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Monday, May 18, 2020

Despite Wednesday's blockbuster news about the dozens of Obama-administration officials who "unmasked" then-incoming Trump national security advisor Michael Flynn, there remains a gaping hole in the story: Where is the record showing who unmasked Flynn in connection with his fateful conversation with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak?

There isn't one.

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Let's see....

Obama admin spied on AP reporters? Check

Intrusively spied on Fox reporter James Rosen? Check

Intrusively spied on Sharyll Attkisson? Probably, but not proven

Spied on members of the House and Senate? Check

Unlawfully obtained FISA warrants to spy on Carter Page and the Trump administration? Check

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The usual suspects scream this is all conspiracy nonsense yet the track-record is already there and my short list is far from being all-inclusive.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-05-18 10:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

"I suspect that's because General Flynn's identity was not "masked" in the first place. Instead, his December 29 call with Kislyak was likely intercepted under an intelligence program not subject to the masking rules, probably by the CIA or a friendly foreign spy service acting in a nod-and-wink arrangement with our intelligence community."

Doing the end-around...when lying to FISA takes too long. You know, there have to be some OG cold war spies who are reading all this and thinking, "holy crap, Obama was borrowing tactics from the Soviets".

#2 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-05-18 10:04 AM | Reply

Why is JeffJ defending Flynn? Did Flynn get accused of raping someone that I am unaware of?

#3 | Posted by blackheartsun at 2020-05-18 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Why is JeffJ defending Flynn?

#3 | Posted by blackheartsun

Flynn being innocent is seen by Trumpites as the key to proving Donald Trump has been a good man all along, though only Trumpites could see it.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 11:26 AM | Reply

The usual suspects scream this is all conspiracy nonsense

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020

What can we say, JEFF? Trump loves himself some conspiracy nonsense and no sane person thinks we've seen the end of his (and your) creativity approaching November.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 11:28 AM | Reply

What can we say, JEFF? Trump loves himself some conspiracy nonsense and no sane person thinks we've seen the end of his (and your) creativity approaching November.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 11:28 AM | Reply | Flag

Thank you for this look back at "conspiracy theory" charges because the left is always honest about "conspiracy theories." ( sarcasm )

"The great story here, for anybody willing to find it and write about it and explain it, is this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring against my husband since the day he announced for president,"

Hillary Clinton, 1998
NBC"S TODAY show.

#6 | Posted by rhet at 2020-05-18 11:53 AM | Reply

#6 Oooo! Oooo! Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! What about "Russian Collusion"?!

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-05-18 11:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#6 | Posted by rhet

Donald Trump is actively engaged in an ongoing conspiracy to develop personally helpful conspiracy theories.

People like you conspire to help him.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:05 PM | Reply

What about "Russian Collusion"?!

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-05-18 11:59 AM | Rep

Well let's look at comments from some of the people who were there. Then you make up your own mind.

"I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting [or] conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election, " James Clapper.

"I am not in possession of anything - I am not in possession and didn't read or absorb information that came from out of the intelligence community," Samantha Power. When asked if she had any evidence of collusion.

"I don't recall intelligence that I would consider evidence," Susan Rice.

"[I do] not recall that being briefed up to me," Loretta Lynch.
When asked if she saw collusion evidence.

"As it relates to the DNC, we have indicators that the data was exfiltrated. We did not have concrete evidence," Shawn Henry, Crowdstrike CEO. He later admitted that they had only circumstantial evidence that the Russians were involved.

#9 | Posted by rhet at 2020-05-18 12:05 PM | Reply

People like you conspire to help him.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:05 PM | Repl

Nice reach, but you've come up empty.

#10 | Posted by rhet at 2020-05-18 12:06 PM | Reply

GOP wants us to focus on Russia, but when it comes to Flynn, it is important to keep in mind both his and his son's ties to Turkey:

Here's what Michael Flynn has admitted

A federal judge suggested during a sentencing hearing Tuesday that Michael Flynn, President Trump's former national security adviser and a retired three-star general, sold out his country.

The big picture: Flynn, who requested his sentencing be delayed until his cooperation with special counsel Robert Mueller is complete, pleaded guilty last year to lying to the FBI in January 2017 about the nature of his conversations with then-Russian ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak. When he pleaded guilty, he also admitted that some of his lobbying work was done on behalf of the Turkish government, which he had long denied.

On Monday, Mueller's office released redacted notes of the FBI's interview with Flynn, revealing what exactly the former national security adviser lied about.

Flynn told the FBI that in his conversations with Kislyak during the presidential transition, he did not attempt to influence Russia's vote on a UN Security Council resolution concerning Israeli settlements. He admitted in his charging document in Mueller's case that a senior member of the Trump transition team directed him to contact Kislyak to learn where Russia stood and urge them to vote against the resolution.

Flynn also told the FBI that he did not ask Kislyak to refrain from escalating tensions in response to steps taken by Barack Obama over Moscow's election meddling, which included expelling alleged Russian spies and closing two Russian diplomatic compounds in the U.S. Flynn later admitted that, acting on behalf of a senior member of Trump's transition team, he contacted Kislyak to ask that Russia show restraint. Vladimir Putin ultimately elected not to escalate the situation, a move Trump called "very smart."

Though he admitted to violating lobbying laws by failing to register as a foreign agent on behalf of Turkey for hundreds of thousands of dollars of consulting work, Flynn was not charged for those crimes and has attempted to receive leniency from the Mueller investigation by offering extensive cooperation. Two of his former business associates have now been indicted for their work on Turkey.

On Election Day in 2016, Flynn wrote an op-ed in The Hill criticizing cleric Fethullah Gulen, an enemy of Turkey's president living in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania, as a "radical Islamist" and "shady Islamic mullah." The Wall Street Journal later reported that Flynn and his son twice met with Turkish representatives to discuss kidnapping Gulen and forcibly extraditing him to Turkey.


www.axios.com

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-18 12:21 PM | Reply

Turkey is considered an ally and is a member of NATO.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-05-18 12:24 PM | Reply

Now do Joe and Hunter Biden's ties to Ukraine and China.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2020-05-18 12:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And what's with all this Flynn worship anyway? The guy is a loose cannon, which is why Obama warned Trump about him and why when Christie led the transaction team, he wasn't pro-Flynn:

Woolsey: Flynn sought personal control over CIA reporting

Days after Donald Trump's stunning election victory, Michael Flynn phoned former CIA Director James Woolsey about taking another stint as head of the spy agency in the new administration, but then added a condition, Woolsey said.

Flynn said the CIA director "would be expected to report to him," not the president, Woolsey told McClatchy in a phone interview. Woolsey, who led the CIA in the first two years of the Clinton administration, said he promptly rejected the offer because there are times that he would need to "call on the president face to face."

Flynn's alleged maneuver with Woolsey, seemingly aimed at consolidating his control, could cause consternation now that more is known about the retired three-star Army general. At the time of his approach to Woolsey, Flynn's Virginia-based consulting firm had been paid over $500,000 to secretly represent a Dutch company led by a Turkish businessman with ties to the Ankara government.


Read more here: www.mcclatchydc.com

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-18 12:28 PM | Reply

"Turkey is considered an ally and is a member of NATO.

Now do Joe and Hunter Biden's ties to Ukraine and China."

Wake me up when Joe and Hunter Biden make plans to kidnap and extradite an enemy of China's president living in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania? Honestly, Jeff, you are smarter and better than this. At least I thought you were.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-18 12:31 PM | Reply

#9 But, but...Mr. Rhet! That's not what CNN and MSNBC and PBS and every damnable DNC skunt was saying!! They said is was COLLUSION!!

#16 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2020-05-18 12:32 PM | Reply

Honestly, Jeff, you are smarter and better than this. At least I thought you were.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020

JEFF died at some point.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm still interested in asking the entity that supplanted JEFF why it loves Donald Trump? Alas, the demon only speaks when it can profane.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:38 PM | Reply

People like you conspire to help him.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:05 PM | Repl

Nice reach, but you've come up empty.

#10 | Posted by rhet at 2020

We'll see if there's anything, anything at all, that Trump claims you won't support.

It will make a nice experiment.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-18 12:41 PM | Reply

JEFF died at some point.
#17 | POSTED BY ZED

His brain had to in order for him to be able to support Trump.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-18 07:36 PM | Reply

"Flynn Was Not Masked in the First Place"

I have linked to this article several times in recent days:

A threshold question first: There is good reason to think the declassified NSA list of officials who requested unmasking is completely disconnected from the intercepted call between Kislyak and Flynn on Dec. 29. As Marcy Wheeler and Ben Wittes have explained, the intercepted call appears to be an FBI"not an NSA"product. That would stand to reason if Kislyak (the actual target of the surveillance) was in the United States at the time (thanks to Asha Rangappa for raising this important point). [Update: The Washington Post confirms the summary of the Dec. 29 call was an FBI, not an NSA, product which openly included Flynn's name " and thus there would be no reason for officials to request an unmasking from the NSA.]

www.justsecurity.org

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-18 09:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How many secret calls did Flynn make to his Russian and Turkish clients, then lie about them?

Flynn is a traitor, same with his defenders.

#22 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-19 01:06 AM | Reply

"We'll see if there's anything, anything at all, that Trump claims you won't support."

It might be fun to hold a Trump loyalty contest where the contestants would have to agree to support increasingly immoral and/or even dangerous policies of Trump. The one who can support the most immoral, dangerous policy would win and get a free MAGA hat. And I do expect that Jeff would rise from the dead to prove his allegiance to the Fuehrer.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-20 10:35 AM | Reply

FFS Danni just when we think you could not post something more stupider than your last post, you do.

#24 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-20 11:20 AM | Reply

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