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Friday, May 22, 2020

A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a "game changer" in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not. People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

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The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups " a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic " the cocktail endorsed by Trump " there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Those given chloroquine had a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 256 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias. For those taking chloroquine and an antibiotic, there was a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 301 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Cardiologist Steven Nissen of the Cleveland Clinic said the new data, combined with data from smaller previous studies, suggests that the drug "is maybe harmful and that no one should be taking it outside of a clinical trial."

At this point, I just wish Trump would say that regardless of the anecdotal evidence that he's heard, the experts' recommendations against taking this drug cocktail - outside of clinical settings under the strict control of doctors constantly monitoring the results - should be listened to if/until counter results are proven in other studies.

Will he? I have little faith that he will. He'll likely quadruple down and likely cause scores of Americans to do just what this study says that they shouldn't do. Remember the days when the cliche that listening to Trump's advice might kill you was just a deprecating joke?

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-22 09:44 AM | Reply

This Trump idiocy needs to end now.

#2 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-22 09:45 AM | Reply

I submit that it is precisely because it causes sickness and death that Trump supports it.

The American public is absolutely going to have to get more sophisticated about human character.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-22 09:45 AM | Reply

This Trump idiocy needs to end now.

#1 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-22 0

Wish it would. We'd have fewer dead Americans.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-22 09:49 AM | Reply

Let me explain it to you:

Trump the sociopath loves nothing more than jerking other people around. The crueler the chain he jerks with, the more powerful he feels. Making people sick, or allowing them to get sick (COVID), and seeing them die is the ultimate power rush.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-22 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"What have you got to lose?"

When my friend's mom was in the hospital for Covid, his brother, having heard Trump and Fox shows touting it, wanted to have her put on the drug, so his sister asked the doctor over the phone about the possibility. The doctor said he didn't know if it would help, but it probably wouldn't hurt either. I said, no, no, no. Please promise me you'll speak to her cardiologist (she had a history of heart problems) before you agree to put her on it.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-22 09:52 AM | Reply

Stop the ----- show:

- 1 in 11 patients in the control group died

- 1 in 6 patients treated with chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine alone died

- 1 in 5 treated with chloroquine and an antibiotic died

- 1 in 4 treated with hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic died

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#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-22 10:05 AM | Reply

#3

Zed in this case I feel like that is more of an ancillary benefit in Trump's mind than his primary motivation. Laura Ingraham took one of her snake-oil doctors to talk to Trump early on, and this reportedly was the start of his fixation with the drug cocktail. I have no doubt that Trump is taking the drug, likely at very low dosages while his cardiac vitals are checked every day in the White House. It would be criminal negligence if the WH doctor didn't perform intensive oversight with all the negatives of the drugs being right out front in the public's full view.

Not to mention the financial aspects tied to the drug's distribution as well. When Trump says it isn't about the money, it's always about the money. Lastly, Trump really wants to be able to tout the drug as a miracle cure that he gets credit for delivering that saved the day. Any effective therapeutics at this point would change the trajectory of our response to the virus. If drugs could successfully treat it, then the risk of opening the old economy would be more acceptable to the public at large.

But as usual, Trump has rolled snake eyes. The main problem with that is we're the ones who will suffer from his own insolence and narcissism. He's got the best testing, tracing, and isolation capabilities in the nation. We've got bupkis.

#8 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-05-22 10:05 AM | Reply

So, it Trump going to dismiss this study as another "enemy statement"?

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-22 10:08 AM | Reply

#3 - that put it in direct terms, Gal. Thank you.

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-22 10:15 AM | Reply

Trump and the GOP want to kill old Americans, especially black Americans, to reduce SS and Medicare expenses.

A spoonful of Chloroxoquine helps the deficit go down, the deficit go down...

#11 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-22 10:19 AM | Reply

I submit that it is precisely because it causes sickness and death that Trump supports it.

It could also be due to the fact that he holds a financial interest in a company that produces the drug, and he is incapable of getting out of huckster mode.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2020-05-22 10:49 AM | Reply

Has anyone ever considered the possibility that he's just a -----------? And can't admit to being one. So he doubles down on whatever he's pushing at the time. Like sharpie gate.

#13 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-22 11:53 AM | Reply

I might have a solution here. Buy the prescription, thereby making tweety happy, but don't eat the pills, thereby making your family and your cardiologist happy.

#14 | Posted by contrecoup at 2020-05-22 11:59 AM | Reply

Definitely a huckster, definitely a BS-er, definitely can't admit a mistake, almost certainly is benefiting financially (or people close to him are), might be lying about taking it, and definitely will ignore, and probably criticize, this study. His adoring fans are already on Twitter claiming the study is a joke, fatally flawed, all lies, etc.

#15 | Posted by cbob at 2020-05-22 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump just can't be fallible. He's always right. Even the weather has to be changed if he says something stupid.

#16 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-05-22 12:29 PM | Reply

From what I read, Dotard's financial interest in the company is not enough to support killing people. He's doing this for three reasosn. First, one of his major donors is a big investor in a company that makes the drug. Second, he has no idea how to manage this crisis, he's desperate to be reelected and knows the economy and cheating are the only two cards he has to play, so he has been relying on magical thinking. Third, he heard good things about it from Laura Ingraham and like a lot of old people, he trusts what he hears on Faux more than he trusts the experts.

#17 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-05-22 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A game changer, all right. In the game of life...

#18 | Posted by catdog at 2020-05-22 12:56 PM | Reply

It changes the game because you can say they died of the drug and not the disease.

#19 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-05-22 12:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is fake news. Note; all you TRump supporter go on ahead and eat as much of that stuff as you can. You just know you want to.

#20 | Posted by tknees at 2020-05-23 04:10 PM | Reply

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