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Saturday, May 30, 2020

New CDC estimates of coronavirus death rates look suspiciously low and present almost no data to back them up, say public health experts who are concerned that the agency is buckling under political pressure to restart the economy.



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A shared set of facts was one of the things that made America different from losing countries. We haven't had that for many years and now it's literally killing and bankrupting us.

#1 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-05-30 04:59 PM | Reply

I will wait until I see what President Cuomo says about those numbers.

The worse case scenario should be similar to New York since we already have that as an example. But as the article says it falls short. Suspiciously low.

I don't believe anything this Administration puts out as fact as until it is fact checked by a reliable source.

I believe the 17000+ lies Trumpy as far as I can throw him.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-30 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There's no way the numbers a pretty that low.

As evidence for that guess is the fact that they refused to reveal their sources other than an Iranian preprint.

A sure sign they're manipulating numbers and playing games with the stats.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2020-05-30 06:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's criminal negligence has caused 104,000 Americans to transition to graveyards.

#4 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-05-30 07:44 PM | Reply

That's an IFR number of 0.4, not the CFR number.
Infection Fatality Rate versus the Case Fatality Rate.

We don't know the IFR because we haven't done random testing in a statistically significant way. We don't know how many people are actually infected.

If we say that 42% are asymptomatic and not tested, and we know that we've tested 1.8 million people and have a CFR or 5.9%, and we then increase those tested by 42%, we get 2.6 million infected. That would make the IFR 4%, not 0.4%.

To get an IFR of 0.4 would mean that 26 million in the U.S. have had to already been infected given the current number of COVID-19 deaths.

If that's the case, we'd be at 12.6% of the U.S. population with exposure and possible antibodies. That's a very high number, but still no where near what's needed for herd immunity.

One final point. If the IFR of 0.4 is correct, and SARS-CoV-2 follows the infection depth of influenza (using 20% given the R0 for SARS-COV-2), then we're looking at the number of deaths to reach 261,600. If it's 10%, then it will end up being 130,800. The graph is linear.

#5 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-30 08:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I hope someone read #5 after I did all the damn analysis! LOL!

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2020-05-31 10:34 AM | Reply

The end of August will be ugly and Election Day will be a total horror-show. Count on it.

#7 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-05-31 12:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump fires scientists who tell the truth.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-31 11:56 PM | Reply

I, for one, hope these numbers are correct.

#9 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-06-01 12:11 AM | Reply

The less one becomes a scientist, the more one becomes a politician.

--My old boss

#10 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-06-01 01:08 AM | Reply

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