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Thursday, April 09, 2020

Trump has been a cheerleader for the drug hydroxychloroquine, pointing in a tweet and in person to a French study as evidence that one particular drug combination might be "one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine." But now the medical society that published that French research has issued a statement saying the study "does not meet the Society's expected standard."

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Holiday Inn Make-Believe DoktorTrump and his crew of bottom feeders should stick to what they're really good at: incompetence.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-04-09 08:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hydro..hydroxy..oxychloro...chloroquine..ineineine...with some zinc, a little sulphur, three fragments from a crystal skull, a skosh of ink from a Sharpie, and the breath of Phoenix bird should do the trick. If not, toss in a handful of adderall or meth. Both are good. And remember: What can you lose?
~ Donnie "I Take No Responsibility" Trump

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-04-09 08:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Your odds of survival are not good on a ventilator and no one is forced to take HDC. It's as if some are cheering for the virus. Obama says Hope and Change and that's supposed be inspiring and Trump says this drug is promising and he's ridiculed for giving false hope. Trump did not invent this drug it was developed by doctors.

I hope you're never gasping for air and the Dr says there's nothing he can do because the FDA won't let him try anything that hasn't been through 5 years of double blind study trials.

#3 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 09:15 AM | Reply

CDC website drops guidance, anecdotal data on Trump-backed hydroxychloroquine as COVID-19 treatment
news.yahoo.com

#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-04-09 09:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump says this drug is promising and he's ridiculed for giving false hope

#3 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020

Donald Trump is an idiot.

You disagree?

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-09 09:47 AM | Reply

What does that matter? I think everyone is an idiot except for me and thee. Sometimes I wonder about thee.

#6 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 10:06 AM | Reply

"Trump says this drug is promising and he's ridiculed for giving false hope. Trump did not invent this drug it was developed by doctors.

I hope you're never gasping for air and the Dr says there's nothing he can do because the FDA won't let him try anything that hasn't been through 5 years of double blind study trials.

#3 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2020-04-09 09:15 AM | FLAG: "

You are correct in that Trump did not develop the drug. It was developed for people suffering from other illnesses, for example, in the US Lupus and arthritis and these patients need the drug regardless of Covid-19.

By promoting the drug, Trump has caused it, not surprisingly, to be in short supply and patients who actually need it face difficulties in obtaining it:

In Europe:

www.ft.com

In the US it is listed on the FDA's own website as " currently in shortage ":

www.accessdata.fda.gov

Trump's actions have a cost which you seem either unaware of or prepared to forgive in the pursuit of "false hope."

#7 | Posted by Foreigner at 2020-04-09 10:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you think that doctors all over the world are prescribing it because of Trump? Some maybe, some because patients beg for it. But he isn't solely responsible. I recall very early on India stopped shipping it because they wanted to reserve it for their own population.

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 11:46 AM | Reply

Even Trump's CDC has scrubbed his crap from its website.

#9 | Posted by Doc_sarvis at 2020-04-09 12:19 PM | Reply

As more information comes in it may turn out that the HDC combination doesn't work there may be more effective treatments found. But keep rooting for the virus anyway.

#10 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 12:41 PM | Reply

But keep rooting for the virus anyway.

#10 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 12:41 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

Definitely the Trump slant on things.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-09 12:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I hope you're never gasping for air and the Dr says there's nothing he can do because the FDA won't let him try anything that hasn't been through 5 years of double blind study trials.

#3 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You clearly don't understand the argument.

Compassionate use has been implemented for all sorts of treatments to see what works with critically ill patients.

Nobody is saying stop doing that.

All that's being said is our supposed "leader" needs to stop selling something that isn't what he's selling it as. In other words, Donny Dealmaker needs to stop being a salesman just this one time and let things ride out.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rooting for the failure of possible treatment is rooting for the virus.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 01:05 PM | Reply

As more information comes in it may turn out that the HDC combination doesn't work there may be more effective treatments found. But keep rooting for the virus anyway.

#10 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Rooting for the virus? It doesn't matter who I "root for". The number of people the virus kills is not going to change based upon whether or not I "root" for it.

Do you know what WILL change the number of people who die? The actions and recommendations of the government. And the conservatives in our government have time and again made decisions and followed through with actions that will cost lives. That is blood that is on YOUR hands.

So, answer me this... How many people do you expect to die from using this drug? Every drug has side effects. Every choice leads to deaths. So, how many deaths should we expect? And is it less than the number of coronavirus deaths we expect to be prevented by this treatment? If not then the treatment is worse than the disease.

I am not rooting for the virus. I am not rooting against Trump. That is just all you can see through your partisan lens. I am rooting for less deaths, less suffering, less sickness. Something that conservatives like you seem to be doing their level best to advocate for and increase.

#14 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-04-09 01:05 PM | Reply

"If you're not with the snake oil salesmen, you're with the virus."

B.S.

#15 | Posted by anton at 2020-04-09 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, answer me this... How many people do you expect to die from using this drug?
Not many that weren't going to die anyway.

Every drug has side effects. Every choice leads to deaths. So, how many deaths should we expect?
Not many.

And is it less than the number of coronavirus deaths we expect to be prevented by this treatment?
Hopefully.

If not then the treatment is worse than the disease.
True.

This virus is new, when Trump made hid statements there were no standard treatments for it. There may be now.

#16 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 01:16 PM | Reply

Rooting for the failure of possible treatment is rooting for the virus.

#13 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Nobody is rooting for it's failure.

Stop lying.

#17 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:18 PM | Reply

This virus is new, when Trump made hid statements there were no standard treatments for it. There may be now.

#16 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Not really.

Some drugs have shown promise but nothing has significant data to back it. Gilead has their drug in two clinical trials for COVID patients.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 01:20 PM | Reply

It sure looks like Doc is rooting for the failure of HDC as treatment.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 01:37 PM | Reply

It sure looks like Doc is rooting for the failure of HDC as treatment.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 01

This has to be an evolving Trump campaign meme.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-09 01:42 PM | Reply

"Do you think that doctors all over the world are prescribing it because of Trump? Some maybe, some because patients beg for it. But he isn't solely responsible. I recall very early on India stopped shipping it because they wanted to reserve it for their own population.

#8 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2020-04-09 11:46 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

I suspect that the majority of doctors who prescribe the drug for good solid medical reasons do so to treat non-covid-19 patients and they are running into shortages. Any who prescribe it as the cure for covid-19 are doing so without solid research support. If you can prove otherwise, link please.

India stopped exporting the drug not because it had been proven to be a cure, but because countries were stock piling it hoping it might be a cure.

My point is quite simple. There is a price to be paid for Trump advocating a drug which is unproven ( which you seem not to want to recognize ) and that price is being paid by other users of that same drug who can no longer obtain it as easily as they would wish. I doubt Trump has taken this aspect into consideration, or if he has, has decided that it is a small price for others to pay in his re-election effort.

#21 | Posted by Foreigner at 2020-04-09 01:51 PM | Reply

As JPW has stated above, there is as yet no standard treatment but there are trials.

Are you aware of ANY treatment with solid research support?

#22 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 01:55 PM | Reply

So, answer me this... How many people do you expect to die from using this drug?
Not many that weren't going to die anyway.

Every drug has side effects. Every choice leads to deaths. So, how many deaths should we expect?
Not many.

And is it less than the number of coronavirus deaths we expect to be prevented by this treatment?
Hopefully.

If not then the treatment is worse than the disease.
True.

This virus is new, when Trump made hid statements there were no standard treatments for it. There may be now.

#16 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Typical conservative with a science-and-fact-free response.

You can rely on hope if you want. I much prefer to rely on science.

And I don't care if there are no standard treatments. "Standard treatments" do no good if they have worse outcomes than the condition they are supposed to treat. I want treatments that work. You seem to be supporting "any" treatment. Just doing something for the sake of doing something. Regardless of whether it is effective.

Though, if you don't believe in science, I guess all you have left is to try random things and "hope" that they do some good?

Really pathetic.

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-04-09 02:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Are you aware of ANY treatment with solid research support?

#22 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2020-04-09 01:55 PM | FLAG: "

No - and that's my point.

It is not appropriate to endanger existing ill people by causing an unnecessary run on the drugs they require. Should this drug or any other prove to be the real deal, then decisions on supply should be made by those with appropriate expertise, balancing existing needs against developing needs. Such reasoned decision making should not be short circuited by a grand standing President.

#24 | Posted by Foreigner at 2020-04-09 02:17 PM | Reply

Rooting for the failure of possible treatment is rooting for the virus.
#13 | POSTED BYVISITOR_

Trump is the biggest cheerleader in the world for the virus.

And it's not even close. Although Bolsonaro is certainly stealing his dance moves.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 03:33 PM | Reply

Are you aware of ANY treatment with solid research support?
#22 | POSTED BY VISITOR

No, but I'm aware of testing.
Trump didn't order testing because he's rooting for the virus.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 03:34 PM | Reply

#3 | Posted by visitor_

Let's not forget Trump owns a stake in at least one manufacturer of that particular drug...

#27 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-09 03:43 PM | Reply

I read that the stake was less than 100 dollars, was that a joke?

#28 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 03:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#28 | Posted by visitor_

Nobody knows what the stake is. "It could be" as in 1 share cost that. Do you think Donald Trump bought 1 share?

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-09 04:01 PM | Reply

GTBRITISHSKULL

You asked me some questions that no one knows the answer to.

YOU: And is it less than the number of coronavirus deaths we expect to be prevented by this treatment?
ME: Hopefully.

There is a reason that drugs are tested. Scientist hope they will be more beneficial than harmful. No one knows ahead of time. If they could know why would they need to test?

Sometimes medical science involves trying various things that we don't know will work. Do you think that scientist don't hope that their trials will be successful? And do you really think that HDC was just tried at random?

Here's vial of something, let's try that! Foolish.

With as quickly has this virus spreads, with no known treatment, treatments are going to tried without knowing for certain that they will work.

Your comments make believe you are an ignorant bigot, but hopefully I am wrong.

#30 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 04:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I read that the stake was less than 100 dollars, was that a joke?
#28 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

You are pretending you have transparency into Trump's finances, was that a joke?

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump brand fish tank cleaner will be a nice addition to Trump steaks and Trump vodka and the still to this day Made In China Trump menswear collection.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:35 PM | Reply

It sure looks like Doc is rooting for the failure of HDC as treatment.
#19 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2020-04-09 01:37 PM | FLAG: MORON

I have a possible cure for what ails you: steer clear of Faux Noos for a month and check back in.

#33 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-04-09 06:31 PM | Reply

Trump did not invent this drug it was developed by doctors.

#3 | Posted by visitor

Perhaps not, but he and his family do hold investments in one of the world's largest producers of hydroxychloroquine, as does several of the Mar-a-Lago crowd as well as at least one of Trump's Cabinet members.

OCU

#34 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-04-09 06:40 PM | Reply

#19 Ignoring science is what got the US in the worst pandemic response on Earth. But wing dings never seem to learn. Wait for the data, don't listen to fraudsters.

#35 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-09 06:41 PM | Reply

If you have money in an index fund you may too.

www.marketwatch.com

#36 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-09 06:47 PM | Reply

rooting for people who are -------- out of the way and off of media outlets is not rooting for the virus. A few people seem to be confused about that.

#37 | Posted by arthurmann at 2020-04-09 11:05 PM | Reply

This VISITOR TROLL must be some sort of MAGA nutcase. A month ago the people like you told us that it was all a hoax. Now, we have again do what you say? Why do you not just go $%^& yourself.

#38 | Posted by tknees at 2020-04-10 02:35 PM | Reply

Posted by visitor_

Boy's dumber'n a bag 'a hammers...

Why do you boneheads even bother?

That bored?

#39 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-04-11 10:45 AM | Reply

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