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Thursday, April 09, 2020

Unemployment claims remained high last week at 6.6 million, the Labor Department reported, as massive job losses continued to pile up from the coronavirus pandemic.

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Wouldn't it be grand if the United States had a president to deal with this?

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-04-09 10:14 AM | Reply

15 cases. Soon to be zero!

It will blow over.

Like magic.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 10:26 AM | Reply

ZED

Let's be more specific. Wouldn't it be grand if the United States had Barack Obama as president?

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-04-09 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This wipes out all of the jobs that Ivanka has created.

#4 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-04-09 10:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 6 | Newsworthy 1

The racist orange turd is like Dubya and Hoover on steroids.

#5 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-04-09 11:02 AM | Reply

Wouldn't it be grand if the United States had Barack Obama as president?
#3 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

Wouldn't it be grand if the United States had Barack Obama as vice president?

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 11:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It has nothing to do with the run away pandemic due to poor planning.

People are exhausted by all the constant winning. They're staying home because they're winning so much, it makes them sick.

#7 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-04-09 11:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 4

On the positive side all of these numbers should be much better next week. With it being April we can all pack the churches for Easter and open up the country again since the virus has miraculously gone away.

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-04-09 11:05 AM | Reply

Wouldn't it be grand if the United States had Barack Obama as vice president?

#6 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Joe could make Obama Vice President. And then Joe could do the proper thing.. and die.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-04-09 11:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I alone can fix it."

#10 | Posted by anton at 2020-04-09 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And then Joe could do the proper thing.. and die.

#9 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Oh come on now. Joe doesn't have to die.

We have precedence.

George Bush didn't have to die for Dick Cheney to become President.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 11:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 2

And then Joe could do the proper thing.. and die.

#9 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

I know you are scared and angry. We all are!

But I kinda like Joe. I say we keep him AND Obama! They were a good team. And the rest of the candidates too. There are jobs for all of them. And think of how it will irk the deplorables! Besides when he does his funny gaffes routine it gives the deplorables something on which to focus their hateful minds . It will keep the Eye of Sauron and the evils of Mordor off of Obama so maybe he could get things done around here.

Problem is I don't think Obama wants the job. I only wish he did.

It's a great dream though.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 11:33 AM | Reply

-I know you are scared and angry. We all are!

No, we aren't. Obviously you are, and it's big of you to admit it.

Don't attach your fear and anger to others. Let them speak for themselves.

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 11:38 AM | Reply

And then Joe could do the proper thing.. and die.

#9 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

I know you are scared and angry. We all are!

#12 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Don't attach your fear and anger to others. Let them speak for themselves.

#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Donner's post was in response to a post cheerleading a major politician dying in office because of the political benefit it would theoretically provide. And your post makes it seem like you are defending that behavior/rhetoric. Is that what you intend?

I very much don't want Trump to be President. But I would not advocate for his death. And I do not support anyone who would. Even in jest.

And I would much prefer to assume it is an emotional reaction prompted by the current stressors in the world instead of assuming that they are just a despicable person who think people dying for their political gain is an acceptable life philosophy. Which reason should I assign to you? Or is there another one you prefer?

#14 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-04-09 11:54 AM | Reply

-And your post makes it seem like you are defending that behavior/rhetoric. Is that what you intend?

no.

My post was exactly what it says....not everyone is scared and angry. I'm wasn't commenting on anything else.

#15 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 11:59 AM | Reply

Joe could make Obama Vice President. And then Joe could do the proper thing.. and die.

Threats to a Presidential candidate or President aside

Obama cannot be Vice President as he has already had 2 terms as President.

#16 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2020-04-09 12:17 PM | Reply

-Threats to a Presidential candidate or President aside

It wasn't a threat.....poor taste? yes.

-Obama cannot be Vice President as he has already had 2 terms as President.

If not mistaken, the constitution only says one cannot be "elected" a 3rd term. It doesn't say they couldn't serve as president.

But Obama wouldn't do this, IMO. I'm cool with it but let's wait until we see who Biden chooses.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 12:22 PM | Reply

Eberly is so compartmentalized he makes me think of Bill Clinton. And Bill Clinton was a tiresome ass. All logical fallacies and loop the loop reasoning. Slippery and unconvincing all at the same time. The perfect troll.NOT.
Maybe he will grow up and argue in good faith but that's probably hoping for too much.
He thinks it's clever and subtle,to be so stupid but it's really just STUPID.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-04-09 12:37 PM | Reply

What percent of those jobs are actually 'lost' as opposed to those people just temporarily furloughed until their employer reopens; big difference.

#19 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-04-09 12:48 PM | Reply

I am betting more than 16 million. How many in places like Florida have been unable to report it yet?

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-09 12:49 PM | Reply

What percent of those jobs are actually 'lost' as opposed to those people just temporarily furloughed until their employer reopens; big difference.

#19 | POSTED BY MSGT

While true we really won't know until things can reopen.

In the end it will depend on how many businesses are able to reopen and hire people back.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-09 12:55 PM | Reply

My post was exactly what it says....not everyone is scared and angry. I'm wasn't commenting on anything else.

#15 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Well... in the future you might want to read the context before you attack someone? Cherry picking a single sentence from a post and attacking someone over it is a very trollish thing to do.

Just sayin.

#22 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-04-09 01:08 PM | Reply

I very much don't want Trump to be President. But I would not advocate for his death.

#14 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

Me either! That would make Pence the POTUS, for Gawd's sake!

#23 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-04-09 01:08 PM | Reply

Eberly: It seems there is a loophole in the Constitution that would "allow" Obama to be the Vice Presidential Candidate and could win.
Since "loopholes" are the Trump go to when being "Presidential" there should be no Constitutional crisis, right?
Moscow Mitch also likes to invent loopholes (Supreme Court Nominations) so no problem there also. Right?

#24 | Posted by randomcanyon at 2020-04-09 01:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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I have no idea what you're talking about.

But don't address me anymore unless you first tell me who you used to be here.

-Well... in the future you might want to read the context before you attack someone?

Well...in the future you might want to stop lying. I didn't attack anybody and I completely understood the context.

-Cherry picking a single sentence from a post and attacking someone over it is a very trollish thing to do.

again, stop lying...I didn't attack anybody.

I'll give you the same advice I gave Donner.....let him speak for himself.

#25 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 01:43 PM | Reply

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no crisis for me. I wouldn't complain about it if Obama ended up on Biden's ticket.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 01:44 PM | Reply

No Constitutional scholar here but still pretty sure the only way Obama can serve again is if we repeal the 22nd Amendment and I seriously doubt that is going to happen. Obama's role now is to do exactly what he is doing.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-09 01:50 PM | Reply

HOLY ----!

That's a million more jobs than Ivanka created!

#28 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-04-09 02:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

" I wouldn't complain about it if Obama ended up on Biden's ticket."

Me either but I just don't think he can be in line for the Presidency after he has served 2 terms.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-09 02:14 PM | Reply

For reference: 16.6 million new jobless claims amounts to a loss of 11% of all jobs that existed in the US when the March jobs report data was gathered.

#30 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-04-09 02:16 PM | Reply

What percent of those jobs are actually 'lost' as opposed to those people just temporarily furloughed until their employer reopens; big difference.

#19 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2020-04-09 12:48 PM | FLAG:

All of that depends on the financial wellbeing of their company. Some wont have the capital to crank up without some sort of assistance.

#32 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-04-09 02:21 PM | Reply

not everyone is scared and angry.
#15 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Let them speak for themselves.
#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Something happened to Eberly, and it's not good.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 03:12 PM | Reply

not everyone is scared and angry.

Anyone who is not scared about where the economy is going is not paying enough attention. There are no guarantees we can rubber-band our way back to a healthy economy with good employment when this is over. The Depression obliterated the job prospects of millions of working-age Americans for over a decade.

#35 | Posted by rcade at 2020-04-09 03:43 PM | Reply

#35 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-04-09 03:43 PM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY -- Exactly, and I know many 'horror' stories my parents and grandparents told me about the Depression.

#36 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-04-09 04:03 PM | Reply

-Anyone who is not scared about where the economy is going is not paying enough attention.

Of course there is concern over this uncertainty.

-The Depression obliterated the job prospects of millions of working-age Americans for over a decade.

I'm not concerned that's going to happen.

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 04:07 PM | Reply

"I'm not concerned that's going to happen."

In what exactly is your lack of concern grounded, Eberly?
Sounds like wishful thinking to me.
If there's more, let's hear it.

Surely you're already aware that most job growth over the past several years has been at the low end of the wage scale.
In other words, the job prospects already weren't good. They weren't obliterated, but they weren't good.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 04:11 PM | Reply

Considering Ivanka personally created 15 million jobs. We're only at a loss of one million.

I'm sure once COVID 19 gets to zero, like Trump promised. She can create another 15 million jobs.

Head line should read. Ivanka Trump to save America.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-04-09 04:18 PM | Reply

What percent of those jobs are actually 'lost' as opposed to those people just temporarily furloughed until their employer reopens; big difference.

#19 | POSTED BY MSGT

As others have said, that is an unknown. If anyone is thinking that one day stay at home orders will be lifted and everyone will just go back to work then you they are likely mistaken.
The world has changed and many of those changes may be long lasting. Some industry analysts have predicted as much as 75% of independently owned restaurants may fail due to the virus. A JP Morgan study from a few years back found only half of small businesses had enough cash reserves to survive for a full month without revenue. The report also showed that the businesses best positions for such a shutdown tended to be the types that are less affected by a pandemic such as healthcare, hightech and professional services.
It's not just the current loss of revenue that's hitting them hard. Supply chains and ability to get product to market may see long term disruptions. Employee and consumer expectations/behaviors may be experiencing long term modifications which could reshape the business landscape.

#40 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-04-09 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ivanka Trump to save America.

Kushner has already saved the rest of the world so he had to leave her something...

#41 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-04-09 04:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

not everyone is scared and angry.
#15 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Let them speak for themselves.
#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Something happened to Eberly, and it's not good.

#33 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Naw, he's always been his own very special brand of retarded, and blissfully self unaware.

#42 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-09 05:29 PM | Reply

Don't attach your fear and anger to others. Let them speak for themselves.

#13 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Oops. Not everyone. Everyone except eberly. Please don't swing yer purse at me!

People are scared. People are angry. That's what people are saying!

LOL

Just not Beverly. Not need to kill off poor Joe tho. We kinda like old No Malarky Joe. (eberly not included).

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 05:39 PM | Reply

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Make the group as large as you need so as to not feel like a -----.

If I'm the only one here not angry and scared, then so be it.

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:43 PM | Reply

Cherry picking a single sentence from a post and attacking someone over it is a very trollish thing to do.

Just sayin.

#22 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

It's kinda his thing. He is not as bad as some. EBERLY likes to take swings at me. Sometimes it seems like a deflection tactic tho. I did bring up a very sore subject and probably a Republicans worst nightmare.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 05:46 PM | Reply

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Telling you that not everybody is angry and afraid is taking a swing at you?

Is there anyone here who's that thin skinned or are you in first place?

#48 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 05:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If I'm the only one here not angry and scared, then so be it.
#46 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Eberly is proud of not having emotions now.
Seriously, what happened to this guy?
???

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 05:58 PM | Reply

I'm not concerned that's going to happen.

Unless you can click your heels together and stop it, I can't see your lack of concern as a compelling argument for a rebound.

#50 | Posted by rcade at 2020-04-09 06:05 PM | Reply

+1 "We're not in Kansas anymore" allusion.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 06:07 PM | Reply

50

Ok, so you're convinced we are facing another Great Depression and nothing is stopping it.

Fair enough.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 06:12 PM | Reply

Telling you that not everybody is angry and afraid is taking a swing at you?

#48 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Well it kinda is. Taking what I said and twisting it that way to make like what I said was absolute is like taking a swing. You know it don't hurt tho right?

My point was don't hurt Joe! You can swing at me all ya want. If it makes you feel better. I won't let you hurt yourself too much.

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 06:26 PM | Reply

Ok, so you're convinced we are facing another Great Depression and nothing is stopping it.

I never said I was convinced of that.

If someone were to say "everyone is concerned they or someone they love will die from coronavirus" and you said "speak for yourself not everyone feels that way," it would be technically true. The world is full of people. Some of them lick airplane toilet seats to whore for Instagram likes. So not everyone is concerned.

But do the seat-licking twerps make the statement "everyone is concerned they or someone they love will die from coronavirus" untrue? No. It is a sentiment so widely true that it's worth expressing as an attempt to show common ground between people.

"I know you are scared and angry. We all are!" is the same kind of statement.

Instead of finding common ground, you're engaging in pedantry. You haven't even offered a reason people shouldn't be scared about the future of the economy.

#54 | Posted by rcade at 2020-04-09 06:32 PM | Reply

"You haven't even offered a reason people shouldn't be scared about the future of the economy."

Nobody asked.

I think we had to make scary predictions about this virus to get people's attention. As a result, markets and businesses are harmed.

But it was necessary, IMO.

But it's being taken seriously and I believe we'll get through this before we impose a depression onto ourselves.

And I believe many people feel the same way.

"Well it kinda is. Taking what I said and twisting it that way to make like what I said was absolute is like taking a swing. You know it don't hurt tho right?"

Don't ever call anybody thin skinned ever again, tough guy.

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 06:50 PM | Reply

"Instead of finding common ground, you're engaging in pedantry."

LOL. That's rich.

#56 | Posted by eberly at 2020-04-09 06:51 PM | Reply

"But it's being taken seriously"
It is? When it comes to taking it seriously, it sure seems like the United States is not taking it nearly as seriously as Philippines, Malaysia, and even India.

"and I believe we'll get through this before we impose a depression onto ourselves."
This comes off as a belief rooted in hope more than a belief rooted in mathematics or economics.

"And I believe many people feel the same way."
I believe those people are the ones who keep spreading the disease for months to come, especially in the fall, by thinking it's safe to go back to normal while the disease lingers on.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 07:00 PM | Reply

But it's being taken seriously and I believe we'll get through this before we impose a depression onto ourselves.

We're not doing the things necessary to return to economic normalcy, like aggressive testing and widespread antibody testing. Until we do I'm not going to presume it'll all work out. Things don't always work out. Things can go sideways.

It doesn't help that the president sees himself as a "cheerleader" instead of somebody capable of delivering bad news when the situation requires it.

#58 | Posted by rcade at 2020-04-09 07:06 PM | Reply

This virus has really changed the world.
Denial is now a river that flows through Kansas!

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-09 07:07 PM | Reply

"But it's being taken seriously and I believe we'll get through this before we impose a depression onto ourselves."

It's not forever. See "1918 pandemic".

The economy recovers. But it's a new normal. History does not repeat itself. But but it does rhyme.

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 07:43 PM | Reply

It doesn't help that the president sees himself as a "cheerleader" instead of somebody capable of delivering bad news when the situation requires it.

#58 | POSTED BY RCADE

And he is one fugly cheerleader.

I much prefer the President Cuomo update show.

Cuomo knows how to take charge AND do a damn good power point presentation!

I'd follow that dude into the fray.

Semper Fi

#61 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-09 07:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Help me out here...who was it now, for three and a half years, saying over and over that his biggest accomplishments were the unemployment rate and the stock market?
Now he has zero accomplishments.

#62 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-04-09 08:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#35 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2020-04-09 03:43 PM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY -- Exactly, and I know many 'horror' stories my parents and grandparents told me about the Depression.

#36 | POSTED BY MSGT AT 2020-04-09 04:03 PM | FLAG:

Roger that! As well as my depression era grandparents told me. The best one was trading a chicken for 2 shotgun shells - in Guydan, Louisiana.

#63 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2020-04-09 08:48 PM | Reply

Hey Trumpites! Are we winning yet?!

#64 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-04-09 09:40 PM | Reply

Depends on the meaning of "we."

Does it mean our "we?" . . . Or does it mean Trump's "we?"

Without proper oversight, there's $2 Trillion about to find a way into the pockets of Trump's "we" side of the ledger.

#65 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-04-10 03:02 AM | Reply

Help me out here...who was it now, for three and a half years, saying over and over that his biggest accomplishments were the unemployment rate and the stock market?
Now he has zero accomplishments.

#62 | POSTED BY E1G1

A truth bomb! Ouch that's going to leave a mark on the foreheads of the terminally stupid trumphumpers. Expect a lot of red faces, foot stomping, and them talking a lot about how huge their pickup truck is.

#66 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2020-04-10 03:23 AM | Reply

Now he has zero accomplishments.
#62 | POSTED BY E1G1

He'll still have the stock market (which he calls the "economy") if that $2 Trillion get's waylayed into the pockets of Trump's wealthy political donors . . . which is his intent.

Mitch McConnell is trying to squeeze another $2 Billion out of Congress to cover Trump's tracks (short term) but Pelosi onto his tricks.

#67 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-04-10 04:15 AM | Reply

"how huge their pickup truck is."

How cheap they got the pickup because the previous owner died.

For millions of Americans, this is the best chance of their life to do as well as their parents.
By having their parents die and getting their house and their stuff for free.

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-10 04:47 AM | Reply

"By having their parents die and getting their house and their stuff for free.

That's gross, SNOOFY

Trump's biggest problem right now is the unemployment numbers. That was his only other path to re-election.

Right now they look like Trump's re-election death-knell. Why do you think he's practically screaming for the economy to get open for business NOW. Trump doesn't care how many more people he kills . . . he just cares about running out of time to get the unemployment numbers down.

Panic is setting in.

#69 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-04-10 06:49 AM | Reply

Asked what he'd say to newly unemployed Americans who fear the economy won't just bounce back, Trump says, "Well I think the economy is going to do very well. Now that's just my feeling. It's a strong feeling. I've had good, proper feelings about a lot of things over the years."

twitter.com

#70 | Posted by rcade at 2020-04-10 10:18 AM | Reply

"Well I think the economy is going to do very well." ~~ Donald J.

Don't forget. Trump thinks the stock market is the same thing as the economy.

#71 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-04-10 11:00 AM | Reply

#63 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS AT 2020-04-09 08:48 PM | FLAG: The one of many that originally shocked me [was ten at time of talk] was women sitting on the sidewalk and offering themselves for a nickel [this was in Pennsylvania]!

To allow a comparison to today's value:

What was $1.00 in 1930 worth in today's money? Adjusted for inflation, $1.00 in 1930 is equal to $14.94 in 2020.

#72 | Posted by MSgt at 2020-04-10 02:14 PM | Reply

Oh, so they were offering themselves for seventy-five cents.

Is that how your momma made you?

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-10 04:12 PM | Reply

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