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Tuesday, May 26, 2020

While hotels across the world are struggling to keep the lights on, the cruise industry is already planning for initial trips to depart in several weeks.

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Cruise industry doesn't pay American taxes, doesn't hire Americans. F the cruise industry. Let them go bankrupt, I just don't care. I took on week long cruise in my life. VEry mediocre food, boring entertainment, plenty of opportunities to piss away money in casinos but I can piss away just as much right here at home but I don't. I don't gamble. Cruise industry can disappear and it won't change my life an iota. I just don't care, they give nothing back to our community. I never thought I would say this but professional sports is a much bigger giver to S. Florida than is the cruise industry.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-26 08:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

How the hell they got their greedy grubby mits in American Taxpayer's pockets is IMHO the biggest mystery in the Bailout budget.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2020-05-26 03:28 PM | Reply

"How the hell they got their greedy grubby mits in American Taxpayer's pockets is IMHO the biggest mystery in the Bailout budget.>

Come on ows, we know how they did it. It isn't a mystery. They paid for the influence they needed to do it and our illustrious Congress took the bribes and gave them what they wanted.
This country needs a hard fast law that lobbyists are illegal [...]

#3 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-26 08:59 PM | Reply

#1 - Some one did not hook up

#4 | Posted by Spork at 2020-05-26 11:57 PM | Reply

There is no way anybody will take a cruise if they aren't within sight of the coast the entire time.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2020-05-27 02:38 AM | Reply

#3

Hyper-partisan nut.

See e.g., First Amendment.

See also, murder statutes.

See also, accessory statutes.

#6 | Posted by et_al at 2020-05-27 02:59 AM | Reply

"There is no way anybody will take a cruise if they aren't within sight of the coast the entire time."

#5 | POSTED BY TOR

I wouldn't get on a cruise ship if it was docked in port. I know too much about their maintenance (or lack of) priorities.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-27 03:14 AM | Reply

#5 I did. Took a 9 month cruise to westpac. Got paid for it as well. (although not paid a lot)

#8 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2020-05-27 03:17 AM | Reply

"See also, murder statutes."

There's an easy fix for that.
Put the lobbyists on a cruise.
US nurder statues don't apply on a cruise ship on the high seas outside US jurisdiction; it would devolve to whatever flag the ship is flying.
And I don't think Liberia is going to care if some US lobbyists get thrown overboard.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 04:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

SNOOFY

Good Point.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-27 04:13 AM | Reply

"Yes...voting by mail is a stupid idea."

What Snoofy said makes perfect sense. These industries do nothing for America, people fly into the airport, ride in a bus to the ship, go on their cruise, take another bus back to the airport and fly home.
I've known one person in all my years of living in S. Florida that made a living aboard cruise ships but then he was not an American.
Cruise industry is just takers, not part of our community. If we lost them we wouldn't lose anything of value to us. Sure Micky Arinson would lose but then he gave up his American citizenship and became an Israeli. I may have exaggerated about killing them but ridding ourselves of them no. They do nothing for us. Parasites.
And I actually have known businesses that dealt with them, they don't pay and you can't sue them because they aren't registered in the United States. They rip off American businesses all the time.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-27 06:49 AM | Reply

Quite honestly I doubt that the linked article is even true. With the people who have been stranded aboard during the past few months I honestly don't believe very many people want to be aboard cruise ships. I wouldn't go on a cruise even if it was free. No thank you.
Perhaps eventually some trust will be rebuilt but I do not believe it will be any time soon.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-27 08:46 AM | Reply

Took a 9 month cruise to westpac. Got paid for it as well. (although not paid a lot)
#8 | POSTED BY CHARLIECHARLES

Different type of cruise ;)

#13 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-05-27 09:15 AM | Reply

Cruise industry is just takers, not part of our community.

#11 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-05-27 06:49 AM | FLAG:

They are though. Carnival alone provides 5000 jobs to Port Everglades and more to ancillary service industries, and is a major economic lifeline to the islands we include in our hegemony.

Most ships are flagged to Panama. In America its to hire foreign labor. In Europe its to dodge taxes.

There's only 1 cruise ship in the entire world that can sail from US port to US port thanks to the PVSA. It's owned by Norweigans. Normally "American" lines will run to Alaska via Vancouver, and Hawaii via Ensenada, because they're not legally allowed to leave from an American port. Yay regulations.. from the 1880s...

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-05-27 10:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg

I don't know about the truth in the last bit but spot on with the rest. And frankly there aren't a lot of Americans willing to make the sacrifices cruise ship crews do.

And frankly people DO stay locally when take cruises - not all of them for sure but plenty do. My Mother and her cousin always take a day in town. Not that either of them are getting on a Cruise ship for at least another year. I think they looked at booking one in October 2021. I think that is still pushing it for them.

#15 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-05-27 11:03 AM | Reply

Imagine the people who would even consider going on a cruise right now, and then imagine being stuck on a ship with them. No thanks.

#16 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-05-27 04:38 PM | Reply

I spoke with a couple who may have been the last people on America's West Coast to take an International Cruise.

To put it simply theu said what they had done was a terrible mistake and they will never do it again.

#17 | Posted by Tor at 2020-05-27 10:55 PM | Reply

#15 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE AT 2020-05-27 11:03 AM | REPLY

We're stuck with regulations from the late 1880s lol. Remember they had to waive the Jones Act for PR to get supplies to it quickly? Jones Act is cargo. PVSA is for humans but is just a giant ball of useless red tape.

"These same round trips may include another U.S. port provided they call at a foreign port (any non-U.S. port will do) during the cruise. This means cruises from Florida ports may stop at Key West if they return passengers to the same port they embarked at and stop in at least one foreign port (such as the Bahamas or Jamaica) during the cruise.

The second exception to the law allows a ship to pick passengers up in one U.S. port, but drop them off in a different U.S. port, but only after visiting a distant foreign port, defined as being outside of North America, Central America, Bermuda and the West Indies, including the Bahamas, but excluding the former Netherlands Antilles islands of Aruba, Bonaire and Curacao (ABC Islands). That means that a Panama Canal cruise from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles must stop in a South American port -- often Cartagena, to avoid a violation.

The requirement to include a distant port (beyond North America) is the reason that one-way Alaska cruises between Seattle and any Alaskan port are not legal for the foreign-flagged ships of the mainstream cruise lines. It is OK for those cruises to begin or end in a Canadian port because there is no restriction on transporting passengers between a foreign port and a U.S. port."

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-05-28 07:15 AM | Reply

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