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Monday, April 27, 2020

Tyson Foods, one of the U.S.'s biggest meat processors, didn't mince words in a full page New York Times spread that ran Sunday, in which they warned, "the food supply chain is breaking." "As pork, beef and chicken plants are being forced to close, even for short periods of time, millions of pounds of meat will disappear from the supply chain," John Tyson, Chairman of the Board of Tyson Foods, wrote in a letter published as an advertisement. "As a result, there will be limited supply of our products available in grocery stores until we are able to reopen our facilities that are currently closed."

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This is a scary development of our Coronavirus Pandemic.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2020-04-27 09:05 AM | Reply

But not unexpected Danni.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-27 09:38 AM | Reply

This is a scary development of our Coronavirus Pandemic.

#1 | POSTED BY DANNI

Predictable outcome of decades of industry consolidation and business process streamlining designed designed to cutout all unnecessary expense. Worked well...until it didn't.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-04-27 11:03 AM | Reply

We have been trying out hummus and split pea soup recipes so we can have high protein meals without meat. We are loving family cooking together.

#4 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-27 11:08 AM | Reply

My favorite is Soylent Red, but that's been hard to get lately. I'm developing a taste for Soylent Green. I hope the lock down lasts forever because I can't see any negative consequences so far.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-27 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"As pork, beef and chicken plants are being forced to close, even for short periods of time, millions of pounds of meat will disappear from the supply chain"

"forced to close"... Would they rather force their workers to continue to get sick and die, at their wage slave jobs? Probably.

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-04-27 11:59 AM | Reply

#6 They did force the workers to work until they got sick and many died. That is the only reason the plants are closed.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2020-04-27 12:19 PM | Reply

Many died, how many?

#8 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-04-27 12:33 PM | Reply

Almost half of Black Hawk County, Iowa's Covid-19 cases are connected to the plant, according to the county health department. As of Tuesday, there were 182 cases linked to the plant. Wednesday, the county reported 379 total cases. www.cnn.com

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"My favorite is Soylent Red, but that's been hard to get lately."

No worries. There are plenty of rich people.

Very fatty. Good flavor. Excellent grilled.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-27 12:51 PM | Reply

Food chain is breaking because of irresponsible employers based on what I have read. Plenty of people on unemployment. They should just start hiring. From what I hear these are good paying jobs American's want. Most employees are also immigrants in these facilities too. Legal or otherwise - something to keep in mind.

#11 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-04-27 12:57 PM | Reply

Worked well...until it didn't.

#3 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

That's pretty much the take home lesson of our entire economy.

It has zero reserves or flexibility to deal with adversity.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2020-04-27 01:57 PM | Reply

That's pretty much the take home lesson of our entire economy.
It has zero reserves or flexibility to deal with adversity.
#12 | POSTED BY JPW

That's what the bailouts are for.
That's the function of government, in a Capitalist society.
To bail out and subsidize corporations, with taxpayer dollars.

Look up "Horse and Sparrow."

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 01:59 PM | Reply

Welcome to the "just-in-time" economy. It may have been a reasonable approach to efficiency in industrial settings like automobile manufacturing. It saves money on maintaining inventories.

But that means nobody is stockpiling anything (like ventilators or PPE) just in case they are needed urgently.

But we have plenty of money to maintain a nuclear arsenal that we will never use. Because if we ever have to use it, it's all over anyway.

We also have an army to protect the "homeland" that no country could ever successfully invade and occupy.

So investing in readiness is good when planning to kill, but not when planning to save lives. Only when it makes money for the MIC.

#14 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-04-27 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's what the bailouts are for.
That's the function of government, in a Capitalist society.

Central planning ain't capitalism. Never has been, never will be.

#15 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-04-27 04:56 PM | Reply

Central planning ain't capitalism. Never has been, never will be.

#15 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

Then why are the "capitalists" proposing it?

#16 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-04-27 06:30 PM | Reply

Apparently, capitalism, like the Russia thing, and the Ukranian thing, and the coronavirus thing is a hoax.

#17 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-04-27 06:32 PM | Reply

"Central planning ain't capitalism"

Capitalism only works because of limited liability.

Limited liability is enforced by the government. So are patents and copyrights, and since 1996 copyrights are enforced via the criminal code.

There's your planning, bro.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 06:38 PM | Reply

SNOOFY: That's what the bailouts are for.
That's the function of government, in a Capitalist society.

BEN: Central planning ain't capitalism

^
But the bailouts do happen.

GM, FNMA and Freddie Mac, AIG, even Chrysler in the 80s. Airlines after 9/11. S&Ls under King George The First. Every Superfund site. Every pension serviced by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation.

I guess you're one of those charlatans who'd argue the USSR wasn't real Capitalism.

Because here you are arguing bailouts aren't real Capitalism.

Stay in online school, kids!

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 07:07 PM | Reply

"But that means nobody is stockpiling anything (like ventilators or PPE) just in case they are needed urgently."

So what is the exact person-to-respirator ratio?

It's easy to look at this and say the government should have been ready. But it's kind of like saying the government should stockpile boats in case of a flood. Or that Florida should stockpile winter jackets in case of a cold snap. Or MREs in case of a famine.

And a better question would be, why didn't you stockpile these items?

#20 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-28 01:52 PM | Reply

"It's easy to look at this and say the government should have been ready."

Is it easy to look at this and say Tyson Foods should have been ready?

Or was the government supposed to be ready to swoop in and protect Tyson Foods?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 02:03 PM | Reply

"But it's kind of like saying the government should stockpile boats in case of a flood."

It's kind of like saying the government should stockpile military equipment and personnel in case of a war.

Should the government actually do that or not?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 02:05 PM | Reply

"Is it easy to look at this and say Tyson Foods should have been ready?"

Ready for what? Sick people?

Did Tyson close down the plant, or did the government tell them to shut down?

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-28 02:13 PM | Reply

"It's kind of like saying the government should stockpile military equipment and personnel in case of a war."

And people. Which is why preppers stockpile guns, ammunition, medicine, and food.

It's also why people like you will be the first to starve if the supply chains don't recover. You have no guns. No Ammo. Maybe some medicinal marijuana. And no food. And even if you did, it's not like you could stop those with the guns from taking it from you.

Maybe you should have been a little more prepared for times like these.

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-28 02:15 PM | Reply

"Did Tyson close down the plant, or did the government tell them to shut down?"

The government told them to close down the plant.

Do you think the government shouldn't be allowed to tell them to close down the plant, is that the issue for you?
The health of the workers takes a back seat to the need for Tyson to run a plant that spreads sickness among their workers?

They can always just go get another job, right?
The workers are just as disposable as the chickens, right?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 02:17 PM | Reply

"It's also why people like you will be the first to starve if the supply chains don't recover. You have no guns. No Ammo."

I'm supposed to use my guns and ammo to take food from people who have it, at gunpoint then?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 02:20 PM | Reply

"Is it easy to look at this and say Tyson Foods should have been ready?"
Ready for what? Sick people?

Well, you're the one who said
"It's easy to look at this and say the government should have been ready."
Ready for what, sick people?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 02:21 PM | Reply

#26 | Posted by snoofy, Sorry to tell you this, but that is what happens every time throughout history. As Richard Prier said about America, "You can get anything you want or need, if you have money, or a gun".

#28 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-04-28 02:52 PM | Reply

As Richard Prier said about America, "You can get anything you want or need, if you have money, or a gun"
#28 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

And that's what you spent 22 years disabling yourself to defend, huh?
In that case, I do not thank you for your service.
I spit on it.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 03:00 PM | Reply

#29 | Posted by snoofy Do not be so obtuse, that is why all governments demand a monopoly on violence. At this moment because of the PATRIOT Act, if you have a cash of food or a truck patch that supplies you and your family with food, the men with guns who are the essence of governmental power, can cease it without compensation. Just like the gangs of savages that I witnessed in the third world. "Political power come from the mouth of a gun" Mao. The equation changes significantly when everyone is armed. Note, in Iraq, every male was allowed an AK and 60 rounds of ammo by us.

#30 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-04-28 03:19 PM | Reply

"Do not be so obtuse, that is why all governments demand a monopoly on violence."

So you don't support the police, then?
You don't think the police should have a monopoly on violence?

"At this moment because of the PATRIOT Act, if you have a cash of food or a truck patch that supplies you and your family with food, the men with guns who are the essence of governmental power, can cease it without compensation"

You must be a huge fan of that, since you wore its uniform for 22 years and 80% disabled yourself for it.

"Just like the gangs of savages that I witnessed in the third world."

My point exactly.

"The equation changes significantly when everyone is armed. "

It does? What happened to "At this moment because of the PATRIOT Act, if you have a cash of food or a truck patch that supplies you and your family with food, the men with guns who are the essence of governmental power, can cease it without compensation"

You need to get those things straightened out.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Note, in Iraq, every male was allowed an AK and 60 rounds of ammo by us."

Oh, so what you were really doing over there was fighting to preserve the patriarchy and the oppression of Muslim women by Muslim men.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 03:30 PM | Reply

The rrrrrrriiiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt has been hoarding Campbell's soup and bags of rice and bullets and all that for such an event.

That shht lasted 2 weeks before they snapped last time, and the shelves were more or less full, sans some shht paper maybe.

I can't wait to see the meltdown when the rugged individualists who can survive such an event for 18 months to 2 years can't buy pieces of dead animals down there at the Kroger, just like the mountain men did.

#33 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-04-28 03:56 PM | Reply

"forced to close"... Would they rather force their workers to continue to get sick and die, at their wage slave jobs? Probably.
#6 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT AT 2020-04-27 11:59 AM | REPLY

oh but wait! The Dotard is going to "force" plants to stay open!
www.cnn.com
(how can one force plants to stay open when there won't be enough healthy workers?)

#34 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-04-28 03:59 PM | Reply

#32 | Posted by snoofy, Your argument is with Islam. We were not out to convert them. I realized how savage Islam was the first day outside the wire. A man was beating a woman in the middle of the street with a broom stick. She was curled up in a fetal possession. I wanted to stop him, but was stopped by our interpreter, "It is hallil",(clean, acceptable).
#31 | Posted by snoofy, Police are supposed to be constrained by the limits of the law. We will agree most are lawful, and some are not. Body cams and cell phones have become the most useful tool ensuring the prosecution of those who don't.
What would remove the PATRIOT Acts less savory provisions is the refusal of those given the orders to cease the food of others to refuse to carry them out. But I note what happened in the Ukraine in the famine times and what happened in China during the Great Leap Forward. If you put an Uniform on a thug, he is still a thug. We should be careful who we issue a badge and a gun to.

#35 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-04-28 04:10 PM | Reply

"#31 | Posted by snoofy, Police are supposed to be constrained by the limits of the law."

That's not saying much. Nazis were constrained by the limits of the law too.

It's not the constraint.

It's the laws and policies they're asked to enforce. Stop and Frisk is one example. Civil forfeiture is another.

"We should be careful who we issue a badge and a gun to."

On that we agree.
We should also be mindful of what we train them to do.
What we train them to do is be ever mindful of the fact that it's better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
It's pretty obvious what happens next when you tell that to a thug.
The pigs shooting a suspect is, as you put it, just as halal as that man beating his wife in the street.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-28 04:25 PM | Reply

#36 | Posted by snoofy, So you are for gun control? You also believe that firearms should be confiscated? The cognitive dissidence going on in your mind must be close to a riot. There are those with authoritarian personalities. They love power over others. It does not matter what their political orientation is. The left is even more guilty of putting those in possessions of power or demonstrating the power of a mob than the right. You demonstrated your orientation by referring to LEOs as pigs. How dare they tell you what to do. First rule in survival, Don't argue with a gun or the individual holding it. If they say stop, don't run and don't fight. The odds are not good at all.

#37 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-04-29 08:57 AM | Reply

"Do you think the government shouldn't be allowed to tell them to close down the plant, is that the issue for you? The health of the workers takes a back seat to the need for Tyson to run a plant that spreads sickness among their workers?"

No, the government shouldn't tell people they can't go to work, If the workers choose not to-different story. But when an employer wants to hire and employee, and that employee is willing to work, denying them the ability to do so is an authoritarian measure and a sure sign of a police state.

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-29 12:51 PM | Reply

"I'm supposed to use my guns and ammo to take food from people who have it, at gunpoint then?"

If you do have guns and ammo, you have a decent shot at defending yourself. Otherwise, you're just storing food for someone who came to the party better prepared than yourself.

Not to mention that guns are great for hunting game.

#39 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-29 12:52 PM | Reply

"So you don't support the police, then? You don't think the police should have a monopoly on violence?"

They do. And they will.

And they will most likely to be some of the first to confiscate your food if the shelves end up going empty.

#40 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-29 12:54 PM | Reply

#40 | Posted by madbomber As a retired cop told me, "The moment a law enforcement officer decides to break the law, he is no longer a cop, he is a criminal". A lot of people are issued a gun and a badge, most who serve never use a firearm in their entire carrier. Most are never even accused of a violation. The temptations are there everyday, letting a hooker or a pimp slide for a gratis piece of trim. Taking a bribe from a gangster for ignoring what ever the gangster is doing. Not reporting or pursuing stupid crap, kids tagging a building, truancy, public drunkenness, under age drinking, loitering, minor traffic offenses, but those little offenses are indicators. Most felony warrants are apprehended by simple traffic stops. Most serious offenders start with petty crimes, while they are in their teens.

#41 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-04-29 03:01 PM | Reply

And they will most likely to be some of the first to confiscate your food if the shelves end up going empty.
#40 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

And you think your guns will protect you from that?
Or is your plan to be the one doing the confiscating, G-Man?

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-29 04:02 PM | Reply

#42 | Posted by snoofy You are referring to a SHTF situation, don't worry about government power in that environment. Worry about growing enough food to survive the winter, just like your great-grandparents did. Oh, you have no idea how to do that. Long pork is food for a future famine. Those with their hand out begging will be first on the menu.

#43 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-04-29 08:23 PM | Reply

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