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Thursday, May 28, 2020

For a moment in April, the Internet tried to cancel Florida. Photos showing crowds flocking to Jacksonville Beach amid the Covid-19 pandemic brought the hashtag #FloridaMorons to the top of Twitter. The media eagerly spun scenes of ignorant spring breakers endangering themselves and others. Nearly two months after America's first case of coronavirus, here was Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, joining neighboring state Georgia's "experiment in human sacrifice" by letting locals lift restrictions on their own. Nearly a month later, Jacksonville's Duval County reports new Covid-19 hospitalizations in the single digits. Rates of hospitalizations, cases, and deaths remain steady across Florida.

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So far, fewer Floridians have died of the novel coronavirus than in New York's nursing homes alone (2,259 compared with 5,800, at least). More than half of the state's known cases of Covid-19 are found in just four South Florida counties"the top out-of-state destinations for fleeing New Yorkers. As Politico recently concluded, "Florida just doesn't look nearly as bad as the national news media and sky-is-falling critics have been predicting for about two months now." There's still a lot that we don't know about mitigating Covid-19, but Florida's approach"a decentralized health response with targeted lockdowns and quarantines reinforced by voluntary social distancing"appears to have worked. Other populous states adopting this approach, such as Tennessee, have seen similar success. Governor DeSantis's experience suggests that it is possible to keep a lid on the coronavirus even while gradually reopening.

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Interesting how much Cuomo (to the point that he was being thrown out as a candidate to insert behind closed doors at the convention for POTUS) was lauded by the media and how much DeSantis was pilloried.

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So far, fewer Floridians have died

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at

So far.

Exactly.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-28 03:07 PM | Reply

how much DeSantis was pilloried.

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at

An evil man like DeSantis who hides his COVID cases is only admired by other evil men.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-28 03:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It's not so much that people like you attempt to advance weird-assed defenses of Donald Trump by citing the COVID efforts of a blatantly corrupt governor, it's that when the number of dead do start rising you'll also treat that as no big deal.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-28 03:13 PM | Reply

#1

I'm sure it had nothing, at all, to do with this:

www.floridatoday.com

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:17 PM | Reply

#5 You're right, it didn't. If the loaf of bread she was just a crumb with a troubled HR history.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:22 PM | Reply

If the loaf of bread she was just a crumb with a troubled HR history.
#6 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

For the sake of credibility and electability, I'm sure Desantis hopes you're right. No reason to believe you are, though.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:24 PM | Reply

Coronavirus updates: Florida's governor didn't act promptly to identify outbreaks in elder care facilities and is now scrambling, a Palm Beach Post investigation has found.
www.palmbeachpost.com

...As coronavirus deaths increased exponentially in elder care centers, Gov. Ron DeSantis took a victory lap.

Along with fawning state officials and industry leaders, he touted at a May 13 news conference that his actions prevented a catastrophe at nursing homes and assisted living facilities.

The Republican governor said he always knew and acted decisively at the beginning to protect "the most vulnerable population," who he calls "the tip of the spear" for the pandemic in Florida.

But DeSantis' "whack-a-mole" approach to long-term care facilities in the pandemic " as the AARP calls it " has failed.

COVID-19 fatalities linked to elder care centers comprise nearly half of the deaths in Florida and the percentage rises every day. Yet nursing homes and ALF residents and staff comprise only 2 percent of the state's population.

Between April and May, the death toll at nursing homes and ALFs increased nearly 600 percent. By Thursday, COVID-19 deaths of residents and staff had topped 1,000....


#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-28 03:25 PM | Reply

... Photos showing crowds flocking to Jacksonville Beach amid the Covid-19 pandemic brought the hashtag #FloridaMorons to the top of Twitter. ...

One has to wonder if it was Gov DeSantis' intent to keep the beaches open through Spring Break to get all the money pouring in from college students, who would then leave to take the virus back to their home states.

Was it a coincidence that he waited until the last day of Spring Break festivities to close the beaches?


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-28 03:28 PM | Reply

Quoting left wingnut liberals bird cage liners as reputable unbiased news is hardly credible when they write hate anything republican hit pieces. Not sure why so many posters hate Florida and our success, jealousy maybe? Disney opens in July. Y'all come on down!

#10 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:31 PM | Reply

#9 BINGO. Who ratted the governor out? Names, I want names!

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:32 PM | Reply

Hot spots in Lake Worth, Belle Glade threaten progress against coronavirus
www.palmbeachpost.com

...Even as Palm Beach County emerges from its coronavirus shutdown, hot spots have emerged in Belle Glade and Lake Worth, sickening hundreds, cramming the intensive care unit at the Lakeside Medical Center and threatening the county's overall progress against the deadly virus.

As of Friday morning, a combined 598 people in Belle Glade and Lake Worth zip codes had tested positive for coronavirus, according to figures released by the state Department of Health. Those 598 cases represented 12.3 percent of the county's entire caseload....

Commissioner Melissa McKinlay, whose district includes the Glades, told her colleagues that 40 percent of those who have gone to Lakeside Medical for testing have been positive.

The hospital, itself an important source of health and economic vitality in a city thirsty for both, has seen its ICU crammed as patients come in when they get too sick to continue working.

"They're not coming in when they're asymptomatic," McKinlay said. "They're showing up when they're very sick."

Reports of patients leaving against medical advice

The 70-bed hospital, built and operated by the Health Care District of Palm Beach County, is reaching the edge of its capabilities, she said.

"The last conversation I had (with the Health Care District), the ICU at Lakeside was filled," McKinlay said. "There's no capacity there in ICU."

McKinlay also noted that the hospital has not provided the same type of isolation coronavirus patients experience at hospitals along the county's east coast.

"Their definition of isolation is not negative pressure rooms like we're seeing at some of the hospitals on the coast," she said. "They're just saying because they're in a room by themselves, that's their definition of isolation, which, to me, puts the health care workers at risk."...


#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-28 03:34 PM | Reply

Y'all come on down!
#10 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Keep your Disney World all to yourself. Disneyland is soooooooooooooo much better.

Even the Tampa Bay Times (no liberal publication) is hot on DeSantis' tail:

How coronavirus candor gets you fired, then smeared by Gov. Ron DeSantis
The DeSantis administration claims to be transparent. Then why fire a data manager after a dispute over releasing data?
www.tampabay.com

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Names, I want names!
#11 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

JEFFJ/ROC/SHEEPLE/ETC.

#14 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Palm Beach Post is as worthy as the Miami Herald for mullet wrapper. You can keep copy and pasting their crap all over my thread won't change that fact.

#15 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:36 PM | Reply

@#10 ... Quoting left wingnut liberals bird cage liners ...

So, you cannot argue against the facts presented and you have to resort to name calling.

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-28 03:36 PM | Reply

Stalking me now RSTY? Cute.

#17 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:37 PM | Reply

"Gov. Ron DeSantis has chastised the media for quoting public health modelers who predicted the state would run out of hospital bed space if he didn't issue a state-wide stay-home order in April. But the governor's emergency managers, using those same models, were so concerned they would run out of space that they signed $283 million in no-bid deals to build alternative hospitals to hold the overflow, a Times/Herald analysis has found."
www.tampabay.com

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just keeps getting better:

Why Ron DeSantis' popularity has taken a hit since the pandemic started
The approval ratings of most governors have soared during the crisis. DeSantis has seen his support plummet amid a confusing, conflicting response.
www.tampabay.com

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Stalking me now RSTY? Cute.
#17 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Your political philosophy (or lack thereof) is just so god damned adorable.

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:39 PM | Reply

I live in reality. I have family close and extended that all live in reality, Florida. You folks worry about your own states and towns. I've got mine covered!

#21 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:40 PM | Reply

I've got mine covered!
#21 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

If you're still supporting Desantis, you're clearly mistaken.

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:41 PM | Reply

@#21 ... all live in reality, Florida ...

Is Reality, FL also where A Florida Man lives? :)

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-05-28 03:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

"But the governor's emergency managers, using those same models, were so concerned they would run out of space that they signed $283 million in no-bid deals to build alternative hospitals to hold the overflow"

So the Florida State government is talking out of both sides of its mouth

Easy to be "successful" when you lie.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-28 03:45 PM | Reply

My state has 1/3 of Florida's population but 1/7th the number of Florida's deaths from COVID-19.

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:45 PM | Reply

#23 No one can contain Florida man, I'll give you that! When I travel by car I go out of my way to avoid Pasco and Polk counties. They breed Florida man there!

#26 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 03:46 PM | Reply

Is Reality, FL also where A Florida Man lives? :)
#23 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Lives, born and raised.

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 03:47 PM | Reply

Florida's reported deaths ...

Coronavirus Florida: Editorial: Gov. DeSantis still hiding crucial data on COVID-19 deaths from the public

By Editorial Boards - Gannett Florida Network
Posted May 13, 2020 at 6:15 AM

As fatalities from the virus continue to increase daily, never in recent historical memory has there been a more unsettling display of Florida government's dark impulses to conceal the truth from its own citizens. Citizens should be outraged.

The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health (DOH), the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:50 PM | Reply

Yes, muzzling reports from public medical examiners

Take reported numbers of cases and deaths from COVID-19 in Florida with a grain of salt.

DeSantis is cooking the books.

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Editorial: DeSantis still hiding data on COVID-19 deaths
Editorial Board, Pensacola News Journal Published 6:00 a.m. CT May 8, 2020

The state of Florida is hiding information about coronavirus deaths from citizens. Under the direction of Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Florida Department of Health, the state has consistently refused to inform the public about deaths and infections in Florida nursing homes, prisons and now, coronavirus deaths as documented by public medical examiners.

As fatalities from the virus continue to increase daily, never in recent historical memory has there been a more unsettling display of Florida government's dark impulses to conceal the truth from its own citizens. Citizens should be outraged.

Crucial reporting from the Miami Herald Wednesday night detailed the state of Florida's decision to blackout large swaths of public information from data sheets about statewide deaths due to coronavirus.

Pensacola News Journal

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:56 PM | Reply

@#10 ... Quoting left wingnut liberals bird cage liners ...

You really aren't aware of your source, are you? City Journal is the propaganda arm of the Manhattan Policy Institute - a far right libertarian "think tank" that wrote missives screeching about how the Proud Boys were treated unfairly.

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-28 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Crucial reporting from the Miami Herald Wednesday night detailed the state of Florida's decision to blackout large swaths of public information from data sheets about statewide deaths due to coronavirus.

The Herald and other news organizations including the Pensacola News Journal had sought access to the list for weeks. According to the Herald, the documents are compiled from individual medical examiners and maintained by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Earlier the state had been providing it.

The head of the Florida Medical Examiner's Commission, which governs the state's 21 medical examiners, has confirmed that the information is subject to disclosure under the state's public records law. In fact, such fatality information is crucially maintained for public access in cases of statewide natural disasters such as hurricanes and pandemics.

The Herald noted that for nearly 30 years since Hurricane Andrew, the DOH has never objected to full public disclosure of the death records.

Yet the DeSantis administration has suddenly directed the information to be kept secret.

www.pnj.com

#32 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bottom line: COVID-19 is much worse in Florida than DeSantis wants anyone to know.

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:59 PM | Reply

So much for "Let the sunshine in" ...

#34 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 03:59 PM | Reply

Seaworld opens in June, come on down y'all.

#35 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 04:10 PM | Reply

Seaworld opens in June, come on down y'all.
#35 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Sea World San Diego is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better.

Why, you ask? Because it's the one NOT in Florida.

#36 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-05-28 04:11 PM | Reply

I've been to Seaworld in San Diego. Was there on a business trip, stayed in the Gaslamp district. Way better? It's still closed with no news on a reopen date. So fly to Cali, park in the Seaworld parking lot and look at locked doors or come to Florida and see Seaworld when it reopens in June!

#37 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 04:16 PM | Reply

My wife and I went to SeaWorld Orlando years ago. I'll never go back.

The idea of keeping mammals who are used to roaming thousands of miles in the ocean in what amounts to a bathtub-sized enclosure to them is cruel.

#38 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-28 04:27 PM | Reply

#38 What exactly did you expect to see at Seaworld?

#39 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#39

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I personally agree with AU that it is cruel but knowing that I would never go in the first place. It's not like what they do is a secret.

#40 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-05-28 05:33 PM | Reply

Seaworld opens in June, come on down y'all.

BYOM - bring your own mask, or you won't get in.
Park capacity restricted.
No entertainment (singing/performances).
Your temperature will be taken and if you may be denied entry.
Respect physical distancing - marks will be on the pavement in areas where people congregate to help ensure compliance.

Disney's gone further
Temperature checks
Reservations required
Reduced capacity - both to the park and to restaurants within the park.
Time limits on dining
Eliminating as much as possible any "touch points"
Mandatory masks
Queueing will now be virtual instead of standing in a physical line
Social distancing where there are lines clearly marked.
Suspension of most of the parades and shows including fireworks
Hand sanitizing stations throughout the park

Reading the Disney website's comment section is a hoot with all these right-wingers going ballistic threatening Disney. Such a strong contrast against all the posts of the true Disney fans that are just so happy the park is opening and being responsible as much as possible.

#41 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-28 05:57 PM | Reply

Now I have that damn 5th Dimension song in my head. You're a menace, Gracie.

#42 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-05-28 07:09 PM | Reply

Dedicated to Lee:
youtu.be

#43 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2020-05-28 08:27 PM | Reply

Spike in pneumonia deaths in Florida shows an earlier, deadlier arrival of coronavirus, experts say

It was midway through March and Florida's peak flu season was winding down. Then a steep, sudden and alarming spike in pneumonia-related deaths appeared " signaling the arrival of a killer: the new coronavirus.

Experts say the grim spike likely included coronavirus deaths recorded, instead, as pneumonia. And the timing could mean the virus was already spreading unchecked through Florida communities as early as late February, weeks before the state began taking social-distancing measures.

www.sun-sentinel.com

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-28 10:47 PM | Reply

Y'all come on down!
#10 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

No thanks. You go on ahead without me.

I will wait right here a few weeks and see how many of you die first.

Thanks for risking your lives for me so you can ride a Merry go round tho.

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-29 12:47 PM | Reply

...I go out of my way to avoid Pasco and Polk counties.
#26 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

I spent last July 4th at a biker campground in Polk county while I was on the road.
Although an experience not to be missed, I don't think I'm going to do it again.

#46 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-05-29 04:29 PM | Reply

I spent last July 4th at a biker campground in Polk county while I was on the road.
Although an experience not to be missed, I don't think I'm going to do it again.

#46 | Posted by TFDNihilist

One summer years ago, I was in Rapid City, SD. A friend invited me to tag along to Sturgis, an experience in and of itself. "Rice burners" being catapulted out of 2nd story barn doors, etc etc.

But what happened that night was something out of a screenplay ...While walking side streets, we stumbled on something that was pretty bizarre:

One of the biker clubs (Mongrels or Devil's Disciples?) held a "whose old man comes first" BJ contest in a parking lot. Men laying on the ground with 25 'old ladies' on their knees, head bobbing beginning at the same time when the 'ready, set, go!' countdown ended.

#47 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-05-29 04:59 PM | Reply

I have to give Gracie some credit for impeccable timing on posting the story.

Meanwhile in America's wang "Florida's Department of Health on Friday morning confirmed 1,212 additional cases of COVID-19...Friday's increase in cases marks the largest daily increase in more than a month."
"Less than half of the new cases but more than half of the new deaths were in South Florida"
www.miamiherald.com

#48 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-05-29 08:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Rice burners" being catapulted out of 2nd story barn doors...
#47 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I was on my Vespa so some advised me to sleep with one eye open on it, in case a few drunkards decided to show me what's what.
I think the only thing that saved me was the fact I had already done over 2000 miles that week and as one burley biker said to me, "You came from Pennsylvania on that? You're a tougher guy than I am."

#49 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-05-30 11:11 AM | Reply

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