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Friday, May 15, 2020

A physically fit 33-year-old runner with no health conditions says coronavirus hit her hard and 27 days after hospitalization she still has pneumonia. "I can't walk more than a few blocks without stopping. I want Americans to understand that this virus is making otherwise young, healthy people very, very sick. I want them to know, this is no flu," writes Mara Gay. "Even healthy New Yorkers in their 20s have been hospitalized."

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Exactly what I've been saying. We see young people who appear to be the picture of health come into our hospitals everyday after having believed the virus couldn't infect them. The focus on who is at most risk of death and death counts doesn't come anywhere near close to telling the full story of the suffering patients are going through while they are infected and the long term damage the virus may be doing to their bodies. I support throat punches for anyone saying we should reopen schools and let the kids get infected. Not to silence them. I support their freedom of uniformed speech but instead to remind them of what pain feels like and then ask them if they want millions of school aged children to feel that same way throughout their bodies.

#1 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-05-15 11:04 AM | Reply

I think it's possible she had already contracted the virus before she took her run the previous day. And the heavier breathing from the run helped push it further into her lungs.

#2 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-05-15 11:18 AM | Reply

We are opening up our economy here in S. Florida on Monday and I think it is a huge mistake, people like me will die. I fear this, I'm healthy but I'm also 69 years old. Trust me, I won't be eating in restaurants or getting my nails done or hair cut. I'm staying home except for grocery shopping and actually we've been ordering it to be delivered lately, paying a little more but not going out to the store so it's worth it.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-15 11:25 AM | Reply

I think it's possible she had already contracted the virus before she took her run the previous day. And the heavier breathing from the run helped push it further into her lungs.

#2 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

By the day before symptoms the virus was likely already there. It takes time to build up enough damage and inflammation to cause symptoms.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-15 11:39 AM | Reply

#5 Trump propaganda.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-15 01:46 PM | Reply

#5 liar.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-15 02:20 PM | Reply

#3 That is wise Danni. Protect yourself and your loved ones. Let the covidiots volunteer to collect data on the damage covid does.
My family won't be eating out for a year. We are actually enjoying cooking and the rare order in. Vacation will be RV camping.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-15 02:21 PM | Reply

Where's madbomber? I figured he would be here to talk about how harmless the virus is to people of his demographic. He thinks he's bulletproof and so is his family. I doubt we'll see him on THIS thread. He's got nothing.

#9 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-15 02:36 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY MSGT

Yeah, that's why my hospital currently has 30+ people in ICU on ventilators with covid, over half of whom are under 40 years old. Totally normally, right?

#10 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-05-15 03:37 PM | Reply

When is the last time seasonal flu killed ~100,000 people in 3-4 months? When is the last time we ran out of body bags? When is the last time we had bodies stacking up in refrigeration trucks, with the morgues and mortuaries overflowing?

My cardiologist, a man in his 40's, was just recently hospitalized with COVID. Yeah, happens all the time.

#11 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-05-15 03:49 PM | Reply

#5 LIAR. That is not free speech. That is screaming fire in a crowded theater. Free speech does not extend to harming others. You should be charged.

#12 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-15 06:17 PM | Reply

Go easy on MSGT. He's the only trumper dumb enough to show his face outside the cult bubble. Notice the number of trump supporters on this site is shockingly low lately? Wonder why that is all of a sudden.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-15 09:23 PM | Reply

Ever wondered why they stopped updating them? Maybe it's worse than they're saying not better?If it was better they would be shouting it from the rooftops. The increasing secrecy about the mortality of this makes me suspicious. It may not be a sinister plot to hide higher deathrates but that can't be ruled out.

In any case,the reluctance to be open about the virus is not a sign of confidence in their understanding of it's effects,rather it shows a desire to push a spurious narrative that minimizes the true effect of it.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-16 06:56 AM | Reply

People are saying that covid causes erectile dysfunction.

#17 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-16 10:34 AM | Reply

#16 Under reporting being difficult to do?

Hahahahahaha. Ha.

#18 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-16 10:36 AM | Reply

You can minimize it all you want, but it remains that we have bodies stacking up in morgues and mortuaries, healthcare and emergency workers being hospitalized and dying.

This is not like the annual flu. It's more contagious and, unlike seasonal flu, we don't have an effective treatment or a vaccine.

#19 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-05-16 11:51 AM | Reply

This isn't Facebook. If you post comments that falsely portray the coronavirus as non-serious your posting will be suspended. If it continues your posting will be turned off and you can ask to be let back in after the pandemic is over.

It isn't the flu. It isn't overhyped. No one has a "close to zero" chance of getting seriously ill or dying from this. The U.S. counts of confirmed cases are not fake.

The U.S. has 1.47 million cases and 88,237 confirmed deaths. The actual number of dead likely exceeds 100,000.

www.nytimes.com

#20 | Posted by rcade at 2020-05-16 12:18 PM | Reply

This isn't Facebook. If you post comments that falsely portray the coronavirus as non-serious your posting will be suspended. If it continues your posting will be turned off and you can ask to be let back in after the pandemic is over. - Rcade

The problem is the numbers have been all over the place. The modeling has been terrible. Countless temporary hospitals were erected to try to deal with the flood of CV patients and the hospitals themselves ended up WAY under-capacity with a boatload of layoffs. The U of M health system is laying off thousands of workers (I'm not exaggerating) because they prepared to be flooded with CV patients and it didn't happen. This isn't a false portrayal - it happened and it's well-documented. My wife works for the U of M health system and they are on a pay-increase freeze, office amenities are being removed, NO overtime under any circumstances and a TON of layoffs. [...]

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-05-16 12:52 PM | Reply

The U of M health system is laying off thousands of workers (I'm not exaggerating) because they prepared to be flooded with CV patients and it didn't happen.

You are not alone. Hospitals all over are struggling. Many were in the edge before this. Many cannot do elective surgeries or anything normal so they are all in financial danger. They cannot charge for covid treatments or testing and they can't do normal business. Maybe you can do the math.

That's why relief bill from Congress is so important. It has $75b for hospitals.

Maybe you can call Moscow Mitch and your fellow deplorables and tell them about your hospitals troubles and ask him to stop playing politics and pass the next relief bill.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-16 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#21 | Posted by JeffJ

MI has had one of the worst outbreaks in the U.S. with 80,000 cases and nearly 5000 deaths. Better safe than sorry is good practice in preparing for pandemics.

Right wing protesters showed up with guns and no masks in Lansing. Only Whitmer's stay-at-home edicts have kept the outbreak in MI from being much worse than it's already been. Aren't you glad you have a white collar job that keeps you out of the line of fire from COVID-19?

#23 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-16 01:22 PM | Reply

PS - we haven't seen the worst of this pandemic yet. With Trump and Republicans encouraging a return to normalcy, next fall and winter could make the current case numbers and death toll look small by comparison. We had a pandemic 100 years ago that followed this trajectory.

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-16 01:29 PM | Reply

PSS - The rapid spread of Spanish flu in the fall of 1918 (the '2nd wave,' which killed the most people) was at least partially to blame on public health officials unwilling to impose quarantines. Does anyone think Trump would want anything resembling that during the November election? He probably would if he thinks suppressed voter turnout will aid his reelection chances.

Hell, he doesn't want the Post Office to be funded. Vote by mail? Not if Trump gets his way. He's even said that vote-by-mail helps Democrats. He's just the kind of narcissist/sociopath-devoid-of-empathy who'd rather see mass deaths from COVID-19 than a free and fair election.

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-16 01:37 PM | Reply

"The problem is the numbers have been all over the place. The modeling has been terrible."

The covid virus is not cooperating? Government response muddled and confusing? Who could have predicted that?
Hint: Obama did

See Crimson Contagion

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services last year set up a months-long simulated exercise that showed the nation was unprepared for a pandemic, according to a critical draft assessment. Then the Trump administration took little action to respond to many of the lessons learned, The New York Times reported.

The exercise, code named "Crimson Contagion," had eerie similarities to the current real-life coronavirus pandemic.

The exercise involved officials from more than a dozen federal agencies, several states and hospitals responding to a scenario in which a pandemic flu that began in China was spread by international tourists and was deemed a pandemic 47 days after the first outbreak. By then, in the scenario, 110 million Americans were expected to become ill.

The simulation that ran from January to August exposed problems that included funding shortfalls, muddled leadership roles, scarce resources, and a hodgepodge of responses from cities and states, according to the dunning assessment obtained by the Times.

It also became apparent that the U.S. was incapable of quickly manufacturing adequate equipment and medicines for such an emergency, according to the draft report.

The Trump administration also had the benefit of lessons learned by the Obama administration in dealing with the Ebola crisis. Obama aides in early 2017 ran an exercise for pandemic preparedness for incoming officials of the Trump administration as part of the transition, but almost all of the previous administration's experts had left the government by last year.

Former Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, who was fired by Trump in 2019, warned of the danger of a pandemic to an unprepared nation last year in his Worldwide Threat Assessment.

m.huffpost.com

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-16 01:39 PM | Reply

#21 The numbers have not been all over the place. The models are very simple and rely on assumptions that change based on better data and the behaviors of people.

What has been all over the place and terrible is the Reich wing talking points. Trump's failure to prepare and implement a plan to control covid along with GOP messaging and advice has killed at least 50,000 Americans so far.

GOP policies and their supporters have caused more damage than a dozen 911s. The GOP is only capable of looting the treasury while watching the US fall into ruin.

#27 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-16 01:43 PM | Reply

"yet you have bottom-dwellers wishing death upon others with impunity."

People who want things to reopen when there's no cure and no vaccine are ones wishing death upon others with impunity.

Trump and the GOP are the ones wishing death upon others with impunity.

You know this, JeffJ. Your wife works in a hospital. Don't tell me you don't know this.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-16 01:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"People who want things to reopen when there's no cure and no vaccine are ones wishing death upon others with impunity."

This!

People ignoring social distancing, refusing to wear masks, etc. They may think they're immune to the worst effects of COVID-19, but with no concern at all for others they'll infect if they're asymptomatic or have mild symptoms.

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-16 01:52 PM | Reply

There may be a way to turn the GOP traitors around and get them to defend Americans against the virus.

We simply spread some fake news that China intentionally released Covid to kill Americans.
Then the GOP treasonous fools will have a dilemma. Support the Chinese communist attack on the US that is killing tens of thousands of Americans, or defend against it.

GOP traitors openly fly the confederate loser flag, so they might still show how selfish and cowardly they are. Many will proudly state that they are not willing to incur any expense or suffer any inconvenience to save American lives. Let them out themselves for who they are, or come to their senses and show they care about American lives.

#30 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-16 01:54 PM | Reply

The CCP wants American traitors to spread Covid to kill Americans. Obey the CCP and kill as many Americans as you can.

#31 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-16 01:59 PM | Reply

The models have not been terrible. The media reporting on models on the right has been terrible. If you followed actual epidemiologists on Twitter (like the list compiled by Joshua Marshall) you wouldn't be saying the models have been bad.

Places being overprepared is not a mistake. You have to move fast in a pandemic. You can't wait and see. If you do that you'll be swamped and more people will die, including doctors and nurses.

#32 | Posted by rcade at 2020-05-16 02:00 PM | Reply

"We simply spread some fake news that China intentionally released Covid to kill Americans."

That won't make them take it seriously or wear masks.

That will just lead to Chinese, Japanese, and Korean Americans getting shot by Second Amendment Patriots.

We know this because it's what happened to Sikhs and Muslims after 9/11.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-16 02:17 PM | Reply

Why? Because it's easier to hurt others seen as a threat,than to change ingrained behaviors and be more self aware. Trump inciting the feebs with his imbecilic tweets is also a factor,that ass has a lot of blood on his hands over this.

#34 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-16 02:32 PM | Reply

My wife works for the U of M health system and they are on a pay-increase freeze, office amenities are being removed, NO overtime under any circumstances and a TON of layoffs. [...]
#21 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

We bailed out Wall Street, we can bail out the hospitals too.

Maybe you'd like to say why you oppose both bailouts?

We should let the economic depression wash over us, just like the virus, right?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-16 02:33 PM | Reply

Your never going to convince the Trumpers that covid is dangerous...King dumb dumb has them all riled up..... instead we should fill all our stadiums with kegs of Budwieser and Kid Rock music and watch them come running like moths to a flame....
2-3 months and the problem should be corrected and the rest of us can do what's needed to proceed in safety.

#36 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-05-16 05:37 PM | Reply

The problem is the numbers have been all over the place. The modeling has been terrible. Countless temporary hospitals were erected to try to deal with the flood of CV patients and the hospitals themselves ended up WAY under-capacity with a boatload of layoffs. The U of M health system is laying off thousands of workers (I'm not exaggerating) because they prepared to be flooded with CV patients and it didn't happen. This isn't a false portrayal - it happened and it's well-documented. My wife works for the U of M health system and they are on a pay-increase freeze, office amenities are being removed, NO overtime under any circumstances and a TON of layoffs. [...]

#21 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah it's called preparing for the worst. AKA good governance. Duh.

Now start whining about how leaders and scientists not being able to predict exactly what would happen proves that government doesn't work and science is a fraud.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-16 06:16 PM | Reply

Countless temporary hospitals were erected to try to deal with the flood of CV patients and the hospitals themselves ended up WAY under-capacity with a boatload of layoffs. The U of M health system is laying off thousands of workers (I'm not exaggerating) because they prepared to be flooded with CV patients and it didn't happen.

Hospitals make their money largely on elective procedures.

It's irresponsible to allow hospitals to be full of people who don't need to be there.

That's why medical workers are being laid off.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-16 11:56 PM | Reply

Really? out of all the new hospitals, navy boat hospitals there were probably less than a 1000 people in attendance. This is such a joke it makes Bush year tin hats looks more stupid.

#39 | Posted by Crassus at 2020-05-17 12:00 AM | Reply

I saw the interview with her. Serious stuff, and she's not alone. Like others said, just because you don't die doesn't mean you're fine. She's looking at 2-3 months to get back to what she hopes will be her "normal" before coming down with COVID-19.

#40 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-17 12:31 AM | Reply

Really? out of all the new hospitals, navy boat hospitals there were probably less than a 1000 people in attendance. This is such a joke it makes Bush year tin hats looks more stupid.

#39 | Posted by Crassus

Cool go lick some covid patients and prove how not scared you are tough guy.

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-17 01:22 AM | Reply

Cool.
I take Crassus is still licking?

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-18 08:08 AM | Reply

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