Advertisement

Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, May 27, 2020

Ted Anthony: The fraught, freighted number of this particular American moment is a round one brimming with zeroes: 100,000. A hundred thousands. A thousand hundreds. Five thousand score. More than 8,000 dozen. All dead.

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

A terrible tragedy, made worse by the fact that it was largely avoidable.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2020-05-26 01:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1 | Posted by qcp

That you think it is a tragedy and was largely avoidable makes you a Liberal.

Sorry "Cons". You've chosen the bloody side of this issue, like your Satanic Master. So let the deaths continue, as you and It have assured that it will.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-26 01:24 PM | Reply

How many US COVID deaths by the Republican Convention? Which Trump seems adamant making responsible for more.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-26 01:36 PM | Reply

Remember when we had a President who just did his job without patting himself of the back all the time?

#4 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-27 08:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I heard a newspaper writer say yesterday that they can't write the obituaries fast enough. They are selecting them to represent all the categories of the dying. She says it's harder to write obituaries for the 12 year olds than the 70 year olds because they didn't get the chance to live their lives.

#5 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-27 12:34 PM | Reply

One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong.

Japan Population: 126,000 million
Japan COVID-19 Deaths: 862

South Korea Population: 56 million
South Korea COVID-19 Deaths: 269

US Population: 328 million
COVID-19 Deaths: 100,000 at least

Pop Quiz:

1. Which country refused early testing and contact tracing on the advice of Jared Kushner because it might hurt the economy?

2. Which country does not have universal free health care?

3. Which country is run by the incredibly inept Trump Crime Family?

#6 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-05-27 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Roughly speaking... for every 4 people who recover 1 person dies. That means the death rate for COVID19 after detection is 20% or thereabouts... Feel free to do the math.

So much winning.

Leaving office in disgrace.

#7 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-05-27 12:47 PM | Reply

Sad.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2020-05-27 12:47 PM | Reply

But, but--he made a speech on Memorial Day. And took Hydroxycodone for two weeks! And all that tweeting, which takes a lot of sacrifice! Not to mention not seeing the inside of a McDonald's store in who know how long. And signing those pandemic bills, passing legislation--that's work. The president cares. He really does...
-GOP apologists watching their re-election chances start to swirl around the drain

#9 | Posted by catdog at 2020-05-27 12:50 PM | Reply

Good job boys, I knew we could do it.... Have a cigar.... Putin lost the bet.

-----trump-----

#10 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-05-27 01:21 PM | Reply

Impeachment didn't remove it from office.

Let's see if this will...

#11 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-05-27 01:36 PM | Reply

Womp womp!

It's just the flu.

Now watch this shot.

Nice huh? Now get back to work.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-27 01:40 PM | Reply

Remember when we had a president that didn't make Dr. Fauci famous because that president did what the doctor said?

#13 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-05-27 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Impeachment didn't remove it from office.

Let's see if this will...

#14 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-05-27 02:14 PM | Reply

It's just the flu.

#12 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

This is my favorite bit of drooler logic.

They always want to let you know that 50,000 people die from the flu every year.

100,000+ people have died from this in the last 70ish days, double what the flu kills every 365 days.

So, yeah.

Exactly the same.

#15 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-05-27 02:39 PM | Reply

Womp womp.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 03:01 PM | Reply

It is difficult for many liberals to separate their horror at the number of deaths caused by the Corona Virus from their manifest joy that it is all happening on Trump's watch and he has done an incompetent wretched shop at responding to it.

It reminds me of the Iraq war under GWB. Many liberals were horrified at the number of US soldier deaths, but also happy about how bad it made GWB look. I remember it clearly. I even had a close friend who felt deeply troubled about those mixed emotions. We so badly wanted the lie and deception of GWB's invasion of Iraq to be demonstrated as the political disaster it was that on one level we almost felt bittersweet vindication as the death toll of American soldiers rose higher.

It as if our political goal are coincidentally aided by Trump's competence.

#17 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-05-27 03:20 PM | Reply

Reminds me of an old joke except the name of the Scotsman has been changed to:

"Trump The Golfer"

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 03:41 PM | Reply

Roughly speaking... for every 4 people who recover 1 person dies. That means the death rate for COVID19 after detection is 20% or thereabouts... Feel free to do the math.

Are you saying that there is a 20% mortality rate?

#19 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 03:46 PM | Reply

There would have been at least 30k more if not for our stable genius...

Not a day goes by that I wish I wasn't such a Hillary hater 4 years ago... Had no idea he would be guilty of everything he accused her and others of...

On a side note- wife and I think he wont wear a mask because it would mess up his orange makeup-

:P

#20 | Posted by Jimbob43 at 2020-05-27 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That means the death rate for COVID19 after detection is 20% or thereabouts... Feel free to do the math.

You people really want people to die just because you hate Trump..Stop putting out bogus data out there..

U.S. COVID-19 death rate is 1.3%, study finds..

medicalxpress.com

#21 | Posted by boaz at 2020-05-27 03:53 PM | Reply

CDC has actually said it is around 0.4% and this all depends on age.

#22 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 03:55 PM | Reply

Let's recap:

In January, it was something happening elsewhere.
In February, it was under control, and completely contained.
In early March, it was just the Flu, and the liberal reaction was not only hyperbolic, but also a hoax to make DJT look bad. We had only 15 cases, soon to be zero.
A couple of weeks later, everyone who wanted a test could get one. A beautiful, beautiful test. Millions of tests. But not as beautiful as the treasonous phone call to Ukraine.
A couple of weeks later, nobody had ever said it was a hoax. That was a hoax propagated by the FAKE NEWS media.
A couple of weeks later, we had a national emergency, and it was up to the States to decide.
None of this was DJT's fault.
Nobody could have predicted a pandemic.
Everything has been great, billions of Americans have been kept safe.
Jared absolutely did not go around the country, appropriating PPE, delivering it to his business friends who then sold it at a markup. That did not happen.
We were going to see it go away in April, when the weather gets warmer.
We were going to see it go away by Easter, because miracles happen.
We are going to see it go away in November, because miracles happen and it's a Democrat (sic) hoax to make DJT look bad.
Mike Pence is the most qualified person to lead a pandemic response team, second only to the president himself. Doctors and epidemiologists should bow to him in his greatness. Unless he fails.
We will see 50K, maybe 60K, deaths as the absolute peak of this thing. 100K-200K deaths means we're doing great. Billions of Americans have been saved already.

See? It's all under control. Get back to work and go to church!

#23 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-05-27 03:57 PM | Reply

I've read the median age of someone who dies from the CV is about the median age of most trump supporters.

They'e lucky that Christ calls me to care about them.

#24 | Posted by Tor at 2020-05-27 04:06 PM | Reply

See? It's all under control. Get back to work and go to church!

#23 | POSTED BY CHUFFY AT

Yes.

All human capital stock test meat is to return to work immediately.

Socialize, too. Hit the bar. Play twister.

#25 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-05-27 04:08 PM | Reply

"You people really want people to die just because you hate Trump."

You simply don't care if people die, Boaz.

Why?

Because you love Trump so much, it can't possibly be Trump's fault if people die.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 04:09 PM | Reply

CDC has actually said it is around 0.4% and this all depends on age.

#22 | Posted by phinphan

So far, 6% of those diagnosed with COVID-19 have died.

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 04:13 PM | Reply

So far, 6% of those diagnosed with COVID-19 have died ... in the U.S.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 04:14 PM | Reply

That is not the mortality rate. It is not even close to 6%. What you are saying is totally misleading. Not everyone who had Covid was diagnosed and so you can't just throw that out. The mortality rate is around 0.4%. At least be honest with your what your numbers actually mean. If they only tested those who died,would that make it 100% mortality rate, no.

#29 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The mortality rate is around 0.4%"

Meaning the final US death toll should come in right around one million dead, correct?

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 04:22 PM | Reply

"You people really want people to die just because you hate Trump."

We don't really want anyone to die of this preventable illness, but we do think it's unfortunate that 100K Americans had to die alone because his cult refuses to listen to reason.

#31 | Posted by chuffy at 2020-05-27 04:25 PM | Reply

I read a good article about how, only testing people who are sick gives an inflated level of mortality.

That. We should be testing everyone, especially healthy people. To identify asymptomatic carriers. Including them will decrease the mortality rate and give more reliable information about the virus.

The problem is too little testing. There should be about a quarter of a million people getting tested daily. Everyday. So we can have more accurate information.

The problem is. Trump believes it's the testing that's making him look bad. He's partially right. Unfortunately. He's fighting the testing, instead of embracing it. Scientific research isn't the enemy. Ignoring it is.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-27 04:26 PM | Reply

If everybody in the US gets infected and that is the mortality rate, then yes. But will everyone get infected, no. Will that many people die, I don't know. And that number may end up being over the next year or so because the virus will not just go away.

#33 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 | Posted by boaz

Simple math says the mortality rate in the U.S. is 6% (rounded):

101,000 deaths divided by 1,700,000 = 0.0587209302325581

#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 04:31 PM | Reply

That is your problem This is not a simple math problem. The mortality rate is around 0.4% Do some reading and stop throwing out misleading useless stats.

#35 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"If everybody in the US gets infected and that is the mortality rate, then yes. But will everyone get infected, no."

Herd immunity needs something like 70% infectes to kick in.

0.4% of 70% of the US population is about one million, correct?

Stand by your estimate. Say, by PhinPhan's estimate, the death toll will be close to one million Americans.

Come on, man up.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 04:33 PM | Reply

Here is a simple math problem for you 101,000/329,227,746 = 0.000306779 so only 0.030677852% of the people in the USA die from Covid. See how simple math doesn't necessarily speak truth.

#37 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 04:36 PM | Reply

"so only 0.030677852% of the people in the USA die from Covid."

What a weird way to say "one million."

Come on boy, you can do it!

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 04:38 PM | Reply

Snoofy, Man up? What does that suppose to mean here? I am not God and so I don't control all this. At the end of all this, maybe that many people will die. What is your point? Do you want to hide in a cave for the rest of your life? What are you trying to say and what is your solution. I am just going with the numbers the CDC says. I have no idea how many will die from this.

#39 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 04:40 PM | Reply

"...so only 0.030677852% of the people in the USA die from Covid."

That's have died so far. Why are you pretending the death toll has ended?

"See how simple math doesn't necessarily speak truth."

Simple math?!? More like Republican Math.

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-05-27 04:43 PM | Reply

as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States

that's a big number

#41 | Posted by Maverick at 2020-05-27 04:44 PM | Reply

No this is AU's math. I was responding to AU. AU said the death rate was 6% and it is not.

#42 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 04:45 PM | Reply

as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States

#41 | POSTED BY MAVERICK AT 2020-05-27 04:44 PM | FLAG: EYE ROLL

So? There are videos of governors pleading for more assistance from the federal government while Trumplethinskin was still in denial... and all the subsequent denials by the clowns since. Shall we talk about withholding and diverting, medical supplies? All a matter of public record.

Seriously it is making your team look like they are intentionally and vindictively killing the opposition with your stupid political agendas. That what you want dumb@$$? May as well because that is how the world sees you and your smarmy party.

Leaving office in disgrace....oink oink oink

#43 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-05-27 04:58 PM | Reply

"as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States"

0% were from a Democrat President run Country.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States

that's a big number

Democratic states tend to be more heavily populated and were hit earlier during the spread of the disease. During the time when we weren't quarantining, weren't wearing masks, or even acknowledging the existence of the virus.

During the crucial first few months when stopping the spread was plausible. Trump called it's seriousness a hoax by Democrats. He ignored it and went golfing.

I don't doubt Democratic States were hit hardest.

What I wonder about is, why the person elected to protect our nation, isn't being held responsible for failing at his duty.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-27 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No this is AU's math. I was responding to AU. AU said the death rate was 6% and it is not.

#42 | Posted by phinphan

Try math. It's a real thing!

101,000 deaths divided by 1,700,000 reported cases = 6% (rounded up from .587%)

Most of us learned how to calculate percentages in grade school.

#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 05:00 PM | Reply

AU said the death rate was 6% and it is not.
#42 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

The Case Fatality rate is 6%.
I'd guess roughly a half or even as low as a third of infections become cases.
Lack of testing is a big reason why.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 05:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" AU said the death rate was 6% and it is not."

Correct: 6% is merely the death rate of those confirmed infected, and usually only those with advanced symptoms get tested.

That doesn't make your cockamamie claim any less ludicrous.

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-05-27 05:02 PM | Reply

"as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States">

COVID-19 hit NY and the East and West coasts hard because that's where people flying in from around the world land.

There aren't international flights into any red states except TX (Dallas).

Duh.

#49 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

That is mortality rate for REPORTED cases. Neither the deaths nor the cases are the true numbers however.

What I am seeing is current studies are saying there are likely about 50% of cases that are asymptomatic or so mild people don't realize they have the symptoms some go much higher. There is also the fact that not all the dead are tested for COVID-19.

Sorry for those that don't believe this is a big deal but the infection rate for the Flu is FAR higher than for COVID-19. There are also similar flu cases - very mild and asymptomatic. Yet the average flu only kills about 20k/year ANNUALLY on average - when this first started that was the number is was finding at places like the CDC. Let me know next February how many COVID deaths we have had. Your typical flu season and even bad ones don't fill morgues to over capacity. It doesn't fill hospitals. It doesn't empty nursing homes by killing half the patients. It has never caused China to panic build hospitals. It has not caused any country in the past 100 years to issue stay at home orders. One R0 flu did the "Spanish" flu. Yes they issued orders here in the good Ole' USA similar to what we have had this time 100 years ago. The R0 contagion numbers for Spanish Flu and COVID-19 are similar from what I have read. H1N1 has come through several times since then but it killed millions in 2017-2018 in the USA when we didn't have the resources we have now.

Michigan has seen more COVID deaths in 1 month than it has seen total flu deaths since 2000. How many of you can name people you know however distantly who died of the flu? Can you name people you know however distantly that have died from COVID? Funny thing is the first person I even remotely knew died of the flu this year in early February. I know one person who has passed from COVID (Late 60s) and her daughter is still on a vent (mid-40s). I probably know more but I honestly haven't paid attention to the obits.

#50 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-05-27 05:06 PM | Reply

as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States
that's a big number

#41 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

That's because the majority of Americans live in states with
Democratic governors.

175 million people a majority of the United States' estimated population of 325 million have Democratic governors. www.huffpost.com

#51 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-05-27 05:09 PM | Reply

AU, you might want to go beyond the simple math part and maybe move up to a higher math and do some reading about the actual numbers and the actual mortality rate. You don't like to live in reality world and want to hang on to some meaningless number. Have at it and continue to live in fear and think like a simple minded person. You don't have to be ignorant though if you chose not to. Read and see reality.

#52 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 05:09 PM | Reply

Another great ad from the Lincoln Project slams Body Bags Trump.

m.youtube.com

#53 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-05-27 05:12 PM | Reply

"78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States"

What percentage of the covid deaths were from a Republican President run Country?

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-05-27 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"as of yesterday 78% of all the covid deaths were from Democrat Governor run States"

What happened to 100% are from China?
???

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 05:18 PM | Reply

That is not the mortality rate. It is not even close to 6%. What you are saying is totally misleading. Not everyone who had Covid was diagnosed and so you can't just throw that out. The mortality rate is around 0.4%. At least be honest with your what your numbers actually mean. If they only tested those who died,would that make it 100% mortality rate, no.

#29 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

That's called the case fatality rate and is a standard metric reported for infectious diseases.

#56 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-27 05:37 PM | Reply

#52 | Posted by phinphan

Says the guy who supports a moron of a president who bungled our response and downplayed the seriousness of it until it was out of hand, and continues to mock people who are actually taking measures like wearing masks to prevent further spread.

Meanwhile, countries like South Korea used the WHO test that worked, began contact tracing, and have deaths measured in the hundreds, not hundreds of thousands. All because Trump demanded a 'Made in America' test that didn't work and cost us a vital month that the virus spread like wildfire.

There's no way to minimize the effects this virus has had on Americans, but you'll keep trying ...

#57 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 05:37 PM | Reply

I'd guess roughly a half or even as low as a third of infections become cases.
Lack of testing is a big reason why.

#47 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-05-27 05:01 PM | FLAG: SIGH

If you count it in ratio to the total number of confirmed cases(to date) it is roughly 6%.. that will grow... and you are counting the chickens before they hatch.
BUT
If you consider only the cases contained within that total that have come to the conclusions with the patient's recovery or death... it's roughly 20% death rate thus far

There are still 1.2 million confirmed cases (more or less) that are still in process. Until the recoveries and deaths related to the virus stop... we don't know how deadly it is. That is going to take awhile.

As it stands right now in the US if you are diagnosed you have a 1 in 5 chance of buying the big one.

That seems sort of serious to me.

#58 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-05-27 05:44 PM | Reply

Will Trump learn from South Korea? A country who had their first confirmed case of COVID-19 on the same day we did, but with 20% of the U.S. population has only had under 300 deaths?

If history is any guide, absolutely not.

#59 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 05:59 PM | Reply

#52 | Posted by phinphan

You may want to go back to using the User ID you normally use, not the sockpuppet you're using now, diet king.

Or were you banned and have to use this one now? Hmmm

#60 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 06:08 PM | Reply

100,000 is 100,000 is 100,000 dead Americans. No matter what the mortality rate. Most of which could have been prevented if we had a competent President.

#61 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-05-27 06:16 PM | Reply

AU, whatever. You are not too bright.

#62 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 06:30 PM | Reply

AU, whatever. You are not too bright.

#62 | Posted by phinphan

Wow, what a comeback!! [/snark off]

Mortality rates for diseases are calculated as a percentage of diagnosed cases. Duh.

#63 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 06:37 PM | Reply

Mortality rates are calculated as a percentage of diagnosed cases. That is a true statistical statement for medical percentages.

Again though, if it is 6% or 20% does it make Trump look any less incompetent whatever the number.

#64 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-05-27 06:42 PM | Reply

phinphan (who is this really?) seeks to minimize the deaths by using the entire U.S. population.

We have NO idea how many people have or have had COVID-19 because our moron-in-chief blew it and didn't do what sane leaders in South Korea, Germany, NZ and many other countries did: follow proper procedures, quickly roll out testing, test widely, do contact tracing, quarantine the infected, etc etc.

The month we lost because of Trump's refusal to use a working WHO test has cost us dearly. His passing off responsibility to states (so he can pass the blame to them) rather than mount a massive federal response (which is what other presidents would have done) is why we're where we are.

Meanwhile, idiot Trump supporters continue to spout nonsense and deny their hero is, as Rex Tillerson is quoted, "a f****ng moron!" Trump's proved that in spades.

#65 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 06:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AU, you can pick and choose any number you wish but the mortality rate of Covid-19 is around 0.4%. Maybe go to the CDC and read a little and you might learn and understand things. Yes, it is deadly but it is not killing people in the 6% range or the 20% range that you guys are throwing out here. You are either ignorant or just like to lie. A great majority of the people who have died are over 65 and/or have respiratory issues. Wash your hands, wear a mask, don't touch your face. Do that and you will more than likely not get Covid-19.

#66 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 06:59 PM | Reply

Wash your hands, wear a mask, don't touch your face. Do that and you will more than likely not get Covid-19.

#66 | Posted by phinphan

Wrong stupid. Wearing a mask protects OTHERS, which is why trump's cult refuses to do it. Caring for OTHERS is a foreign concept and a sign of weakness to them.

You can get covid at any age. And there may be lasting effects even for young people. And even if you live, it is 2-3 weeks of hell.

#67 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-27 07:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What was I wrong about? Are you saying don't wear a mask?

#68 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 08:03 PM | Reply

This is so tragic, all the families who loved ones have died, there are no words to describe the pain they must be going through.

#69 | Posted by Badcat at 2020-05-27 08:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now that we are testing a tenth of a percent of the population a day the positive rate has dropped to 5.5% however most of the deaths we are seeing now came from people tested back when we were seeing a positive rate of 20%. So 6% case mortality with 20% positive results makes me guess we have been running about a 1.2% mortality rate. However as we learn about the disease treatments are improving, hospitals for the most part are geared up so that rate should drop, with luck to the .4 Phinphan is saying.

However as Snoofy pointed out .4% is 1 million dead Americans with a 70% infection rate to hit herd immunity.

Lets hope we catch a break with a vaccine or better treatments long before 3 out of every 1000 Americans are dead.

#70 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-05-27 08:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We're #1!

Trump is right, I'm tired of all the 'winning.'

#71 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 08:31 PM | Reply

A white police officer was fired in Louisiana after he posted on Facebook that he was disappointed that not more black people were dying from the virus than there were.

OCU

#72 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-05-27 08:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What was I wrong about? Are you saying don't wear a mask?

#68 | Posted by phinphan

YOu're wrong that wearing a mask keeps you healthy. It keeps OTHERS healthy. I wear one because I'm not a stupid trump supporter who thinks endangering others lives is a sign of masculinity and republican strength.

#73 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-27 08:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What was I wrong about? Are you saying don't wear a mask?

#68 | Posted by phinphan

You're MORE LIKELY THAN NOT to not die in a car crash. Does that mean we can get rid of seat belts and air bags?

#74 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-27 08:37 PM | Reply

A great majority of the people who have died are over 65 and/or have respiratory issues.

#66 | Posted by phinphan

AKA People who don't count, right?

#75 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-27 08:38 PM | Reply

Speak, you need to learn to read. I said if you wash your hands, don't touch your face and wear a mask you are more than likely not to get Covid. So, if everyone did what I said, even the angry ones like you, we would be better off.

#76 | Posted by phinphan at 2020-05-27 08:40 PM | Reply

This death toll was not inevitable. "The buck stops here" only applies in Trump's mind to ripping off his contractors.

South Korea's death toll from COVID-19 is currently 269. With 20% of our population, they've had 1500 times fewer cases, 3/10ths of 1% our number of deaths, and their economy is mostly wide open.

That's what competent leadership in a crisis looks like. Trump the opposite.

#77 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-27 08:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you want to hide in a cave for the rest of your life? What are you trying to say and what is your solution.
#39 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

Why throw out such a baseless extreme? Why not wait for vaccine trials to at least show us there's a probability that current vaccinations could be a viable path?

"Hide in a cave for the rest of your life" or "wait for vaccination trials to become more clear"?

Settle down a bit and think for a minute. This is not a black v. white issue. You people make it sound like we've already been in the basement for years now. Suck it up, it's best for everyone, not just Gramma Jinny.

#78 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-27 08:54 PM | Reply

that's a big number
#41 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

Coincidental number. Reconsider that number when credible meta-analysis research can be conducted, which is clearly not now.

#79 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-27 08:56 PM | Reply

Speak, you need to learn to read. I said if you wash your hands, don't touch your face and wear a mask you are more than likely not to get Covid. So, if everyone did what I said, even the angry ones like you, we would be better off.

#76 | Posted by phinphan

So why won't your cult leader wear a mask in public as an example to the cult that they should do the same?

By your own definition, he's therefore making us worse off.

#80 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-27 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do you want to hide in a cave for the rest of your life? What are you trying to say and what is your solution.
#39 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

Do you propose to ignore the virus and hope it magically goes away like your Dear Leader?

Because that is just retarded.

What is your solution? Sacrifice a portion of the herd for the profit of and protection of the rest?

Really? That's the best you or Dear Leader can do?

Pretty Deplorable.

#81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-27 11:27 PM | Reply

Wash your hands, wear a mask, don't touch your face. Do that and you will more than likely not get Covid-19.
#66 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

What a steaming pile of --------.

How do we get to herd immunity levels of 70% without 70% of the people getting it?
???

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-27 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

On a side note- wife and I think he wont wear a mask because it would mess up his orange makeup-

#20 | POSTED BY JIMBOB43

You'd be right. Nobody believes that healthy glow is real. Especially the pink blush.

#83 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-05-27 11:55 PM | Reply

Do that and you will more than likely not get Covid-19.

#66 | POSTED BY PHINPHAN

Nonsense. Everybody will get it eventually.

And the CDC's 0.4% was the value they used in their projections with clear indicators that that is likely to change.

Why? Because we don't know the full extent of actual infections because testing is so poor.

In any case, that's still 40X higher than seasonal influenza estimates of 0.01%.

#84 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-28 12:02 AM | Reply

Herd immunity, to work effectively, requires a vaccine.

Swedish foreign minister has had to defend their COVID-19 response recently in the face of rising death count. It may have been more effective had they waited for a vaccine.

#85 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 02:31 AM | Reply

Well, it's much better than the 300k deaths the Liberal media was reporting we would have by the end of May. I'm sure the Left has forgotten those numbers and have probably erased them from the archives, but that doesn't remove the fact the numbers went incredibly high. I'm not relying on them because every week we get new estimates from hundreds of outlets. I'm just saying that nobody is held accountable or ever admits to being wrong.

#86 | Posted by humtake at 2020-05-28 12:41 PM | Reply

Well, it's much better than the 300k deaths the Liberal media was reporting we would have by the end of May. I'm sure the Left has forgotten those numbers and have probably erased them from the archives, but that doesn't remove the fact the numbers went incredibly high. I'm not relying on them because every week we get new estimates from hundreds of outlets. I'm just saying that nobody is held accountable or ever admits to being wrong.

#86 | Posted by humtake

Where is this liberal media? Is there some channel that is constantly trying to sell the notion we should defund the military, legalize all drugs and prostitution, break up major corporations, outlaw fossil fuels, and make healthcare and education free for everyone?

The final death toll will be far closer to the "liberal media's" prediction that your stupid cult leader's prediction of 15 deaths.

Trump is wrong more than any other human on earth yet has he ever admitted to it?

#87 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-28 01:03 PM | Reply

Well, it's much better than the 300k deaths the Liberal media was reporting we would have by the end of May.

And this is how we'll see righty morons shrug off the effects of Trump's incompetence and their selfishness.

"What, only X thousand died? Better than Y thousand that it could have been!"

Pathetic.

I'm just saying that nobody is held accountable or ever admits to being wrong.

#86 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Anybody who expects a model to be 100% accurate isn't worth listening to.

Anybody who misrepresents what was said (300K was the upper estimation in the absence of mitigation measures) isn't worth listening to.

Seriously, dude, do you intentionally make yourself a joke or do you actually believe that tripe?

#88 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-28 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

it's much better than the 300k deaths the Liberal media was reporting we would have by the end of May.

Thank goodness liberals and Democrats heeded the advice of medical professionals and quarantined in order to help reduce the death toll.

I don't expect you to understand.

#89 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-28 02:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I don't expect you to understand.
#89 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

You shouldn't. It's the same nonsensical argument tied to comparing COVID-19 to the flu.

Yes, the flu kills many people a year. But COVID-19 has surpassed that yearly average in a matter of weeks WITH quarantine and social distancing. It's as if these people ignore the fact they have been in quarantine while complaining about being in quarantine.

Had Trump been King, in charge of every territory and making decisions for every American, we would be seeing 300,000 deaths as of May. Scientific and medical advice offered by professionals was heeded by State Governors (mostly Democratic), saving tens of thousands of lives. Oh, but it was actually Trump that saved tens of thousands of lives, you say (not you specifically, CLOWN)?

How convenient.

#90 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

New COVID-19 cases are going up in southern states.

#91 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 07:23 PM | Reply

Brazil, led by Trump's behavioral doppelganger who also mocks mask wearing, reported 20,599 new cases of COVID-19 today. Because of the same attitude that led the U.S. to the point we are now, they're losing the battle.

Meanwhile, Japan (16,000 total cases) and South Korea (11,000 total cases) took the right steps and are now fully open.

#92 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 07:31 PM | Reply

Herd immunity, to work effectively, requires a vaccine.
#85 | POSTED BYRSTYBEACH11

Herd immunity should work effectively no matter what.

Without a vaccine, herd immunity can work after around 70% of infected have recovered or died.

This is where the roughly million or so deaths estimate is from. After that, even though it's so contagious, most people can't get it any more, so it spreads less and less.

That is the path we are on, since containment has failed.

With a vaccine, immunity can be given to people without exposing them to the disease itself. So you can get to 70% just by jabbing people in the arm. And lots less people die. This is why we are racing against time to save lives.

This is also how social distancing could save lives, sowing down the spread so we get to 70% slower.

Super-spreader events justified closing bath houses to fight AIDS. We should fight COVID-19 using the same approach.

#93 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-05-28 07:35 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2020 World Readable

Drudge Retort