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Monday, May 11, 2020

Now that the state of Florida has resumed releasing nursing home death data following a lawsuit by the Miami Herald, the data shows an alarming increase in deaths. There were 664 deaths from coronavirus in the state at nursing homes and long-term care facilities last week, an increase of 242 from the previous week. One Seminole nursing home had 23 deaths: 22 residents and one member of the staff. Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), who recently jokingly called Florida "God's waiting room," has struggled to contain the spread of the virus among the elderly even as he allows more businesses and parks to reopen.

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Looks to me like DeSantis was hoping that by not testing nursing home residents for Covid, he could claim not many of them it:

Less than two weeks ago, while at the White House with President Donald Trump, Gov. Ron DeSantis touted what he deemed Florida's success in keeping the coronavirus out of senior care facilities. DeSantis pointed to Florida's percentage of COVID-19 infections per 100,000 residents.

During the White House visit by DeSantis, President Trump praised the governor's "spectacular job" and his "great (coronavirus) numbers." At the time, DeSantis said he'd ordered all staff at senior care facilities to be screened to determine if they had a temperature.

Florida has resisted widespread testing like that done of all staff and residents in Maryland nursing homes and similar comprehensive testing in Ohio. At the same White House news conference, members of the Trump administration's coronavirus task force advocated for wider screening because of the asymptomatic spread of the virus.

To date, about 10% of all workers in senior care facilities and 2% of residents have been tested, according to estimates from the Florida Health Care Association, a trade group.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-11 02:44 PM | Reply

@#1 ... Looks to me like DeSantis was hoping that by not testing nursing home residents for Covid, ...

Looks like a similar tactic that Nebraska has used for its prison population.

Nebraska state government boasted that there were no cases of COVID-19 among the prison population. What Nebraska neglected to say was that zero prisoners had been tested for COVID-19.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-11 02:50 PM | Reply

Danke, Doctor Death DeSantis!

#3 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-05-11 02:57 PM | Reply

Florida Nursing Home Deaths Spike Dramatically?

Trump Spikes Football, Does Victory Dance In End Zone!

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 03:20 PM | Reply

Don't count your chickens before they've hatched, and don't count your coronavirus cases before they've been tested.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-11 03:30 PM | Reply

The GOP are loving Covid.
They can kill old people on medicare and medicade and social security, for more tax cuts.
They can loot the treasury and give trillions to their donors.
They can bankrupt social security, so they can kill it for more tax cuts.
They can bankrupt states and cities, so they have to sell off their assets at fire sale prices to the rich.

So much winning.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-11 03:50 PM | Reply

No victory lap for GracieAmazed?
Maybe she left the dome light on all weekend and now it won't start.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 05:14 PM | Reply

My Mom lives in an independent living facility, 84 condos, They share the property with an assisted living facility and rehab facility, 204 units. Not one case of COVID19. Excellent management prevented this. The Miami Herald is a liberal rag that hates Trump and all things "R". By all means don't blame the facilities themselves for piss poor management and or not following guidelines put in place by our great Gov DeSantis. Get a grip FFS.

#9 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-11 05:25 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

You sure they've been tested? Any other facilities that have 0% infection rate?

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-11 05:33 PM | Reply

#10 They have been on lockdown since early March. They can't leave and we can visit. Care packages can be delivered to the guard gate and are kept for 24 hours before delivered. Staff and vendors (food delivery, uniform delivery, etc) must have a temp check before entering the property. USPS drops mail off at the gate. It is then sorted and delivered by staff. Every resident has a temp check twice daily If any of them leave by EMS they are returned to a quarantine wing set up on the rehab side. There was one facility here at the beginning that made the news, they were slow with precautions. There have been no news stories since. We have a great mayor in Jacksonville which is why we are a model other counties follow.

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-11 05:55 PM | Reply

The Miami Herald should concern themselves with what is going on in their demographic.

Gov DeSantis today: 16 million Floridians live in our original Phase 1 counties (all but Dade, Broward and Palm Beach). 206 COVID patients are in the ICU (.001%) and 105 COVID patients are on ventilators (.0007%). Yesterday yielded 187 new cases in Phase 1 counties with a positivity rate of 1.43%. The positivity rate has ranged between 1.43% and 4.2% over the past 2 weeks for our Phase 1 counties and has noticeably declined in the past week.

#12 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-11 05:57 PM | Reply

South Florida is a part of Florida, Gracie. You don't get to minimize a problem by pretending the most populous part of the state doesn't exist.

There's no state with a greater need to protect senior citizens than Florida and DeSantis is declaring victory instead of admitting the outbreak is still a growing threat.

#13 | Posted by rcade at 2020-05-11 06:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You don't get to minimize a problem by pretending the most populous part of the state doesn't exist."

Come on man. The Deplorables come here to pretend that all the time.

Coronavirus isn't that bad if you just ignore NYC.
Gun violence isn't that bad if you just ignore the ten biggest Democrat run cities.

They live in Sarah Palin's Real America.
You don't.
You're the problem.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 06:13 PM | Reply

From the article: "Overall, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties accounted for nearly half of the deaths in long-term care facilities in the state."

Maybe DeSantis needs to head to South Florida and start having people arrested, seems like 'some' people are not doing their jobs. We don't have that problem in Jacksonville or the county where you live RCADE.

Hope all is well with you and yours. Thankfully me and mine are good!

#15 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-11 06:20 PM | Reply

We don't have that problem in Jacksonville or the county where you live RCADE

South Florida must not be a bunch of "Chicken Little's" that locked things up.

Here in JAX The Players Golf Tournament is on. The Gate River Run is on. Bike Week in Daytona is on. Carry on Chicken Little's.
~POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED AT 2020-03-06

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-11 06:44 PM | Reply

"They have been on lockdown since early March. They can't leave and we can visit. Care packages can be delivered to the guard gate and are kept for 24 hours before delivered. Staff and vendors (food delivery, uniform delivery, etc) must have a temp check before entering the property. USPS drops mail off at the gate. It is then sorted and delivered by staff. Every resident has a temp check twice daily If any of them leave by EMS they are returned to a quarantine wing set up on the rehab side. There was one facility here at the beginning that made the news, they were slow with precautions. There have been no news stories since. We have a great mayor in Jacksonville which is why we are a model other counties follow."

The assisted living center where my friend's mom lived was in lockdown (they couldn't leave and no visitors permitted) in February due to the regular flu. They came out of lockdown for a week or two, then went back into lockdown in March for Covid. Not only was the facility in lockdown, but my friend's mom was confined to her apartment alone (as in no roommate). She must have gotten Covid from a staff person who came into help her (a nurse, nurse's aide, cleaning person). The staff member was likely asymptomatic at the time, meaning no temperature. In fact, my friend's mom did not have a fever herself when she tested positive for the virus, which is one of the reasons the nursing staff at the center was "shocked" that she did. When she went to the hospital, she still had no fever, so they tested her again: positive. She didn't develop a fever until a few days after she had first been diagnosed.

So, you see the precautions your" great mayor" is taking, which are prudent and necessary, are not always foolproof. I think two other factors are at play: how prevalent the virus is in a given area, and therefore what the odds are of a staff member being an asymptomatic carrier (obviously the odds increase when the number of cases in an area increase), and luck or divine intervention, if you prefer.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-11 08:13 PM | Reply

We don't have that problem in Jacksonville or the county where you live RCADE.

There is nothing Jacksonville has done better than other parts of Florida. Testing in Jacksonville was so slow to scale that as recently as 10 days ago you needed exposure to a confirmed case of coronavirus before you could get tested at Everbank. So all the people who had obvious coronavirus symptoms but didn't know where they got it couldn't get the test. This kept the state case count significantly lower than it really was.

When you were calling people Chicken Littles it was obvious the pandemic was spreading all over the place. You just had the misfortune of trusting sources like Fox News instead of the rest of the media.

Because Bike Week was held cases of coronavirus were contracted there and brought back to other places across America. Our spring break was also a super-spreader.

#19 | Posted by rcade at 2020-05-11 08:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18 I would like to respond but it appears I am no longer able to. Have a great evening.

#20 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-11 08:23 PM | Reply

So, you see the precautions your" great mayor" is taking, which are prudent and necessary, are not always foolproof.

Can we talk about the delta between the Mayor's leadership which Gracie praised, and Trump's leadership in the opposite direction which Gracie also praised?

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-11 08:38 PM | Reply

I wanted to add that my friend's mom's experience is in NY state in a county that has over 3000 cases and over 100 deaths. My own mother lives in an independent living center in PA in a county that I'm told has about 100 cases and around 6 deaths, 2 of which were in an assisted living center where my grandmother used to live and which is affiliated with the facility where my mom is (run by the same people but not in the same complex). All other things being equal, and they aren't always equal I grant you, it seems obvious to me that what is going on in the surrounding area plays a role in what happens in these senior citizen centers.

"Thankfully me and mine are good!"

I hope you and your mom stay safe and healthy, Gracie.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-11 08:40 PM | Reply

"Hope all is well with you and yours. Thankfully me and mine are good!"
#15 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED AT 2020-05-11 06:20 PM

#23 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-11 08:45 PM | Reply

Yes, my post #22 was in response to your post #15.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-11 08:48 PM | Reply

I want to point out that you are believing an example that gracie is claiming to be true.

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-05-11 09:21 PM | Reply

I wonder if the general had a fever?:

Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs (Sr. White House reporter for Bloomberg News)

NEWS: A rapid test just ahead of Trump meeting with military leaders Saturday is what caught Gen. Lengyel's positive reading, I'm told.

Coronavirus scare is getting VERY close to Trump when one of his generals tests positive *at White House,* as well as a valet and a VP aide.

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-12 08:28 AM | Reply

#10 They have been on lockdown since early March. They can't leave and we can visit. Care packages can be delivered to the guard gate and are kept for 24 hours before delivered. Staff and vendors (food delivery, uniform delivery, etc) must have a temp check before entering the property. USPS drops mail off at the gate. It is then sorted and delivered by staff. Every resident has a temp check twice daily If any of them leave by EMS they are returned to a quarantine wing set up on the rehab side. There was one facility here at the beginning that made the news, they were slow with precautions. There have been no news stories since. We have a great mayor in Jacksonville which is why we are a model other counties follow.

#11 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Let me get this straight...

The elderly community center there has done the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the President and Governor want for everyone else and have gotten lucky that its worked so far?

But you support a President and Governor who want them to throw open the gates and get back to normal despite the continued threat?

No...That makes perfect sense....

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-12 11:47 AM | Reply

From the article: "Overall, Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties accounted for nearly half of the deaths in long-term care facilities in the state."
Maybe DeSantis needs to head to South Florida and start having people arrested, seems like 'some' people are not doing their jobs. We don't have that problem in Jacksonville or the county where you live RCADE.
Hope all is well with you and yours. Thankfully me and mine are good!
#15 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Oops. Two Pinellas County nursing homes just evacuated 15 patients who tested positive for the virus.

Guess it's coming to a city near you soon enough.

#28 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-12 11:51 AM | Reply

It's all about management. If you have a piss poor mayor you get piss poor results. If you have piss poor business management of nursing homes you get piss poor results. Shame on Pinellas County.

#29 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-12 11:58 AM | Reply

As the state starts to reopen, coronavirus cases in Central Florida's nursing homes and assisted-living facilities continue to climb, fueling concerns that asymptomatic workers-- including hospice caregivers and home-health clinicians--may be spreading the virus from one facility to another.

www.orlandosentinel.com

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-12 12:55 PM | Reply

Sorry, above quote is from this link:

Florida nursing home coronavirus cases, deaths rising

www.orlandosentinel.com

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-12 12:59 PM | Reply

"fueling concerns that asymptomatic workers-- including hospice caregivers and home-health clinicians--may be spreading the virus from one facility to another."

Ummm. Duh?

It's a smorgasbord!

This virus just loves all these tasty stupid Americans who cannot seem to understand what "very contagious" means.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-12 01:32 PM | Reply

It's all about management. If you have a piss poor mayor you get piss poor results. If you have piss poor business management of nursing homes you get piss poor results. Shame on Pinellas County.

#29 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Because an asymptomatic worker couldn't walk in and infect a nursing home with ease?

No, that makes perfect sense.

But I get your point. Trump and Republican Governors are getting piss poor results because they are piss poor leaders.

It's nice to see you admit it.

#33 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-12 04:10 PM | Reply

Trump 2020: Because God's waiting room only has so many seats.

#34 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-12 04:17 PM | Reply

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