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Friday, May 22, 2020

Senator Amy Klobuchar, Democrat of Minnesota, has been asked by Joe Biden to undergo a formal vetting to be considered as his vice presidential running mate, one of several potential contenders now being scrutinized by his aides ahead of a final decision, according to people familiar with the moves.

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On the issues, Klobuchar is the most like Biden. If elected, she'd be the front runner in 2024 since Biden has pledged to serve one term. She could be the 1st woman president.

#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-05-21 04:56 PM | Reply

With Klobuchar, Biden could have Pennsylvania and Michigan with not much more work. She can also bring the Midwest. Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and, of course, Minnesota. Then he'll need Arizona.

#2 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-05-21 05:01 PM | Reply

She can also bring the Midwest. Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and, of course, Minnesota.

Can she really "bring" those places? I'd argue that most people outside Minnesota don't even know who she is. I live in Wisconsin and most people who don't closely follow politics would probably say "who?" if you mentioned her name, and we're right next door. Very far fetched to claim she will bring in Ohio and Pennsylvania

#3 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-21 05:06 PM | Reply

I think she's great and she isn't easy to bully. I think it would be a good choice.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-21 05:10 PM | Reply

Biden has already announced that his team is vetting up to 12 VP candidates. Amy is simply one of them.

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-21 05:29 PM | Reply

We choose truth over facts!
- Demented Joebama

#6 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-05-21 05:31 PM | Reply

"And I tested very positively in another sense. So this morning. I tested positively toward negative, right? So no, I tested perfectly this morning. Meaning I tested negative. But that's a way of saying it. Positively toward the negative."

Orange Julius Caesar

See how that works GA?

#7 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-21 05:34 PM | Reply

Noooo! Not Klobo! She's killing my will to vote. Biden is such a corporate tool. I may have to stay home after all. I'll join the other 100,000,000 People who can't be bothered.

#8 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-21 06:55 PM | Reply

#3

You're right. Hundreds of thousands dead and 35 million unemployed will have a far greater effect.

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-05-21 07:12 PM | Reply

#5

Joe Biden's VP Search Is Turning Into an Open Audition

nymag.com

But the close-readers' consensus is that the nearest Biden's gotten to tipping his hand may have been on a video call with supporters one Wednesday afternoon in early April. Roughly 50 high-powered backers, including Norman Lear, Dee Dee Myers, and a former ambassador to Germany looked on as Biden thanked Harris for her support. "The idea, Kamala, that you ran a ---- of a race and endorsed me " it means a lot. It's not an easy thing to do, but, you know, thanks for making the time and for being so loyal," he said. "And I'm so lucky to have you as part of this, this partnership going forward, because I think we're going together we can make a " we can make a great deal of difference, and the biggest thing we can do is make Donald Trump a one-term president. So I'm coming for you, kid."

#10 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-05-21 07:16 PM | Reply

Huge mistake. And my fiance is from Minnesota.

Still, huge mistake.

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-21 07:22 PM | Reply

Amy is simply one of them.
#5 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

12 vetting slots for hundreds of qualified individuals. She doesn't deserve consideration, IMO.

#12 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-21 07:23 PM | Reply

I may have to stay home after all.
#8 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

You're so brave!
Teach me how to be strong like you.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 07:39 PM | Reply

"fiance"

Rsty did you put off the wedding until 2022? Might be the best move.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-21 07:44 PM | Reply

Rsty did you put off the wedding until 2022? Might be the best move.
#14 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Not sure how long, but it's definitely delayed. I'm just glad we didn't have any actual plans laid out with deposits in place. We'd be a nervous wreck right now.

But living the married life anyways, all thanks to COVID.

#15 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-21 07:51 PM | Reply

RSTYBEACH11

A friend posted this on Facebook. We don't have this problem here, and I'm sure you don't either at your house either, but it's funny!

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#16 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-21 07:58 PM | Reply

#16 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

That's awesome. Gonna use it liberally.

#17 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-21 08:05 PM | Reply

#15 I have a niece living that nightmare. Wedding was to be last month. Deposits on venue, food & beverage, flowers, DJ, wedding planner, etc. all in limbo. The catering company has closed their doors. The venue is refusing to rebook future dates. Sorry your big day has been postponed, but in these times consider it a financial blessing.

#18 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-21 08:22 PM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

That's truly heartbreaking, GRACIE. I hope they are happy. Crossing my fingers for a grand-niece ;)

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-21 09:07 PM | Reply

#18 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

My sister is getting married in November.

Despite my telling her that that's a likely no go, she's stuck on the "but what if it was November and everything is fine...then I'll have postponed for nothing" mentality.

Oh well. Not my money or time.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-21 09:56 PM | Reply

Biden's vice president shortlist emerges, as Demings says she's being vetted

Biden has said he expects the vetting process to take five to eight weeks, which would point to an announcement occurring no sooner than July.

www.nbcnews.com

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-21 10:17 PM | Reply

Biden's vice president shortlist emerges, as Demings says she's being vetted

Biden has said he expects the vetting process to take five to eight weeks, which would point to an announcement occurring no sooner than July.

www.nbcnews.com

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-21 10:17 PM | Reply

Biden's vice president shortlist emerges, as Demings says she's being vetted

Seems a little too patronizing...

A black woman (hits the right points for the left) but with little experience, name recognition or clout.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-21 10:22 PM | Reply

Demings questioning during the impeachment proceedings earned her notice and high marks:

Val Demings' rise makes her a viable running mate for Joe Biden | Editorial

We don't formally endorse vice presidential nominees. But if Biden spins the VP wheel in July, our hope is the ball lands on the name that would give Biden the best chance of defeating Trump.

On that count, Demings has a lot of things going for her. The most obvious is she's from Florida. Its 29 electoral votes are crucial to any campaign.

Florida has backed the winner in 13 of the past 14 presidential elections. Trump won by about 120,000 votes in 2016.

www.orlandosentinel.com

Val Demings, possible Biden running mate, rips VP Mike Pence ahead of Orlando visit

www.miamiherald.com

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-21 10:37 PM | Reply

VP vetting is nothing more than the nominee touching all the bases so that no constituency in the coalition they're trying to build feels slighted while all of them can feel they were serious contenders (and their issues really matter to the nominee) when in reality only 2 or 3 ever are.

Of course opinions are like... you know, I think Biden's choice will come down to two.

Can't tell you who that is but I can tell you it won't be Elizabeth Warren. Regardless of having two 70-somethings on the ticket, Massachusetts has a Republican governor who would name her replacement and making sure Democrats control the Senate due to RBG alone is probably even more impactful than electing Biden. So she's definitely out and she knows. It's not personal, it's vital. She has to stay in her seat.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-21 10:45 PM | Reply

#25

And as we saw after Teddy Kennedy's untimely death, Dems winning the special election is not a shoe-in in MA. Imagine how different Obama's first term would have gone if the Dems had kept 60 votes in the Senate all the way through 2010.

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-21 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Frankly, I am watching Mr Biden's VP selection process.

I remember the scene from the TV show "West Wing" well. Someone asked Pres Bartlett why he chose a particular person as his VP.

Pres Bartlett wrote on a piece of paper four words. "Because I might die."

Fortunately, Pres Trump has not set the bar too high in the VP department.

#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-21 11:03 PM | Reply

Tammy. Duckworth.

fin.

#28 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-05-22 02:47 AM | Reply

Biden chooses Klobuchar for VP.

They win.

Biden serves one term. Drops out. Klobuchar runs as president picks Buttigieg for VP.

All this is hypocritical of course.

But. It would explain Klobuchar and Buttigieg suddenly dropping out from the primaries.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-22 03:14 AM | Reply

Actually, Hillary Clinton would have the most foreign policy experience. And she certainly wouldn't need any training wheels should something happen to Joe Biden.

It would take one ---- of a sales pitch but if the best interests of the country was the only criteria, Hillary Clinton would be the only logical choice.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-22 05:20 AM | Reply

#28 Agreed, but I think the Dems are probably too stupid to do it,

#31 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-22 10:07 AM | Reply

U.S. Sen. Tammy Duckworth to interview soon for Joe Biden's VP pick, Dick Durbin says

www.chicagotribune.com

For American security, Tammy Duckworth is the pick for Biden

taskandpurpose.com

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-22 10:18 AM | Reply

U.S. Sen. Tammy Duckworth to interview soon for Joe Biden's VP pick, Dick Durbin says

www.chicagotribune.com

For American security, Tammy Duckworth is the pick for Biden

taskandpurpose.com

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-22 10:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why am I suddenly getting all these double posts?!?

#34 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-22 10:19 AM | Reply

#30 Dumb, why would anyone want to go there? That ----- is toxic. She would cost Biden the election just by being on the ticket.

Millions of people hate her guts. Trump beat her already, he would again. It's just a backdoor way to try to run her as president again. Get over her,she's done. Her political life has ended.

We need new blood, not stale old LOSERS.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-22 12:03 PM | Reply

if the best interests of the country was the only criteria, Hillary Clinton would be the only logical choice.

If you think more status quo capitalism is in the best interests of the country, I'd have to respectfully disagree.

#36 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-22 12:39 PM | Reply

Why am I suddenly getting all these double posts?!?
#34 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Because you are posting GOLD! :)

Let me tell you. If you've got Tammy Duckworth by your side, it's a winning combination whoever you are. She is such an amazing person," Durbin said Friday. "What a story. What a life story, what a story of courage and her comeback from this massive injury she suffered in service to our country is an inspiration."

#37 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-05-22 01:18 PM | Reply

Agreed, but I think the Dems are probably too stupid to do it,
#31 | POSTED BY JOE

I worry that me thinking Sen. Duckworth being a great VP candidate for Biden will end up similar to my 2016 thoughts of Corey Booker being a great VP possibility for HRC: disappointment ._.

#38 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-05-22 01:20 PM | Reply

EFFETE

"Dumb, why would anyone want to go there? That ----- is toxic. She would cost Biden the election just by being on the ticket.
Millions of people hate her guts. Trump beat her already, he would again. It's just a backdoor way to try to run her as president again. Get over her,she's done. Her political life has ended.
We need new blood, not stale old LOSERS."

LOL

She's a professional, just like Joe Biden, who knows every leader in the world by their first name.

But it ain't gonna happen. Sorry to scare the bejeebes out of you. You can come out from under your bed now.

#39 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-22 01:32 PM | Reply

BTW Effete

I was wondering when someone was going to make you blow your cover. I'm glad it was me.

#40 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-22 01:38 PM | Reply

#40 There's no cover. I've never hidden my loathing of all things Clinton. They are corrupt repub lite ashholes. Bill was worse than Hillary. My posting history is absolutely clear, I've never tried to hide anything about my abject hatred of them.

Why you or anyone would want to replay 2016 when it was obvious that ANYONE but Hillary would have thrashed Trump is another matter.

Biden is a weak enough candidate already without adding that shrew to the mix.

We need new young people as candidates not corrupt dinosaurs.

#41 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-22 02:05 PM | Reply

Joe Biden 'You ain't black' if you don't vote for me'

#42 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-05-22 02:28 PM | Reply

I would prefer Warren or Harris for VP. But then I would prefer Warren, Harris, Klobichar, Booker, or Budigege (sp)?to Biden for Prez.

#43 | Posted by lduvall at 2020-05-23 03:40 AM | Reply

"If you think more status quo capitalism is in the best interests of the country, I'd have to respectfully disagree."

I think most voters would feel that more status quo capitalism is what's best for the country.

#44 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-05-23 04:55 AM | Reply

#44 The thing about the status quo is that most people are for it until they're against it.

Meaning that, when a few connected people start taking the social product disproportionately to their numbers and actual contribution people tend to notice over time. This combined with outside stresses on the system,like the pandemic,can lead to rapid social change. Once unthinkable alternatives are suddenly quite thinkable. The black death destroyed the fuedal system and opened up previously closed societies.

The pandemic, by undermining crony capitalism, may bring about great and unforeseeable changes to our economic and social way of life.

UBI,once unthinkable, is not quite so any more.Other less obvious but even deeper changes may be coming.

Don't be so sure that the status quo will survive this. More people hate it than you realize.

#45 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-23 10:44 AM | Reply

"Don't be so sure that the status quo will survive this. More people hate it than you realize."

OK.

At the end of the day, those that create the wealth must be willing to share it before anything changes. It's relatively easy to stop people from becoming rich. It's almost impossible to redistribute wealth from those who created to those who didn't, unless they're willing to continue wealth creation, even if it doesn't benefit them.

#46 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-05-23 12:03 PM | Reply

Who's creating it? The people who buy their products; not the producers of those products.The producers would rapidly go under if there was no demand for what they are selling.

If the military budget was cut to the bone. Lockheed Martin and Raytheon would shrink proportionately. No demand,no wealth creation.

Demand in this country is strongly controlled by government policy. The automobile culture would probably have never gotten off the ground without strong federal subsidies in the form of road building and tax incentives. Other means of transportation were actively hamstrung by policy.

The government already picks winners and losers. Who gets tax incentives, who gets government contracts. Policy affects the markets more than free choice by consumers.

Low capital gains taxes encourage speculation on the financial markets. Not many companies really produce goods in this country any more. That also was not free market based it came about though policies that pushed companies to seek the lowest cost labor and the weakest environmental protections. All of these outcome were created by the legal frameworks imposed by government.

Different laws would have resulted in different outcomes. In Germany companies cannot compete on price,only on quality. Thank s is seemigly less free,but kept a strong manufacturing bas in the country. Outsourcing is far less of a problem there. Their strong labor laws have kept wages and benefits high. The average person makes more there then here.

The CEOS make less. This is not the free market. This is government policies.

We have chosen a different,more Exploitative path. But it is not free market based. It is a conscious decision by policymakers to screw the average person in favor of rich ashholes.

This must change.

#47 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-23 12:59 PM | Reply

#47

So then what would be your suggesting as to how to make the markets freer, if doing so would alleviate some of this issues you've brought up.

And it's interesting that your mentioned Germany. They have restrictions on labor that are far more draconian than anything Trump has introduced. I have a co-worker who's husband has worked for a German company for years. He does all of his training in Germany. But he can't get a job here. Those jobs are reserved for German citizens. I'm not saying that's a bad thing-or a good thing, but it's the result of a well thought out policy that favors Germans over others.

#48 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-05-24 04:13 AM | Reply

Can't believe people here think HC is a good vp pick. She would tank any ticket. Worst possible pick there is. Biden would mysteriously end up dead. He isn't that stupid.

#49 | Posted by byrdman at 2020-05-24 09:38 AM | Reply

Free markets are a myth. The freest market's are drug cartels. They enforce market share by murder and extortion. Not a good idea in a law abiding society.

Ultimately,wealth is created by DEMAND. If there was no demand for cocaine the cartels would not exist. Legal frameworks are all that keep the markets for all essentials from being like the cartels. Therefore we should try to make the legal frameworks as fair and conducive to general prosperity as possible.

This is just what we have not done here in the US. We pick winners and losers. Antitrust laws are gutted and ignored. Tax breaks are given by crony relationships and not by a fair and honest decisions.

Congress has been totally corrupt for decades. Term limits would help. No more than two terms in the Senate,six terms in the house. Lifetime bans on former members.

Capital gains taxes should be high enough to squeeze out the speculators,as well as being a good source of revenue. Trading taxes would be a good way to accomplish the same ends.

#50 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-24 11:21 AM | Reply

#50 we have term limits already, vote there asses out. I want Kirsten Sinema representing me for as long as possible

#51 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-05-24 12:14 PM | Reply

I think most voters would feel that more status quo capitalism is what's best for the country.

Most voters are stupid. Most voters per the electoral college thought Donald Trump would be a good president. If argumentum ad populum (a logical fallacy) is your only argument you might want to sit this one out.

#52 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-24 12:45 PM | Reply

The longer they're in the more they tend to think they "own" that seat. Term limits would limit their ability to game the system. Incumbents get arrogant and self entitled.

Anything they are going to get accomplished,they should be able to do in twelve years. Term limits force turnover, this is a good thing. They are less beholden to moneyed interests if they can't run again.

#53 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-24 12:55 PM | Reply

Term limits

No no no

Let's not turn it into a looks good on my resume thing. There are people there who are doing things for the right reasons

Can't name one but you know what I mean
Mitch McComell that sorry sack represents the great state of Kentucky.we have term limits, when you've

had enough vote
the guy out

#54 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-05-24 01:52 PM | Reply

Term limits

No no no

Let's not turn it into a looks good on my resume thing. There are people there who are doing things for the right reasons

Can't name one but you know what I mean
Mitch McComell that sorry sack represents the great state of Kentucky.we have term limits, when you've

had enough vote
the guy out

#55 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-05-24 01:52 PM | Reply

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