Advertisement

Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Thursday, May 21, 2020

An analysis of state reported coronavirus cases and those reported by the CDC for states during that same time period show extreme differences. WLRN looked into Florida, the state that has the most extreme difference in CDC vs state reporting. "Asked about the discrepancy, the CDC told WLRN that it is lumping together antibody tests along with tests for active COVID-19 infections, in an apparent conflation of its own antibody testing definitions ... Even if traces of COVID-19 are found in an antibody test, those results are not logged by states or by the CDC as "positive" results for an acute infection. Grouping the two together could make it seem that a smaller percentage of people who have received tests are positive with COVID-19, since antibody tests do not measure acute infections at all." WLRN notes that an archived CDC website page from last week notes that the CDC did not include antibody tests.

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

Consistent delivery of bad data has been a feature of the CDC throughout this process.

#1 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-05-21 03:26 PM | Reply

The data may be bad, but the decision to muddy the waters is deliberate.

It's kind of like how Deplorables deny global warming is even a thing, because they say the data is bad.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 03:32 PM | Reply

Consistent delivery of bad data has been a feature of the CDC throughout this process.

#1 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at

Donald Trump is the Chief Executive responsible for the CDC.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-21 03:36 PM | Reply

He's not responsible for anything, he's just in charge.

#4 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-05-21 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The data may be bad, but the decision to muddy the waters is deliberate.

Of course. You can't justify any of this authoritarian nonsense if they were delivering quality consistent data.

Donald Trump is the Chief Executive responsible for the CDC.

Donald Trump is also doing a bad job. Anything else, simpleton?

#5 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-05-21 04:11 PM | Reply

DJT has been messing with the CDC. It's been politicized. One has to go into the data to find the truth. If the market loses trust in the CDC, we're in bigger trouble.

#6 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-21 04:13 PM | Reply

@5 ... You can't justify any of this authoritarian nonsense if they were delivering quality consistent data. ...

Quite the contrary, there is consistent data available, just not data that Pres Trump (or some Republican governors) controls.

That consistent data shows that the social distancing, the lockdowns and other mitigation procedures are quite warranted.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-21 04:30 PM | Reply

Of course. You can't justify any of this authoritarian nonsense if they were delivering quality consistent data.
#5 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

What "authoritarian nonsense" are you referring to?
???

Trump seizing PPE shipments intended for the States?

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 04:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Of course. You can't justify any of this authoritarian nonsense if they were delivering quality consistent data.

Actually, quality consistent data would likely justify the measures taken by showing they've worked.

It would also make it unnecessary to have the same policies in place for everywhere at the same time.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-21 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#8 ... Trump seizing PPE shipments intended for the States? ...

I had forgotten about that egregious practice.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-21 04:47 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is also doing a bad job. Anything else, simpleton?

#5 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020

Yes, actually. Are you voting for Biden in November?

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-21 04:57 PM | Reply

Yes, actually. Are you voting for Biden in November?

Not a chance in ----.

#12 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-05-21 05:30 PM | Reply

What "authoritarian nonsense" are you referring to?
???

Trump seizing PPE shipments intended for the States?

I don't know what state you live in. I live in Michigan, and it's been nothing but authoritarian nonsense.

#13 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-05-21 05:34 PM | Reply

Actually, quality consistent data would likely justify the measures taken by showing they've worked.

Or they don't work any better than what Sweden and Japan did.

It would also make it unnecessary to have the same policies in place for everywhere at the same time.

I completely agree with this.

#14 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2020-05-21 05:37 PM | Reply

"Or they don't work any better than what Sweden and Japan did."

False.
Lockdowns work.
It's pretty much the only thing that works.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 05:40 PM | Reply

"Are you voting for Biden in November?"

Not a chance in ----.

#12 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

Why vote for the man doing what you said was a bad job?

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-21 05:56 PM | Reply

He's one of those "Enlightened Centrists."

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 06:02 PM | Reply

"I don't know what state you live in."

California.

Not seeing much in the way of nonsense coming out of Sacramento on this one.

Just simple and prudent measures intended to save lives.

Tell us, does the double yellow on the highway take half your freedom away?

How about wearing clothes in public, feeling the boot on your throat over that one?

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 06:06 PM | Reply

I don't know what state you live in. I live in Michigan, and it's been nothing but authoritarian nonsense.
#13 | POSTED BY BEN_BERKKAKE

You won't be happy until your state is more like Florida or Georgia: crashing so badly that you have to lie about the numbers to even look like anything short of a nightmare.

#19 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-21 06:25 PM | Reply

@#13 ... I live in Michigan, and it's been nothing but authoritarian nonsense. ...

What I see from Michigan's state government is appropriate mitigation procedures.

The only nonsense I see in the state are those demonstrating (without social distancing, btw) because they can't get a haircut.

Maybe you need to be a bit more specific on what you call authoritarian nonsense.


#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-21 07:06 PM | Reply

I don't know what state you live in. I live in Michigan, and it's been nothing but authoritarian nonsense.

#13 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

Even with the 'authoritarian nonsense' measures taken Michigan has had over 50,000 cases and 5,000 deaths.

Without the measures Whitmer put in place those numbers would be much worse.

And now the man you support is threatening to withhold COVID-19 funding over MI allowing people to vote safely by mail.

Like Trump does.

#21 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-21 07:24 PM | Reply

Maybe you need to be a bit more specific on what you call authoritarian nonsense.
#20 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Ben doesn't discuss.
He does spray and pray drive-bys.

He kinda seemed like a sensible guy before Obama, but Obama's win blew a circuit breaker which still hasn't been reset.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 07:38 PM | Reply

Anti-lockdown protesters in US state of Michigan hold 'Operation Haircut'
www.france24.com

...After mass rallies featuring armed protesters, those angry over the restrictive anti-virus lockdown in the US state of Michigan launched "Operation Haircut" Wednesday, with barbers using their scissors and clippers outside the state capitol. ...

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-21 10:08 PM | Reply

6.6 billion doesn't buy the top top flight talent it should. Even if we doubled it, they still wouldn't know how to run a study and report statistics properly. Isn't that how it's done? When a government agency massively screws up the answer is it give it more money.

#24 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-05-22 05:39 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2020 World Readable

Drudge Retort