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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, April 08, 2020

On Tuesday, President Trump hosted a call with business leaders to discuss efforts to provide financial relief to small businesses. During that call, he made an astounding claim: that his daughter Ivanka personally created 15 million jobs.

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Who could refuse Ivanka's appointment to the presidency at some future date given how vital she is to the country?

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-08 09:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

They won't invoke the 25th Amendment because most of them (all of them) are lackeys but those of us on the outside looking in can clearly see the man is out of his f*****g mind.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-08 09:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

... his daughter Ivanka personally created 15 million jobs. ...

So,, Pres Trump got his daughter a cushy job, and now is grossly exaggerating her work in that job to make her (and by extension, himself) look good.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-04-08 10:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I bet Ivanka was quite pleased to learn that she'd accomplished this. Next, Kushner will learn that he single handedly cured the coronavirus.

#4 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-04-08 10:42 AM | Reply

Maybe in China, where all her crap is manufactured.

OCU

#5 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-04-08 11:58 AM | Reply

Next, Kushner will learn that he single handedly cured the coronavirus.

#4 | Posted by horstngraben

Trump is going to save that one for himself. No, he's going to credit Jared with single-handily resolving a 4,000 year-old real-estate dispute in the Middle-East.

OCU

#6 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-04-08 12:02 PM | Reply

I bet Ivanka was quite pleased to learn that she'd accomplished this. Next, Kushner will learn that he single handedly cured the coronavirus.

#4 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN

No, Trump cured Coronavirus. Ask Ira...I mean MAGA_2020. Chloro whatever for the win!

Kushner achieved world peace.

#7 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-08 12:16 PM | Reply

Truth and Trumpism are antonyms.

#8 | Posted by cbob at 2020-04-08 12:16 PM | Reply

Easy slip up. He clearly meant that 15M is the number of jobs he has destroyed due to his mishandling of Covid-19.

#9 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-04-08 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No, he is the picture of perfect mental health.

Am I right, Republicans? Eh? Yes? Absolutely?

#10 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-08 12:23 PM | Reply

#6 and #7

Yeah, I should have thought that through a little better.

#11 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-04-08 12:38 PM | Reply

We take him too seriously. He was just joking. He's playing us like a fiddle. We keep falling for it. He's no different from Obama. They all do that. Trump tells it like it is. He's refreshing. He's emptying the swamp. Lying is no big deal. At least he's not Hillary. Joe Biden can't even string three words together. Trump plays chess while everyone else plays checkers. He has a plan. He's a businessman!

/s

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2020-04-08 12:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

"Trump plays chess while everyone else plays checkers. He has a plan. He's a businessman!"

Trump doesn't do anything, his fans do. Dumbasses outnumber people with intelligence. Trump's fans are dumbasses. If this Coronavirus Pandemic doesn't convince you of that nothing can.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-08 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump loves to send the social media off on these wild goose chases.

STOP running around with your hair on fire over these dumb pronouncements. They're ridiculous and you know it!

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-04-08 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ivanka created 10% of American jobs. And at the very most there are six degrees of separation between you and Kevin Bacon. So maybe, somehow, in a way we are not seeing, she really did create 10% of all American jobs. Let's not just ASSUME that Trump is blowing smoke out his ***.

#16 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-08 02:14 PM | Reply

STOP running around with your hair on fire over these dumb pronouncements. They're ridiculous and you know it!

#15 | Posted by Twinpac

But his base takes it as the gospel truth...

BTW, did you see where Trump has hired another Faux News fake-blond to NOT hold press briefings? She comes with all the qualities that Trump requires; a long held belief in 'birtherism', her understanding that Trump has never uttered a lie in public, and that his ---- doesn't stink.

OCU

#17 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-04-08 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Even listening to the 15 million jobs claim fully in context it is simply ludicrous.

#18 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-08 02:47 PM | Reply

Have Republicans just stopped posting here?

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-08 02:52 PM | Reply

To be clear, I would too if I were them, just curious.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-08 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Have Republicans just stopped posting here?

Likely having a protest Zoom sit-in at Nulli's place.

#21 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-04-08 02:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 7 | Newsworthy 1

Have Republicans just stopped posting here?

I think RCade's lightning hammer for drop kicking BSers has got them scared straight into silence.

Or they've come to realize all the Obama/H1N1 blameshifting has made them look awful stupid since the 1-month Cult 45 Covid death toll has already surpassed the entirety of swine flu's more than year long run.

#22 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-04-08 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Likely having a protest Zoom sit-in at Nulli's place.

Does the nursing home have wi-fi?

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2020-04-08 03:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Have Republicans just stopped posting here?

#19 | POSTED BY JOE

I was thinking about it and I feel kind of bad actually.

They were just posting the same usual nonsense they usually post. They can't help it. They're addicted to bullschit.

Rcade just lost his patience with it and they lacked the ability to mentally compensate for the new environment.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-08 04:51 PM | Reply

I know of course this will sound like sucking up to the site moderator. But c'mon. We are in the midst of a friggin' global pandemic. If there has ever been a time to crack down on medical misinformation and trolling about a health crisis, it is right now. I wish Rcade had done it sooner.

So does this make me a "gaping -----" according to right wing cry babies like RoC? Does anyone really care what they think?

#25 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-08 05:10 PM | Reply

More mudslinging please. This site is getting to be a boring echo chamber. I miss, nulli, goatman, mattress,ira,Boaz,Gracie, righto, et Al.

#26 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-08 05:44 PM | Reply

"Have Republicans just stopped posting here?"

Plenty of Democrats took a break after Trump got elected, myself included.

They're probably just waiting for this whole thing to blow over.

Which means they'll be gone for the next 18 months.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-08 05:45 PM | Reply

Also, Tremain,and madbomber, who I haven't seen either the last few days.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-08 05:48 PM | Reply

This is no echo chamber. Lots of differing political views here. It's just that without the individuals mentioned above, there is less trolling and juvenile insults. It becomes a better site.

#29 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-09 12:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

US weekly jobless claims jump by 6.6 million, bringing three-week total to more than 16 million

www.cnbc.com

Kudos to the stable jenius.

#30 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-04-09 08:56 AM | Reply

So we just lost all the jobs that Ivanka just created.

It's like she never did anything.

Like she never existed.

Someday maybe we can say the same thing about Humpy.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 10:40 AM | Reply

It's been interesting that DR lefties have noticed that very few conservatives are even posting any more. Y'all (looking at you: Moderh8 and JPW) have been clamoring for Rcade to ban conservatives en masse and Rcade has finally obliged.

Well, you got your echo chamber. You no longer have to spend much time having your views challenged. I hope this makes you happy. You got what you've been begging for.

Good job, I guess.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 11:30 AM | Reply

-they lacked the ability to mentally compensate for the new environment.

what new environment?

-If there has ever been a time to crack down on medical misinformation and trolling about a health crisis,

Who has been kicked off?

Besides Goatman of course....

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 11:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

-Lots of differing political views here.

Joe vs Bernie? Please......

#34 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 11:45 AM | Reply

Who has been kicked off?

Besides Goatman of course....

#33 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Goatman
Mackris
Sheeple
Wisgod

Mackris and Sheeple got perm bans. In Mackris's case it was for not taking CV seriously enough. Yes, you read that right. Sheeple...I have no idea.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 11:48 AM | Reply

35

really? if we don't take it seriously, we'll get permanently banned?

I gave up snorting blow off hookers' asses.

#36 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 12:00 PM | Reply

Oh please Jeff, that list represents the trolls and they rarely have anything to add to a thread. Wisgod does more name calling and insults than anything else. When people like Boaz or ROC get a ban for being conservative you would have something to complain about.

#37 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2020-04-09 12:02 PM | Reply

#37 | POSTED BY JUSTAGIRL_IDAHO

Yet the LW trolls post with impunity.

Aborton Monson, Reinhegetsbot, MrSilenceddogoog, Angry dad, Snoofy. To his credit Snoofy isn't exclusively a troll but all 4 of the so-called RW trolls who are currently kicked out contribute FAR more than the likes of Monson, Rein, et al...

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 12:10 PM | Reply

38

agree completely except regarding Snoofy....he is nothing but a troll worse than the others you mentioned.

#39 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 12:12 PM | Reply

agree completely except regarding Snoofy...

#39 | POSTED BY EBERLY

It's too bad you have him plonked. You are at your absolute best when you talk about his employment status.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 12:36 PM | Reply

Y'all (looking at you: Moderh8 and JPW) have been clamoring for Rcade to ban conservatives en masse and Rcade has finally obliged.

Why do righties have so much trouble with the truth?

Sheeple was the only one I ever called for to be banned because his posting was constant brazen dishonesty and deflection.

Guess why they got banned, Jeff. Because that's what all of those posters who got banned do on a regular basis-lie and deflect. And rcade finally said "no" on a topic that's too seriously to put up with that crap.

So cry me a river. They earned it by simply being who they are. Boo ---- hoo.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 12:49 PM | Reply

-they lacked the ability to mentally compensate for the new environment.
what new environment?
#33 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Rcade having a zero tolerance policy for lying and BS.

And it wasn't even on all topics, just one. And that was too much for them.

In Mackris's case it was for not taking CV seriously enough.

It was for spreading disinformation.

Again, you and that truth thing are having troubles.

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 12:52 PM | Reply

Sheeple was the only one I ever called for to be banned because his posting was constant brazen dishonesty and deflection.

That is a lie. You called for Sheeple, Mackris, Goat and Nulli all to be banned.

It was for spreading disinformation.

No. The explicit reason Rcade gave was because Mackris wasn't taking it seriously enough.

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Like I said, you can't abide opposing viewpoints and you got your wish granted, JPW. Welcome to your echo chamber.

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:07 PM | Reply

Ivanka has created FAR more jobs in China than in the U.S.

#45 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-04-09 01:13 PM | Reply

Rcade having a zero tolerance policy for lying and BS.
And it wasn't even on all topics, just one. And that was too much for them.

Then explain why AbortedMoron, AngryDad, Rein, Douchegood, Troofy and DBoy stay here untouched with the shht they spout.

I would wait, but the only answer you will have will be almost as angry and invective filled as their usual posts.

#46 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:18 PM | Reply

#46 I posed the same thing to Justagirl.

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:22 PM | Reply

-Rcade having a zero tolerance policy for lying and BS.

I don't think he has one. Not even on this topic. He tolerates some lying and BS.

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 01:22 PM | Reply

That is a lie. You called for Sheeple, Mackris, Goat and Nulli all to be banned.

LOL right. You must be super stalker to know my thoughts better than myself.

No. The explicit reason Rcade gave was because Mackris wasn't taking it seriously enough.
#43 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

While downplaying the seriousness of it and the measures being taken to combat it.

All the while snarkily throwing in "God Bless Trump".

I don't blame rcade for booting him.

Like I said, you can't abide opposing viewpoints and you got your wish granted, JPW. Welcome to your echo chamber.

#44 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I can't abide dishonest BS. That's always been and will always be my position.

So stop acting as if it's a simple disagreement because I've explicitly stated as such.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:23 PM | Reply

I would wait, but the only answer you will have will be almost as angry and invective filled as their usual posts.

#46 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Their posts aren't comparable to what got the others banned. Stop with the false equivalencies.

Or, show me the posts where they pushed chloroquine to support Trump's statements. Show me where they downplay the stats and advocate for reducing guidelines or removing them all together because the economy is more important than people's lives.

Show me that consistency is deserved for those posters and not simply that they're trolls on the left side of the spectrum.

I'll wait.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:25 PM | Reply

LOL right. You must be super stalker to know my thoughts better than myself.

I'm going by what you've explicitly said on this site. On several occasions you've called for Mackris, Nulli, Goat and Sheeple to be kicked off this site.

I can't abide dishonest BS. That's always been and will always be my position.

So stop acting as if it's a simple disagreement because I've explicitly stated as such.

#49 | POSTED BY JPW

You define "dishonest BS" as anything you disagree with.

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Their posts aren't comparable to what got the others banned.

We know. They are far worse. But they are on your "team" so it's all good.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Comments and complaints about site moderation will be deleted. These rules have been established by necessity and are no longer up for discussion.

just sayin'

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:30 PM | Reply

Rcade having a zero tolerance policy for lying and BS.

When people like Boaz or ROC get a ban for being conservative you would have something to complain about.

For me, it's the abuse. Half the time, I can post something, where I havent said ANYTHING about ANYONE and the regular trolls come in and start calling me names and contribute nothing to the thread.

We all know conservatives are treated differently on this site. Ok. But dont try to argue at us like moderation is even. All you liberals want is a place where you can insult, degrade and belittle those who you think are Trump supporters and the entire history of people ganging up on me is proof of it.

Without the conservative posters here, this place would be a ghost town and not a place people would want to visit for thoughtful debate or exchange of ideas. There's a reason liberal sites implode. There's a reason liberal echo chambers do not succeed.

So dont tell me I have nothing to complain about until the exact same moderation on my speech applies to the liberal trolls who operate here with impunity and wish death and evil upon those who they think are not of their ideology.

Like Jeff said, Welcome to your echo chamber.

#54 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 01:30 PM | Reply

When people like Boaz or ROC get a ban for being conservative you would have something to complain about.

We have.

#55 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:33 PM | Reply

Mackris and Sheeple got perm bans.

#35 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Though he/she/it has an articulate knack for it, Mackris spread more BS on this site than practically anyone. Perhaps RCade would simply prefer that everyone debate in a sphere of honesty.

#56 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-04-09 01:33 PM | Reply

Though he/she/it has an articulate knack for it, Mackris spread more BS on this site than practically anyone.

That is simply not supported by evidence.

#57 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#55

Awww... poor baby! No one ever got exiled here, "for being a conservative".

Your self-pity party notwithstanding.

#58 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 01:35 PM | Reply

since I have been named, I will defend myself by saying nothing I post advocates or promotes actions that will get people killed.

I don't think you can say that for most of the posters that got banned.

#59 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:36 PM | Reply

#57

So, we're saying that mAndrea spreading crisis actor conspiracies is not BS?

#60 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 01:36 PM | Reply

Nobody was calling for people to take actions that would get them killed. That is some vile BS, Troofy.

#61 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Boaz, when you post ignorant and hateful stuff on a regular basis, don't be surprised when you get called on it on a regular basis.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:37 PM | Reply

Nobody was calling for people to take actions that would get them killed. That is some vile BS, Troofy.
#61 | Posted by JeffJ a

Posting lies about cures for Covid falls into that category, apparently as decided by the owner of this website.

Sorry you don't understand that.

#63 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

since I have been named, I will defend myself by saying nothing I post advocates or promotes actions that will get people killed.

But wishing azzcancer on others is A OK!

-Also Troofy

#64 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:40 PM | Reply

#63 Nobody posted lies about cures for Covid.

#65 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:42 PM | Reply

since I have been named, I will defend myself by saying nothing I post advocates or promotes actions that will get people killed.
But wishing azzcancer on others is A OK!
-Also Troofy
#64 | Posted by Rightocenter

my wishes that horrible people get ass cancer is not promoting an action that gets them ass cancer.

But, you know that.

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:42 PM | Reply

Boaz, when you post ignorant and hateful stuff on a regular basis, don't be surprised when you get called on it on a regular basis.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts

Nothing I post is ignorant or hateful Truth.

Just because I say that Trans women shouldnt be able to compete against a natural woman is not hateful or ignorant.
Just because I wont say that someone born a man is a woman or call him a "her" is NOT hateful or ignorant.

Just because I wont agree that we should have open borders is not ignorant or hateful.
Just because I point out the destruction the democrat/liberal/feminist movements have had on the black community is not ignorant or hateful

Labeling any opposition to your ideology hateful and ignorant is only done to shut of constructive debate that might not be in line with your worldview, which is exactly what you did in this post Truth.

#67 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 01:43 PM | Reply

#63 Nobody posted lies about cures for Covid.
#65 | Posted by JeffJ

I disagree, and I will point to Rcade's actions as proof.

#68 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:43 PM | Reply

Rcade's actions?

He trigger-finger threw people in jail for saying far less nasty ---- that certain lefties say with impunity.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-Nobody posted lies about cures for Covid.

If they did, fine....I don't know.

-I will point to Rcade's actions as proof.

That's not proof of anything. Either he did it for that reason or he didn't. But the boss can and does toss anyone for any reason. So, again, that's not proof of anything.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 01:47 PM | Reply

my wishes that horrible people get ass cancer is not promoting an action that gets them ass cancer....

#66 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Of course, you define "horrible people" as anyone you disagree with. Unfortunately, you are hardly alone with that mindset.

#71 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nobody, not even Trump, encouraged anybody to ingest fish tank cleaner.

#72 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

my wishes that horrible people get ass cancer is not promoting an action that gets them ass cancer.
But, you know that.

#66 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 01:42 PM

So your "wish" is not "an action"?

Not only are you dumb but a trulyhorribleperson.

#73 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:49 PM | Reply

Nothing I post is ignorant or hateful Truth.
Just because I say that Trans women shouldnt be able to compete against a natural woman is not hateful or ignorant.
Just because I wont say that someone born a man is a woman or call him a "her" is NOT hateful or ignorant.
Just because I wont agree that we should have open borders is not ignorant or hateful.
Just because I point out the destruction the democrat/liberal/feminist movements have had on the black community is not ignorant or hateful
Labeling any opposition to your ideology hateful and ignorant is only done to shut of constructive debate that might not be in line with your worldview, which is exactly what you did in this post Truth.
#67 | Posted by boaz

Boaz, first I will say, to an extent, fair enough. I can agree that SOME conservative policies are not hateful or ignorant, but come from a sincere place of honest belief in a righteous goal. However, I will say that many conservative policies, including many that you express, come from a reactionary and hateful place, albeit coming from ignorance or blindness. Example-new understanding of gender dynamics is upsetting long held views on what is male and what is female, that it is not as simple as the structures you were born with. I get it, a concept like that will take a while to become understood by traditionally minded people like yourself. Gay marriage took a long time to be accepted, before that women's rights and equality and before that race issues. All took a while to be accepted.

So, while I respectfully acknowledge your right to your beliefs, I also realize that many of those beliefs are based on outdated concepts and I implore you to educate yourself and change.

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:50 PM | Reply

Your self-pity party notwithstanding.

#58 | POSTED BY CORKY AT 2020-04-09 01:35 PM | FLAG: flagging every post made by Jeff, ROC, and Eberly right now as abusive and emailing the boss to tell him folks are complaining about moderation on a thread.

#75 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 01:51 PM | Reply

Rcade's actions?
He trigger-finger threw people in jail for saying far less nasty ---- that certain lefties say with impunity.
#69 | Posted by JeffJ

You can insult Rcade all you want. That is not my bag.

#76 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:51 PM | Reply

#74 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Now that's more like it. I think you are wrong but I appreciate how you expressed yourself with that post.

#77 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 01:52 PM | Reply

-Nobody, not even Trump, encouraged anybody to ingest fish tank cleaner.

But the lie that he did say that was allowed to be posted here and accusations that he killed that man were allowed as well.

So, again, there is no "zero tolerance for lies and BS" policy here.

drama, anxiety, gross exaggerations, etc....all allowed here.

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 01:53 PM | Reply

Of course, you define "horrible people" as anyone you disagree with. Unfortunately, you are hardly alone with that mindset.
#71 | Posted by JeffJ

Nope, you are lying. I have never defined someone as a "horrible person" because they disagree with me.

President Zero is a horrible person. I think any objective person recognizes that.

People who support him may or may not be horrible people. Many republican politicians are horrible people. Most of President Zero's family are horrible people.

See, I define a horrible person on what that person says or does. Thus earning my desire for them to develop ass cancer.

#79 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:54 PM | Reply

You can insult Rcade all you want. That is not my bag.

#76 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 01:51 PM

Agreed, your "bag" is insulting people who you merely disagree with by calling them "Piss Boy", "Gunga Dimwit", say that they "swallow Trumps ----" and wish ass cancer on them.

Try growing up, it won't hurt.

#51 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-04 12:22 PM

#80 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:55 PM | Reply

Example-new understanding of gender dynamics is upsetting long held views on what is male and what is female, that it is not as simple as the structures you were born with.

Finally, some debate that actually evolves talking.

So, to that I would say, I think you cannot change "structures you were born with". I just think that is inviolate. Ether you had a penis when you were born or you had a vagina. That means, either you are male or female.

NOW. What you WANT or WISH to be is a different story. So if a man WANTS to be a woman, so be it. He can be feminine, he can wear dresses, he can wear panties. He can even have surgery. But in my mind, HE CANNOT GET ANGRY WHEN PEOPLE DONT ACCEPT HIM AS A WOMAN.

I get it, a concept like that will take a while to become understood by traditionally minded people like yourself.

Will you be able to "get it" if I dont want to understand it? Can you accept it's MY RIGHT to not accept it? And that I'm not a horrible person, or racist, or bigoted or evil just because I dont accept it?

And can you accept that sometimes, thoughts like this LBGT sometimes SHOULD NOT BE PROGRESSED?

#81 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 01:56 PM | Reply

-Nobody, not even Trump, encouraged anybody to ingest fish tank cleaner.
But the lie that he did say that was allowed to be posted here and accusations that he killed that man were allowed as well.
So, again, there is no "zero tolerance for lies and BS" policy here.
drama, anxiety, gross exaggerations, etc....all allowed here.
#78 | Posted by eberly

The problem with your argument is that the woman who actually ingested the fish tank cleaner blamed President Zero for them taking it.

I take her word over any poster on the DR

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:56 PM | Reply

See, I define a horrible person on what that person says or does.

*holds up mirror yet again*

#83 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I take her word over any poster on the DR

#82 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 01:56 PM

Of course you do, she is #Team.

#84 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 01:57 PM | Reply

On several occasions you've called for Mackris, Nulli, Goat and Sheeple to be kicked off this site.

Nope. Only Sheeple.

But you can keep repeating your lie if it makes you feel better.

You define "dishonest BS" as anything you disagree with.

#51 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

So you choose to double down on this stupidity.

Whatever Jeff. Just skulk away like Nulli if you're that butthurt. Making stuff up doesn't hide that in case you're wondering.

#85 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:58 PM | Reply

#82 because nobody that has ever done something stupid has has ever tried to blame it one someone else, amirite?

#86 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-04-09 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Agreed, your "bag" is insulting people who you merely disagree with by calling them "Piss Boy", "Gunga Dimwit", say that they "swallow Trumps ----" and wish ass cancer on them.
Try growing up, it won't hurt.
#51 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-04 12:22 PM
#80 | Posted by Rightocenter

Wrong in several ways.

I never say someone swallows the president's -----it's not my style.

I do not insult people for merely disagreeing with me. I insult them because they are hypocritical, lying trolls, who are constantly posting President Zero's propaganda.

And in my defense I have tried countless times to educate and inform certain posters who refuse to change. Thus making them hopeless and/or intentional trolls.

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 01:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

We know. They are far worse. But they are on your "team" so it's all good.

#52 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

They're advocating for policies against public health guidelines and medical advice? Really?

You're going to have to link that.

#88 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:59 PM | Reply

"So, while I respectfully acknowledge your right to your beliefs,"

And here is a good example of that "respectfully acknowledge"....

"Again, you are a ------- moron.

POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 01:23 PM"

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:00 PM | Reply

Speaking of dishonest BS:

On several occasions you've called for Mackris, Nulli, Goat and Sheeple to be kicked off this site.

Nope. Only Sheeple.

Hypocrite.

#90 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:00 PM | Reply

-I take her word over any poster on the DR

Yes, of course you would. She's the one who DRANK THE TANK CLEANER.

Nobody else did....so naturally, you will take her word.

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I take her word over any poster on the DR
#82 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 01:56 PM
Of course you do, she is #Team.
#84 | Posted by Rightocenter

And you call yourself a lawyer. Dismissing the testimony of the person at the center of the issue.

I wouldn't hire you to fight a parking ticket.

#92 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 02:02 PM | Reply

And in my defense I have tried countless times to educate and inform certain posters who refuse to change.

Not everyone needs to be "educated" to your ideology.

Would you think it right that sometimes you may need to be "educated" to an ideology different than yours?

"refuse to change"..

Change isnt mandatory. Change isnt always a good thing.

#93 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 02:02 PM | Reply

#82 because nobody that has ever done something stupid has has ever tried to blame it one someone else, amirite?
#86 | Posted by MUSTANG a

You are one logical step away from holding President Zero accountable for all the stupid things he has done.

#94 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 02:03 PM | Reply

I wouldn't hire you to fight a parking ticket.

#92 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 02:02 PM

You'd have to call Moderhate for that type of work.

#95 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:04 PM | Reply

They're advocating for policies against public health guidelines and medical advice? Really?

Nobody is doing that. Literally nobody.

#96 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:05 PM | Reply

Dismissing the testimony of the person at the center of the issue.

If the testimony is inconsistent with the facts it is inherently not credible.

#97 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:05 PM | Reply

Though he/she/it has an articulate knack for it, Mackris spread more BS on this site than practically anyone.
That is simply not supported by evidence.

#57 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Your ignorance of reality is not the same a lack of evidence.

He was intensely disingenuous and dishonest. Often times I doubted he actually believed it, especially when his post ended in "God Bless Trump!"

#98 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The problem with your argument is that the woman who actually ingested the fish tank cleaner blamed President Zero for them taking it.

I take her word over any poster on the DR

#82 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-04-09 01:56 PM

She also happens to be a Dem donor with a long history of mental problems.

#99 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:06 PM | Reply

Hypocrite.

#90 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Claiming it's true doesn't make it so.

Link to support or slink away to lick your butt wounds.

#100 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 02:06 PM | Reply

-flagging every post made by Jeff, ROC, and Eberly right now as abusive and emailing the boss to tell him folks are complaining about moderation on a thread.

#75 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You know, I actually did that once or twice 8 or 10 years ago.

Your pschic abilities have long since dwindled, Madame Eberly.

#101 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 02:06 PM | Reply

-And in my defense I have tried countless times to educate and inform certain posters who refuse to change.

well, you need to stop.

You suck at it. You suck at it so badly that leftists are embarrassed at times.

People would rather take their own life before being educated and informed by you.

Geez.......

#102 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:08 PM | Reply

#63 Nobody posted lies about cures for Covid.

#65 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I guess you missed Iraschitberg/MAGA2020's chloroquine binge a few days ago?

#103 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 02:08 PM | Reply

He was intensely disingenuous and dishonest. Often times I doubted he actually believed it, especially when his post ended in "God Bless Trump!"

#98 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2020-04-09 02:05 PM

Ooh! He said, "God bless Trump!" The horrors! That absolutely justifies a perma-ban. How ------- thin-skinned can you be?

#104 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:08 PM | Reply

101

you realize, of course, nobody believes that. Not even leftists.

#105 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I guess you missed Iraschitberg/MAGA2020's chloroquine binge a few days ago?

#103 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2020-04-09 02:08 PM

I saw that he was involved in a flame-war but I didn't read through the comments to see what he was saying.

Neither Mackris nor Sheeple (and I doubt Ira) advocated people ingesting fish tank cleaner.

MAGA_2020 got banned because it was a sock puppet account Ira was using to circumvent jail time.

#106 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:10 PM | Reply

See, I define a horrible person on what that person says or does.
*holds up mirror yet again*

#83 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

You must tolerate my intolerance!

Pfft right.

#107 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 02:11 PM | Reply

"You know, I actually did that 8 or 10 times once or twice today"
ft

#108 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ooh! He said, "God bless Trump!" The horrors! That absolutely justifies a perma-ban. How ------- thin-skinned can you be?

#104 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

It wasn't because he said it, that was the tell that the was being a willfully disingenuous hack.

Calm down, jeff. Your hyperventilating is clearly fogging your brain enough to cause a degradation of your comprehension skills.

#109 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 02:12 PM | Reply

-MAGA_2020 got banned because it was a sock puppet account Ira was using to circumvent jail time.

Which I see nobody is complaining about.

#110 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:13 PM | Reply

And in my defense I have tried countless times to educate and inform certain posters who refuse to change.
Not everyone needs to be "educated" to your ideology.
Would you think it right that sometimes you may need to be "educated" to an ideology different than yours?
"refuse to change"..
Change isnt mandatory. Change isnt always a good thing.
#93 | Posted by boaz a

Truth, facts and science are not an ideology.

I fully acknowledge that certain conservative beliefs are based on the gray area, where a person's morals come into play. For example, abortion. I can honestly see why a person can believe that life begins before birth, which brings into question at what point a choice for allowing abortion should be permitted. I fully get that. People can have honest differences on that issue.

But, there are many, many policies that are not at question, that conservative views are based on hatred or ignorance. For example, global climate change, or ----, the current Covid crisis. Conservative ignorance is getting people killed.

As for educated, yes, people have to be educated (in the broad sense of the term) on many issues. For example in the 80's and 90's I held many ignorant views on homosexuals, over time I educated myself, I met and grew to know and became friends with several gay men and women. I read about the struggle for gay rights and changed my opinions. I have done the same thing with trans people.

So I'm sorry, but when people defend the actions of the president in these issues, I having nothing but contempt for those people. Because his actions are getting people killed. There is only ONE acceptable action the president should be taking and that is to set all politics aside and do everything in his power to protect all Americans.

By the way, change is not mandatory but it will happen whether you are on board or not. Change doesn't care about your feelings or opinions. That includes societal changes. As facts and knowledge become more prevalent regarding trans' issues, society will change, it is inevitable. Because, get this, people are basically good

#111 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 02:13 PM | Reply

Nobody is doing that. Literally nobody.

#96 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Those who were removed were removed for that exact reason.

Rcade banned them for spreading misinformation.

I take that to mean you have no evidence of the others doing the same and have to admit to your false equivalency.

#112 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 02:13 PM | Reply

- you realize, of course, nobody believes that.

Hey, you're a Republican. Obviously you'll buh-lieve anything.

Ask Rcade... or is he a liar, too? Maybe everyone is lying to you. Especially your mom.

#113 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 02:14 PM | Reply

#111

Will wonders never cease, a semi-literate post from Trulyhorribleperson.

Keep it up.

#114 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:16 PM | Reply

jeff- " In Mackris's case it was for not taking CV seriously enough. Yes, you read that right."

mackris was directly warned by rcade to stop spreading false medical information.

#115 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Those who were removed were removed for that exact reason.
Rcade banned them for spreading misinformation."

I assume he announced this? Do we have his post?

#116 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:18 PM | Reply

-MAGA_2020 got banned because it was a sock puppet account Ira was using to circumvent jail time.
Which I see nobody is complaining about.
#110 | Posted by eberly

Interesting. Is there an equivalent poster on the left?

Sure, some of that may be bias. But, really, are there posters on the left that are so far in left field with regards to spam, trolling, etc.? To the point that if they were banned noone would miss them?

#117 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 02:18 PM | Reply

#112 Mackris was removed for not taking CV seriously enough. That was the reason Rcade gave. He made no mention of spreading misinformation as it pertained to Mackris.

#118 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:19 PM | Reply

#111
Will wonders never cease, a semi-literate post from Trulyhorribleperson.
Keep it up.
#114 | Posted by Rightocenter

Only a wonder to you.

#119 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-04-09 02:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#115

Now tell us how you got Goatman a vacation!

On the other hand, just go away.

#120 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:20 PM | Reply

Sure, some of that may be bias. But, really, are there posters on the left that are so far in left field with regards to spam, trolling, etc.? To the point that if they were banned noone would miss them?

AbortedMoron
AngryDad
ChiefTutMoses
Rein
Douchegood
BingyBunny

Need more examples?

#121 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#112 Mackris was removed for not taking CV seriously enough. That was the reason Rcade gave. He made no mention of spreading misinformation as it pertained to Mackris.

#118 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2020-04-09 02:19 PM | FLAG:

right before the ban he yelled at mackris in all caps to stop spreading false medical information.

roc- youre a watb now. it's sad.

#122 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:22 PM | Reply

- how you got Goatman a vacation!

Notice how it is always someone else's fault they are in exile, not their own.

Ask Dulli.... or any other rwinger.

Party of Responsibility Strikes Again!

#123 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 02:22 PM | Reply

#123

Alex bragged about doing exactly that on the Nooner, but then said he felt bad about it but got over it.

#124 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:24 PM | Reply

for the record i wouldn't have given goat a vacation, but it's not my website.

#125 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:24 PM | Reply

- watb

www.urbandictionary.com

I had to google that. Extremely adroit usage, btw.

#126 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 02:24 PM | Reply

" Alex bragged about doing exactly that on the Nooner"

that's a lie. i never bragged about getting anyone banned.

you're a vomit, roc. lousy person.

#127 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:25 PM | Reply

#125

for the record, that's an exception, not the rule

#128 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 02:27 PM | Reply

#127

You said "I got Goat a vacation..." but OK.

#129 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:28 PM | Reply

You said "I got Goat a vacation..." but OK.

#129 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2020-

link or stink

#130 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:29 PM | Reply

you're a vomit, roc. lousy person.

#127 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Says the guy who brings up personal ---- about other's past and distorts it. You're not really the best person to make that claim.

#131 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

it's not a distortion to call someone a deadbeat dad when they lay out a case of being one.
and it's fair game if he's going to accuse moder8 of "freeing kid diddlers"

#132 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:32 PM | Reply

#130

LOL, not going back 3 weeks in the Nooner for that, you know what you said along with how you started the flame war in the first place.

#133 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:33 PM | Reply

but jeffj isn't going to call out his pal, goatman. ever. in fact he compliments his trolling by referring to him as a "puppet master".

you've no leg to stand on.

#134 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:33 PM | Reply

-Have Republicans just stopped posting here?

Likely having a protest Zoom sit-in at Nulli's place.

#21 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2020-04-08 02:56 PM | FLAG: | FUNNY: 7

Thread Gold.

#135 | Posted by Corky at 2020-04-09 02:34 PM | Reply

#132 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2020-04-09 02:32 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Rationalization

#136 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:34 PM | Reply

LOL, not going back 3 weeks in the Nooner for that, you know what you said along with how you started the flame war in the first place.

#133 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2020-04-09 02:33 PM | FLAG:

OK you're just a liar then.

if it's three weeks why are you still shrieking about it?

#137 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:35 PM | Reply

At the time I started typing this it would have been post #127.

I had to put that in there or risk roughly of half of the next 126 posts saying I'm a liar.

Sort of like how roughly half of the first 126 was:

"You guys are worse. We aren't posting here anymore. Welcome to the echo chamber!"

Kinda weird how they keep logging in and posting whilst simultaneously not posting...

#138 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-04-09 02:35 PM | Reply

but jeffj isn't going to call out his pal, goatman. ever. in fact he compliments his trolling by referring to him as a "puppet master".

you've no leg to stand on.

#134 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Call him out for what? He's in jail right now. I'm not going to attack or call anyone out who doesn't have a means of defending himself.

#139 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:36 PM | Reply

way to miss the point, jeff.

i think that's your job around here.

#140 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:37 PM | Reply

Oh see.

I meant post #137.

That's what I mean.

What a liar, amirite??

I'm as bad as the dcckwads who are telling you to go to any pharmacy, even after it's closed, and the pharmacist, who isn't working will sell me a prescription drug that I don't have a prescription for and I'll be cured because little donnie dollhands said so.

#141 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-04-09 02:39 PM | Reply

wheres the part where i bragged about getting him banned, jeff?

because i didn't. good try, sport. *pats head* adults are trying to have a conversation here.

#143 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:40 PM | Reply

#132 Do you have a link to that thread?

#144 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-04-09 02:41 PM | Reply

#132 Do you have a link to that thread?

#144 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Of course he doesn't. He demands links when challenged but can't produce them when asked. It's called "double standard."

#145 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:44 PM | Reply

#145 Asking because I've never seen him post anything like that in the Nooner. Just wondering.

#146 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-04-09 02:46 PM | Reply

142 | POSTED BY comrade JEFFRY AT 2020-04-09 02:39 PM

Opps, looks like RCade missed one.

#147 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-09 02:46 PM | Reply

jeff- i can't find it. i looked.

and also, since roc made the accusation its his responsibility to prove the stuff he typed, NOT mine.

#148 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:47 PM | Reply

#148 He may have been mistaking you for Moder8 - he bragged that he hit Goat with an abusive flag and Goat was then in jail.

#149 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:48 PM | Reply

" Asking because I've never seen him post anything like that in the Nooner."

Because i don't. Jeffj knows better, and roc is either in poor memory or simply lying.

#150 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:48 PM | Reply

"AbortedMoron
AngryDad
ChiefTutMoses
Rein
Douchegood
BingyBunny"

Snoofy is a bigger troll than any of them.

#151 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:49 PM | Reply

"right before the ban he yelled at mackris in all caps to stop spreading false medical information."

link or stink

#152 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 02:51 PM | Reply

#150 I was referring to Goatman posting family history that you are referencing to that generated your response to him, what seems to be a personal insult. Just curious.

#153 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-04-09 02:51 PM | Reply

ok.
gimme a minute, ebs.

#154 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:52 PM | Reply

drudge.com

#155 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:53 PM | Reply

#121 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

I have not been around since I posted my much earlier comment and I havent taken the time to read all the other comments. I agree ROC that this list is definitely left wing trolls and had them all in my killfile until I recently removed everyone from it. They should be treated the same.

#156 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2020-04-09 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

post #43, eberly.

#157 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:54 PM | Reply

AndreaMackris: You're posting false medical information. It is not true that if you contract the virus your chance of going to the hospital is 1 in 1,000. If that were true the death rate would be under a tenth of one percent, because some of your 1 in 1,000 would recover.

Here's one death rate chart with Italy at 9.8%, France at 4.8%, China at 4.0%, and the U.S. at 1.4%.
www.statista.com

Even if these go down as more non- or low-symptomatic cases are discovered through testing, they're not going to be below 1 in 1,000.

DO NOT POST FALSE MEDICAL CLAIMS HERE TO DOWNPLAY THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS VIRUS.
#43 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-03-26 12:23 AM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 3

#158 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 02:54 PM | Reply

It's been interesting that DR lefties have noticed that very few conservatives are even posting any more.

I've also noticed a lot less misinformation, disinformation, and trolling. Less obfuscation and deflections. It's been a better DR overall.

Well, you got your echo chamber.

Not in the slightest bit. Unlike the Republican cult of thought control. Democrats and liberals have a lot of perspectives to share.

You no longer have to spend much time having your views challenged.

We no longer spend time correcting your bullshht and dealing with your nonstop deflections and water carrying.

It's been great.

I hope this makes you happy.

It really does. Especially reading you crying about the fact you can't lie and post bullshht any more.

You got what you've been begging for.

Yep. Less bullshht. It's been wonderful.

Good job, I guess.
#32 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Or as BushJr would say, "Mission Accomplished!"

#159 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-09 02:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Democrats and liberals have a lot of perspectives to share.

Uh huh. Debating different shades of blue is hardly a lot of differing perspectives.

#160 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 02:59 PM | Reply

#159

Translation: I hate hearing opinions other than those which match my own!

Clearly you enjoyed the Attaboy Chamber.

#161 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2020-04-09 02:59 PM | Reply

It's really funny reading people complaining about other posters being put on vacations and getting banned for trolling and straight up spreading lies.

I guess they figure, if Trump does it, why can't they?

#162 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-09 03:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thanks Alex. I was even posting on that thread....

Bruthe was calling me a piece garbage and to EFF off.....I was distracted, I guess.

#163 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 03:02 PM | Reply

Monday's Nooner:

No one here is cheering for the coronavirus death toll to be high. That's not a matter of opinion. It's a simple fact. I wouldn't tolerate that kind of talk, just like I haven't the people who spread false health information or kept calling this pandemic "hysteria."

#64 | POSTED BY RCADE

#164 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 03:02 PM | Reply

Debating different shades of blue is hardly a lot of differing perspectives.
#160 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Sorry Jeff.

I'm tired of posters telling me Orange is a shade of Blue.

Perhaps instead of crying about not being able to troll or lie or deflect.

You should actually figure out how to debate the subject at hand.

#165 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-09 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AndreaMackris: You're posting false medical information. It is not true that if you contract the virus your chance of going to the hospital is 1 in 1,000. If that were true the death rate would be under a tenth of one percent, because some of your 1 in 1,000 would recover.
Here's one death rate chart with Italy at 9.8%, France at 4.8%, China at 4.0%, and the U.S. at 1.4%.
www.statista.com
Even if these go down as more non- or low-symptomatic cases are discovered through testing, they're not going to be below 1 in 1,000.
DO NOT POST FALSE MEDICAL CLAIMS HERE TO DOWNPLAY THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS VIRUS.
#43 | POSTED BY RCADE

Yeah, he was a real cornerstone of the DR with his insight and factual knowledge.

#166 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 03:05 PM | Reply

Translation: I hate hearing opinions other than those which match my own!

Seems like you need a new translator. Yours is broken.

Clearly you enjoyed the Attaboy Chamber.
#161 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Not sure where that place is. Somewhere you frequent often?

#167 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-09 03:07 PM | Reply

mackris got the boot the first time by claiming the newtown shooting was a false flag and the parents of dead kids were crisis actors.

my mother in law used to say that crap around me, which is why i remember it.

#168 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-04-09 03:07 PM | Reply

Translation: I hate hearing opinions other than those which match my own!

Do you idiots really not get that dishonesty and BS aren't the same thing as a "disagreement" do you?

#169 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 03:11 PM | Reply

Do you idiots really not get that dishonesty and BS aren't the same thing as a "disagreement" do you?

#169 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2020-04-09 03:11 PM

The problem is you define "dishonesty and BS" as anything you disagree with.

#170 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 03:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Keep lying Jeff.

It's apparently all you have.

#171 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 03:20 PM | Reply

#171 I watch you frequently fly off the handle because someone posts something you disagree with.

#172 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 03:22 PM | Reply

You are entitled to your own opinions. You are not entitled to your own facts.

It is proper to disagree with someone else's opinion by calling it "BS" or "dishonest".

Lots of people post dishonest opinions, usually for petulant, partisan reasons. But it is good practice to indicate why you think someone else's opinion is "dishonest" if you are going to label it as such.

Similarly, lots of honest opinions really are just bull****. Not to be snarky, but just read posts by Gracie or Boaz on the Nooner if you doubt it. I have no problem calling a really stupid point of view "bs".

#173 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-09 03:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

but just read posts by Gracie or Boaz on the Nooner if you doubt it.
STFU Moderhate..

I've barely posted on the nooner in the last five days.

#174 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 03:43 PM | Reply

#171 I watch you frequently fly off the handle because someone posts something you disagree with.

#172 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You're blind as a bat if you only see it as a "disagreement".

The fact that you're maintaining this line of nonsense even after I've explicitly stated it's garbage is telling and pretty sad.

#175 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 03:44 PM | Reply

The fact that you're maintaining this line of nonsense even after I've explicitly stated it's garbage is telling and pretty sad.

#175 | POSTED BY JPW

Just because you proclaim it's garbage doesn't make it so.

#176 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 03:47 PM | Reply

LOL you're basically saying you know my thoughts better than I do, Jeff.

Yeah, my saying it makes it so.

#177 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm making no claim as to knowing your thoughts.

My comments are based on observations. I read your posts and notice a pattern based upon how you react to differing opinions. On numerous occasions you've said that 95% of conservatives are schitheaps. That's a pretty strong indicator that you are unable to abide that with which you disagree.

#178 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 03:56 PM | Reply

I read your posts and notice a pattern based upon how you react to differing opinions.

Did you bother checking on the veracity of the post I was responding to? Probably not.

On numerous occasions you've said that 95% of conservatives are schitheaps. That's a pretty strong indicator that you are unable to abide that with which you disagree.

Or I've also made observations that easily lead me to that conclusion. It's not exactly hard to find evidence of such a statement.

How many of the rugged individualists are planning on cashing their gubmint checks? They shouldn't care if they lost their job(s), start pulling on those bootstraps like they claim everybody else is supposed to!

#179 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Or I've also made observations that easily lead me to that conclusion.

95%? Really??? What a bunch of -------- and it unwittingly proves my point. And your insipid caricature only cements it.

#180 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 04:05 PM | Reply

"On numerous occasions you've said that 95% of conservatives are schitheaps."

You've spent the past several weeks downplaying our President's failed response to the pandemic, right?
Right.
What kind of person would do that, JeffJ?

#181 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 04:08 PM | Reply

Does Trump have any idea how insulting it is when he proclaims that his spoiled elitist entitled princess of a daughter has created 10% of all US jobs? Just think about that for a moment. How out of touch is he?

#182 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-09 04:13 PM | Reply

Does Trump have any idea how insulting it is when he proclaims that his spoiled elitist entitled princess of a daughter has created 10% of all US jobs? Just think about that for a moment. How out of touch is he?

No different than when Hillary says she keeps hot sauce in her purse. Just think about that for a moment. How out of touch is she?

#183 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 04:17 PM | Reply

95%? Really??? What a bunch of -------- and it unwittingly proves my point. And your insipid caricature only cements it.

#180 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

LOL it's not exactly uncommon knowledge that "c-c-conservative" welfare queens have no trouble taking for themselves but trying to deny and cut when it's "those people" getting the benefit.

Should I take your response to mean you're not going to tear up your check as a protest against soshulizm?

#184 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 04:17 PM | Reply

No different than when Hillary says she keeps hot sauce in her purse. Just think about that for a moment. How out of touch is she?

#183 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Really? You do not see a substantive difference between the President claiming to all America that his elitist daughter created 10% of all US jobs and HRC making some dumb off the cuff comment about hot sauce in her purse? You really don't see it? Man. I give up. You are stupid.

#185 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-04-09 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"No different than when Hillary says she keeps hot sauce in her purse."

Really, saying you created ten million jobs is no different than saying you carry hot sauce in your purse.
You're a credit to your race, Boaz!

#186 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 04:20 PM | Reply

No different than when Hillary says she keeps hot sauce in her purse. Just think about that for a moment. How out of touch is she?
#183 | POSTED BY BOAZ

This is Boaz. Attempting to troll.

He still has a soft spot in his head for Hillary.

#187 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-09 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#186,

Nothing like a racist to bring race into a comment that had nothing to do with it.

Racist.

#188 | Posted by boaz at 2020-04-09 04:36 PM | Reply

Should I take your response to mean you're not going to tear up your check as a protest against soshulizm?

#184 | POSTED BY JPW

You just swung your purse and missed.

#189 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-04-09 04:39 PM | Reply

-Should I take your response to mean you're not going to tear up your check as a protest against soshulizm?

are you suggesting any conservative that accepts a stimulus check is a scchhitheap?

#190 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:02 PM | Reply

"Nothing like a racist to bring race into a comment that had nothing to do with it."

Boaz is proud to believe his own abject stupidity has nothing to do with the educational disparities that black Americans face.
Imagine being that brainwashed!

#191 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:14 PM | Reply

are you suggesting any conservative that accepts a stimulus check is a scchhitheap?
#190 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Anyone who is as well off as Eberly, and who keeps the check for themselves and doesn't give it to charity, is certainly a scchhitheap.

#192 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:16 PM | Reply

Was that hand or blow? The guys on Silicon Valley have optimized the process using their proprietary middle out method.

#193 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 05:20 PM | Reply

are you suggesting any conservative that accepts a stimulus check is a scchhitheap?

#190 | POSTED BY EBERLY

At the very least a hypocrite.

And a liar.

#194 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 05:22 PM | Reply

The --------- part comes in when they go right back to demanding social safety net programs get cut when they no longer need it.

Because, if you think about it, the bad part isn't them accepting money when they need help.

It's them trying to ensure other people don't get the help they need when they need it even though they've utilized such help when they needed it.

#195 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 05:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

194

Why? Conservative doesn't mean libertarian. Most conservatives supported the stimulus.

#196 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:25 PM | Reply

194

And how are any of them liars for simply receiving a stimulus check?

#197 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:26 PM | Reply

"Most conservatives supported the stimulus."

Which stimulus, the ARRA?
LOL Eberly.

#198 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:26 PM | Reply

"And how are any of them liars for simply receiving a stimulus check?"

In the "actions speak louder than words" way of being a liar, Eberly.

#199 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:27 PM | Reply

And how are any of them liars for simply receiving a stimulus check?

#197 | POSTED BY EBERLY

LOL really?

Telling everybody to pull themselves up by their bootstraps...while accepting gubmint money isn't lying?

If you can't live by your own supposed philosophy...you're a liar.

#200 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 05:33 PM | Reply

Most conservatives supported the stimulus.

#196 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Because it benefits them.

"C-c-conservatives" aren't actually against government money. They're just against people other than themselves benefiting from it.

#201 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 05:34 PM | Reply

"Telling everybody to pull themselves up by their bootstraps...while accepting gubmint money isn't lying?"

No, really. You don't understand what lying means.

#202 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:36 PM | Reply

No, really. You don't understand what lying means.

How would you describe it?

They've been telling the truth all those years when advocating for tearing down social safety nets?

#203 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 05:41 PM | Reply

-advocating for tearing down social safety nets?

Most conservatives I know support social safety nets. They aren't all the way you describe.

You can go on with this characterization if you need to.

I just wanted you to explain yourself.

You did fine.

#204 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:46 PM | Reply

"Most conservatives I know support social safety nets."

I don't believe you.
But even if I did, why would it matter, unless you're also saying the few conservatives you know speak for the whole.

And you wouldn't presume to do that, now would you, Eberly?
Not after chiding us like this:

Let them speak for themselves.
#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY
drudge.com

#205 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:56 PM | Reply

Most conservatives I know support social safety nets. They aren't all the way you describe.

So they vote for politicians that are going to gut them because...they support them?

#206 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 06:01 PM | Reply

"So they vote for politicians that are going to gut them because...they support them?"

We have SS, Medicare, welfare, Medicaid, free school lunches, etc......

Where are seeing this "gut them"?

This is boring.

Tell you what, if you lose your -------- unless you're squawking "schitheaps!!!" Well then.....you gotta do what you gotta do.

Please carry on. You obviously have some personal issues over this.

I won't pry.

#207 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 06:10 PM | Reply

We have SS, Medicare, welfare, Medicaid, free school lunches, etc......
Where are seeing this "gut them"?
#207 | POSTED BY EBERLY

One simply has to look, Eberly:

Report: Poor Families Struggling With Kansas Welfare Rules
www.kcur.org

Life After TANF in Kansas: For Most, Unsteady Work and Earnings Below Half the Poverty Line
www.cbpp.org

Why Kansas' New Welfare Rules Are Basically Unenforceable
www.governing.com

#208 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 06:13 PM | Reply

LOL, Snoofy making Eberly his female dog once again.

#209 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-10 02:57 AM | Reply

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