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Tuesday, April 28, 2020

The Pentagon has officially released three short videos showing "unidentified aerial phenomena" that had previously been released by a private company. The videos show what appear to be unidentified flying objects rapidly moving while recorded by infrared cameras.

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Last May the History Channel had a six-episode series on these videos. Interesting stuff.

Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation
www.history.com

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-04-27 06:00 PM | Reply

For me, the best part of watching these videos is that the objects behave incredibly similar to the accounts depicted by Bob Lazar at the S-4 section of Area 51.

He said the crafts do not fly like Hollywood has traditionally depicted them (side ways, seemingly aerodynamic). Bob's testimony, which has been consistent since the '80s, is that these crafts will levitate off the ground and point the belly of the craft towards the direction that its pilot wants to go. You can clearly see at least one of the crafts in these video do a roll maneuver, angling its belly towards the horizon before accelerating forward.

The first time I saw that video, I immediately thought of Bob Lazar's story. He recently went on the Joe Rogan podcast and discussed the Nimitz videos. It's just one more piece of evidence that has been realized the corroborates his story.

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-27 06:58 PM | Reply

Are you a Clutch fan, Rsty?
Escape From The Prison Planet.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 07:19 PM | Reply

#3 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

No, but know of the reference. You've got a sharp memory.

#4 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-27 07:26 PM | Reply

Been following Clutch for almost 30 years now, off and on. Since the Uncle Punchy days.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 07:31 PM | Reply

To me this meams only one thing: some how, some way, it's Hillary's turn again.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-27 07:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

You're opinion on this topic was the one I've been waiting around here for.

Please, indulge me.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-27 07:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#7 invisible except on thermal imaging (probably the field and not the vehicle).

Here is one the Coast Guard caught off Puerto Rico. Watch it dip underwater, keep going at the same speed, and re-emerge without a splash or wake. Sounds like a force field. Even an event horizon has to emit thermal photons because quantum information cannot be destroyed. We aren't seeing the vehicle, we are seeing its force field.

youtu.be

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-27 08:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

We aren't seeing the vehicle, we are seeing its force field.
youtu.be
#8 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

That footage is jaw dropping!

Could the lack of water disturbance be an indication that the object did not enter the water? Merely cloaking, resembling the water in the background?

#9 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-27 08:30 PM | Reply

Never mind, the footage is heat signature.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-27 08:32 PM | Reply

The Puerto Rico one, whatever it is, it's flying pretty low. This should place it in the field of view of lots of security cameras, traffic cameras, etc. along the flight path. Easy enough to cross reference. Did anyone ever try this?

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 08:34 PM | Reply

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11

That's black-on-white FLIR. Look at how black it is compared to other objects. It's putting off a ton of heat. So it's doing a lot of work and has to release the thermal energy.

Considering how many different types of these things there are though, it's like Earth is the truck-stop restroom for space-trash from across the galaxy....

#12 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-27 09:19 PM | Reply

#11 | Posted by snoofy

Yeah, but they all got fed to the aliens. Nothing verifiable.

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-27 09:21 PM | Reply

"Earth is the truck-stop restroom for space-trash from across the galaxy...."

I see you take a Wide Stance on the whole aliens-among-us thing.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-27 09:22 PM | Reply

@#12 ... That's black-on-white FLIR. Look at how black it is compared to other objects. It's putting off a ton of heat. ...

Are you assuming that dark equals energy releasing and white equals energy absorbing?


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-04-27 10:41 PM | Reply

What if...
We're the aliens and the crafts which we've observed, hang around bodies of water because they're from one of the large sectors of unexplored ocean.

They were here before humanity was..

#16 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-04-27 11:30 PM | Reply

#15 | Posted by LampLighter

Intensity is temperature (no hue in BW images) so black is hot and white is cold. You see it in the Navy IR videos too. Look at the vehicles and the roads for an example.

#17 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-28 03:43 AM | Reply

Possible explanations behind the three videos released by the pentagon.
m.youtube.com

#18 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-04-28 08:24 AM | Reply

They were here before humanity was..
#16 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

It's more than likely REALLY not that far off. Part of the Nimitz story includes a couple servicemen who witnessed a massive black object immediately beneath the surface of the water. So the Nimitz story does not only involve UFOs, but USOs as well.

Lastly, Bob Lazar contends there was something like 8 or 9 different craft at the S-4 facility he was working at. He was told that at least one of the craft that they were working on (he gave the impression that the technology in the craft was still operational) was really, really old; found in the ground. He referred to it as being ancient, so for me, that opened up a Pandora's box of possibilities similar to what you are contending.

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-28 02:54 PM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Very interesting and plausible explanations. What he doesn't address is why the Naval pilots and Navy brass reacted to the videos as they did. And why the pilots still contend they currently still can't be identified as contended in the youtube video. We're talking about highly trained personnel here, aren't we?

"The Fast Go video shows nothing more than a balloon." (Paraphrasing the youtube video.)

Should that be true, the Navy and those pilots must be damned embarrassed, which doesn't seem to be the case.

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-28 02:59 PM | Reply

Does anyone really believe if our government had aliens captured somewhere they wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops in order to instill fear?

#21 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-04-29 05:19 AM | Reply

Should that be true, the Navy and those pilots must be damned embarrassed, which doesn't seem to be the case.
#20 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

Definitely agree. With all their flight hours, I would bet that these pilots have observed weather balloons and other aircraft from a wide range of distances, speeds, and visibility before these moments were captured on film.
From their observations and later interviews, the pilots were observing something for the first time. Eerie

#22 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-04-29 09:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Intensity is temperature (no hue in BW images) so black is hot and white is cold. You see it in the Navy IR videos too. Look at the vehicles and the roads for an example."

You can select what hue you want to represent in the sensor settings. Typically, there will be a block that says BHOT or WHOT. BHOT stands for "black hot." You can probably guess what WHOT stands for

These videos are from the Navy. They tend to use their own pods that aren't common across the forces. In the bottom left corner are the letters BLK, which may be that system's indicator for BHOT.

#23 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-04-29 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ten years ago this would have been a bombshell announcement.

Today it's ho hum. So what? Everyone knows that the Aliens are everywhere. Womp womp. No big deal.

Ancient Astronaut Theorists knew about it all along.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-04-29 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-28 02:59 PM | Reply

Does anyone really believe if our government had aliens captured somewhere they wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops in order to instill fear?

If we cut a deal or we bagged one for parts, only we admit it's happening. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

#25 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-29 05:33 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by madbomber

Compare it to the clouds. That thing is so hot it pegged total black.

It's been a long time since I've worked on night vision equipment, but I know what I'm seeing. I'm sure you do too.

#26 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-29 06:09 PM | Reply

Does anyone really believe if our government had aliens captured somewhere they wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops in order to instill fear?
#21 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST

There are certain levels of fear to consider. GW, B. Hussein, and Trump instilled a specific level of fear as a means of control and manipulation. It's been pretty well established that, at least early on when this phenomenon was being taken seriously, leaders in government determined the public (in its contemporaneous form) would panic to such a degree that it would cause massive unrest, the type we've never seen. Honestly, I feel they were right, at the time.

Now is a different situation. I feel that we are capable of adapting to new, shocking information as a public much more quickly and efficiently. And a lot of that has to do with the way we take in and perceive information now compared to in the '40s and '50s. We are a vastly different public as a whole and at the individual level.

I believe they remain secretive (up until this point at least) about their knowledge on the subject because of stories like Bob Lazar's: the U.S. government has numerous self-serving interests in maintaining secrecy of not only technology that is centuries ahead of our current ability to produce (we can understand and operate, it was the production that was considered impossible, according to Lazar), but the entire idea that extraterrestrial life exists in the first place. And with funding (private and public) going into endeavors searching for microbial life or signals from the stars, it was well believed that the public's curiosity would be kept at bay. Besides, the UFOs in question have been proven elusive even to the US government's pricey technology (again, until now!). No reason to believe that the public would find a viable way of detecting these things, other than blurry photos, so really not too much to worry about in that case.

The one concern I have about Bob Lazar's story is why they haven't killed him yet. They (or at least someone) offed Epstein and that just had to do with rich people diddling teens and pre-teens. Bob's story, if true, sheds light on the most important matter in human history: We are in contact with beings from other worlds who possess immensely powerful technology that we have also been able to tap into. Not only that, these beings have been coming here for a very, very long time. And finding one of the crafts at the S-4 base near Area 51 in an archaeological dig would open a Pandora's box of other questions.

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-29 06:25 PM | Reply

In the bottom left corner are the letters BLK, which may be that system's indicator for BHOT.

^
This is correct

Explained: New Navy UFO Videos
www.youtube.com

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-29 06:34 PM | Reply

#27 I think that, if the government actually has solid evidence of ETs, they have very, very little of it.
Unanswered questions run the gamut of Who, What, When, Where, and Why.
If they know anything, the biggest reason for not telling us is the uncertainty.

It would also sort of crush the myth of American Exceptionalism if our military superiority is because we dug up alien junk. But it would usher in a Golden Age of archaeology... which would end up weakening our military superiority.

Pay no attention to the alien craft behind the curtain!

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-29 06:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In college, I had a friend that wasn't too deep into aliens or spacecraft from outer space, but he made it well known among our group that his grandfather was a rocket scientist, ended up being the lead for the Tomahawk missile project; the idea being here he had an in on the cutting edge technology being worked on (SKUNKWORKS anybody?).

So my buddy and I get high one night and start going off on anti-gravity. At that time, I was a big believer in aliens and them visiting (X-Files level fan and all), but couldn't bring myself to believe that anti-gravity would be something of a reality in my life time. My buddy pipes up saying, "Oh they already got the tech. They're working on weaponizing it." He then reiterated a conversation he had with his grandfather about anti-gravity. This conversation had nothing to do with aliens or space craft, but just the idea of how it works. My buddy continued to describe in convincing detail an anti-gravity craft would operate by creating it's own gravitational field. At the time, I had a difficulty wrapping my head around this idea, so he jumped into the why weaponizing the tech is so important and it comes down to ballistics. This suddenly was an Ah Ha! moment for me.

A typical fighter jet can shoot bullets or missiles away from it and towards a target in either defense or offense. A craft that creates its own gravitational field will not be able to use such a defense mechanism since anything that could potentially be shot away from the craft would be pulled right back to it by the intense gravity. IOW, the ballistics would not be able to exit the gravitational field created by the craft, rendering the craft vulnerable to attack. His ultimate point was that anti-gravity technology exists and the U.S. government has already developed it. The ongoing secrecy is tied to the need to develop a defensive/offensive mechanism, which physics suggests only a laser would be viable. He suggested that once laser technology is strong enough to be used as a defensive/offensive mechanism on an aircraft, the government would start lifting the secrecy. That was in 2001.

Lo and behold, laser technology is finally catching up:

Offensive laser weapons are still too big to put in a new fighter, according to Weiss, but defensive lasers can be made smaller and should be mature enough to go into the future fighter.

The Skunk Works is ready to demonstrate a directed-energy system on a Lockheed C-130 Hercules transport aircraft, as requested by U.S. Special Forces, he noted.

www.investors.com

The above was from 2017. And the vast majority of all this lines right up with Bob Lazar's story.

When I add it all up, my buddy's story, Bob Lazar's story, the Tic-Tac videos, the U.S. patenting anti-gravity technology in 2018 (https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30256/scientist-behind-the-navys-ufo-patents-has-now-filed- one-for-a-compact-fusion-reactor), and MORE! It's just all too convincing.

#30 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-29 06:51 PM | Reply

"anti-gravity"

Zero Point Energy.

In 1963 Robert Forward,[237] a physicist and aerospace engineer at Hughes Research Laboratories, published a paper showing how within the framework of general relativity "anti-gravitational" effects might be achieved. Since all atoms have spin, gravitational permeability may be able to differ from material to material. A strong toroidal gravitational field that acts against the force of gravity could be generated by materials that have nonlinear properties that enhance time-varying gravitational fields. Such an effect would be analogous to the nonlinear electromagnetic permeability of iron making it an effective core (i.e. the doughnut of iron) in a transformer, whose properties are dependent on magnetic permeability.[238][239][240] In 1966 Dewitt[241] was first to identify the significance of gravitational effects in superconductors. Dewitt demonstrated that a magnetic-type gravitational field must result in the presence of fluxoid quantization. In 1983, Dewitt's work was substantially expanded by Ross. en.wikipedia.org

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-04-29 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#31 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-04-29 06:58 PM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY

And I believe the lead researcher associated with said patents, Salvatore Pai, is basing a lot of the science on similar research.

Look him up. He conducted a symposium in California last year where he covered the physics and how to of these patents. This ---- is serious enough for Naval brass to contact the U.S. Patent Office to push through a rejection appeal tied to the patents (rejected since they don't line up with current accepted understanding of physics) based on the notion that the tech in question is, in fact, operable.

Laser tech is going to lead to the truth surrounding all of this.

#32 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-29 07:08 PM | Reply

At first they showed up on RADAR. Then they didn't. Now we can see them again with AESA.

They aren't more intelligent than us, just different. And remember, these are the super-intelligences that make spaceships that crash.

The path less traveled is a good explanation.

#33 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-29 07:46 PM | Reply

Really enjoying watching this:

Zero Point The Story of Mark McCandlish and the Fluxliner
youtu.be

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-04-29 08:28 PM | Reply

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11

Hey, zero-point energy has to be small or it's energy density would be massive enough to curl the universe up into a small ball gravitationally.

For the same reason fundamental particles can't be made up of even more fundamental ones all the way down.

No infinities.

#35 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-04-29 08:43 PM | Reply

We're talking about highly trained personnel here, aren't we?

#20 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11 AT 2020-04-28 02:59 PM | FLAG:

Sort of. They're also issued amphetamines to combat pilots until 2017 and it's resulted in friendly fire incidents.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-04-30 10:20 AM | Reply

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