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Sunday, May 31, 2020

President Donald Trump said Sunday that he will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization after Democratic and Republican officials pointed to extremist groups and out of town demonstrators as responsible for violent episodes at protests in major cities across the country.

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Gracie, why do you hate George Soros?

Please be specific.

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-05-31 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

oh, and im not looking for internet rumors and conspiracy theories.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-05-31 02:26 PM | Reply

What an effin' joke. No proof of "antifa", plenty proof of the "boogaloos".

Madbomber and his pathetic little cohorts are a pack of disingenuous dirtbags.

#4 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-31 02:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

No proof of antifa, plenty proof of "boogaloos".

Gracie and her ilk are shameless liars.

#5 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-05-31 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

George Soros would be a better president than Trump.In 24 hours Soros can arrange vasts groups of people in hundreds of locations to carry out his agenda while maintaining a secret payroll and no record of action on his part.Trump has trouble spelling his wife's name.

#6 | Posted by Scotty at 2020-05-31 02:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

We should designate President ------- a terrorist.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-05-31 02:52 PM | Reply

Trump is a terrorist. He admires terrorists. He loves the idea of having his employees do violence to his critics/enemies.

#8 | Posted by bored at 2020-05-31 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

ANTIFA

I've never seen proof ANTIFA is anything more than a few random acts of anarchy the right wing has turned into a boogeyman to scare Trumpublicans into complacency.

Prove me wrong.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-05-31 03:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

How about the Proud Boofs, TaliBundys, and the 3%'ers?????
All 3 are domestic terrorist groups.

#11 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-05-31 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The chances Trump will allow an election in November just got smaller.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2020-05-31 05:36 PM | Reply

How about the Proud Boofs, TaliBundys, and the 3%'ers?????
All 3 are domestic terrorist groups.

#2 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON

By choosing to single out Antifa Trumpy shows his true colors and intentions once again.

And once again he can only speak to his deplorable base. Not to America.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-31 06:52 PM | Reply

Trump's acdtions indicate he is a Fascist, his opposition to Antifa is a Fascist action. Antifa is ANTIFASCIST, do not forget that. I'm not a member of Antifa but I may look into becoming a member. I agree with the idea of being opposed to Fascism, is anyone here in favor of Fascism?

#14 | Posted by danni at 2020-05-31 08:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Damn fascists.

#15 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-05-31 08:17 PM | Reply

I'm not a member of Antifa but I may look into becoming a member. I agree with the idea of being opposed to Fascism, is anyone here in favor of Fascism?

#5 | POSTED BY DANNI

You just admitted you are anti fascist. You are already a member. It's not like you have be initiated like them Proud Boofs.

You just made Trumpy's list. Again.

You must realize Trumpy has no idea what Antifa is nor does he care to know.

As long as he can toss a little red meat to his base them facts don't matter.

Go ahead Humpy. Fan those flames. Light that powder keg. Let's do this thing. Our Stable Genius Humpy must be getting nervous.

They are getting closer and closer to burning down the white house.

Humpy is calling it all "FAKE NEWS!!".

He would be calling it "fake news" while the White House burnt down around him.

Wouldn't that be something.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-31 10:58 PM | Reply

Fascists hate anti fascists.

#17 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-31 11:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Let's see if this guy turns out to be Antifa:

Nashville police: Arrest made in historic courthouse fire

Nashville police have arrested a 25-year-old man on felony arson and vandalism charges in connection with the fire set Saturday night in the Metro Nashville courthouse.

Detectives from the specialized investigations division and SWAT officers took Wesley Somers into custody on Sunday night, according to a Twitter post from the Metro Nashville Police Department. The arrest was made at a home on Manzano Road in the city's Madison neighborhood, police said.

www.tennessean.com

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-31 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Somers was one of 3 people caught on camera:

Nashville's Historic Courthouse was the site of arson, burglary and vandalism Sat night. Tear gas was deployed to disperse the crowd. Do you know any of these 3 persons? Please call Crime Stoppers anonymously and receive a cash reward.

twitter.com

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-31 11:38 PM | Reply

Trump WANTS these protests to turn violent and probably has agents within them to instigate that.

There is nothing he wouldn't do to get re elected. He needs to be re elected to stay out of jail.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-31 11:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Thy ARE a terrorist organization. Hard to believe you far left despicables can't see that.

#9 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

Go ahead arrest them. I too am anti fascist.

So arrest me.

And thy are a terrorist, too.

Especially if you are one of them Proud Boofs. Or a boogaloo boy.

By the way he hasn't declared anything. Yet. He is just babbling.

Twitter is not a policy. It's a more of a trail balloon. To see what kind of push back he gets and now he has to find a legal way to back up his bluster. And it's mostly just red meant for deplorables.

It's is just another tale told by and idiot, full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-31 11:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Red meant" = red meat.

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-31 11:48 PM | Reply

Anti fascists are terrorists but klan members are not. Trump 2020.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-05-31 11:48 PM | Reply

It's just another tale told by an idiot, full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing.

Better...

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-05-31 11:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Thy ARE a terrorist organization."

Btw- How many ANTIFA were arrested for violence in Charlottesville? None.

How many white supremacists from RAM were arrested?
Four.

"All four men admitted they punched and kicked demonstrators who showed up to protest against white nationalists during a torch-lit march at the University of Virginia and the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville in August 2017.

The men were indicted in October on two charges: traveling to incite riots and conspiracy to riot."

White supremacists have committed at least 73 murders since Charlottesville, 39 of which were clearly motivated by hateful, racist ideology.

How many murders have Antifa committed ?
None.

Sounds like the white supremacists are the terrorists to me.

Antifa is described as a collection of far-left-leaning militant groups that resist neo-Nazis and white supremacists. That does not sound like they have a terrorist agenda to me. Seems like they are resisting terrorists to me.

Apparently some Americans can't tell the terrorists from the patriots.

Apparently.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-01 12:51 AM | Reply

#13

Most people are anti fascist. Not many are a part of that terrorist organization.

I'm not a part of any of those things you mentioned. Know nothing about them.

"It's just another tale told by and idiot, full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing."

Exactly

#27 | Posted by willowby at 2020-06-01 01:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most people are anti fascist. Not many are a part of that terrorist organization.

I'm not a part of any of those things you mentioned. Know nothing about them.

"It's just another tale told by and idiot, full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing."

Exactly

#18 | Posted by willowby

The people whining about ANTIFA are trump supporters because antifa ruined their white supremacy party. Trump supporters are fascists.

#28 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-06-01 01:46 AM | Reply

George Soros

#2 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

It was a busy weekend.

Ole George is going to take quit a hit with all of the checks he has to write.. ;-)

#29 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-06-01 06:23 AM | Reply

#8 - I like it. [...] You have anything to back that up?"

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-01 07:22 AM | Reply

#30 I don't like it.

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-01 08:25 AM | Reply

#30 I don't like it.

#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-01 08:25 AM | Reply

Let me clarify: I wouldn't like it if someone called Danni or Twin that. Just because it's Gracie, who isn't my favorite poster and who can be arrogant, flippant and a know-it-all, I still don't like it.

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-01 08:42 AM | Reply

OK. Fine. You win, Gal. Being all nice and reasonable. Dang it. :)

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-01 09:03 AM | Reply

Yav, I'm not saying people have to be, or should be, nice all of the time. I don't always hold with MO's dictum: "When they go low, we go high." I just don't like that particular bit of scatological name-calling.

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-01 09:13 AM | Reply

Got it. Don't let the name calling get "messy!"

#36 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-01 09:31 AM | Reply

Or stinky!

#37 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-01 09:32 AM | Reply

I am with Gal on that, sure Gracie posts some pretty crazy opinions but let's not get that nasty towards anyone here. I would not use a term like that in my real life and I'm not using terms like that here either.

#38 | Posted by danni at 2020-06-01 10:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I'm not a part of any of those things you mentioned. Know nothing about them."

But you should know about those "things" or you are speaking from ignorance.

How is it that you know of Antifa and are convinced they ARE terrorists but dont know anything of the Proud Boys or RAM (Rise Above Movement)

You seem convinced. What convinced you? What evidence did you base that on? In the United States, antifa have never killed anyone, unlike their enemies in Klan hoods and squad cars. Do you support designating the KKK a terrorist organization?

You are either in denial or Nave.

Despite terrorizing minorities, gays, Jews and Catholics for over a century"committing atrocities designed to induce a state of terror among the public"the Klan is not designated as a terrorist organization. Why is that?


#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-01 10:51 AM | Reply

Nave = naive

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-01 11:18 AM | Reply

Gracie, why do you hate George Soros?

Please be specific.

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-05-31 02:25 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because Fox Nooze said so.

#41 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-06-01 11:26 AM | Reply

Let's see if this guy turns out to be Antifa:

Nashville police: Arrest made in historic courthouse fire

Nashville police have arrested a 25-year-old man on felony arson and vandalism charges in connection with the fire set Saturday night in the Metro Nashville courthouse.

Detectives from the specialized investigations division and SWAT officers took Wesley Somers into custody on Sunday night, according to a Twitter post from the Metro Nashville Police Department. The arrest was made at a home on Manzano Road in the city's Madison neighborhood, police said.

www.tennessean.com

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-05-31 11:34 PM | Reply | Flag

Unless ANTIFA suddenly started putting 3%er tats on their arms, then no.

#42 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-06-01 11:28 AM | Reply

"Somers has prior criminal charges in Tennessee, including in Davidson and Sumner counties. Court records show that in 2017 he pleaded guilty in a domestic assault case and was charged with child neglect in a separate case."

Sounds like a arsonistic d-bag to me.

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-01 12:07 PM | Reply

Just because they claim to be anti-fascist doesn't make it so. A lot of people and organizations claim to be things they are not. Further, even if they are anti-fascist it doesn't excuse violence, vandalism, arson, brutal assault, etc committed on their part.

#44 | Posted by rjm53 at 2020-06-01 12:18 PM | Reply

Is there a term for violent leftist thug? Seems all of the words describing such behavior are reserved for right leaning groups.

#45 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-06-01 12:31 PM | Reply

#42 - well damn. Look at that.

"The Three Percenters (also styled 3 Percenters, 3%ers and III%ers) are an American far-right militia movement and paramilitary group. ... The group's name derives from the disputed claim that only three percent of American colonists took up arms against the Kingdom of Great Britain during the American Revolution."

But to be fair, I don't see the tattoo on him in any of the pictures I've seen.

#46 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-01 12:31 PM | Reply

Is there a term for violent leftist thug?

Apparently it's, "Bernie Bros."

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-06-01 12:40 PM | Reply

"The Three Percenters (also styled 3 Percenters, 3%ers and III%ers) are an American far-right militia movement and paramilitary group.

Formed in 2008. I wonder why?

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-06-01 12:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#13
Most people are anti fascist. Not many are a part of that terrorist organization.
I'm not a part of any of those things you mentioned. Know nothing about them.
"It's just another tale told by and idiot, full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing."
Exactly

#27 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

ANTIFA isn't an organization. Therein likes your problem.

They aren't like the Proud Boys or the Klan. They aren't an organized group of people.

So...how do you decide who is ANTIFA and who isn't?

#49 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-06-01 01:33 PM | Reply

Under Trump?

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean"neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master"that's all."

Under Trump whoever Barr or Trump designate and Antifa will be deemed so.

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-01 02:04 PM | Reply

They aren't an organized group of people.

#49 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2020-06-01 01:33 PM | FLAG:

They're an unorganized group of organized and anonymous, unorganized militant groups.

#51 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-01 02:16 PM | Reply

"Unless ANTIFA suddenly started putting 3%er tats on their arms, then no."

Exactly.

#52 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-01 02:28 PM | Reply

If they don't have the tats, they can always be photo-shopped in later.

#53 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-06-01 04:37 PM | Reply

They aren't an organized group of people.
#49 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2020-06-01 01:33 PM | FLAG:
They're an unorganized group of organized and anonymous, unorganized militant groups.
#51 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

So ANTIFA is a label rather than an Organization? Got it.

Then how can you declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization if it isn't an organization? How do you claim someone is part of ANTIFA the organization if it isn't an organization?

#54 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-06-01 05:08 PM | Reply

So they're anarchists with no hierarchy. You prosecute them one pale face soy boi at time and give them hefty jail sentences.

#55 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-06-01 05:26 PM | Reply

No. ANTIFA is more of a label like "Right Wing Militia".

Black Bloc is a group people would label as ANTIFA but their political doctrine is anarcho-libertarianism. In reality it's just white douchebags throwing bricks through Starbucks windows, which isn't surprising given that they're inbred spinoffs of actual European militant groups that fight police in their thousands.

#56 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-01 07:02 PM | Reply

On the other hand, there are Communist groups people would label as ANTIFA. Which is a very rigid political system that has always ended in single party dictatorships and gulags.

Yet they fight The Man together, and get labeled ANTIFA, together.

#57 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-01 07:03 PM | Reply

It's going to be difficult to declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization since there is NO organization there. It's more of a position than a group. To many of its followers, it's a movement against White supremacists and Neo-Nazis. To others, it's agasint globalization and multinational corporations who operate outside the laws of any one nation. While to many others, it's against those institutions that are more interested in protecting the 1% than the rest of society.

OCU

#58 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-01 10:32 PM | Reply

White nationalist group posing as antifa called for violence on Twitter

A Twitter account claiming to belong to a national "antifa" organization and pushing violent rhetoric related to ongoing protests has been linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to a Twitter spokesperson.

The spokesperson said the account violated the company's platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts. Twitter suspended the account after a tweet that incited violence.

As protests were taking place in multiple states across the U.S. Sunday night, the newly created account, @ANTIFA_US, tweeted, "Tonight's the night, Comrades," with a brown raised fist emoji and "Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours ... "

This isn't the first time Twitter has taken action against fake accounts engaged in hateful conduct linked to Identity Evropa, according to the spokesperson.

www.nbcnews.com


#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-06-01 10:53 PM | Reply

Check out Tim Pool's take, www.youtube.com Note, most ANTIFA are upper and upper middle class kids, many with useless degrees, looking for meaning in their failure of a life.

#60 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-06-02 08:21 AM | Reply

Even Sky news his pointing out ANTIFA, they are usually far from being a right wing dog whistle. www.youtube.com

#61 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-06-02 08:28 AM | Reply

You prosecute them one pale face soy boi at time and give them hefty jail sentences.

#55 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT

Heck yeah!! Like we did when those four pale soy boys who were convicted of rioting and violence and conspiracy to commit violence at Charlottesville, Va? Humpy's attempts to make Antifa the scape goats for his incompetence will backfire.

Gosh I wonder what they didn't arrest any Antifa that day since they were the ones supposedly causing all the trouble by their arrival.



But I agree. Anyone committing this violence or conspiring to riot should be held accountable for their actions. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions. Especially this President. Who is responsible? Trump is responsible. Sometimes it sucks to be the leader.

There is a solution. Survive until November. Which is seeking less likely each day.

The solution is to Vote people.

In all of Trumpy's chaos and deflections DO NOT forget to vote!

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-02 11:00 AM | Reply

#59 | Posted by ClownShack Groups are not put on trial and sent to prison in this country, at least not sense FDR in WWII, individuals are. Now is an era where everyone carries a video camera in their pocket. Assaults, vandalism, arson and terrorist acts are being recorded and put on social media. You do not have to willingly share the contents of your cell phone, authorities already have access to it, along with your location at the time. Couple that with facial recognition software and data mining by the NSA, expect a knock at your door if you participated in a riot. Trump designated ANTIFA a terrorist organization so he could use the intelligence assets at his disposal. There are going to come trials and sentencing to prison for a long time. Back in the sixty's you could loot and burn, hard to prove in court unless you were caught at the scene. That isn't the case anymore. Cops and agents can wait for months to make an arrest. They already have all the evidence they need.

#63 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-06-02 11:15 AM | Reply

They already have all the evidence they need.

#63 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

You seem to be in the I know.

What time does the Purge start?

I am not finished with my safe room yet.

#64 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-02 12:20 PM | Reply

#64 | Posted by donnerboy There is no such place as a "safe room". That is just another self imposed cell.

#65 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-06-02 12:52 PM | Reply

Considering that the VAST majority of domestic terrorism, including the assination murder of police officers, is done by MAGA morons, Trumpublicans and other Reichwing nutjobs (Proud Boys, 3%ers, Boogaloo Boys(or Bois), other racist , white nationalist POS) it's rich to see the Reichwingers spewing about Antifa, which is not even an organization so much as a disorganized hodgepodge of far-left anarchist groups who share a common hatred of Reichwing philosophy and rich people.

#66 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-06-02 06:30 PM | Reply

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