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Sunday, May 10, 2020

The conservative chief justice of Wisconsin's state Supreme Court is under fire after she said this week that meatpackers in Wisconsin who have contracted the coronavirus aren't "regular folks" like other residents of the state.

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Meatpackers are evil beings. Makes you wonder why we let them handle our food at all.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-10 09:07 AM | Reply

Who let the serfs out of the meat plant?

#2 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-10 10:33 AM | Reply

Just another sad mile post on my home state's s ten year slide to the bottom.

#3 | Posted by SLBronkowitz at 2020-05-10 08:37 PM | Reply

From my experience, Packers are exceptional human beings. It takes an exceptional individual to stand at a cutting station for a shift day in and day out cutting meat. Doing something unpleasant and dangerous is stock in trade for men who love their families more than their own lives.

#4 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-10 10:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

aren't "regular folks"

They are low-class Americans who have such negligible economic utility, they are forced do the kind of work illegal immigrants are supposed to do.

They made bad choices. Getting sick and dying because they aren't worth the cost of PPE is really their fault, when you think about it like Republicans do.

I'm sure Eberly will tell me if I'm wrong about that.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-10 10:22 PM | Reply

#5 | Posted by snoofy, it is obvious you have never been on a line. It's hot and noisy. Low class? Packers make good money. That job is a ticket to the middle class if they can do it for a while. PPE? Packers are covered from head to foot in PPE of some type. Boots and over boots, chaps, apron, hard hat, arm guards, armored gloves, and in some areas face guards. I doubt a face mask would help much. Most can't tolerate a mask for a shift. Did I say the work is in a hot environment?

#6 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-10 10:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Doc,

A quick google search suggests a a meat packer makes 25-30K a year.

Are you lying? Or do you think that that is "good money"?

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-11 12:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most can't tolerate a mask for a shift. Did I say the work is in a hot environment?

#6 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2020-05-10 10:50 PM | PLAD| PPPPFFFFTTTTTTTT

and yet medical staff manages to do it all the time... in hot blood soaked environments

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-05-11 02:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

How can you allow a person like that to be a judge? Can she be impartial with an attitude like that?

#9 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-11 08:24 AM | Reply

#7 | Posted by jpw In Amarillo Texas, 25-30 a year is good money. Most packers with a modicum of experience make considerably more. Closer to 45 to 50. A guy on the cutting line makes much more than someone stuffing boxes or loading trucks. I worked on a cleaning crew, I got twice minimum wadge way back in 1983. Yea, running a steam wand for eight hours isn't easy, but it paid. Most places I know of start at 13 an hour.

#10 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-11 08:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Cutting meat sounds like a great job for those statehouse protesters crying about getting back to work. They kill three birds with one boning knife--they get a job, run illegals out of the employment pool and do their patriotic duty by working in a Trump-favored industry. Those loudmouths should be lined up to take those jobs, right? lined up...Right?...

#11 | Posted by catdog at 2020-05-11 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Folks, it's 2020. Can't we get passed this "meat packing" euphemism already?

#12 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-05-11 09:26 AM | Reply

Most can't tolerate a mask for a shift. Did I say the work is in a hot environment?

#6 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Hot? I have only been in chicken plants, but I know at least for them the building has to be refrigerated after slaughter. USDA requirement to keep the meat from spoiling.

I guess if you were in the pre-slaughter part it would probably be hot, but you also would not be in closely packed lines cutting up the carcass (generally not the best idea to start carving the animal up before it is dead).

And I don't question whether they were unrefrigerated in 1983. Just think a couple of things might have changed since then.

Just questioning whether you actually have any relevant (contemporary) knowledge of the industry.

#13 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-05-11 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our First Lady's, first job was a " meat packer"'. Am I right?

#14 | Posted by zelkova at 2020-05-11 10:32 AM | Reply

In Amarillo Texas, 25-30 a year is good money.

No it isn't. The average house there costs nearly $140k. Even with good credit and a sizeable downpayment you're looking at $800+/month in housing costs. Even if you took home 80% of your pay after taxes and health insurance, a 25k salary will net you $1666/month in take home pay, which means youre spending half your money on your house. That is not a tenable financial situation, much less "good money."

Of all the ------------ on this site you're at the top of the list. Just stfu already.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-11 10:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

As to the article, Wisconsin's state supreme court is a mockery full of hacks. The deciding vote in this case about the stay at home order is likely to be cast by a Walker-appointed religious zealot with no prior judicial experience, who already lost re-election by double digits but continues to hear cases as a lame duck.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-11 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#15 | Posted by JOE Why not look at houses for sale in Amarillo? You can get a two bedroom starter for about 50. Beats the hell out of being a renter forever.

#17 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-11 11:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

In Amarillo Texas, 25-30 a year is good money.

$30,000 a year isn't anywhere close to "good money" these days in the U.S. Housing and health care costs too much for that to be true.

#18 | Posted by rcade at 2020-05-11 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Headline should read:

Plutocrats Use Conservative Judge to Keep Their Wage Slaves on the Line

#19 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-05-11 02:08 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by jpw In Amarillo Texas, 25-30 a year is good money.... Most places I know of start at 13 an hour.
#10 | POSTED BYDOCNJO

Ok Boomer.
1. It's not good money, even in Amarillo.
2. 25k-30k a year is $12.50-$15 an hour. In line with your starting wage. Meaning it's also the maximum wage.

Maybe you'd like to say why so many meat processing plants are shutting down because they are centers of coronavirus outbreaks, if they have such good PPE in place?

Failure of management, maybe? Or is it because the workers aren't regular folks.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 02:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most places I know of start at 13 an hour.

#10 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Which is about 26K a year with two weeks vacation and full time hours per week.

Still not good money.

You can easily walk into a job at that pay level without the danger of a processing line.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-11 02:37 PM | Reply

#15 | POSTED BY JOE

That's why BOTH parents/adults in the household should be working on the meat line!

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-11 02:38 PM | Reply

Why not look at houses for sale in Amarillo? You can get a two bedroom starter for about 50. Beats the hell out of being a renter forever.
#17 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2020-05-11 11:55 AM | FLAG:

Run-down 700 square foot shacks are not what "good money" buys, moron.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-11 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Docnjo, your numbers, just like your thinking on race, is straight outta the 1950s.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sorry to tell y'all, most work at what is available. Do their best with what opportunities show themselves. I can build a 1200 QF frame house, two bed room, one bath to code, for about 35,000. You buy it for 70,000. The bank collects about 120,000 on the loan. Knowledge is power.

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-11 05:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Where are new homes for sale for $70,000, Docnjo?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 06:32 PM | Reply

#14 ZELKOVA

Mushroom picker, actually.;]

#27 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-05-11 08:14 PM | Reply

Posted by docnjo

Every comment you've made on this thread is not only incorrect, but, flat out stupid.

This level of stupidity is unusual.

#28 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-11 10:31 PM | Reply

#28 Yeah I agree. I disagree with Docnjo on politics, but not on simple facts like a new home costs $70,000, or $30K is a good living.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 10:34 PM | Reply

"Every comment you've made on this thread is not only incorrect, but, flat out stupid.
This level of stupidity is unusual.

#28 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD "

So rebut it. Stupidity is easy to rebut. 0r are you not smart enough to do so?

#30 | Posted by goatman at 2020-05-11 10:35 PM | Reply

#28 | Posted by Angrydad, So how many homes and apartments have you built? The markup is usually 100%, so a 100k home usually costs less than 50 to build. Some of the apartments I built were so poorly constructed I was ashamed. Some of the homes would never pass code if the inspector knew his business. Serious stuff like the depth of foundation footings and the number of studs in load bearing walls or the spacing of roofing joists. Call it planed obsolescence. Guaranteed to last for the duration of your note. The fact is I know the business, which is why I trust a 70 year old frame house more than a 30 year old home built on a slab.

#31 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-12 06:49 AM | Reply

#26 | Posted by snoofy Wait for six months, you will see plenty of 120,000 dollar homes be reduced to that number.

#32 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-12 06:55 AM | Reply

Dude you've done nothing but assert absurdities then backpedal when shown how foolish they are.

So now there will BE plenty of homes, soon of course, that one can buy for 70K.

Just admit you're wrong and be a man about it.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-12 11:17 AM | Reply

#33 | Posted by jpw Take Economics 101, Price is determined by demand. Which is why most millionaires made their fortunes in real estate. Markets determine price. In real estate, location is more important than quality. I can buy a nice house with 7 acres and finished outbuildings for 80,000. The reason, it's in Ada Oklahoma. The same house would cost 1.5 million anywhere on the left coast. The pool of prospective home buyers is shrinking rapidly. Less demand will result in lower costs.

#34 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-12 12:05 PM | Reply

Take Economics 101

I'm so tired of economically illiterate righties saying this as if it's an argument.

You're rapidly devolving your argument because you can't support it.

25-30K isn't "good money". Period.

Stop flailing.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-12 12:50 PM | Reply

The pool of prospective home buyers is shrinking rapidly. Less demand will result in lower costs.
#34 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Yeah.
You say that like Detroit, with its thousands of vacant homes for the price of a decent used car, is a nice place to live.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-12 12:57 PM | Reply

"Which is about 26K a year with two weeks vacation and full time hours per week."

No paid vacations at that level. No sick leave.

No health care either if Trumpy and his axis of evil have their way.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-12 01:30 PM | Reply

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