Stop commenting on something you clearly know nothing about and only want to sound smart by asserting garbage as correct.

Also, three months? The first French study is just shy of three weeks since publication.

I'm guessing your dismissive tone is because you're getting stomped but can't admit it.

#99 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 01:48 PM | Reply

which is why HCQ was looked at originally.

Hydroxychloroquine was looked at because it's cheap, abundant and there's lab data showing inhibition of the virus in vitro.

#100 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 01:50 PM | Reply

It's probably Ira, aka Special Eddie, or just another in a long line of one trick ponies.

#24 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Their mannerisms and style are definitely Ira.

I didn't know schitberg had been axed.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 01:55 PM | Reply

That would be moronic and almost criminally negligent. The American people won't forget the traitorous left, your mentally deficient Dem candidate, our the communist Chinese you love to propagandize on behalf of.

#45 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

This is definitely Iraschitberg.

What did you do to get the boot? And why are you slithering back where you're clearly not wanted?

#102 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-07 01:58 PM | Reply

Biden can't win. Joe Rogan just picked Trump - Bernie bros will too. This is will an epic landslide.
#56 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020 AT 2020-04-07 11:14 AM | REPLY

It Was Like Pulling Teeth': AOC Backed Away from Sanders Campaign after Joe Rogan Endorsement

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) declined multiple pleas from the Bernie Sanders campaign to stump for the Vermont senator's candidacy after the Iowa caucuses, according to HuffPost.

Ocasio-Cortez was heavily involved in the campaign's buildup to Iowa, headlining seven rallies for Sanders in Iowa over the weekend of January 24 to January 26.

But the progressive New York representative disagreed with the campaign over its decision to promote the endorsement of Joe Rogan, the popular podcaster who has been criticized by LGBT activists for opposing puberty blockers for gender-confused children. He has also spoken out against the participation of biological males competing in women's sports.


news.yahoo.com

#103 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-07 02:10 PM | Reply

Glad to see we have a new (probably recycled) troll.

#104 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-04-07 02:10 PM | Reply

MAGA_2020 makes Sniper look smart and AndreaMackris look honest.

#105 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-07 02:28 PM | Reply

MAGA_2020 makes Sniper look smart and AndreaMackris look honest.
#105 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

So did IRA.

Coincidence?

#106 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-07 02:31 PM | Reply

But the progressive New York representative disagreed with the campaign over its decision to promote the endorsement of Joe Rogan, the popular podcaster who has been criticized by LGBT activists for opposing puberty blockers for gender-confused children. He has also spoken out against the participation of biological males competing in women's sports.
news.yahoo.com
#103 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Those issues are serious enough to make such a drastic decision? Because of Joe ------- Rogan?

HAHAHA! That's pathetic.

#107 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-07 02:33 PM | Reply

My guess is MAGA_2020 is Irag. Surely there aren't two people that stupid.

#108 | Posted by anton at 2020-04-07 07:38 PM | Reply

Holy cow! I plonked MAGA_2020 as soon as I saw the username, but I was reading it's comments without logging in and just WOW! My hat is off to you sir/madam, you are a troll extraordinaire. Articulate, well read, and completely on the wrong side of everything. Everything you say is filtered through...something. CCP/Trump filter I suppose. Please keep posting, I'm having a ball watching you make an fool of yourself. TRump/Firing Squad 2021!

#109 | Posted by Ilya_Koslov at 2020-04-07 07:41 PM | Reply

#110

The totally inadequate planning and response is directly Trump's Fault.

You of all people should understand total inadequacy.

#111 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-07 08:16 PM | Reply

I would say that your ex wife would be in a much better position - but we all know that no actual human female would come within 10 feet of a militantly ignorant person as yourself.

#112 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020 AT 2020-04-07 08:24 PM | REPLY

That's Ira all right. No mistaking that ----.

#113 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-07 08:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Hey Hey Hey! Don't insult ---- by comparing them to Irag! That's my favorite part of the female anatomy.

#114 | Posted by Ilya_Koslov at 2020-04-07 08:36 PM | Reply

#112

lmao! I've read better burns by itinerant sheep humpers.... oh, wait, you may be the worst of them!

#115 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-07 08:44 PM | Reply

I had such high hopes for MAGA_2020 but it looks like it may be running out of steam. Pity. Maybe just tired? Trolls get tired too I suppose.

#116 | Posted by Ilya_Koslov at 2020-04-07 08:47 PM | Reply

You should go to bed MAGA_2020, give it another shot tomorrow. Are you sun-downing by any chance? Lewy-body dementia is terrible

#118 | Posted by Ilya_Koslov at 2020-04-07 09:00 PM | Reply

BERNIE 2020, no fear,no favor.

#119 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-07 09:01 PM | Reply

So, ImaTrumptoad had to get a new handle?

Figures.

With friends like Trump, Republicans really don't need more enemas.

#121 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-07 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Irag, the master of disguise, is back baby! Woo!

#122 | Posted by anton at 2020-04-07 09:54 PM | Reply

{yawn}

#124 | Posted by YAV at 2020-04-07 10:39 PM | Reply

That is why they are working overtime trying to make it look like the virus is Trump's fault versus blaming the Chinese.

#110 | POSTED BY MAGA_2020

Except that's now remotely close to what anybody has said, Schitberg.

#126 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-08 12:21 AM | Reply

www.sciencemag.org

Article about proposed tests of clorequin or however it's spelled

#127 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2020-04-08 02:03 AM | Reply

www.sciencemag.org

Another

#128 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2020-04-08 02:05 AM | Reply

Caveat emptor:

Hydroxychloroquine-COVID-19 study did not meet publishing society's "expected standard"

The paper that appears to have triggered the Trump administration's obsession with hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for infection with the novel coronavirus has received a statement of concern from the society that publishes the journal in which the work appeared.

retractionwatch.com

#129 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-04-08 07:20 AM | Reply

MAGA - you're a boring, whiny, lying POS, and tediously, painfully, repetitious.
Tony Roma is miles above you in adding value here.

#130 | Posted by YAV at 2020-04-08 07:29 AM | Reply

Looks like Ira gets the boot again.

#131 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-08 08:36 AM | Reply

#131 Sheeple is on visitor status too, for anyone who still thought that wasn't Ira.

#132 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-08 09:19 AM | Reply

#132 - nailed it.

#133 | Posted by YAV at 2020-04-08 10:00 AM | Reply

I thought Ira was a better writer than Sheeple personally.

#134 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-04-08 10:08 AM | Reply

#134 He's just Sheeple after his morning coffee (or whatever they drink in moscow).

#135 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-08 10:11 AM | Reply

(or whatever they drink in moscow).

#135 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-08 10:11 AM | Reply

A vodka infusion of wood chips and motor oil.

#136 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-08 10:44 AM | Reply

Why be surprised by the Dr. Donnie scam?

Trump previously ran a scam selling pretty worthless "vitamins" a few years ago. The business failed, of course, and I would assume that some creditors of his got screwed because that's his MO.

Basically you mailed in a urine sample and Trump's scam company would determine your "personalized vitamin regimen." If you do a Google search you can watch his Shamwow-style infomercial. It would be hilarious if it weren't such a dangerous reality for is now.

#137 | Posted by anton at 2020-04-08 10:56 AM | Reply

"Why be surprised by the Dr. Donnie scam?"

Surprised? No.

Shocked and disgusted at the brazen and criminal negligence? Yes.

#138 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-08 11:08 AM | Reply

A small study just came out on the use of Trump's miracle cure:

The study found absolutely no benefit.

The study is too small to be definitive but it's not a good start.

It's almost like Trump has money invested in this drug...Oh wait, he does?

#139 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-08 11:40 AM | Reply

Johns-Hopkins page states:

NON-FDA APPROVED USES
COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2, minimal, low-quality evidence)
Q-fever (in combination with antibiotic), hydroxychloroquine is preferred
Whipple's disease (in combination with antibiotic), hydroxychloroquine is preferred
Brucella (in combination with antibiotic), hydroxychloroquine is preferred

There's a great section on COVID-19 middle/bottom of the page that summarizes the past studies and results, and the past attempts to use chloroquine for other viruses such as influenza, dengue, and ebola. It was completely ineffective, and in the case of chikungunya it actually delayed clearance of the virus.

www.hopkinsguides.com

#140 | Posted by YAV at 2020-04-08 02:50 PM | Reply

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