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Thursday, May 07, 2020

A set of detailed documents created by the nation's top disease investigators meant to give step-by-step advice to local leaders deciding when and how to reopen public places such as mass transit, day care centers and restaurants during the still-raging pandemic has been shelved by the Trump administration. (The guidelines were) supposed to be published last Friday, but agency scientists were told the guidance "would never see the light of day," according to a CDC official.

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The 17-page report by a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention team, titled "Guidance for Implementing the Opening Up America Again Framework," was researched and written to help faith leaders, business owners, educators and state and local officials as they begin to reopen.

Traditionally, it's been the CDC's role to give the public and local officials guidance and science-based information during public health crises. During this one, however, the CDC has not had a regular, pandemic-related news briefing in nearly two months.

"CDC has always been the public health agency Americans turn to in a time of crisis," said Dr. Howard Koh, a Harvard professor and former health official in the Obama administration during the H1N1 "swine flu" pandemic in 2009. "The standard in a crisis is to turn to them for the latest data and latest guidance and the latest press briefing. That has not occurred, and everyone sees that."

"States, you're on your own. Just get those lazy meat plant workers back on the job and get your economies back up to speed. That's an order." - Herr Furor

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-07 07:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The worst disease is the Trump administration, just turn him off whenever his ugly face appears on your screen.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-07 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Operation Herd Immunity just started. Stay home, be safe, don't listen to the liars in our government. They just don't care how many of us die, they really don't.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-07 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

More info...

The C.D.C. prepared detailed guidelines for reopening. The White House rejected them, asking for revisions.
www.nytimes.com

...The Trump administration has rejected detailed guidelines from health experts to help schools, restaurants, churches and other establishments safely reopen, saying they are too prescriptive, according to several administration officials.

The White House has asked for revisions from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, whose public health experts wrote the guidance, but some officials at the C.D.C. have privately expressed concern that the recommendations will never be posted publicly.

In a senior staff meeting at the White House last week, Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, expressed concern that the guidelines were "overly prescriptive," according to a person familiar with the discussion. Mr. Meadows' concern, the official said, was that the guidelines were too uniform and regressive for places with minimal numbers of cases.

A copy of the guidance [link in the article] obtained by The New York Times includes sections dealing with child care programs, schools and day camps, communities of faith, employers with vulnerable workers, restaurants and bars, and mass transit administrators.

President Trump has been desperate to reopen the country quickly amid the worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression. The detailed C.D.C. guidance was seen by members of the White House coronavirus task force and other aides as a document that could slow down that effort, according to several people with knowledge of the deliberations inside the West Wing. The dissension on the guidelines was first reported by The Associated Press,...


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-07 10:57 AM | Reply

The rejected reopening guidance was described by one of the federal officials as a touchstone document that was to be used as a blueprint for other groups inside the CDC who are creating the same type of instructional materials for other facilities. The guidance contained detailed advice for making site-specific decisions related to reopening schools, restaurants, summer camps, churches, day care centers and other institutions. It had been widely shared within the CDC and included detailed "decision trees," flow charts to be used by local officials to think through different scenarios.
Is there any rational, public safety reason such a comprehensive plan should be abandoned as the official guideline compendium for America's reopening of commerce?

I truly stand amazed that Trump and his officials are allowing themselves to become the sole blame for America's wretched mounting death toll and the inevitable accounting for the same due to the absence of a federally-led, comprehensive testing/tracing/isolation protocol. This is starting to border on criminal neglect as the obvious steps to protect the safety and welfare of citizens is short shrifted in an already doomed effort to ignore the virulence of a coronavirus that multiplies by human to human contact. So of course the Administration's immediate plans are giving the virus just what it needs to further wreak havoc throughout our society.

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-07 11:09 AM | Reply

From the AP article[1] mentioned in the NYTimes article cited above, here is the CDC document...

www.documentcloud.org

Described as:

CDC documents
The Trump administration has shelved a set of detailed documents created by the nation's top disease investigators meant to give step-by-step advice to local leaders deciding when and how to reopen public places during the still-raging pandemic, AP reports.

[1] - https://apnews.com/7a00d5fba3249e573d2ead4bd323a4d4

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-07 11:21 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by tonyroma

Trump has decided to brass the plague through, TONY. He's decided to deny and ignore the dead and dying, promote a personally heroic picture of his response, and viciously contradict anyone who dares point out the truth.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-07 11:23 AM | Reply

Is there any rational, public safety reason such a comprehensive plan should be abandoned...

Yes. My plan is better.
~Jarvanka

#8 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-07 11:37 AM | Reply

No worries, here's an example of some of the Trump guidelines:

The Trump administration is determined to keep meatpacking plants open and running fast even as they become epicenters of coronavirus"and administration officials are trying to distract from that by blaming the workers for getting sick. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar recently told a bipartisan group of lawmakers that the high infection rates at meatpacking plants weren't about the plants themselves but about the workers' "home and social" lives.

"Their theory of the case is that [workers] are not becoming infected in the meat processing plant, they're becoming infected because of the way they live in their home," Rep. Ann Kuster of New Hampshire told Politico about the call. This comes after workers at one Smithfield pork plant filed a complaint saying they could get in trouble for pausing their work long enough to cover their faces while coughing or sneezing, and after at least one company has threatened a union for going public with safety concerns. This work involves standing close together without time to wash or sanitize hands regularly"in part, because the Trump administration allowed a speed-up of pork processing lines.

Daily Kos

#9 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-05-07 01:31 PM | Reply

@#9 ... This work involves standing close together without time to wash or sanitize hands regularly -- in part, because the Trump administration allowed a speed-up of pork processing lines. ...


Back in the day, I posted here about the line speed-up, citing this this article...

Inspectors warn unsafe pork could make its way to consumers under Trump rule change
www.nbcnews.com

...The new system will speed up the processing lines and reduce the number of inspectors.

America's food inspectors are warning that "unsafe" pork is likely making it to consumers under a change in rules for meat inspection.

That change is now set to roll out nationwide to plants that process more than 90 percent of the pork Americans eat.

"The consumer's being duped," Food Safety and Inspection Service inspector Jill Mauer told NBC News. "They believe that it actually is getting federally inspected when there's no one there to even watch or do anything about anything."...

Finally, the federal limit on line speed -- or the rate at which hog carcasses can be moved for processing and inspection -- will be removed....


[emphasis mine]


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-07 01:52 PM | Reply

We need to move Trump's carcass out of the WH asap.

But not unless Bernie can be appointed President instead, of course.

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2020-05-07 09:53 PM | Reply

Criminal negligence.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-07 11:15 PM | Reply

The worst disease is the Trump administration, just turn him off whenever his ugly face appears on your screen.

#2 | POSTED BY DANNIM

Yup. Might as well. I don't watch him anymore. Can't stand it.

Everything he says is a lie.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-07 11:17 PM | Reply

States, you're on your own. Just get those lazy meat plant workers back on the job and get your economies back up to speed. That's an order." - Herr Furor
#1 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

"Arbeit macht frei"

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-07 11:23 PM | Reply

Dr. Disinfectant will do ---- like this to the American people while living a sheltered life where he and everyone around him is tested every day for the virus. It is clear his only concern is winning in November and if a few million people have to die for him to avoid being prosecuted in NYS so be it.

#15 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-05-08 08:15 AM | Reply

He's decided to deny and ignore the dead

No he hasn't. His approach now is to say how great his response has been to keep the dead as low as it is. He will constantly brag about how only his policies kept the number of dead to less than 2,000,000. When the number of dead hits 2,000,000 he will move the goal post to 6,000,000.

#16 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-05-08 08:18 AM | Reply

It's tearing the nation apart. We might be better off without the fed. Trump is the worst president yet. Not the most vicious but the most venial and self interested. Interesting times suck.

#17 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-08 09:21 PM | Reply

"Trump is the worst president yet."

But her emails!

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-08 09:23 PM | Reply

Hillary might have been worse. We COULD be in a massive shooting war for Israel. We're not. Trump isn't really a war guy. He only plays at that.
Hillary wanted a shooting war. As president she would have been another G. W. Bush. We dodged a bullet there.
In my humble opinion.

#19 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-09 02:17 PM | Reply

The 17-page report by a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention team, titled "Guidance for Implementing the Opening Up America Again Framework," was researched and written to help faith leaders, business owners, educators and state and local officials as they begin to reopen.

The full report was actually 60 pages long:

As early as April 10, Redfield, who is also a member of the White House coronavirus task force, shared via email the guidance and decision trees with President Donald Trump's inner circle, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner, top adviser Kellyanne Conway and Joseph Grogan, assistant to the president for domestic policy. Also included were Dr. Deborah Birx, Dr. Anthony Fauci and other task force members.

Three days later, CDC's upper management sent the more than 60-page report with attached flow charts to the White House Office of Management and Budget, a step usually taken only when agencies are seeking final White House approval for documents they have already cleared.

The 17-page version later released by the AP and other news outlets was only part of the actual document submitted by the CDC, and targeted specific facilities like bars and restaurants. The AP obtained a copy Friday of the full document. That version is a more universal series of phased guidelines, "Steps for All Americans in Every Community," geared to advise communities as a whole on testing, contact tracing and other fundamental infection control measures.


apnews.com

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-09 03:47 PM | Reply

CSPAN @cspan

President Trump: "This is going to go away without a vaccine."

twitter.com

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-09 04:03 PM | Reply

President Trump: "This is going to go away without a vaccine."
twitter.com
#21 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

He's not wrong...

After 18 months or so, once the virus has infected roughly 2/3 of Americans, there will be noone left for it to infect, which is called "herd immunity."

By then, the death toll will be counted in millions.

Trampers are fine with that. They'd rather talk about something else now. As you might have noticed, they don't participate in coronavirus threads any more.

The First Rule of Trump Club is you don't talk about coronavirus, unless you blame it on China.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-09 06:20 PM | Reply

Let em' die, useless eaters,life that is unworthy of life, work will make you free. The best will thrive while the useless die.

America 2020, or Germany 1940, you tell me?

#23 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-09 09:17 PM | Reply

#22 He and they are all about 2020 MAGA talk:

Trump urged Americans to think of this period as a "transition to greatness," adding during a meeting with Republican members of Congress: "We're going to do something very fast, and we're going to have a phenomenal year next year."

www.msn.com

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-09 09:26 PM | Reply

From the same above linked to reporting:

But Trump's outward projections of assurance and hope masked the more sober acknowledgments of some outside advisers and experts who worry the number of deaths will either stabilize around 2,000 per day or continue to climb over the next month.

"The question is, will people become anesthetized to it? Are they willing to accept that?" said one adviser to the White House coronavirus task force who, like many others interviewed for this story, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters or offer candid assessments.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-09 09:28 PM | Reply

Posts 26 through 38 are completely off-topic and so are meant to distract from the subject matter of this thread, which must be deemed as very dangerous to somebody. Trump and his re-election chances perhaps?

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-09 10:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trolldude is Offensive.... and whiny.

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2020-05-09 11:34 PM | Reply

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