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Thursday, June 18, 2020

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the Trump administration cannot carry out its plan to shut down the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which has allowed nearly 800,000 young people, known as "Dreamers," to avoid deportation and remain in the U.S. The decision is a big legal defeat for President Donald Trump on the issue of immigration, which has been a major focus of his domestic agenda.

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President Dunsel with loss #2 this week.

Low energy.

Sad.

#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-06-18 10:19 AM | Reply

Take THAT Jeff.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-06-18 10:24 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Here's a link...

Supreme Court rules Trump administration illegally ended DACA
www.axios.com

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 10:33 AM | Reply

More from the cited article:

..."The dispute before the Court is not whether DHS may rescind DACA. All parties agree that it may. The dispute is instead primarily about the procedure the agency followed in doing so," Justice Roberts wrote in the opinion....

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 10:34 AM | Reply

As I have mentioned for many things Pres trump has done.

I do not dispute the right or ability he has to do such things, but I do dispute the reasons why he does such things.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 10:36 AM | Reply

Roberts again joined the liberal faction on the Court.

The majority opinion written by Roberts states "We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies. 'The wisdom' of those decisions 'is none of our concern.' We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action." That directly counters the Trump admin's argument that the Court does not have authority weigh in on such decisions while at the same time appears to challenge Congress to address the matter.

#6 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-06-18 10:54 AM | Reply

@#3 ... That directly counters the Trump admin's argument that the Court does not have authority weigh in on such decisions ...

Watching Justice Roberts in the past year or two, I am starting to form the opinion that he is looking out for the "separate but equal" aspect of the Judicial branch as it applies to the Supreme Court, countering Pres Trump's (and AG Barr's) supreme dictator view of the Oval Office.

#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So much winning!

With all this winning someone has to lose. Poor Humpy. Turns out Humpy is a loser after all.

It's been a very bad terrible no good week for Humpy. Which means it was a good week for the world!

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-18 11:39 AM | Reply

twitter.com

...@realDonaldTrump

These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives.

We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020!
11:08 AM Jun 18, 2020...


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 11:55 AM | Reply

twitter.com

...@realDonaldTrump

Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me?
11:10 AM Jun 18, 2020...


Why does Pres Trump seem to put things in terms of whether or not someone (or in this case, some entity) likes him or not.

His continuing to do that prevents him from understand the problems we, and he, face.

#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 11:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To quote the next President, "This is a Big Bleeping Deal!"

Should be front page. W/dancing bananas and in super big super bold!!

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-18 12:00 PM | Reply

Super.

Now free the kids.

#12 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-06-18 12:09 PM | Reply

"... DHS did not properly consider "what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients" if the program were to be terminated."

This admin considering the hardship of any of their actions on others isn't really a thing.

I mean, Ayn Rand taught them that "others don't exist", so why should they ever be considered?

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-18 12:11 PM | Reply

Why can't you folks just let trump be dictator. Can't you see what a stable genius he is?

So what if he kills a few million ordinary people and subverts the constitution?

You know your cause is f-ed if he is your last hope.

#14 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-06-18 12:23 PM | Reply

I understand that no one ever knew about the Supreme Court until Trump made it famous.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2020-06-18 12:29 PM | Reply

I mean, Ayn Rand taught them that "others don't exist", so why should they ever be considered?

#13 | POSTED BY CORKY

Don't make me school you again on ayn rand. She is basically writing a fictional love story based loosely on Adam Smith's wealth of nations.

The invisible hand with double entendre. Some people WANT to be raped.

#16 | Posted by kudzu at 2020-06-18 12:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump has already said that he doesn't agree with the Supreme Court, and that he's not going to let their ruling stop him from finding another way to finally deport those 700,000 foreign criminals.

OCU

#17 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-18 12:40 PM | Reply

So many court losses for Trump have turned on his inability to competently follow the law when he does terrible but legal things.

I can guarantee you that in almost all of these cases there was someone in his ear saying "Mr. President yes we can do _____ but for it to be legal we have to do a, b, c and first." And Trump's response was probably "I don't care, do it now, let them sue us."

But even when he loses he just gets to play the victim again and make it all about himself. Attack judges, get his morons riled up, get more and more people to distrust the government. So this isn't really a loss for Trump if you are viewing it from his destructive form of politics.

Just imagine how much more terrible things Republicans could have gotten done had they not elected a stupid, narcissistic POS.

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2020-06-18 12:43 PM | Reply

@#18 ... get more and more people to distrust the government ...

Sometimes I think that one of the main reasons why Republicans hate government is:

    when they are in power they do so poorly at governing.

#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I'm surprised by this ruling to be honest, but I think it was Et Al or Righto who were repeatedly telling us that Roberts would surprise everyone by being the moderate swing vote after Kennedy retired. Looks like he/they were correct.

#20 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-06-18 01:11 PM | Reply

Roberts seems driven to a moderate position by caring about his legacy.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2020-06-18 01:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why does Pres Trump seem to put things in terms of whether or not someone (or in this case, some entity) likes him or not.

His continuing to do that prevents him from understand the problems we, and he, face.

#10- LAMPLIGHTER

Pretty simple, really, with a simpleton like Trump. It's always, always about him. How many times has he said knows more about (insert topic here) than anyone else?

But the heart of the matter is his malignant narcissism. He empathizes with exactly no one, requires adoration at all times, cuts ties with and attacks every person who even hints at a difference of opinion, and complains that he's being maliciously humiliated, without merit, whenever he is directly challenged. Today's targets happen to be a conservative justice, a niece and his former National Security Adviser. In his eyes (and by extension the eyes of his cult), all these folks are irrational never-Trumpers involved in a plot. He never stops to consider that maybe he's doing something wrong. Because he's incapable of self-reflection.

#22 | Posted by cbob at 2020-06-18 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What a slap in the face of Republicans! You guys all put up with the buffoonery of Trump in the hopes that by stacking the SC you would be able to force unjust changes on the rest of us. Guess what fascists, YOU LOST. LGBQT and DACA rights are not going anywhere. In a way this is inevitable. Even if you were to put nine hardcore fascist right wingers on the Supreme Court, a majority would still find a way to curb the worst impulses of the rightwing movement. Sane people are not going to lead us off the cliff like a pack of lemmings just because rightwing fanatics are zealous about doing so.

#23 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-06-18 01:37 PM | Reply

Generally I think republicans are on the right side when it come to the illegal immigration problem and liberals are not being realistic.

Simply, America must have law and order.

America has every right to (no...has an obligation to) look out for the interests of Americans already here and at the same time help people who need to relocate.

But...do it legally.

Now...children brought here...well...that's a different matter.

That being said, it may not mean the parents can stay if they are here illegally.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-18 01:39 PM | Reply

@#24 ... Generally I think republicans are on the right side when it come to the illegal immigration problem and liberals are not being realistic. ...

Yes and no.

My view is, and always has been, if you are in the Country illegally, you should leave.

However, I counterbalance that with the problem we have with an economy so deeply based upon illegal immigration.

I would like to see illegal immigration stop. I would also like to see a way to handle immigration properly, and without trashing the economy (anymore, that is, than COVID-19 has trashed it).


... Simply, America must have law and order. ...

Yup. And that extends to corporations and companies that exploit the use of illegal immigrant labor because (1) it is cheap and (2) the companies can abuse the workers without having to worry about the workers complaining.


#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 01:53 PM | Reply

Stay tuned for Stephen Miller's meltdown.

#26 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-06-18 02:43 PM | Reply

It's funny, Dotard railed against this ruling calling it a "shotgun blast to the face." I recall how the Reichwing lost their freaking minds when President Obama rightfully disagreed with SCOTUS on Citizens United. I'm sure none of those hypocrites will say word one about Cheatolini's outburst today.

#27 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-06-18 02:44 PM | Reply

shotgun blasts into the face

Dick Cheney has nothing to do with this.

#28 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2020-06-18 02:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

"The dispute is instead primarily about the procedure the agency followed in doing so"

Check it out: Ending DACA was not adequately predicated!

JeffJ must be over the moon at this victory for Law and Order.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-18 02:50 PM | Reply

I wonder if Pres Trump's two very significant Supreme Court losses will be mentioned by him at Saturday's rally?

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 02:51 PM | Reply

Some are saying that this ruling is a gift for the Republicans running for reelection this fall, with the possible exception of Trump, since this takes the DACA issue off the table. Now that the DACA recipients have gotten protection from the courts, Congress is off the hook having to either do something now or defend what they were planning to do about this during the next Congressional session. Granted, we still need actual Congressional action so that they are protected by law, but it does basically remove this as a campaign issue, as everyone can just say it's no longer an issue that needs immediate resolution, one way or the other.

OCU

#31 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-18 03:07 PM | Reply

@#31 ... Now that the DACA recipients have gotten protection from the courts, ...

They didn't get protection, they got a temporary reprieve.

The Trump administration can try again to nullify DACA, this time using the correct procedures and paperwork.

#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-18 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think it was Et Al or Righto who were repeatedly telling us that Roberts would surprise everyone by being the moderate swing vote after Kennedy retired. Looks like he/they were correct.

Because of one case?

No, "they" will need to wait and see if "they" are correct in the aggregate.

#33 | Posted by JOE at 2020-06-18 03:15 PM | Reply

- Don't make me school you again on ayn rand.

Again??

www.alternet.org

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-18 03:19 PM | Reply

- Some people WANT to be raped.

Thanks for sharing.

#35 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-18 03:20 PM | Reply

Simply, America must have law and order.

The Administrative Procedures Act is a law. Glad to see you agree with today's ruling.

#36 | Posted by JOE at 2020-06-18 03:21 PM | Reply

Why does Pres Trump seem to put things in terms of whether or not someone (or in this case, some entity) likes him or not.

Daddy never loved him?

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2020-06-18 03:27 PM | Reply

Nobody ever loved him.
Nobody.

Maybe Ivanka when she was a little girl.
But then she got her ------- and it got weird for them.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-18 03:30 PM | Reply

#31 | Posted by OCUser

They may use it as a rallying cry, "Keep us in so we can appoint more right wing Federalist Society SC justices and end abortion!"

Despite the fact Trump had unitary control of government and a conservative court his first two years in office, and the SC currently has a conservative majority.

And other social wedge issues they never act on, but only use at election time so they can continue raping the U.S. Treasury for their corporate bosses and wealthy donors.

#39 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-06-18 04:00 PM | Reply

"New polling shows Trump sinking under the seismic events of the moment

www.washingtonpost.com

If this is any indication of a national trend, Trump is indeed headed for a WH exit in January:

A split has emerged between white non-college-educated women and men that could doom Trump

This week's Iowa survey conducted by state polling guru Ann Selzer included a juicy tidbit: Non-college-educated men and women in the Hawkeye State have developed a big difference of opinion over Donald Trump. A giant 54-point chasm of a difference, in fact.

Trump is leading presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden among non-college-educated men by 36 points, but Biden is winning their female counterparts by 18 points. "In 2016, you didn't see that kind of split between male and female in that demographic," Selzer told The Washington Post's Greg Sargent.

www.desmoinesregister.com


#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-06-18 06:00 PM | Reply

And other social wedge issues they never act on, but only use at election time so they can continue raping the U.S. Treasury for their corporate bosses and wealthy donors.

#39 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY

Yes, they better be careful what they wish for. For example, overturning 'Roe v. Wade' would be like killing the goose that's laying the golden eggs when it comes to donations from the religious-Right. Of course, they'd probably drum-up some other 'self-righteous' crusades, like getting Christian prayers back into public schools, allowing candidates to campaign from tax-exempt pulpits or allowing Christian owned businesses to decide who they're willing to serve as customers (of course, if a Hindu or Muslim owned business tried that, the outrage would be heard from coast to coast).

OCU

#41 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-06-18 06:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Trump administration can try again to nullify DACA, this time using the correct procedures and paperwork.

#32 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

That stack of things to do before going to prison is getting kinda Bigly.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-18 07:45 PM | Reply

Some are saying that this ruling is a gift for the Republicans running for reelection this fall, with the possible exception of Trump, since this takes the DACA issue off the table.
#31 | POSTED BY OCUSER

Seems to me that it is the opposite. The Court ruling didn't speak to the validity of DACA but instead it hinged on the incompetence of the Trump administration. The gop candidates should now be expected to explain they're position on the issue and if they continue to trust Trump after he has performed so poorly on the matter.

#43 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-06-19 11:34 AM | Reply

I do not dispute the right or ability he has to do such things, but I do dispute the reasons why he does such things.

#5 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Just because you have the right to do something does not make it right or that you should do it.

Once you mature past childish selfishness you begin to realize this.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-20 11:06 AM | Reply

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