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Tuesday, June 30, 2020

Twitch has temporarily banned President Donald Trump, in the latest surprise and high-profile suspension from the streaming service. Trump's account was banned for "hateful conduct" that was aired on stream, and Twitch says the offending content has now been removed.

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WTF is Twitch and why do they have more stones than Twitter?

#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-06-30 08:42 AM | Reply

Twitch is basically for watching people play video games. Not sure why Trump was even on there doesn't seem like a platform with a lot of Trump supporters all though maybe he is going after the incells there.

As to why they have more stones than Twitter, they are owned by Amazon.

#2 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-06-30 08:46 AM | Reply

It's mostly video games, but there's also talk shows, live music, arts & crafts, cooking channels, people wandering around interesting places (pre-covid), and live sports.

They just had a major purge of content creators last week. They banned people characters like Dr. Disrepsect (after having banned, then unbanned him previously) to get back the money they paid them via morality clause after signing him to a "life changing" deal last year. Sexual misconduct allegations.

Every streamer with something to lose, like Jenna Marbles on Youtube, is posting mea culpa videos for previous black face skits and other racist, sexist, and other mean or dumb stuff they've done for views. Trying to salvage their careers. If PewDiePie can pay people to hold up white power signs and still be the #1 guy on Youtube, it will probably work out for them.

#3 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 09:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Twitch is basically for watching people play video games.

Wait. People sit in front of a screen to watch other people play video games?

How sad and pathetic can you get?

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-06-30 09:39 AM | Reply

@#4 ... People sit in front of a screen to watch other people play video games? ...

It gets odder than that.

The people who sit and play the games call themselves "athletes."

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-30 09:49 AM | Reply

eSports Athletes, and the money in it is better than a lot of pro sports.

and it's not odd at all. Old people watch sports because that's what they grew up playing. If they had video games, they'd watch people play them. NFL viewers are now an average 47 years old, Hockey it's 50, MLB is 53.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I remember watching golf tournaments on TV with my Dad. Guaranteed sleep inducing. Watching people play video games??? If anyone ever catches me doing that please shoot me.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2020-06-30 10:06 AM | Reply

@#6 ... the money in it is better than a lot of pro sports. ...

I don't deny that.

I just find it odd that they call themselves "athletes" for sitting around and playing games.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-30 10:28 AM | Reply

I just find it odd that they call themselves "athletes" for sitting around and playing games.
#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2020-06-30 10:28 AM | FLAG:

South Korean marketing starting in 2000 that eventually gained global acceptance, and the nit picking over "athlete" has always been there. Before that it was just a "Video Game Tournament". Keep in mind the Olympics considers Chess a sport, so sports involving just strategy is a real thing.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 10:39 AM | Reply

... Keep in mind the Olympics considers Chess a sport ...

I am talking about the appellation "athlete" not "sport."

Sport is an entirely different concept.

... the nit picking over "athlete" has always been there. ...

That's true. The egamers have always tried to hijack the meaning of the word "athlete" to make themselves look like anything but people who sit around and play games.




#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-30 11:03 AM | Reply

I am talking about the appellation "athlete" not "sport."

The egamers have always tried to hijack the meaning of the word "athlete"

#10 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2020-06-30 11:03 AM | FLAG:

I know. They are linked. esports are just the latest to do it. I refer to Chess because it is a sport per the IOC, and Gary Kasparov is a chess athlete. He's more than happy to argue it with you. Just go to his Twitter.

#11 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 12:05 PM | Reply

@#11 ... He's more than happy to argue it with you. ...

I'll pass. Thanks though. :)

Monty Python...
www.youtube.com

#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-06-30 12:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's going to get murkier. Now there are Augmented Reality eSports where you cover half to ultra marathon distances in 24 hours.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 12:52 PM | Reply

The people who sit and play the games call themselves "athletes."
#5 | POSTED BYLAMPLIGHTER

Typically they call themselves streamers, not athletes.

At the top tier level, where players are literally taking home millions of dollars in prizes and ad sponsorships, and have coaches, training facilities, and teams with fans, the business plays out exactly like professional sports. In that regard they are indistinguishable from professional athletes.

Their heart rate goes up but they don't get real sweaty.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-30 01:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Watching people play video games??? If anyone ever catches me doing that please shoot me.

#7 | POSTED BY DANNI

People watch them to get better themselves at the Game.

If you took that stick out of your butt and joined in the fun you can shoot themif you don't like them.

You might even have fun and forget about Trump and his out of control plague for a second.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-06-30 01:21 PM | Reply

"Watching people play video games??? If anyone ever catches me doing that please shoot me."

There's zero difference between watching people play a pro sport and watching people play video games at the professional level. You're watching people with years of experience and a high degree of skill do something at the top of their field. Stop being such a snob. It's not a good look.

#16 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-06-30 01:36 PM | Reply

Imagine if social networking existed during Lincoln's time. The Civil War would have never happened and slavery would still exist. He consistently made racist quotes. But he knew that how one man feels is not what America is about and that all men should be treated equally in the eyes of the law. Imagine that happening today. The Left would never end their smear campaign on him...I mean, if you ignore the fact that Dems fought to protect slavery so they would have done it anyway. But even if they weren't for slavery, they would have admonished him to no end. Just like they are doing today. The Left does not like free speech. They want to control all speech they don't agree with and want to legislate the same way. They haven't changed from the Civil War days except now they use try to cater to morality to get their way. The Right may legislate off of money and greed (which is no better) but at least they are OK with people being able to exercise their first Amendment rights. And their second Amendments rights, while we are at it. Still waiting for them to encroach on the 3rd Amendment and proclaim all looters and rioters soldiers of a racism war and force people to quarter them for the sake of morality.

#17 | Posted by humtake at 2020-06-30 02:17 PM | Reply

I mean, can you imagine just listening to someone else play the guitar and sing?
What kind of loser would sit there and listen to Hendrix or Dylan!

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-30 02:31 PM | Reply

"Imagine if social networking existed during Lincoln's time."

It kinda did. That's how you got your ticket to the Underground Railroad.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-30 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The Offline Social Network.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 02:46 PM | Reply

The Underground Railroad would last about 15 seconds after the guy posted his on-the-way-to-freedom selfie and forgot to turn off location info.

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 02:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There's zero difference between watching people play a pro sport and watching people play video games at the professional level. You're watching people with years of experience and a high degree of skill do something at the top of their field. Stop being such a snob. It's not a good look.

#16 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE

You'll have to excuse me if I find it absurd to compare those two things as equals...

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2020-06-30 03:07 PM | Reply

It just means your old.

Speaking of pro sports, the NFL is making money moves. Players are finding out after a year of no ticket sales, and facing crowd sizes a 1/4 of their previous size, contracts for guys like Cam Newton are pulling a lot less money.

#23 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-06-30 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Twitch is has been great during the quarantine era. I didn't have a membership there pre-2020, but since the crisis hit, I have watched comedians, live music performances, NFL/MLB stars play video games and give impromptu interviews with fans, and cooking shows.

As for eSports, the genre is sort of broken into at least two genres: entertainment, people who are amusing to watch play video games but are only above-average in skill, and actual pros who compete and find success in tournaments.

It's like YouTube Live.

#24 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-30 04:30 PM | Reply

I used to manage a gaming center and we hosted qualifiers for the world cyber games back in 2002.

While I agree the term athlete is probably not the best descriptor, simply saying gamer lacks a lot in what these kids are. Mind this was back in 2002 when you weren't talking millions but thousands were already at stake. They practiced with the dedication of any pro-athlete, the focus was there and in counter strike (the only team game we hosted) the team work would have been a credit to any pro sports team. There were fans and groupies just like pro sports, specialized equipment with team logos.

Whatever you want to call it there is the same kind of thrill watching top level players square off. We set up a TV outside the gaming area that would stream a live feed of the action and the viewing area would be packed to capacity.

We actually hosted an Unreal Tournament that was unaffiliated with WCG and Mark Rein (VP Epic Games) showed up. Winner got a motherboard, pentium chip, and top end GeForce video card, second and third got the video card and every player got a copy of UT gold. There were drawings for door prizes throughout the day ranging from a case of Bawls to video cards. We were over capacity and had to scramble to set up a second viewing area at the last minute.

#25 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-06-30 04:40 PM | Reply

#24

Don't forget the softcore porn aspect some of the gamer girls have, cameras aimed right at cleavage. I guess that's the entertainment category you mentioned :)

#26 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-06-30 04:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

They practiced with the dedication of any pro-athlete, the focus was there and in counter strike (the only team game we hosted)

In the CS world, long ago, I won a Fata1ty gaming mouse from his website! He was "early" on the power of endorsed/branded merchandise and competitive gaming.

UT was a great game as well, there were some really fun custom match settings, such as messing with the gravity settings.

#27 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-06-30 05:15 PM | Reply

"Twitch is has been great during the quarantine era"

It's been great for the fans; I think viewership is like double. But the streamers are caught up in the whole "everyone is holding on to their money because things are so uncertain" thing like most all of us.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-06-30 06:22 PM | Reply

#27

I was never great at CS generally first person shooters are not my thing. UT was the one exception and I thought I was good till I played some of the tournament guys. Yeah I might have been better than average but in no way was I good. I was always a RTS guy and I hate that the genre has died off.

I met Mark Rein back in 98 I was his go to guy for testing computers because I could take off the shelf ones and customize them to the specs he needed same day. He was an incredibly loyal customer after the first time I bailed him out when he needed 5 systems set up just so and his normal place couldn't do it. He came in with his list and 3 hours later rolled out 5 computers with upgraded ram and video cards. He was a very lucrative customer for a commission sales person to have, he would do that a few times a year. Anyway as thanks for that first time he gave me a copy of Unreal so I was playing that from jump. He also gave me UT about a month before the release and over the years various video cards and ram chips that they were done testing on. From '99-'02 I had pretty fly build your own computers partially from that partially because Intel would hook up sales people. My last computer I built before getting out of computers was a P4 3.06GhZ with hyper-threading a GeForce TI4400 video card and 512MB ram. In 2002 it was just blazing! It's still running.

Of course now thanks to Fortnite he's one of the richest guys in town and owns a hunk of the Carolina Hurricanes. Since I haven't been in computers for years we've lost touch. He lives in a gated community and when I was in there for another customer I dropped a business card in his mailbox. Maybe if he needs his fireplace repaired he'll hit me up and I can score some Canes tickets if hockey ever comes back. BTW he's a super nice guy, if you didn't gather that, despite at the time driving a Porsche. Until I met him I assumed only douches drove Porsche.

#29 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-06-30 06:36 PM | Reply

" Don't forget the softcore porn aspect some of the gamer girls have, cameras aimed right at cleavage. I guess that's the entertainment category you mentioned :)"

My friend's girlfriend supplemented her income that way while she was in law school. She was pretty good at the games she played but I'm guessing a lot of her views had little to do with that.

#30 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2020-06-30 06:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My friend's girlfriend supplemented her income that way while she was in law school.

My friend's wife is currently making good money playing videos games and streaming on twitch.

She's also on a sponsored team for League of Legends and Overwatch.

Start your kids playing now, the future is eSports.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-06-30 06:59 PM | Reply

Don't forget the softcore porn aspect some of the gamer girls have, cameras aimed right at cleavage. I guess that's the entertainment category you mentioned :)

#26 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR AT 2020-06-30 04:43 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

There's a multi-million dollar lawsuit against Twitch right now because of this. It's triggered some guys sex addiction.

#32 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-01 10:14 AM | Reply

I was never great at CS generally first person shooters are not my thing.

#29 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR AT 2020-06-30 06:36 PM | FLAG:

I played cal-i level back in 1.3 but never did in person tournaments.

#33 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-01 10:16 AM | Reply

#32

Yeah I read about that, freaking snowflake.

Actually it's a dude who has a history of suing video game companies. I imagine the hope is to settle out of court for a fraction.

#34 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2020-07-02 10:32 PM | Reply

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