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Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, May 24, 2020

After revealing that Sunday's New York Times would not feature an image on the front page, but would instead list the names of COVID-19 fatalities, the newspaper was praised online. "U.S. deaths near 100,000, an incalculable loss," the headline read above six columns of names. "They were not simply names on a list. They were us," reads the subhead.

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Screw 'em...I ain't wearin' no damned mask.

#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-24 10:48 AM | Reply

Fake news.

Obviously.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-24 10:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

A powerful message. I hope someone can run this out to Trump's golf cart.

#3 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 10:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I hope someone can run this out to Trump's golf cart."

You don't really think he'd give a ---, do you?

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-24 11:02 AM | Reply

If someone didn't tell him, would they be in trouble?

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 11:04 AM | Reply

I hope the story lead with or ended with compliments of Andrew Cuomo.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-24 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

That is a lot of crisis actors. Where did the DNC come up with that sort of moo-la?

#7 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2020-05-24 11:10 AM | Reply

Heck of Hoax Dems.

Heck of a hoax.

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-24 11:12 AM | Reply

Does Trump know or not know about how many are dead and will die upon opening, without a bailout of the American citizen?

#9 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 11:15 AM | Reply

Headlines Should say "victims of Trump" or "Trumps body count".

#10 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-05-24 11:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump made every decision directly or indirectly.

#11 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 11:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

100k dead per every 2 million infections =?

330/2 * 100,000 =?

#12 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 11:38 AM | Reply

@#6 ... I hope the story lead with or ended with compliments of Andrew Cuomo. ...

Both Gov Cuomo and Pres Trump got off to a slow start. However, Pres Trump being at the federal level, he should have been more aware of the pending crisis, especially since his agencies briefed him about it. Gov Cuomo had no access to the Presidential Daily Briefings.

That aside...

How they changed their actions once the severity of the pandemic became evident is quite telling.

Gov Cuomo took the NY government into crisis mode, holding daily, informative press briefings (which were not all happy talk), and acted appropriately to help the people of New York State.

Pres Trump, on the other hand, went into re-election mode, tried to hid numbers that would diminish his re-election chances, offered contradictory messaging from one day to the next, encouraged those who were not following the federal guideline to continue to not follow those guidelines, held daily press briefings that were so disastrous that his fellow Republicans were begging him to stop holding those press briefings.

So yes, they both got off to a bad start.

Gov Cuomo released his mistake and acted accordingly.

Pres Trump never realized his mistake, indeed, made more of them, and is continuing to make grave mistakes as he focuses more on his re-election campaign than on the health of Americans.

What is Gov Cuomo's approval rating of late? What is Pres Trump's approval rating of late? While approval ratings are not the full picture, they do tell a lot.


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-24 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This has a 99% survival rate unless you are old..

Why are they posting that?

#14 | Posted by boaz at 2020-05-24 11:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#14 No. That's a lie. Now that you know it's a lie, stop posting that lie. It will make people take chances they shouldn't, harming others.

#15 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 11:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#13 Tell that to the families that lost loved ones in nursing homes in NY because of him. The GOV was busy pretending his brother is running a SNL take off on CNN and making guest appearances. The Q-Tip comedy was a pathetic slap in the face of all New Yorkers.

#16 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-24 11:54 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

This has a 99% survival rate unless you are old.
#14 | POSTED BY BOAZ

FLAG: Supports decreasing the surplus population.

#17 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-05-24 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#16 ... Tell that to the families that lost loved ones in nursing homes in NY because of him. ...

As I said a couple comments back, and have said many times in the past, Gov Cuomo got off to a bad start. I do not deny that, indeed, I have stated as much.

However, once Gov Cuomo realized the nature of the crisis we were facing, he changed how he acted. Significantly.

Unfortunately, Pres Trump didn't, indeed, Pres Trump is still in denial mode (now trying to paint the deaths as being over-counted) because he is more concerned about his re-election campaign than he is about the health of Americans.


So I'll ask again...

What is Gov Cuomo's approval rating of late? I'll give you a hint, back when I last checked (end of April) it was well over 70%.


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-24 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This has a 99% survival rate unless you are old..
#14 | POSTED BY BOAZ

And besides, there's folks dying of cancer and heart attacks because the hospitals are busy helping the Covid victims "survive".

#19 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-05-24 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Comparing death numbers for this year vs last year is the correct number. Nothing else matters.

#20 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The racist orange turd's transition to greatness' includes a hundred thousand dead and forty million out of work. MAGA!!!

#21 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-05-24 12:38 PM | Reply

This has a 99% survival rate unless you are old..
Why are they posting that?

#14 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Boaz is saying he is fine with 3 million Americans being dead (1% of the population) because of the ineptitude of conservatives in responding to this crisis?

#winning???

#22 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-05-24 12:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Four Americans die in Benghazi, and conservatives think it is a national travesty that should destroy the Obama administration.

100,000 Americans die due to conservative lies, ineptitude, and lack of leadership and they say "not our fault, let's go for 3 million".

Pathetic.

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-05-24 12:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Even after Trump allows 100,000 Americans to die due to his inaction.

You have Gracie, who wants to blame local government.

And Boaz, who's pissed off these dead Americans are making Trump look bad.

You two have zero respect for the dead or Americans.

You're shht human beings and so are the rest of your Trumpublican brethren who couldn't care any less about Trump's pandemic death toll.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-24 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Thousands of deaths are on Trumps hands, all for the sake of his vanity.

#25 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-05-24 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#23 | Posted by gtbritishskull

1000x newsworthy.

#26 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-24 01:39 PM | Reply

#24 | Posted by ClownShack

10,000x newsworthy.

#27 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-24 01:40 PM | Reply

NYC Times Square getting busier:
www.earthcam.com

#28 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-05-24 01:42 PM | Reply

Woudn't take much to make it "busier" than it was. Nice to see everyone wearing masks.

#29 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-24 01:44 PM | Reply

Don't forget the long term debilitating injuries that up to 20% of the survivors have.

Covid is at least 10 times more dangerous than the flu.

#30 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-24 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Don't forget the long term debilitating injuries that up to 20% of the survivors have.
#30 | POSTED BY BORED

Hey, that's the price of freedom. What you you? A Commie?

#31 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-05-24 02:19 PM | Reply

The irony is that many Republicans have become so detached from the tragedy which is unfolding with the pandemic that many of them view this front page listing in the NYT as more of a slam at President Trump than as an appropriate landmarking of a scary moment in American history.

#32 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-05-24 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most of the liberals here are literally pissed that Florida isnt as bad as projected.

#33 | Posted by boaz at 2020-05-24 02:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#14 No. That's a lie. Now that you know it's a lie, stop posting that lie.

It's not a lie. So I know it's a "lie" just because liberal bruce banner told me it was?

No, it's not a lie.

#34 | Posted by boaz at 2020-05-24 02:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

My Mayor and Governor did an awesome job handling COVID19. National Guard command staff from all over the USA flew to Jacksonville and now model how we handled the testing sites in their cities/states. All and I mean ALL of the media's hate and hype, doom and gloom, never happened here, Thankfully. I give that a WOOMP WOOMP!

#35 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-24 02:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#33 | Posted by boaz

You're just an ass. There's just no other explanation for this level of malicious dishonesty.

#36 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-24 03:30 PM | Reply

Most of the liberals here are literally pissed that Florida isnt as bad as projected.
#33 | POSTED BY BOAZ

First off, you can't be "literally pissed" unless you're urinating on some one (or getting urinated on, not really sure what "literally pissed" means other than it would involve urination).

Second, no one except members of the American Death Cult revels or is happy with folks dying from this no matter what our personal opinions are.

Third, it's more likely that DeSantis is fudging the numbers. I'd like to see the total death count this year as compared to the avg.

#37 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-05-24 04:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

167 000 americans dead and president donald is out golfing? why can't you libs see the bright side?
-bonuts and grace

#38 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-24 04:48 PM | Reply

99% survival rate?

Reported U.S. deaths divided by reported U.S. cases = 6%

Simple math.

#39 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-24 04:52 PM | Reply

Simple math.

Now try it with Vern's Calculator...

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-24 05:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Simple math.

Now try it with Vern's Calculator...

#40 | Posted by REDIAL

What happened to him? Was he kidnapped by Chinese fishermen to be used as slave labor?

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-24 06:14 PM | Reply

What happened to him?

I'm not sure. He just went away and the world became a better place.

#42 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-24 06:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm not sure. He just went away and the world became a better place.

#42 | Posted by REDIAL

What a weird dude he is. I'm going with 'he was kidnapped as a slave by Chinese fishermen' :-)

#43 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-24 06:22 PM | Reply

This has a 99% survival rate unless you are old.
#14 | POSTED BY BOAZ

So let's say half of America gets it, and then herd immunity starts to kick in.
That puts the death toll right around one point five million.
Which is nicely in line with the 1.1 to 2.2 million estimate from the Imperial College Report.

Someday it may occur to you that Trump could have done more to stop this.
But I doubt it ever will.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-24 06:25 PM | Reply

I'm sure he'll be back soon... they have some seats to fill.

#45 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-24 06:26 PM | Reply

Florida
Confirmed Cases
50,127
+676

Deaths
2,233
+43

We'll see what the relaxing measures results in in a couple of weeks.

After reports of fudged numbers (to make them look better) it's hard to take numbers out of Florida at face value.

#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-24 06:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most of the liberals here are literally pissed that Florida isnt as bad as projected.

#33 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Most conservatives want to ignore 100,00 dead Americans.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-24 10:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

North Korea has not reported a single case. They are truly the Gold Standard.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-05-24 10:30 PM | Reply

The 8000 daily deaths from all other causes were also us.

#49 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2020-05-24 11:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

North Korea

#48 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Funny thing about North Korea. You can drag on them for being willing to die for the dear leader.

That's an actual thing.

A living being.

Occupies space.

A noun.

Americans are willing to die for imaginary numbers and the cheesecake factory.

Wonder what that's like...

#50 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-05-24 11:03 PM | Reply

My Mayor and Governor did an awesome job handling COVID19. National Guard command staff from all over the USA flew to Jacksonville and now model how we handled the testing sites in their cities/states. All and I mean ALL of the media's hate and hype, doom and gloom, never happened here, Thankfully. I give that a WOOMP WOOMP!

#35 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

You literally just posted an article from Slate saying it has nothing to do with the Governor or National Guard work, is not doing as well as it should, and the numbers are likely being manipulated.

Gracie's Article: slate.com

The National Guard work came only after the outbreak started getting serious and after DeSantis refused to release numbers to his own legislature and health officials.

From your article on the DR Front Page:
"Thankfully, Floridians started taking the pandemic seriously before they were told to do so. As state officials dithered, the residents of the hardest-hit counties began staying home in mid-March."

"Still, it's not as if DeSantis acted quickly. The Miami Herald reported Wednesday that the state concealed its knowledge of the looming threat early on, and as new probable cases began piling up, the health department refused to release information about testing even to local hospitals and state senators. If nursing homes were spared some worse fate, it would also have something to do with those facilities' own decisions. Earlier in May, some nursing home administrators told the Herald and the Tampa Bay Times that they had adopted protective measures more than a month before DeSantis ordered them. The state testing efforts, they said, were "great but way too late," and the lack of available tests early on had made it impossible to stop outbreaks."

Not the brightest, are you?

#51 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-25 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"My Mayor and Governor did an awesome job handling COVID19. National Guard command staff from all over the USA flew to Jacksonville and now model how we handled the testing sites in their cities/states."

I don't know anything about your mayor but our Governor allowed Spring Breakers to jam the beaches when experts were saying that was a crazy thing to do, the big amusement parks in Orlando were packed, cruise ships were loaded and some were like floating petry dishes. Our governor served the interests of those who make money off of tourism and ignored public safety and many people died because and carried the virus back home with them to infect many, many more people. Now he wants to hide the numbers, I started out in this pandemic trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, he did not deserve it. He is a TRump ass kissing sychophant and nothing more. Did you run out to church this morning?
I notice the Mormon Tempmle near me is still using virtual gatherings so as to protect their members, I have more respect for them today than I did before the pandemic.

#52 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-25 03:27 PM | Reply

Most of the liberals here are literally pissed that Florida isnt as bad as projected.

#33 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Get your nose rubbed in one lie so you respond with another.

Is it still not clear to you why you're treated the way you are and why we don't care that you and the other whiners took your pathetic ball and stomped home?

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-25 07:55 PM | Reply

Looks like 6% dying. With reopening, that number will go up. Not sure how much, but 6 percent of 330 million is about 20 million.

Say we guess 3 million cases instead of 1.68 million. That's assuming we have nearly twice the infections and we're not aware of them. 167000 more dead this year than last year. That's 5.5 percent. 5.5 percent of 330 million is 18 million.

Correct me, please.

#54 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-25 11:30 PM | Reply

The 8000 daily deaths from all other causes were also us.

#49 | POSTED BY GREATAMERICAN

Is that ok by you? Are you bragging about the failures of capitalism?

It's not ok by me. We could do better. We could do much better. Instead we are doing worse.

You must be so Proud. Boy.

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-26 10:52 AM | Reply

No, it's not a lie.

#34 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Then it is misinformation. For which you should be held accountable.

You have also been shown that it is not true.

And if you are aware that it is not true then it is a lie.

And coming from you this is not surprising at all.

Because you seem to lie a lot.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-26 03:38 PM | Reply

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