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The Senate Intelligence Committee wants the Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense to create a comprehensive, unclassified report concerning unidentified aerial phenomena upon the passing of a Senate appropriations bill initiated by Senator Marco Rubio, Motherboard has learned.

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#1 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-27 05:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's so refreshing to see Republicans in the Senate doing the important work to get America back on track.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-27 05:41 PM | Reply

#2 Agreed.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-06-27 05:57 PM | Reply

If you haven't watched it a link is
www.history.com

This isn't your typical UFO show. It's seems more researched. Was shown last year.

As a result of this airing, 3 classified videos have been released and verified as real taken from the Nimitz and Roosevelt pilots.

Also, it would appear this Senate investigation sprung from this 6 part series shown on the History Channel.

Apparently a problem has been for decades the government has known of strange events but no one was willing to destroy their career to look into it.

Crafts that seem to be able to go from stationary to several times the speed of sound nearly instantaneous and defy gravity.

These have been recorded on video and radar and lots of witnesses over the years. They also go under water and move faster than any sub. And not one here or there. Sometimes it's several of them traveling in groups.

Sounds like some of the sci-fi movies I've seen.

But this isn't a movie. Are they part of our secret military research, or someone elses?

They have tended to follow Navy ships for decades and be interested in nuclear technology.

Apparently the reason Congress is now taking it more serious is because some are questioning if this is a real threat to national security.

If viruses, the economy and angry people aren't enough to deal with.

#4 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 09:05 PM | Reply

"Crafts that seem to be able to go from stationary to several times the speed of sound nearly instantaneous and defy gravity."

They probably found no intelligent life, and headed home.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-06-27 09:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dan,

The point of the series was to examine the possibility it is advanced military research or something else.

Very advanced.

Or it's part of some elaborate scheme to play us into thinking it's...well...aliens...to deflect the conversation from whatever it really is.

#6 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 09:17 PM | Reply

Who bloody cares about UFO's. I mean really who bloody cares.

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-06-27 09:23 PM | Reply

Laura,

Hey....maybe aliens don't have genders.

That's worth a discussion.

#8 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 09:29 PM | Reply

I don't care. They don't live here so. Besides they only want to do a hiney probing so.

#9 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-06-27 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Aliens lacking genders might have the same advantages gay men have.

I mean...gay men can be their own object of desire.

Straight men have to sexually objectify the opposite sex.

Gay men can sexually objectify themselves.

Maybe if aliens lacked having a specific gender, they could be their own best friend.

You have to do something to fill all those light-years you spend in space.

#10 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 09:46 PM | Reply

@#4 ... If you haven't watched it a link is...

This isn't your typical UFO show. It's seems more researched. Was shown last year. ...

I watched that show, and have cited it previously on this august message board.

I still am not saying they are "alien crafts."

All I want to see/hear at this point is an explanation of how the things filmed can do what they do.

Unless and until I see an proper explanation, I will continue to use UFO (Unexplained Flying Object) as an appellation for these types of events.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-27 09:48 PM | Reply

@#10 ... Gay men can sexually objectify themselves. ...

You really haven't a clue, do you?

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-27 09:50 PM | Reply

Laura,

"Besides they only want to do a hiney probing so."

What can you do?

Aliens...humans... they're all the same.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 09:51 PM | Reply

Lamps,

"I still am not saying they are "alien crafts."

And neither did the show.

At no point was it said it is aliens.

Only flying objects of unknown origin.

Read my post. I never said it is aliens.

That's just it. That's what Congress is looking into.

What is it?

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 09:55 PM | Reply

Heliumrat - you have no idea how much I wish the crap you post was true. No idea. Try harder with your sources.

#15 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-27 09:56 PM | Reply

@#14

Ooops, I meant to agree with your comment #4.

Apologies if my comment came across otherwise.

Unexplained Flying Objects.

How are their movements explained?

#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-27 10:06 PM | Reply

Lamps,

The point made in the show is based on current observations, these things potentially could show up in Washington DC in minutes before we could respond and if we did respond...what would we do?

If this was a known enemy that had that capability we'd be making this a high priority.

We might have very advanced technology and it's kept secret....well...except when it's flying around.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 10:12 PM | Reply

Apparently the reason Congress is now taking it more serious is because some are questioning if this is a real threat to national security.

Nailed it. Unexplained phenomena such as those slowly being released to the public is worth investigating deeper.

#18 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-27 10:13 PM | Reply

@#17 ... If this was a known enemy that had that capability we'd be making this a high priority. ...

Bingo.

Bluntly, it is still unknown (by us mere citizens) whether or not these are friend or foe.


#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-27 10:16 PM | Reply

Lamps,

Can advance to several times the speed of sound very quickly.

Don't appear bound by the laws of physics such as gravity.

Appear to be able to become invisible.

Have been observed flying into the ocean.

Goes back for decades. This isn't a new thing.

Read up about this.
en.wikipedia.org

About 500 AD some very intricate rock cutting. Find whatever videos you can find and watch them.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 10:24 PM | Reply

@#20 ... Find whatever videos you can find and watch them. ...

Been there, done that.

I'm not a "believer" at this point.

But I do watch with interest the various shows. (fwiw, I think "Ancient Aliens" was OK for the first three seasons, then it went off the rails as it tried to remain profitable...)

OK, here's basically what my current view is - we (humans) haven't a clue about the universe in which we reside or how the universe works.

There's a very good show, currently running on the Science channel, called, How The Universe Works (check your local listings) ( www.sciencechannel.com ). It is basically astrophysicists and other scientists talking about what they've recently learned. It's not Keeping Up with the Kardashians, but I enjoy watching it (and I learn things!).

There's an interesting episode on faster than light travel, but you may have to wait a while before it comes around again.

#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-27 10:40 PM | Reply

Lamp,

I've been reading about science theories about controlling gravity and potentially "turning it off".

Perhaps we're seeing something like that.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-27 11:27 PM | Reply

If you want to turn of gravity just ride the Gravitron.

#23 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-06-27 11:34 PM | Reply

Wow it's been more than a year since Hrat posted something that wasn't crap.

As for the task force...that's cool.

The ocean is a big place and anything the US Navy can't identify needs to be placed in a file until it can be investigated.

By Xperts.

#24 | Posted by Tor at 2020-06-28 12:28 AM | Reply

Lamp,

"You really haven't a clue, do you?"

Do you mean that homoeroticism exists in the straight world?

A guy can be straight and aroused by another man on a superficial level.

#25 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-28 12:29 PM | Reply

Why would the Navy be doing this, America has a Space Force. Shouldn't they be the lunatics researching this garbage?

We should be dealing with reality on Earth, it's far more dangerous to all of us than any UFO.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2020-06-28 01:07 PM | Reply

"I've been reading about science theories about controlling gravity and potentially "turning it off"."

There are laws of physics. Sorry, it's just stupid to think you can "turn off" gravity. The laws of physics supercede all idiotic ideas proposed by crazy people.

Realize one thing, if you could "turn off" gravity then you could kill virtually every living thing on the planet within just a few minutes. Our atmosphere would drift off into space. But, fortunately, you can't kill a basic law of physics.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2020-06-28 01:11 PM | Reply

BTW, this thread is a bunch on nonsense.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2020-06-28 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Danni,

You've missed your calling.

Contact Congress and tell them the videos are not possible and there's nothing to be concerned with.

Especially the one where the craft is moving forward at high speed and rotating changing angles to the wind and yet maintaining a perfect flight path forward.

Experts in aerodynamics watching it were surprised.

The laws of physics are not applying.

"Turning off gravity" would only mean the craft has managed to not be impacted by it somehow, and not that gravity is actually turned off.

There's some pretty fantastical work being done by physicists and mathematicians.

We take for granted technical advances today that were impossible at one time.

I'd love to be around in 50 years or 100 years.

#29 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-28 01:49 PM | Reply

Danni,

"Why would the Navy be doing this"

Navy pilots are who happened to record these 3 videos.

I certainly agree that I hope these videos don't represent any threat.

Watch the series for yourself and report back.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-28 02:09 PM | Reply

I hope these videos don't represent any threat.

Watch the series for yourself and report back.

#30 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

I imagine that all the cows also reported back that humans posed no threat.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-28 02:32 PM | Reply

""Turning off gravity" would only mean the craft has managed to not be impacted by it somehow, and not that gravity is actually turned off."

We learned how to fly airplanes, etc. early in the 20th Century. That has nothing to do with "turning off gravity." Gravity is a force created by mass, it exists in everything that has mass. It is why the moon revolves around the Earth and why the Earth circles the sun. Without it we would be adrift in space. The laws of physics aren't temporary or affectable by anyone, they are just the laws of physics. We can fly because we understand the laws of physics and then use that knowledge to allow us to fly through the sky but we do not ever negate those laws, no, instead we use those laws to achieve the results we desire.

#32 | Posted by danni at 2020-06-28 02:59 PM | Reply


In the 20th century, Newton's model was replaced by general relativity where gravity is not a force but the result of the geometry of spacetime.

Under general relativity, gravity is the result of following spatial geometry (change in the normal shape of space) caused by local mass-energy. This theory holds that it is the altered shape of space, deformed by massive objects, that causes gravity, which is actually a property of deformed space rather than being a true force. Although the equations cannot normally produce a "negative geometry", it is possible to do so by using "negative mass". The same equations do not, of themselves, rule out the existence of negative mass.

Both general relativity and Newtonian gravity appear to predict that negative mass would produce a repulsive gravitational field.

#33 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-28 03:17 PM | Reply

Danni,

I put "turn off gravity" in quotes for a reason.

#34 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-28 03:23 PM | Reply

Danni,

I have absolutely no idea how the craft in one particular video was doing what it did.

And according to the men in the series, the experts watching it didn't either.

The craft wasn't moving in a manner that was consistent with their understanding of aerodynamics.

No more...no less.

#35 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-28 03:27 PM | Reply

How can a cold craft moving at speed, expel incredibly hot exhaust. Exhaust so hot that it burned the surrounding landscape on the ground?
drudge.com

#36 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-28 03:45 PM | Reply

All I want to see/hear at this point is an explanation of how the things filmed can do what they do.
Unless and until I see an proper explanation, I will continue to use UFO (Unexplained Flying Object) as an appellation for these types of events.
#11 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Check out Bob Lazar's interview on Joe Rogan's podcast.

He does a great job explaining how they think these things work from his team's attempts to reverse engineer unidentified craft, one of which he claims was found through an archaeological dig.

Comes down to electromagnetism and gravity.

#37 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-06-28 04:35 PM | Reply

BTW, this thread is a bunch on nonsense.
#28 | POSTED BY DANNI

Congress is taking this issue seriously.

You should too.

#38 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-06-28 04:40 PM | Reply

#32 | POSTED BY DANNI

JFC.

You're incredibly short sighted.

#39 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-06-28 04:41 PM | Reply

We have a warp drive, it's called the Alcubierre drive: en.wikipedia.org

In a few years we will have the fusion power source for it. Lockheed-Martin says it has a compact portable fusion device coming suitible for towns, ships and large planes.

Also, I'm not convinced those are the actual vehicles in the video - those could be force fields around something inside. That would explain the weird rotation.

#40 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-06-28 09:33 PM | Reply

he claims was found through an archaeological dig.
#37 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

That was one of my top 3 my favorite comments of his.
If it is true, wonder where it may have been found

#41 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-28 11:04 PM | Reply

#41 Choco canyon?

#42 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-06-29 03:10 AM | Reply

BILLJOHNSON, you Russians are so weird.

#43 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-06-29 01:33 PM | Reply

Lamp,
"You really haven't a clue, do you?"
Do you mean that homoeroticism exists in the straight world?
A guy can be straight and aroused by another man on a superficial level.
#25 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSONAT 2020-06-28 12:29 PM

I absolutely see that in much of the art and artistry that define several recent generations. Society evolve to be less inhibited in terms of recognizing their own vulnerabilities and strengths and the impulses and reality forming them. Sex is hardly a binary evolution, no matter how hard you try to pray the gay away. The irony being many homosexual people seek refuge in religious studies which often condemns them.

On tpoic: does alien probing alter sexuality? Are they the gay frogs, or are we? Obviously it's a huge ----------- for the Navy, taking so many decades to come to grips with it's altercation..

#44 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-06-29 05:10 PM | Reply

A guy can bestraight and arousedby anotherman on a superficial level.
#25 | POSTED BYBILLJOHNSON

Most guys want to see a little bit of clock in their porn, minus the l. Gives them something to identify with.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-29 05:20 PM | Reply

Red,

A highly educated and experienced doctor I know on sexual matters told me something which is unlike what I hear most people think.

Sexual preference is not a dial you turn one way or the other. left for straight...right for gay.

He said we have 2 dials.

One for gay and one for straight.

I'm sure some people would claim to have 100's of dials.

one for rubber toys, one for fido, one for the vacuum cleaner....and so on.

#46 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-06-29 07:57 PM | Reply

#44 | Posted by redlightrobot

Vestigial mouths and noses, no genitalia - they have to be constructs, grown in vats or something.

These are worker drones - we haven't seen the leaders yet.

But the cattle mutilations, the mouths and -------- being targeted, make me think there are no leaders left - it's just a bunch of dumb drones, mindlessly carrying out their functions. Hence no leadership and no contact. But still trying to understand?

Whatever created the Greys is probably long gone, and all they left behind was some old space trash still doing its job a billion years later.

#47 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-06-29 08:21 PM | Reply

#47 | Posted by HeliumRat

WOW. It's like listening to myself when I was 12. Imagine being an educated adult now reading the crap you keep posting.

#48 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 08:28 PM | Reply

#48 | Posted by billy_boy

You work for them, don't you?

#49 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-06-29 08:32 PM | Reply

"It's like listening to myself when I was 12."

I've noticed this a lot from Deplorables.

It's like they're stuck in some adolescent fake macho mindset when you'd get called gay for rollerblading.
Like when Bill Burr called out Joe Rogan for not wanting to wear a mask because it makes you a -----.

When I was a kid if your parents made you wear a bike helmet you were a -----.
Nowadays I look back to when I was 25 and a bicycle helmet saved my life.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-29 08:51 PM | Reply

Your parents made you wear a helmet when you were 25?!?!

#51 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 09:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Nope, I chose to wear a helmet when I was 25 because I had outgrown the fear of being called a -----; since that is a boy's fear, not a man's fear.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-29 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#51 | Posted by Karabekian

That's the spirit :)

#53 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 09:11 PM | Reply

#49 | Posted by HeliumRat

Yes. I've got this awesome 1950's black Armani suit and matching sunglasses. Soon I'll show up on your doorstep with a couple greys in tow, and we'll wipe your memory.

#54 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 09:49 PM | Reply

BILLJOHNSON, you Russians are so weird.

#43 | Posted by getoffmedz

Oh noes he posted stuff i don't like, he must be a Russian. You all need a new shtick.

Get on the HeliumRat train! It's all about men in black and aliens! What was old is new again. I am agent B. Please look into the light.

#55 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 10:04 PM | Reply

Miss Moneypenny just got hot 'n bothered.

#56 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-06-29 10:09 PM | Reply

Miss Moneypenny just got hot 'n bothered.

#57 | Posted by madscientist at 2020-06-29 10:09 PM | Reply

#55. Just wait until you get a snootful of Monson's schtick.

#58 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 10:14 PM | Reply

#44 | Posted by redlightrobot
Vestigial mouths and noses, no genitalia - they have to be constructs, grown in vats or something.
These are worker drones - we haven't seen the leaders yet.
But the cattle mutilations, the mouths and -------- being targeted, make me think there are no leaders left - it's just a bunch of dumb drones, mindlessly carrying out their functions. Hence no leadership and no contact. But still trying to understand?
Whatever created the Greys is probably long gone, and all they left behind was some old space trash still doing its job a billion years later.
#47 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2020-06-29 08:21 PM

Agreed. They are such advanced hardware, "grown in vats" seems diminishing. Imagine an actual invasion, something to give back to their makers. This is a terrible end game, mutual destruction is inevitable.

#49 | Posted by HeliumRat
Yes. I've got this awesome 1950's black Armani suit and matching sunglasses. Soon I'll show up on your doorstep with a couple greys in tow, and we'll wipe your memory.
#54 | POSTED BY BILLY_BOY AT 2020-06-29 09:49 PM

That is the threat though, isn't it? They use mental conditioning, tools that control your recognition and override emotional status. Paralysis, fear and obedience are ubiquitous with the greylian experience. They are not emotional, recognizing how literally they manipulate ours makes them obvious constructs.

Rewatching Prometheus is painful.. the viewer wants those "scientists" to die so early on, but it's the stupid impregnation and birthday party we have to anticipate. God, what a terribly underwhelming delivery such as delibertely removing helmets, 'cause the stupids. I take it we are the only ones who experienced science fiction, their world seems oblivious to space parasite architecture. So, the greys would fall under control of the Navy? This military endeavor deserves extreme scrutiny. They obviously have outgrown their assigned purpose of belaying tech and now directly modify society, and quite negatively by most accounts. Perhaps equipping science and tech with emotional intelligence allows a breadth of reactions, rather than sheer denial. Anyhow, the redactions that Rcade inserts are so funny, I absolutely feel we should pay him for each one.

#59 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-06-29 10:17 PM | Reply

#58 | Posted by Karabekian

Can't wait! But it will have to be soon, the greys are coming to pick me up shortly for crumpets and a quick round of alien snusnu.

#60 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 10:18 PM | Reply

#60 You're in for a treat. Just hold your nose.

#61 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 10:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#61 | Posted by Karabekian

As I'm actually a monkey/grey hybrid, my nose is purely prosthetic. No holding required. I'll check back in a few days, perhaps. My ride is here, and they hate to be kept waiting. If you look at the NASA live feed in few minutes we'll do a fly by of the ISS.

#62 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 10:36 PM | Reply

Aren't all humans monkey-grey hybrids?

#63 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 10:42 PM | Reply

#63 | Posted by Karabekian

I'm special :)

New design, no nose. Are you watching the NASA live feed? Here we go!

zooooooooooooommmmmmm!!!!!!

#64 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 10:48 PM | Reply

You know they turn the damn thing whenever you guys do a fly-by.

#65 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 10:51 PM | Reply

You know they turn the damn thing off whenever you guys do a fly-by.

#66 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 10:52 PM | Reply

Dang it. We didn't used have that problem so much when we'd mess with that crappy MIR deathtrap. Full disclosure is coming, never fear!

#67 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 10:57 PM | Reply

#63 | Posted by Karabekian
I'm special :)
New design, no nose. Are you watching the NASA live feed? Here we go!
zooooooooooooommmmmmm!!!!!!
#64 | POSTED BY BILLY_BOY AT 2020-06-29 10:48 PM

Isn't that the real reason for a construct? To avoid contamination while allowing "simian-appearing" interaction? They don't seem designed exclusively for us, so your supposition of a "hybridizing" makes too much sense.

I'd prefer the time traveling cat people from Doctor Who rather than Dalek in humanoid-shaped salt and pepper shakers like Cybermen. Either way, NASA is a sham agency and should pay for their insulting garbage technologies.

#68 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-06-29 10:57 PM | Reply

#68 | Posted by redlightrobot

:-)

#69 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-06-29 11:01 PM | Reply

If I've got to disguise myself in an alien form, I pick the Young Han Solo facade.

#70 | Posted by Karabekian at 2020-06-29 11:06 PM | Reply

If I've got to disguise myself in an alien form, I pick the Young Han Solo facade.
#70 | POSTED BY KARABEKIAN AT 2020-06-29 11:06 PM

Seven of Nine seems to turn a lot of heads too.

#71 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-06-30 12:04 AM | Reply

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