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Monday, May 18, 2020

It's not quite a new Cold War yet. Just the cold shoulder. Some 40% of Americans said they won't buy products from China, according to a survey of 1,012 adults conducted May 12-14 by Washington-based FTI Consulting, a business advisory firm.

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"Some 40% of Americans said they won't buy products from China"

40% obviously has no idea how naive that statement is. If you asked them, they'd probably say "I don't buy from China. I buy from Walmart! 'Murica!!"

#1 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-05-17 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

So no more Trump campaign merchandise?

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-05-17 11:44 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If you want to avoid Chinese products, check the bar code. First three numbers 690 to 699 is from the Peoples Republic of China.

#3 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-17 11:45 AM | Reply

First three numbers 690 to 699 is from the Peoples Republic of China.

That sounds like fake news.

#4 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-17 11:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 No surprise it is misleading, likely designed to hide the products made in China and sold by US companies, like Trump Cos.
www.truthorfiction.com

#5 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-17 12:05 PM | Reply

This type of polled thinking ignores the reality of global supply chains.
~35% of China feel similarly about US-company products, but will they stop buying iPhones? Stop supporting the two Disney parks in Chinese territories, or watching the movies?

Will the 65% of Americans go Luddite and disavow any devices with semiconductors?
Would be difficult to find devices with parts sourced from only Taiwan, India, US, or European semiconductor contract manufacturers.

#6 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-05-17 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#3 ... If you want to avoid Chinese products, check the bar code. First three numbers 690 to 699 is from the Peoples Republic of China. ...

Bar code prefixes are assigned based upon the country of the company that is allocated the prefix.

Bar code prefixes are not assigned based upon the country in which a product was produced.

So, a bar code within the prefixes you mention may be a product of a Chinese company that was made in the good ole United States by American workers.

GS1 is the organization that allocated bar code prefixes. Here is an excerpt from their website:

GS1 Company Prefix
www.gs1.org

...Company prefixes are based on the GS1 prefixes below. Note that since GS1 member companies can manufacture products anywhere in the world, GS1 prefixes do not identify the country of origin for a given product....
[emphasis mine]

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-17 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BS! No way they are gonna pay extra and/or do without products not even made in the US anymore.

#8 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-05-17 12:46 PM | Reply

@#8 ... No way they are gonna pay extra and/or do without products not even made in the US anymore. ...

Back when Pres Trump was starting his tariff war with China I asked a simple question...

How many Walmart shoppers would be willing to pay 25% more for the things they buy at Walmart? (25% was a number Pres Trump was throwing around for the level of tariffs he was looking to impose on US companies importing from China.)

Another question that comes to mind... if companies stop making goods in China, where else might they make those goods? With the Trump tariffs, we saw some manufacturing moving from China, but not back to the United States. Some companies stayed in Asia and just changed countries.

Of course, then the cost of the moving has to be priced into the product, and Americans wind up paying more for a product that still is not made in the United States.



#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-17 01:14 PM | Reply

I was also intrigued by the barcode discussion.

Circulating message claims that consumers can identify what country a product was manufactured in by analyzing the first 3 digits of the product's barcode.

The information in the message is misleading. While the first three digits of the product barcode may sometimes indicate where the product was manufactured, it will not always do so. The barcode prefix is not a reliable and constant method of determining a product's country of manufacture.

www.hoax-slayer.net


I hate the website name. But, it does a good job of analyzing the claim.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-17 01:39 PM | Reply

More from the link in #10.

Does the barcode number indicate the country of origin of a product?

No it doesn't. The 3-digit prefix code indicates which numbering organization has allocated the bank of numbers to the company. For example, a company may have it's headquarters in South Africa. The EAN organization in South Africa has the code "600", but all the products of the company may be manufactured in England. The English-made products would still have the "600" prefix code. The prefix code is a way to have 70-plus EAN member organizations issuing numbers without having to worry about duplicate numbers.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-17 01:42 PM | Reply

Without made in China merchandise, what would Walmart sell?

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-17 01:57 PM | Reply

@#12 ... Without made in China merchandise, what would Walmart sell? ...

Well, from the looks of some companies who reacted to Pres Trump's tariff war, "Made in Vietnam" might become the new "Made in China."



#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-17 02:05 PM | Reply

I will reduce my reliance on China in two ways. Avoiding buying goods or services produced in China is the obvious way, but what I am really focusing on is avoiding giving money (or data) to CCP owned companies. Tiktok, Zoom, Smithfields, Reddit, etc.
fortune.com

I am kinda okay with sending money to Chinese peasants for cheap stuff, but not okay with supporting one of the worst authoritarian regimes in the world.

#14 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-17 02:34 PM | Reply

@#14

Similar article, but not behind a subscription paywall...

These American companies are now owned by China?
www.federationofcredit.com

- and another -

Should We Allow the Chinese to Buy Any US Company They Want?
www.industryweek.com

- and similar -

11 American companies that are no longer American
www.businessinsider.com


#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-17 02:43 PM | Reply

Give it six months.

They'll be right back to buying the cheapest, most disposable must have item available regardless of where it's produced.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-18 01:14 AM | Reply

So much for Trumpy's fantastic momentous biggest China trade deal in the history of history.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-18 12:27 PM | Reply

You would be amazed at how many Automotive suppliers are now Chinese Owned. The move is now on in other industries as well. The switch was on before the Great Recession and now it is simply overwhelming.

Personally, I think we should adopt an "in turn" Chinese-like system for ownership by foreign investors. Since China requires controlling Chinese ownership for all companies in China, the US should require controlling interest by Americans - and put a government representative on the board as the Chinese have. The thing is they don't necessarily care about the companies themselves they are after the tech and connections.

For example - Nexteer, used to be what is left of Delphi which was AC Delco in the GM days. The Chinese bought the remnants of Delphi during the great Recession. It is interesting to see what they did. There were some very old very good machines in the main plant for making hydraulic power steering systems. Those were all scrapped and/or moved to China. The Chinese have always struggled with making quality ball bearings... Last I heard the stuff they were sending back to the US after several years of Chinese production STILL does not pass inspection but it is going on all your GM HD trucks and some other products. (I believe some Cadillacs and Vettes...)

Another prime example is that of Johnson Controls. They used to be a top 7 Automotive supplier but have exited the business entirely. Sales were in the area of $22 Billion in Automotive. They sold their Automotive Interior Business (once know as Prince) to Yanfeng Automotive Trim Systems. Yanfeng is now the number one undisputed automotive interior supplier in the world. Indeed not everything has gone to China. For example Johnson's other two divisions in Automotive - Adient bought their automotive seat business (Irish company). Their other major Automotive segment was batteries and that went to Brookfield Business Partners - a "Bermuda" company.

I could go on and on about this subject but the bottom line is I think we should deal with foreign investors as they deal with us. If there is one thing Trump did right it was going after China trade. However he was weak and we may be worse off than before because of it.

#18 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-05-18 01:27 PM | Reply

While the rest of the world is trying to not buy American, thanks to Trump. Do you see how these things hurt us? Don't vote con kids. Vote lib.

#19 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-18 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#19 | Posted by BruceBanner

While I agree the global impression of America is VERY tarnished at this time I don't know how that truly affects our products. Everywhere I have been people see American products as representing quality. I am sure it does hurt though...

#20 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-05-18 05:45 PM | Reply

The big corporations didn't get us into this outsourcing disaster overnight and we son't get out of it overnight either. I think we should start with the pharmaceutical industry. We need the drugs people's lives depend on to be made here. Today, we import nearly all the drugs people depend on while still paying high prices that only benefit pharmaceutical companies. I suggest a tax deductible tariff on every imported drug so that we can punish the drug manufacturers without costing consumers anything.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-19 09:40 AM | Reply

Don't worry everyone!

The Trumps will still manufacture all of their products, like plastic straws, in China!

#22 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-19 11:36 AM | Reply

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