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Friday, June 26, 2020

The true number of Americans who've been infected with COVID-19 may top 20 million, according to new estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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If people would just stop counting the number of cases, there wouldn't be any cases!

What passes for intellect with Trumpers.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2020-06-26 12:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Their minds can't cope with complex mathematical precepts such as counting.

#2 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-06-26 06:12 AM | Reply

I would say it is probably more like 20x's as much.

#3 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-06-26 06:45 AM | Reply

The CDC numbers are already totally inaccurate. Example: since the virus has hit New York oddly enough death from heart attack and cancer have dropped over 80%. Imagine that. Of curse it could not have anything to do with the hospitals getting paid $1300 a head more for virus victims? Right. Even Dr. Birx earlier this month said the CDC numbers could be off by 25%. Of course it couldn't be an attempt to scare the public? Nobody would do that? Riiiight.

Garbage in, garbage out. We have corrupt data so we will never know the true affect of this virus. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt.

#4 | Posted by Gtjr at 2020-06-26 08:27 AM | Reply

#4 | Posted by Gtjr

Not sure where you get your info from but heart attack deaths under CV19 actually SURGED in New York. I don't know anything about the Cancer deaths but I am going to say try again.

#5 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-06-26 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

GTJr, for the benefit of all of us, where do you get your news?
I want to know what to avoid so I don't get my ass handed to me like you just did.

Thank you in advance!

#6 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-26 08:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

According to Joe Biden there's already been 120 million deaths from Covid. He better go back to his basement

#7 | Posted by homerj at 2020-06-26 09:35 AM | Reply

I'll take Biden's minor mistake that he corrected over Trump's hate speech any day of the week.
A million times over, in fact.

#8 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-26 09:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#1 ... If people would just stop counting the number of cases, there wouldn't be any cases! ...

As Virus Surges, Younger People Account for Disturbing' Number of Cases
www.nytimes.com

... Younger people are making up a growing percentage of new coronavirus cases in cities and states where the virus is now surging, a trend that has alarmed public health officials and prompted renewed pleas for masks and social distancing.

In Arizona, where drive-up sites are overwhelmed by people seeking coronavirus tests, people ages 20 to 44 account for nearly half of all cases. In Florida, which breaks records for new cases nearly every day, the median age of residents testing positive for the virus has dropped to 35, down from 65 in March.

And in Texas, where the governor paused the reopening process on Thursday as hospitals grow increasingly crowded, young people now account for the majority of new cases in several urban centers. In Cameron County, which includes Brownsville and the tourist town of South Padre Island, people under 40 make up more than half of newly reported cases....


#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-26 09:52 AM | Reply

#9 | Posted by LampLighter

The thing is I read an article like this and I think "No S__t, what an idiotic article" - let's talk about why. First Young people don't understand, don't care and are invulnerable. They have consistently been in the lead in cases it comes down to more risky behavior. No Masks, go everywhere, gather in groups, gather with people they don't know, etc. Reading the article I honestly don't get it. Why wouldn't 20-44 year old people make up nearly half of the cases? They were pretty close to that right along. Might have even been over 50%.

The average TESTED POSITIVE IN MARCH was 65. WHY? Because unless you were dying you weren't getting tested in February, March or April and even May was spotty. As we have known all along the older you are the more likely you are to become very ill. I knew a couple people in their 20s that were pretty ill in April for a couple weeks. They were not able to get tested and told to just quarantine themselves. The older people that I know are mostly doing whatever they can to avoid it. Staying home, having things delivered, etc. So again more reason to think younger people would be more likely to have it.

#10 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-06-26 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#10

I agree that the higher incidence of younger people nowadays is not a big surprise, I would say it may even have been expected for the reasons you lay out.

But I do not think the article is idiotic for reporting on it happening.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-26 11:02 AM | Reply


It had to happen sooner or later...

COVID-19 Endorses Trump For President
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#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-26 11:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The CDC numbers are already totally inaccurate. Example: since the virus has hit New York oddly enough death from heart attack and cancer have dropped over 80%.

Gonna need a citation for that.

And if true, it's not really surprising if people with compromised cardiovascular systems die. That's one of the primary conditions that makes one highly susceptible to severe disease and death.

Imagine that. Of curse it could not have anything to do with the hospitals getting paid $1300 a head more for virus victims? Right.

Insinuation. Nothing more.

Even Dr. Birx earlier this month said the CDC numbers could be off by 25%.

Birx is an idiot and has proven herself past her prime and completely ineffective in her role.

Of course it couldn't be an attempt to scare the public? Nobody would do that? Riiiight.

Why do righties have to always veer off into conspiracy theory land?

Garbage in, garbage out. We have corrupt data so we will never know the true affect of this virus. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt.

#4 | POSTED BY GTJR

Intellectually lazy thinking that's seeking confirmation of preconceived conclusions. Nothing more.

Overall death rates for the time period of March through now have been way higher than previous years. Some of that is COVID (likely more than we know thanks to the poor testing infrastructure Trump has kept in place) but, and what's harder to quantify, is the number of deaths that are indirectly related to the pandemic. People afraid to go to the hospital for treatment or weren't admitted because of hospital policy owing to COVID.

There's a reason why "flatten the curve" was a mantra for the past three months. And we're going to see why it's important in the near future as our idiot country continues to do it's best to avoid doing so.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2020-06-26 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just as saying the overall lethality rate is lower than the case fatality rate is a truism, so is the statement that the overall number of cases is higher than current stats.

Question is how much higher and that's only answerable by continued widespread, random serology studies. With enough data we'd probably see it's a spectrum as well, with coasts and urban areas containing a much higher percentage of positives than the heartland and rural areas.

As noted, though, if this is accurate that's still not a sign that we're out of the woods. 23 million people isn't even 10% of the population.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-06-26 11:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The CDC numbers are already totally inaccurate. Example: since the virus has hit New York oddly enough death from heart attack and cancer have dropped over 80%.
#4 | POSTED BY GTJR
Not sure where you get your info from but heart attack deaths under CV19 actually SURGED in New York. I don't know anything about the Cancer deaths but I am going to say try again.
#5 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

GTJR,

Do the right thing for your country: Don't vote, don't have kids, quit talking all together, and if possible, leave.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-06-26 01:18 PM | Reply

However bad you think it is it is usually ten times worse.

This virus data has a 2-4 week lag time.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-26 02:12 PM | Reply

#11 | Posted by LampLighter

The reason I see it as idiotic is it doesn't talk about the realities - especially of testing "then" vs testing now. To me it comes across as manipulation. We should be clear and transparent with the facts in reporting.

#17 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-06-26 03:22 PM | Reply

This also means the mortality rate may be closer to .5 percent rather than 5 percent. Still no small number if it infects half our population, but...

I would think Trump would want as many tests run as possible, so he can talk about the low mortality rates. But maths are hard.

#18 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-06-26 04:14 PM | Reply

#18 - that's the difference between the IFR and the CFR.
The projected IFR has ranged from 04 to 1.0 for quite a while now.

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-26 04:15 PM | Reply

That would be 0.4...

#20 | Posted by YAV at 2020-06-26 04:16 PM | Reply

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