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On Wednesday afternoon, as I visited the site where demonstrators were gassed and manhandled, I wondered whether Trump's attempt at division might not be having the opposite effect.

The passionate but entirely peaceful crowd was much larger than Monday's, and I was struck by its rainbow diversity; African Americans may have been a plurality, but there were also whites, Latinos and Asian Americans in substantial numbers.

I ran into the Rev. Rob Fisher, rector of St. John's, who said he had been given no warning that the president intended to use his church as a backdrop for photographs that are already being used in Trump campaign ads. "The only way to the next step is that voices need to be heard, not tanks and guns," Fisher said.

Chris Bostick, who is black, and his friend Jordan Gault, who is white, both work as bartenders and are currently out of work. They said it was important to them to be physically present. Gault held a sign that read, "Whites are not all racists, Blacks are not all criminals, Cops are not all killers, We are all human."

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-06-05 07:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump, ever a child of television's truncated presentation of history - as filtered through his stunted mind - and never a student of historical nuance, seems to think he's back in 1968. The past, as is often observed, is another country. But history doesn't "repeat itself" (although as Mark Twain observed it sure does rhyme a lot). This isn't "Groundhog Day." And it's not 1968, although there's similarity. That said, a larger portion of the populace seems to be sympathetic to the crowds - which are far more diverse than back in 1968.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-06-05 07:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2 | POSTED BY DOC_SARVIS

There was one protest in Idaho perhaps? They had hundreds there. Not a single black person. The only black resident had moved away. But hundreds of people still came out to protest and show support.

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-06-05 04:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's been very powerful to see so many people quietly say no to the conservative version of America.

#4 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2020-06-05 04:58 PM | Reply

It's been very powerful to see so many people quietly say no to the conservative fascist/authoritarian version of America.

Though I don't subscribe to a lot of it, there is nothing inherently wrong with principled conservatism. But that is not what is driving the Republican Party these days.

One of the most heartening aspects of today's open revolt has been the sheer numbers of unabashed conservatives who've publicly and oftentimes forcefully come out in unqualified opposition to the politics and actions of the man currently sitting in the White House, blatantly calling his use of governmental power unconstitutional.

#5 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-06-05 06:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump Is Uniting Americans --- Against Him

If any would've told me 10 years ago that future me would be thankful Nancy Pelosi was House Speaker, I'd of laughed until I had a coronary.

#6 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-06-05 06:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#5 - TONYROMA

I agree. Over the last week I have been starting a lot of hard talks with my family about race and white privilege. My family all voted for Trump. It's been surprising, and refreshing, to find out they are not the radicalized white nationalist racists I feared they might lean towards. Just the unintentional ignorant racist. The type that doesn't understand why we have black history month, how to articulate what's wrong with saying "All Lives Matter" and such. Watching Republican leaders like GBii advocates for BLM has been surprising and encouraging. My family will likely always be conservative. My goal in talking with my family is not to have them vote for Joe Biden but just to sit this election cycle out. Take one for team America. Don't vote for Trump.

Trump has gone so far over the edge in his handling of BLM and the current crisis it is becoming near impossible to separate voting for Trump from being a white nationalist. Good. Now that we know who they are and what we're dealing with maybe we can progress as a country to a more equitable quality of life for black Americans.

#7 | Posted by gavaster at 2020-06-05 06:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"principled conservatism"

Can you give us an example of that?

Honestly, this is a term only potentially recognized very very far back in the rear view mirror.

Or really not at all to many. At least not in their lifetimes.

In fact, if an actual example of principled conservatism surfaced and happened......there is a 0% chance it would be Considered that.

#8 | Posted by eberly at 2020-06-05 08:19 PM | Reply

Can you give us an example of that?

The Summit on Principled Conservatism: What it is, what it isn't, & why we need it

... we can jointly acknowledge that the conservative movement has woefully lost touch with the basics: freedom, constitutionalism, limited government, honesty, and decency.

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-06-05 08:51 PM | Reply

At least he can claim he has the biggest protest in the history of protests. Bigger than any Obama protest! So Bigly baby!

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-05 09:30 PM | Reply

Count Drew Brees into the camp critical of Trump:

To @realdonaldtrump

Through my ongoing conversations with friends, teammates, and leaders in the black community, I realize this is not an issue about the American flag. It has never been. We can no longer use the flag to turn people away or distract them from the real issues that face our black communities.

We did this back in 2017, and regretfully I brought it back with my comments this week. We must stop talking about the flag and shift our attention to the real issues of systemic racial injustice, economic oppression, police brutality, and judicial & prison reform.

We are at a critical juncture in our nation's history! If not now, then when?

We as a white community need to listen and learn from the pain and suffering of our black communities. We must acknowledge the problems, identify the solutions, and then put this into action. The black community cannot do it alone. This will require all of us.

www.instagram.com


#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-06-05 10:37 PM | Reply

"principled conservatism"
Can you give us an example of that?
Honestly, this is a term only potentially recognized very very far back in the rear view mirror.
Or really not at all to many. At least not in their lifetimes.
In fact, if an actual example of principled conservatism surfaced and happened......there is a 0% chance it would be Considered that.
#8 | POSTED BY EBERLY

^
Just gotta wonder how you type all that... and still identify as a Republican.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-06 01:09 AM | Reply

"One of the most heartening aspects of today's open revolt has been the sheer numbers of unabashed conservatives who've publicly and oftentimes forcefully come out in unqualified opposition to the politics and actions of the man currently sitting in the White House, blatantly calling his use of governmental power unconstitutional."

I was listening to Smerconish yesterday afternoon. His guest was discussing the Lincoln Project (lincolnproject.us), which is a Conservative group dedicated to defeating Trump in the next election. This discussion turned to GWB, who has been a target of Trump. Bush didn't vote for Trump in 2016, and there was a question as to whether or not he would vote for Biden in the next election. And if he did announce he was voting for Biden, what effect would it have on republicans.

Trump's supporters are Trumpians. They like him for him. They don't seem to care about his policies. I don't think the opinion of actual Republicans is going to matter much.

#13 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-06-06 04:13 AM | Reply

And what all the retired four stars need to be thinking about is what happens if Trump loses (which looks like the most likely outcome) and tries to nullify the election results. I think that is highly unlikely, but the US needs to be prepared for the worst.

#14 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-06-06 04:16 AM | Reply

MAD

He can nullify the election all the way to the Supreme Court if he wants (at his own expense). Because even without an election,,, as of January 21, 2021 he and Pence are no longer President and VP. There is no "hold over" option in the Constitution.

After that it get's kind of complicated (and messy). If Nancy Pelosi keeps her seat in the House, she could become President (pro tem) with full authority (except to declare war).

That why no other president has ever considered the idea. It's one of the worst ideas imaginable.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-06 07:18 AM | Reply

9

That's not an example of it. It's merely an article about a summit.

Anything they walked out the door and announced as an agenda item? If so, then post it and we can call it racist.

My point is that anything done that you would reference as principled conservatism is racist homophobic bigotry coddling the rich and mean spirited until it's 40 years old. Until the act is 40 years old, it won't get called anything but that.

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2020-06-06 07:24 AM | Reply

MAD

Here's an informative link to my #15

www.vox.com ~ CAN TRUMP CANCEL THE NOVEMBER ELECTION? . . . . NO!

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-06 07:29 AM | Reply

Trump doesn't even have the authority to cancel a state's primary. It can be done but it's up to the governor. I haven't researched it but it stands to reason that any Republican governor who makes that decision would sacrifice their electoral vote in the general.

Trump is capable of going to wild extremes if his internal polls look bad. Threats, goon squads, etc.

#18 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-06 07:46 AM | Reply

Elections are about what people get in return. That is what a representative does for you.

Problem is, our elected representatives are given a blank proxy sheet.

If my proxy sits in for me at the Mahjong table, I know the limitations of their authority. They will be attempting to win the game, but the rules are narrowly written.

Sometimes I think people forget that they elect people who will vote how they want to and not how their constituency do.

Why did you vote for your candidate?

I want a job, better pay, lower tuition, cheaper housing, a brighter future.

Okay. How do you feel about US trade with New Zealand involving lumber?

Your city wants to convert a farm into a museum display of different garden gnomes used in the US. The cost of upkeep hasnt been decided as to whether a tax will be used for funding.

Your State wants to make you responsible for the cost of stopping weeds from your yard going into your neighbor's yard.

Trump and Clinton and Obama and Bush and Nixon and etc all were elected because they offered and got people what they wanted. Our Legislatures are the same.

I got mine.

So, when a representative makes a choice we dont agree with, why are we mad? That proxy vote was carte blanche. We the people gave no limitations. The only limit is the next election (unless there is a recall method which is simply another word for election).

Oh, election is elect, to choose, someone.

Did you know every person you elected is responsible for the riots, which in turn, means you are responsible for riots. Your elected officials' vote came with your permission no matter how much you hate it.

#19 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-06-06 07:54 AM | Reply

Trump Is Uniting Americans --- Against Him

A leftist wet dream.

#20 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 08:04 AM | Reply

Correction.

Another leftist wet dream.

After two successive failed impeachment attempts, you people never learn.

Joe Biden is worse than Hillary.

You might as well give Trump another term in office on a silver platter.

#21 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 08:32 AM | Reply

RAY

When people get angry all over the country, whatever the reason, all the bucks stop with the President.

When intense anger infiltrates a mob, it doesn't need need any rhyme or reason. It just is.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-06 08:42 AM | Reply

That's not an example of it. It's merely an article about a summit.

Jesus Eberly, why are you so obtuse? Did you see the definition of the "basics" regarded as "principled conservatism"?

Freedom, constitutionalism, limited government, honesty, and decency - these are the "principles" conservatism - as a governing system - are based upon. Do you really want to argue otherwise?

I could care less about the summit, the definition you asked for was emboldened. You know I always source what I post so others can check for themselves that something isn't being misrepresented or cherry-picked in a way the totality of the sourcing actually doesn't convey.

I have no idea what your word-soup means as it relates to the simple definition I wrote my original post to denote. To restate:

Though I don't subscribe to a lot of it, there is nothing inherently wrong with [freedom, constitutionalism, limited government, honesty, and decency]. But that is not what is driving the Republican Party these days.
Anything that is honest and decent is not going to be "racist homophobic bigotry coddling the rich and mean spirited."

What I meant is perfectly clear. What you mean I can't begin to understand because it makes no sense whatsoever.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-06-06 09:03 AM | Reply

After two successive failed impeachment attempts,

WTF are you babbling about? Trump was impeached by the House, but he wasn't convicted by the Senate. There was no second attempt, there has only been one.

#24 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-06-06 09:06 AM | Reply

That's the alternative universe for you.

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-06-06 09:49 AM | Reply

WTF are you babbling about? Trump was impeached by the House, but he wasn't convicted by the Senate. There was no second attempt, there has only been one.
#24 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Yes Trump was formally impeached. It was meaningless.

The goal of impeachment is to remove a president from office. So far Trump is still in office.

The second attempt was more flimsy than the first.

I remember well on this site the dreams of Trump's removal. You especially.

#26 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 10:24 AM | Reply

When people get angry all over the country, whatever the reason, all the bucks stop with the President.
When intense anger infiltrates a mob, it doesn't need need any rhyme or reason. It just is.
#22 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

So true.

But if you think logically, Trump has been in office for too short a time to do all this damage. This has been building up for decades.

#27 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 10:27 AM | Reply

You can tell Ray loves Trump.

Having the federal government run in bad faith by a complete moron is the closest thing to his wet dream of anarchy he'll ever see in his life.

#28 | Posted by JOE at 2020-06-06 10:36 AM | Reply

Enjoy it while you can, Ray. Me and my kids will just have to pick up the pieces when you and other pieces of ---- like you are gone.

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2020-06-06 10:37 AM | Reply

You can tell Ray loves Trump.
#28 | POSTED BY JOE

You are assuming I have only two choices: for Trump or against Trump.

I choose neither.

If you of mind to look beyond Trump, you'll see a monstrous institution, big government.
The larger it grows, the poorer Americans get with the exception of the ruling elites.
That's been the trend for the past hundred years.

Trump is only a distraction.

#30 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 11:00 AM | Reply

But if you think logically, Trump has been in office for too short a time to do all this damage. This has been building up for decades.

#27 | POSTED BY RAY

Stop "thinking" and open your eyes Ray.

Trump has no idea what America is about and in his criminal bungling he is eating away at our democratic ideals.

He is so afraid of the people he had to build a wall around himself to keep the wretched masses back.

And you paid for it again. And you pay and pay and you will keep paying until he is gone.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans that would have lived with effective and rational leadership will not survive this presidency.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-06 11:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is only a distraction.

#30 | Posted by Ray at 20

No.

Donald Trump on some level knows what he wants and what he is doing. He's not an evil genius but a selfish man who has had lots of practice getting what he wants.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-06 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I remember well on this site the dreams of Trump's removal. You especially.
#26 | POSTED BY RAY

Trump should have been removed. Trump will be removed in November. Turns out that the impeachment process is a bad joke.

The Representatives of the People could not do their job and uphold their oaths of office so the People themselves will do the job.

Right now they have the King Rat cornered. But watch it. This Rat bites. Bigly.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-06 11:38 AM | Reply

Trump is only a distraction.
#30 | POSTED BY RAY

Ray is only a distraction.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-06 01:35 PM | Reply

"After that it get's kind of complicated (and messy)."

So...you seem good at this.

Try and envision a situation where Trump loses, but is unwilling to accept the results and declares himself president. Is there any circumstance where you see that as being possible.

I ask because if you can see it, he certainly does.

#35 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-06-06 02:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Of course Trumps sees it. But being a coward, Trump is most likely to step down while yelling and screaming about voter fraud and liberal lies, and threatening lots of lawsuits. That would be more his style.

#36 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-06-06 03:33 PM | Reply

Trump loses reelection.

If Biden is President, will you guarantee no more riots will occur the next 4 years. 8 years. 12 years?

This is Pre-Trump and will be post Trump.

Who has been in office longer than Trump?

#37 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-06-06 03:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Who has been in office longer than Trump?

#37 | POSTED BY PETROUS AT

Lindsey Graham's pickle snniffin, wallowed out sss.

What are you getting at here??

#38 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-06-06 07:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What are you getting at here??

#38 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2

He knows that Trump will lose and wants to rain on your parade.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-06 07:42 PM | Reply

MAD @ #35

"Try and envision a situation where Trump loses, but is unwilling to accept the results and declares himself president. Is there any circumstance where you see that as being possible."

Not only possible, but likely. But the date of January 20 is carved in stone. If Trump loses the election, or if something catastrophic prevents an election, there is still no provision in the Constitution that allows a "hold over." On January 20, Trump's term expires and he officially becomes "citizen" Trump.

If you'll read the link I posted (#17) it explains the messy part about choosing a President Pro Tem.


#40 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-06 07:48 PM | Reply

Trump will be removed in November.
#33 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Especially if he's reelected.

#41 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 08:16 PM | Reply

Ray is only a distraction.
#34 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

That's because you follow me around more than anybody else.

#42 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 08:18 PM | Reply

He knows that Trump will lose

#39 | POSTED BY ZED AT

Funny thing.

The armed rrrrrrriiiiiiiiggggghhhhhtttttt wing groups who used to say things like:

"YEAH! Tread on me harder, big daddy don. Tear my throat up like a few dozen gay porn stars have ripped Lindsey Graham's bttthole apart! Gimme a big igloo!!!"

Are now saying things like:

"See,,,, told ya. Gubmint is bad, mmmmkay?"

#43 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-06-06 08:21 PM | Reply

follow me around

#42 | POSTED BY RAY

Yap.

It's not just pasty white twwts like you who like mayo.

Occasionally you'll turn the head of a decent person smelling like that.

#44 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-06-06 08:23 PM | Reply

MAD

"declares himself president."

He can "declare" himself the Grand Poohbah of the Universe and it won't mean a thing after his term expire on Jan. 20th.

#45 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-06 08:44 PM | Reply

MAD @ #35
"Try and envision a situation where Trump loses, but is unwilling to accept the results and declares himself president. Is there any circumstance where you see that as being possible."
Not only possible, but likely. But the date of January 20 is carved in stone. If Trump loses the election, or if something catastrophic prevents an election, there is still no provision in the Constitution that allows a "hold over." On January 20, Trump's term expires and he officially becomes "citizen" Trump.
If you'll read the link I posted (#17) it explains the messy part about choosing a President Pro Tem.

#40 | Posted by Twinpac

Twin, you are under the misconception that the Constitution means ANYTHING to President ------- or to the Republican party.

There is no doubt that the orange ---------- will claim any election result that does not declare him the winner to be a result of fraud. (if elections are even held)

The next logical step is the bunker bitch (apologies to all female dogs) refuses to concede (can you imagine him EVER conceding-anything?).

This will result in multiple states not certifying their election results ala Florida-2000. God forbid we have any close states.

OR

Some sort of lawsuit filed with the SC. Keep in mind it appears that THIS SC will likely refuse to allow the HoR to see Bunker King's tax returns, despite CLEAR law and precedent.

OR

simple anarchy.

Any of these possibilities could keep Biden from taking the oath of office on January 20. Result: Defacto dictatorship.

So, no, do not expect the mango menace to go quietly into the night.

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-06 08:54 PM | Reply

Twin, you know what else is carved in stone?

1. The Emoluments Clause

2. That he shouldn't blackmail foreign governments to lie about an investigation into his political adversary

3. Release his tax returns upon demand by the HoR

and many other things.

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-06 08:58 PM | Reply

That's because you follow me around more than anybody else.

#42 | POSTED BY RAY AT 2020-06-06 08:18 PM

I'm new here but yes, I can tell tehis site is troll heavy.

#48 | Posted by zetaleph at 2020-06-06 09:50 PM | Reply

It's not just pasty white twwts like you who like mayo.
Occasionally you'll turn the head of a decent person smelling like that.
#44 | POSTED BY MRSILENCEDOGOOD

I'm registered as an anarchist on DR. Haven't voted in thirty years.

I see government as an enemy of common people. Party makes no difference.

#49 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-06 10:24 PM | Reply

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

--Nappy Bonaparte

#50 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-06-07 01:11 AM | Reply

Ray the Ostrich.

Not voting saves the elites the price of buying a vote.

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-07 01:51 AM | Reply

TRUTH

I'm not under any misconceptions. I know Trump has no respect for the Constitution and will bellow like a bull moose if he loses the election.

The point is, he may not but OTHERS DO have respect for the Constitution and that's the part that counts. On January 20,2021 be becomes "citizen" Trump with no authority.

The only avenue open to Trump is an Act of Congress (both houses) before November 3rd to alter that Nov. 3rd date and we all know that's not going to happen, especially the House.

Further complicating anything Trump tries to do to escape the inevitable is ~~ nearly all Republican Senators are on the downticket with Trump and skating on thin ice ~ including Mitch McConnell. There are a few in safe seats but none of them are so fond of Trump that they want to go down with the ship. Their terms expire on the same date as Trumps if they don't get re-elected.


#52 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 03:22 AM | Reply

TRUTH

"Twin, you know what else is carved in stone?
1. The Emoluments Clause
2. That he shouldn't blackmail foreign governments to lie about an investigation into his political adversary
3. Release his tax returns upon demand by the HoR
and many other things."

Yes, all of which fall under the purview of Senate Oversight which is non-existent.

#53 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 03:44 AM | Reply

Many times his (relatively small vs Obama) 2016 inauguration crowd showed up today across America.

Take that, Sean Spicer and Orange Man!!

#54 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-06-07 04:15 AM | Reply

TRUTH

You also might want to keep in mind that January 20th is written into the Constitution. It's not there by an act of congress and therefore cannot be changed by an Act of Congress.

Changing the date would require a call for a Constitutional Convention by 3/4s of the House and Senate and later ratified by 3/4s of all 50 state legislations.

That's what "carved in stone" means.

It could take years.

#55 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 04:22 AM | Reply

Assuming Trump loses, the transfer of power takes place between Nov. 3rd and January 20th at which time Trump will be called a "Lame Duck" with minimum deference to his "authority."

This is when the shock factor starts to register and the fun part REALLY begins.

No doubt Trump will remain in Mar-a-Lago plotting his revenge and burning up the phone lines with his White House and civilian attornies.

He's not going to go quietly into the night. The Capitol Police might be on stand-by (like they were when Dick Cheney refused to vacate his V.P. office space.)

#56 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 04:45 AM | Reply

Take a look at these pictures of protest rallies across the country:

slate.com

#57 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-06-07 04:49 AM | Reply

AU

That's a lot of COVID-19.

#58 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 05:11 AM | Reply

That's a lot of COVID-19 masks

#59 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-06-07 05:37 AM | Reply

Not voting saves the elites the price of buying a vote.
#51 | POSTED BY CORKY

When voters are given two evil choices, the only result can be more evil.

Moral principles are a major blind spot with you, Corky. And with voters in general.

A vote is a vote for a corrupt system and more of the same. It's become a game to see how much one can steal from others.

It took me twenty years of voting to see it. After thirty years of not voting, it's only gotten worse.

#60 | Posted by Ray at 2020-06-07 07:20 AM | Reply

RAY

See, you quit too soon.

#61 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 09:19 AM | Reply

Twin your logic follows the constitution and I agree 100% on what should happen
But
You have to ask yourself "Who is going to enforce it?"

I'm not claiming that any action he takes will be legal or valid but asking what will stop him?

Partly your argument relies on republicans' down ticket voting worries but one part of the danger is the post election process where Republicans won't have that concern plus republicans have shown an indifference to the constitution. Remember when they stole a scotus seat from Obama?

If there is an election expect president zero to claim fraud in o e or two close races that prevent the election from being certified. Then what?

Like 2000 it goes to the scotus with even less legal precedent and validity but what will the scotus do?

I don't have much confidence there but some. Seems like the lawsuits that are there now should indicate something of what their position is vis a vis this president and how they would decide things if it comes to it

Under the right circumstances there is enough chaos for hi to declare an emergency

And again who is going to stop him?

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-07 10:08 AM | Reply

And again who is going to stop him?

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-06-07 10

It could be as easy as telling him to stand down or he'll be arrested.

It could be as easy as finally declaring him the threat to self and others that he is, and then mandating psychiatric observation.

#63 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-07 10:25 AM | Reply

After two successive failed impeachment attempts,

WTF are you babbling about? Trump was impeached by the House, but he wasn't convicted by the Senate. There was no second attempt, there has only been one.

#24 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

(R)tards are horrible at math. In their world 2+2=47.

#64 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-06-07 01:58 PM | Reply

It could be as easy as telling him to stand down or he'll be arrested.

It could be as easy as finally declaring him the threat to self and others that he is, and then mandating psychiatric observation.

#63 | POSTED BY ZED

The secret service and DC police will have no problem forcing him to leave, in cuffs and shackles if necessary. I'm sure their will be a tantrum involved by the Orange Fuhrer.

#65 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-06-07 02:01 PM | Reply

When Trump loses the transfer of blame will start.

#66 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-06-07 02:24 PM | Reply

TRUTH @ 62

"And again who is going to stop him?"

I wouldn't read too much drama into Trump's departure. Keep in mind that Trump is a coward and can't handle face-to-face confrontations.

By the time he walks out of the White House for the last time the transition will be complete and the new administration will be in place. The old president doesn't usually stick around for the inauguration ceremony. Sometimes the old V.P. will show up as a courtesy.

It's the Lame Duck period that will probably be entertaining. I hope the media is there to give us a front row seat.

Like ZED said, if Trump goes all bonkers and starts blubbering, somebody will come and take him away. I doubt if we'll see any frog marching. That isn't dignified.


#67 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 03:31 PM | Reply

The old president doesn't usually stick around for the inauguration ceremony.

I think they usually do. Seems to me the last one that did not was Nixon.

#68 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-06-07 03:36 PM | Reply

- Moral principles are a major blind spot with you, Corky.

Thinking that it is more moral to hide your head in the sand, or elsewhere in your anatomy, than to make the best available choice while werking towards better choices is itself immoral.... and hypocritical.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-07 03:37 PM | Reply

"When voters are given two evil choices, the only result can be more evil."

Do consumers next!

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-07 03:41 PM | Reply

REDIAL

Can you picture Trump showing up at Biden's inauguration ceremony all smiles and hand shakes.

My guess is he'll be back at Mar-a-Lago, with all kinds of celebrities, having a big pity-party for himself.

#71 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-06-07 11:43 PM | Reply

My guess is he'll be back at Mar-a-Lago, with all kinds of celebrities, having a big pity-party for himself.

Probably. :-)

#72 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-06-08 12:24 AM | Reply

When voters are given two evil choices, the only result can be more evil.

It blows my mind that someone of your age could make such a childish, simplistic argument.

Yes, between people like Clinton and Trump, the claim can be made that both would result in "more evil." But how much more evil really does matter, to millions of people, tangibly so.

If there were two people in front of me, one of whom is going to punch me in the face, the other of whom is going to stab me to death, there is a clear choice as to which result is better for me despite both being "bad." It would not be wise in that situation for me to just sit there and complain that both of them are evil and let them fight each other to decide who gets to come after me.

#73 | Posted by JOE at 2020-06-08 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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