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Monday, May 18, 2020

Texas reported 1,801 new COVID-19 infections on Saturday " the highest single-day increase in COVID-19 cases in the state so far. Gov. Greg Abbott said he expected the number of positive cases to continue to rise as the state plans to increase the amount of testing in "most high-risk areas: nursing homes, meatpacking plants, and jails."

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"Gov. Greg Abbott said he expected the number of positive cases to continue to rise"

^
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-17 06:17 PM | Reply

"Gov. Greg Abbott said he expected the number of positive cases to continue to rise"

He went on to state that some of you are volunteering to die for the economy, whether you want to or not.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-17 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Shocking.

The question is going to boil down to one simply viewpoint-how many deaths are too many.

I'm betting Chreestian 'Murica will stomach far more death than we thought possible so long as their worship of the all mighty dollar can continue.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-18 01:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He's adopted Fat Nixon's rationale.... more testing = more cases as if they didn't exist before you knew about it.

how many deaths are too many.

The GOP makes it painfully clear that the lives of the working class are meaningless and must be sacrificed to keep the Dow rising and dividend checks flowing to the top. The dupes that live paycheck to paycheck and cannot get through to intentionally dysfunctional unemployment systems are all to eager to risk spreading the disease to keep the gears of the economy greased while GOP mega donors get millions and billions in COVID bailouts.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-05-18 08:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Texas hotspots are not the facilities for the elderly but instead the bedroom communities adjacent to DFW, Austin, Houston and San Antonio bearing the brunt. YEEHAW! Texass where they want folks to die to further the economy.

#5 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-05-18 11:34 AM | Reply

SURPRISE - SURPRISE: They reopened the state TWO WEEKS ago.

OCU

#6 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-05-18 12:03 PM | Reply

You go Texas.

Show us how it's done.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-18 12:10 PM | Reply

You go Texas.
Show us how it's done.

#7 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY "

We are.

There have been 1,336 deaths since this thing started. That is about 1:22,000 per capita. That's total. There have been that many in the last two days in NY.

California has had 3,261 which is about 1:12,000 per capita.

So yes, that's how it's done. You're welcome!

Oh, and that spike that has you guys getting excited? That's exactly what it was. A spike. It plunged this past weekend.

www.google.com

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2020-05-18 12:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A spike. It plunged this past weekend.

#8 | Posted by goatman at 2020-05-18 12:28 PM

There's a two-week lag in stats for COVID.

Yeah, I know. The implications for opening up in Texas last weekend are beyond you.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:31 PM | Reply

#8 That's actually a pretty low death rate. I wonder if it relates to the population density in Texas? Or how warm it is there compared to other places in Feb-Mar? Either way, interesting.

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-18 12:36 PM | Reply

Zed, you give stock tips? I'd love to counter trade you and make a fortune.

#11 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-05-18 12:41 PM | Reply

I don't know the reasons, Joe. Population density would explain the huge disparity between Texas and NYC, but not necessarily California. Texas has 5 of the top 15 largest cities. California has 4.

Maybe it is the weather, but this year's summer season is starting off cool. It did get to 95 here in San Antonio yesterday, though.

#12 | Posted by goatman at 2020-05-18 12:43 PM | Reply

Zed, you give stock tips?

#11 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

COVID death stats lag two weeks behind.

If you don't like it, take it up with the virus.

Be sure to let us know what it said.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:46 PM | Reply

"There's a two-week lag in stats for COVID.

#9 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-05-18 12:31 PM "

So the headline to this thread and teaser are meaningless. We'll have to wait two weeks to know the stats for Saturday.

Thanks for explaining that, CraZed.

#14 | Posted by goatman at 2020-05-18 12:48 PM | Reply

Thanks for explaining that, CraZed.

#14 | Posted by goatman at

Thanks for plonking me.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:49 PM | Reply

Thanks for explaining that

#14 | Posted by goatman at

I don't think I bother explaining things to you anymore.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:50 PM | Reply

Shocking.

The question is going to boil down to one simply viewpoint-how many deaths are too many.

I'm betting Chreestian 'Murica will stomach far more death than we thought possible so long as their worship of the all mighty dollar can continue.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-18 01:16 AM

Mammon is pleased.

#17 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2020-05-18 01:04 PM | Reply

I don't know the reasons, Joe. Population density would explain the huge disparity between Texas and NYC, but not necessarily California. Texas has 5 of the top 15 largest cities. California has 4.
Maybe it is the weather, but this year's summer season is starting off cool. It did get to 95 here in San Antonio yesterday, though.

#12 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

While we have 5 of the largest cities, their aren't extremely dense.

Dallas is the only one that breaks the top 15. And frankly we aren't that dense.

Texas only has one area with a density of over 10,000 people per square mile. California has 33. And we won't mention New York which is just a huge cluster of 10,000 to 100,000 per square mile in New York City.

#18 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-18 03:32 PM | Reply

I don't know the reasons, Joe. Population density would explain the huge disparity between Texas and NYC, but not necessarily California. Texas has 5 of the top 15 largest cities. California has 4.
Maybe it is the weather, but this year's summer season is starting off cool. It did get to 95 here in San Antonio yesterday, though.

#12 | POSTED BY GOATMAN

While we have 5 of the largest cities, their aren't extremely dense.

Dallas is the only one that breaks the top 15. And frankly we aren't that dense.

Texas only has one area with a density of over 10,000 people per square mile. California has 33. And we won't mention New York which is just a huge cluster of 10,000 to 100,000 per square mile in New York City.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-18 03:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sorry for the double post.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-18 03:32 PM | Reply

Obviously Texans are much more susceptible to plague than everyone else. Could be all the fracking..

#21 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-05-18 10:04 PM | Reply

What happened to all those deaths caused by the SEASONAL FLU, you know, that killed over 60,000 including 115 pediatric deaths in the 2017-2018 flu season? Maybe there was no seasonal influenza A or influenza B deaths? Let that sink in and see if you still are naive enough to believe the claims of the media maggots of nearly 100,000 deaths from COVID-19. "NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE". Now where have we heard that before? REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...... AND VOTE WISELY....

#22 | Posted by bumpkin44 at 2020-05-19 07:41 AM | Reply

#22 - the deaths from influenza are still happening. You can pile all these on top of those. BTW picking the worst year for influenza deaths in 10 years during a COVID pandemic to make a "point" that is irrelevant is sick.

Influenza deaths for the last 10 years ranged from 12,000-61,000. 61,000 was for the year you cited, and was an outlier. The average for the other years is 34,000. It should also be noted that the number you cited has a qualification: * Estimates from the 2017-2018 and 2018-2019 seasons are preliminary and may change as data are finalized.

www.cdc.gov

So we're looking at 100,000 COVID 19 deaths, plus those we'll lose to influenza. We've known that from the start - and that's one of the reasons for flattening the curve.

You've missed the entire point and now are making claims about what's known and happening as if it was some great revelation, all the while managing to draw the wrong conclusion.

#23 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-19 07:58 AM | Reply

Sometime the cure is worse than the disease. Let's just say Texas is taking the Swedish model. And if you had read the actual statements by our governor, there are many restrictions still in effect.

#24 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-19 09:50 AM | Reply

COVID-19 reporting in Texass is suspect.

#25 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-05-19 10:06 AM | Reply

Let's just say Texas is taking the Swedish model.

#24 | Posted by docnjo

Allowing more people to die.

#26 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-19 10:19 AM | Reply

COVID-19 reporting in Texass is suspect.

#25 | Posted by getoffmedz

I'm afraid so. As Republicans Trump and Kemp have modeled, the idea is to make the facts fit policy rather than drive policy.

Both lie and are preparing to lie about COVID. The Texas governor is part of their gang.

#27 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-19 10:22 AM | Reply

Sometime the cure is worse than the disease.

#24 | Posted by docnjo at

Those who get sick won't agree.

That's their problem, yes?

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-19 10:23 AM | Reply

#28 | Posted by Zed So putting 10 million people in poverty won't cause people to die? Protect the most vulnerable, practice some common sense social distancing and most importantly you don't have the option in Texas to continue a total lock it down. Texans are notorious for not doing what someone forces them to do. We do not lay down before self appointed authority, no mater how benign.

#29 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-19 11:28 AM | Reply

#28 | Posted by Zed So putting 10 million people in poverty won't cause people to die? Protect the most vulnerable, practice some common sense social distancing and most importantly you don't have the option in Texas to continue a total lock it down. Texans are notorious for not doing what someone forces them to do. We do not lay down before self appointed authority, no mater how benign.

#29 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

No. We did a pretty good job overall actually. Dallas was in lock down before and after the Governor's order. Living in downtown Dallas, I can tell you the vast vast majority of people obeyed it.

In fact, even after allowing some places to open, some restaurants are still not opening yet and instead taking the hit to protect their workers and customers.

You'll see some of the crazies ignore it. But the backlash seems to be huge.

#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-19 11:43 AM | Reply

Texans are notorious for not doing what someone forces them to do. We do not lay down before self appointed authority, no mater how benign.

#29 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-05-19 11:28 AM | Reply

I'm a Texan. But thanks for the sermon.

"Protect the most vulnerable"

After Trump, there's no reason to believe that Republicans care about the vulnerable.

The vulnerable are already dying. This trend is ongoing, and in Texas.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-19 11:59 AM | Reply

What happened to all those deaths caused by the SEASONAL FLU, you know, that killed over 60,000 including 115 pediatric deaths in the 2017-2018 flu season? Maybe there was no seasonal influenza A or influenza B deaths? Let that sink in and see if you still are naive enough to believe the claims of the media maggots of nearly 100,000 deaths from COVID-19. "NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE". Now where have we heard that before? REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER...... AND VOTE WISELY....

#22 | POSTED BY BUMPKIN44

It's literally the opposite of what you are saying.

Flu Deaths are still being counted. The CDC estimate this year was 24,000 dead from the Flu. And there was a spike in flu cases in April according to the CDC.

But we don't count Coronavirus deaths like Flu deaths. The Flu death numbers are estimated, not actually reported. The reported deaths are 4-6 times lower than estimates.

2017-2018 Flu Season Reported Flu Deaths: 15,620
2017-2018 Flu Season CDC estimates of Flu Deaths: 61,000

2020 Reported Coronavirus Deaths: 90,000
2020 Coronavirus Estimated Deaths: None provided by the CDC

The issue is we have tens of thousands of deaths right now more than usual that we aren't attributing to anything including Coronavirus. New Jersey alone could have twice the death count if the remainder of unexplained deaths are even partially thought to be Coronavirus.

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-19 12:01 PM | Reply

Texans are notorious for not doing what someone forces them to do.

#29 | Posted by docnjo

I've conceptualized the problem of COVID as one of discipline, not freedom.

I've conceptualized the Republican notion of freedom in the Age of COVID as being the right to die of flu-like symptoms.

#33 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-19 12:27 PM | Reply

"We do not lay down before self appointed authority, no mater how benign."

So the government in Texas wasn't voted in but self appointed? Good to know.

#34 | Posted by dibblda at 2020-05-19 04:18 PM | Reply

Comparing the yearly deaths of seasonal flu to COVID19 deaths is ridiculous when you consider that COVID19 has only been with us for a few months but then Trump supporters are so desperate to somehow minimize the toll COVID19 is taking due to his negligence. When I read posts like BUMPKIN's I just feel sad that anyone would be that sychophantic as to attempt to defuse the blame Trump richly deserves.

#35 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-20 08:03 AM | Reply

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