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Tuesday, June 02, 2020

On @AC360 , Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde, of the Episcopal Dioscese of Washington, says President Trump used St. John's for a photo op without her mission. "I am outraged."

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There's something truly disturbing and evil about Trump clearing people away from a church with tear gas so he can use it as a backdrop.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2020-06-02 01:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

There's something truly disturbing and evil about Trump clearing people away from a church with tear gas so he can use it as a backdrop.

#1 | Posted by Tor

Yes, it was both crazy and evil.

Some people were beaten up, too.

Then Trump raises a Bible over his head.

He's going to define half our population as enemies and raise holy war against us.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-02 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

People who wrap themselves in the flag and hide behind a bible they've never read are the "scoundrels" who use false patriotism as a shield.

We are witness to the worst President ever... well, those of us who see through his smoke and mirrors.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-02 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm amazed that the Bible in his claw didn't catch fire, or that this street preacher wasn't struck by lightning, like Saul on the road to Damascus. Even from blocks away, the vituperation sent in the Dotard's direction must have been deafening...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2020-06-02 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I do not like feeling hatred toward anyone. Trump makes it difficult not to hate him. He is so dishonest, arrogant, false and self absorbed it is hard not to hate him.

#5 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-06-02 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The best jingoism.

#6 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-06-02 01:21 PM | Reply

I could have said this a thousand times by now, but can you imagine if Obama or Hillary did this?

#7 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-06-02 01:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I do not like feeling hatred toward anyone. [...]#5 | Posted by moder8

I dunno if it helps address your feelings, but there's a pretty good chance he's mentally ill.

Just speaks volumes that 40-45 percent of this country is still willing to climb aboard his "crazy" train.

#8 | Posted by censored at 2020-06-02 01:40 PM | Reply

www.msn.com

WASHINGTON " A day after a much-criticized photo op at a fire-damaged church near the White House, President Donald Trump took his anti-protester "law and order" message to a Catholic shrine, a visit that drew swift condemnation from a top church official.

Washington Archbishop Wilton D. Gregory slammed the presidential visit in a statement shortly before the Trumps' arrival.
"I find it baffling that and reprehensible that any Catholic facility would allow itself to be so egregiously misused and manipulated in a fashion that violates our religious principles, which call us to defend the rights of all people even those with whom we might disagree," Gregory said in a statement.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-02 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I don't think we should read too much into this.

Trump was angry because the word leaked out that he'd been shuffled off to the bunker along with the women and children. It's not the first time a president has been moved to the bunker for safety reasons.

Trump, however, (fragile as he is) saw it as an affront to his masculinity, which is already non-existent. Plus he's been called a bone-spur coward like forever.

Granted this hastily arranged "personal appearance" (like most of his phony put up jobs) convinced nobody of anything, least of all any genuine sincerity. For a "showman" that performance was awful. A cardboard cutout would have looked better.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-02 02:09 PM | Reply

First it was the Episcopalians that Trump pissed-off with his photo-op in front of St. John's Church, but not before the Secret Service had evicted the church's pastor and a seminarian who were going about church business on church property when they were forcibly removed.

Now today, he's getting an earful from the Catholic Archbishop of Washington for staging another photo-op, this time in front of the shrine dedicated to St. John Paul II.

Washington archbishop denounces Trump visit to Catholic shrine as 'baffling' and 'reprehensible'

www.usatoday.com

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#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-02 02:27 PM | Reply

This whole stunt disgusted me entirely. The use of force to pull it off simply made things worse.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-06-02 02:32 PM | Reply

And let's ponder this hypothetical for a moment...

Just imagine what American politicians and the President would do and say if a leader of an Arab country, brandishing a Quran in hand stood in front of a mosque in the middle of nationwide protests vowing to use the military to quell demonstrations.

twitter.com

OCU

#13 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-02 02:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Obviously Trump has never read Leviticus, or he would have had second thoughts about holding up a Bible while trying to make some political point, because if he had, he would have learned the punishment handed-out to those who commit blasphemy:

Leviticus 24:13"16. ... Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall stone him.

OCU

#14 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-02 02:57 PM | Reply

I have a former student who has expressed on Facebook how much he admires this move by Trump as a way of reminding our country to get back in touch with God and to pray about the things that are going on.

So while this is a cynical, jingoistic ploy to pretty much anyone paying attention, it apparently is STILL speaking to Trump's base.

I try to avoid picking political fights on Facebook with former students for a WIDE variety of reasons, but that one was reeeeallllly hard.

#15 | Posted by dylanfan at 2020-06-02 03:46 PM | Reply

Boy, the more Dotard eats his fee fees the more his neck resembles a mangina. I wonder if he ever grabs himself by the neck.

#16 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-06-02 03:55 PM | Reply

The State just co-opted a Church.

Republicans don't care.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-02 04:24 PM | Reply

One wonders how this destroys the theory of separation of church and state, when a president can use an unwilling church for his own ends

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-02 04:25 PM | Reply

I could have said this a thousand times by now, but can you imagine if Obama or Hillary did this?

#7 | POSTED BY DEREK_WILDSTAR

The protestors would be dressed in camo and carrying long arms and they would occupy federal buildings.

See "Cliven Bundy" for further details.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-02 05:13 PM | Reply

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

The POTUS twice using, against their wishes, church property for his own ends.

Well, there is another right, conservatives won't defend.

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-02 05:23 PM | Reply

None of that ---- counts. Covid season.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-02 05:25 PM | Reply

Another phony display of power, much like when he literally hugs a flag. He's sweet-talking his base again. He's giving the evangelicals a quick handy so they don't get too worked up about the militarization of America.

#22 | Posted by cbob at 2020-06-02 05:27 PM | Reply

The whole thing was orchestrated like a movie, directed by Cecil (Stephen) B. DeMille(r), in which Trump stands bravely and declares,

I am your Moses, and I shall lead you to the promised land. I have parted the waters of the Lafayette Sea by the power of this bible and these righteous soldiers of God and their holy tear gas and truncheon. Let us flee the China virus, let us flee the forces of the pharaoh, or as I call them, the Antifa!

[Music rises. Fade to black.]

#23 | Posted by cbob at 2020-06-02 05:33 PM | Reply

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To get to St. John's Episcopal Church.

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-02 05:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 8

The whole thing was orchestrated like a movie, directed by Cecil (Stephen) B. DeMille(r), in which Trump stands bravely and declares,
I am your Moses, and I shall lead you to the promised land. I have parted the waters of the Lafayette Sea by the power of this bible and these righteous soldiers of God and their holy tear gas and truncheon. Let us flee the China virus, let us flee the forces of the pharaoh, or as I call them, the Antifa!
[Music rises. Fade to black.]
#23 | Posted by cbob

Sounds more like a Leni Riefenstahl joint

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-02 05:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds more like a Leni Riefenstahl joint

#25 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2020-06-02 05:39 PM | FLAG:

You're hurting little Stephen's feelings.

#26 | Posted by cbob at 2020-06-02 05:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Do rats have feelings?

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-02 05:44 PM | Reply

Do rats have feelings?

#27 | Posted by truthhurts

The ones who aren't sociopaths, yes.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-02 05:52 PM | Reply

I have parted the waters of the Lafayette Sea by the power of this bible prop...

...that I had someone carry over here for me to hold.

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-06-02 05:59 PM | Reply

The Episcopal Church doesn't matter any more, they stand for a Christianity so watered down and addicted to trends, no one can say what they stand for.

#30 | Posted by docnjo at 2020-06-02 06:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Let me read from 3 Galoshes... wait, 2 Chrysanthemums?
Anyway, I like all the testaments. They're all tremendous. Really good book.

So as you can see, I'm holding this bible. Just something I do sometimes, read the Bible. Go to church. All that. Please take photographs if you must.

*bursts into flames*

#31 | Posted by cbob at 2020-06-02 06:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Episcopal Church doesn't matter any more, they stand for a Christianity so watered down and addicted to trends, no one can say what they stand for.
#30 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

^
Episcopal Churches Don't Matter.
This message brought to you by the Black Lives Don't Matter Movement.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-02 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

no one can say what they stand for.

#30 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Apparently it's all in a magical black book called the Bible. You hold it. You twirl it. You don't read from it. Because you have forgotten how?

No worries because next is the fun part... While mumbling gibberish you hold it upside down while at the same time you send your military to dominate peaceful American Citizens protesting on your doorsteps. Your deplorable disciples direct their holy warriors with sacred military precision using holy rubber bullets aromatic tear gas (to set the mood) and then you send the horsemen of the apocalypse into the crowd to mop up.

Amen.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-02 06:42 PM | Reply

"Black lives will mater when black lives mater to black people."

No way. We could impose our will on them, just like we did before with slavery, and Jim Crow.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-02 07:12 PM | Reply

"95% of black murders is committed by other black young men."

It's about 77% for whites.
White lives will mater when white lives mater to white people.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-02 07:30 PM | Reply

"13% of the country is black, the vast majority of the homicides are committed by young black men between 16 to 30"

Not really, no.
First of all, "vast majority" is too strong. It's a slim majority, at best.
Second, something like 60% of homicides are unsolved.
If you want to put those on blacks, then I'll point out the systemic racism of the police allowing murders to go unsolved largely in the black communities.

But let me ask you something:

2017 Crime In The United States
Expanded Homicide
"Of the offenders for whom gender was known, 88.1 percent were male.
ucr.fbi.gov

Why don't you ever, ever say murder is a male problem, and look at it that way?
Why do you have to bring race into it, when gender explains it even better?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-02 08:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm outraged!

Good...now do something about it.

#39 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-06-02 11:03 PM | Reply

That minister hated Trump before this.

That's sad, because rioters set her church on fire.
And she couldn't/wouldn't mention that.

#40 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2020-06-03 08:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Do they hate Trump or do they hate his actions?:

Catholic leader in Washington calls Trump's shrine visit 'reprehensible'

"I find it baffling and reprehensible that any Catholic facility would allow itself to be so egregiously misused and manipulated in a fashion that violates our religious principles, which call us to defend the rights of all people even those with whom we might disagree," the archbishop, Wilton Gregory, said in a statement issued as the president's motorcade traveled to the Saint Paul II National Shrine.

www.unionleader.com

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-06-03 08:29 AM | Reply

That's sad, because rioters set her church on fire.

And she (the Bishop) couldn't/wouldn't mention that.

#40 | Posted by drivelikejehu

She actually did, JEHU. I listened as she did it.

We had an arsonist nobody who started a fire and then a president who came out and took advantage of the fire that was set.

Start going to church, JEHU. You can't convince me you do now.

#42 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-03 08:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#42 - well done, Zed. Yahoos like JEHU shouldn't be permitted with getting away with obfuscating and lying.

#43 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-03 08:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That minister hated Trump before this.
#40 | POSTED BY DRIVELIKEJEHU AT 2020-06-03 08:21 AM | REPLY | FUNNY: 1

...therefore it's OK for the President to co-opt the church and the Bible for his own selfish and blasphemous ends? Is that what you're saying? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

This was reprehensible, full stop. Any God-fearing Christian should be in the forefront of denouncing the teargas, the clearing of the square (and church), and the corrupting of sacred symbols and places for political gain. But I forget, many Christians are Trump-fearing rather than God-fearing these days.

#44 | Posted by bartimus at 2020-06-03 11:16 AM | Reply

"The Episcopal Church doesn't matter any more, they stand for a Christianity so watered down and addicted to trends, no one can say what they stand for.
#30 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2020-06-02 06:24 PM"

Riiiight.

That explains why President Trump chose them for the photo op backdrop.

ROFLMAO!!!

Thanks for illustrating the meaning of "sour grapes".

#45 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2020-06-03 12:45 PM | Reply

If we're going to make this a Bible verse competition, how about the New Testament?

"Obey the Government"

No...lets forget that one. Doesn't fit the narrative.

#46 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-03 04:56 PM | Reply

"Obey the Government"

Which verse is that, exactly?

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-03 06:12 PM | Reply

#46 - The greek words don't convey "Obey", and it makes no sense to interpret the text that way given Peter escaped jail and skipped out on his trial, and Paul hid from authorities and then had himself lowered in a wicker basket from an opening so he would end up outside the city walls - thus escaping capture and imprisonment.

This would be a very good "Bible Lesson" you should request BillJohnson If you have someone competent you'll learn two new greek words. Hupotasso and hupakouo.

Remember, Jesus life (and his Apostles) were all about disobeying man's laws that were in conflict with God's, but submitting himself to the legal consequences for his actions.

Until Peter and Paul, that is Those rascals!

#48 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-03 11:21 PM | Reply

So he had a pastor or minister or reverend or whatever removed from their church at gun point after his goon squad gassed and shot rubber bullets at unarmed civilians?

That time he served "hamberders" to a football team is going to go down as the highest point of his presidency.

#49 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-06-04 07:15 AM | Reply

That time he served "hamberders" to a football team is going to go down as the highest point of his presidency.

#49 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD AT 2020-06-04 07:15 AM | FLAG:

That's a narrow view. He'll be gone after this year, and we'll have managed to go 4 years without invading a country. We have to take the wins where we can find them. All it took was a pandemic, race riots, and shattered economy to not put other countries to the torch.

#50 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-04 09:16 AM | Reply

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