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Saturday, July 04, 2020

The U.S. is sending two aircraft carriers into one of Asia's hottest spots to deliver a pointed message to China that it doesn't appreciate Beijing's military ramp-up in the region.

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It would be much better for Biden to do this.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-04 09:58 AM | Reply

Where's the aliens when need them?

Wouldn't now be a good time to do a flyby and buzz over everyone's heads.

#2 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-07-04 12:54 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Where's the aliens when need them? ...

Perhaps they are waiting until we destroy ourselves. That way it would be easier for them to take over the planet.

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-04 01:06 PM | Reply

btw, the phrasing surrounding this event is different than the phrasing I had read during prior "right of navigation" missions.

The prior ones tended to be spoken of as the United States defending its right and ability to navigate in international waters whenever and wherever it wants to.

This particular mission seems to be spoken of as sending a message to China, a message that China cannot miss.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-04 01:10 PM | Reply

Trump loses election in November. Starts a war with China.

Seems like the cherry on top of the shht pudding known as the Trump presidency.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-04 01:14 PM | Reply

Lamp,

"Perhaps they are waiting until we destroy ourselves."

The 6 part history channel series I mentioned earlier had one strange story that is part of the interviewed and documented events.

There was a state in the US with multiple missile silos with real nuclear warheads.

In the series a story was told about a light of unknown origin beamed straight down at a silo (not radiant light). Just a beam. At one point one missile was activated and then deactivated. I found another story where Russian military are claiming the same thing several years ago.

#6 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-07-04 01:35 PM | Reply

@#6 ... The 6 part history channel series I mentioned earlier ...

If this is the series of which you speak, I watched it and still have all the episodes on the DVR. I believe it was the first of similar series in which the Navy personnel spoke on camera about their experiences.

www.history.com

I see a season 2 is about to start...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-04 02:07 PM | Reply

Sending carriers into a potential war zone is a bold move but we don't actually have a bold President. He did ask Xi to help him in the election so this is just him using our military to make him look tough when EVERYONE knows he is not. If this impresses you then you are stupid.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-04 09:54 PM | Reply

#6

This is necessary. Communist China just eliminated the one country two systems for Hong Kong. They're stealing everything they can in the SCS, in addition to destroying coral reefs building artificial islands. The free nation of Taiwan(ROC) is their next target of conquest.

They're behaving like Japan circa WW2.

After being deployed on the USS Miday for a year and a half with VMFP-3, I AM impressed. 2 carrier battle groups are impressive and meant to send a message.

#9 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-04 10:17 PM | Reply

#9

3 6 month WESTPAC's, not all at once.

#10 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-04 10:19 PM | Reply

Got to sit off the coast of Iran on Gonzo station for 93 days during the hostage crisis.

#11 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-04 10:50 PM | Reply

This is how Trump celebrates the Fourth of July, by playing Battleships.

I bet he was disappointed when he found out they don't have that huge round table with the miniature ships on it and secretaries pushing them around with long stick like in the World War Two movies.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-04 10:54 PM | Reply

#12

I knew you'd hate it snoofy, being that it's aimed at communist China. A 50 center like you hates it for sure. Spare me your Wu Mao denials.

#13 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-04 10:57 PM | Reply

Got to sit off the coast of Iran on Gonzo station for 93 days during the hostage crisis.

#11 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

Dang, bet that was a "fun," high-alert status time on the ship.
Practice battle stations every other day?

#14 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-05 01:05 AM | Reply

#14

Not a lot of fun. 12 on, 12 off seven days a week. It was serious business. Carrier operations are always serious business.

#15 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 01:20 AM | Reply

I knew you'd hate it snoofy, being that it's aimed at communist China. A 50 center like you hates it for sure. Spare me your Wu Mao denials.

#13 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY AT 2020-07-04 10:57 PM | FLAG:

He's trolling you. He's a giant fan of US imperialism to establish hegemony.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-05 08:50 AM | Reply

Lamp,

I was pointed out in the series Harry Reid and John McCain both got involved in asking for this to be investigated.

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-07-05 11:32 AM | Reply

You mean dementia Joe? He guy that cannot put two sentences together? That would be a train wreck.

#18 | Posted by gtjr at 2020-07-05 12:26 PM | Reply

"He guy that cannot put two sentences together?"

Well, that's more than you, obviously.

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-07-05 12:30 PM | Reply

"I knew you'd hate it snoofy"

Hate is not the right word.

What Trump is doing is a show of force for Deplorables and nobody else.

It's pointless saber rattling.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 01:53 PM | Reply

Deployment just in time for the coming election. Whooshboom!

#21 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-07-05 02:00 PM | Reply

Tank the economy. Raid the treasury. Allow a virus to run rampant. Embolden racists. Start a war with China.

Making America Great!

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-05 02:18 PM | Reply

It was pointed out....etc...I meant to say.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-07-05 07:10 PM | Reply

Neat! Maybe we'll get to see if the DF-21D really works as expected :)

#24 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-07-05 07:55 PM | Reply

#20

Nice try, Wu Mao. That wasn't meant for domestic consumption at all. It's a signal to your beloved communist Chinese dictatorship and all the countries in the region they're trying to steal territory from. you communist China supporting despicables know that.

#25 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 08:51 PM | Reply

Hmm...would Trump be so Crass/Uncaring/
Desperate as to start WWIII just for a chance at reelection? Or maybeeeeeee... Nah!
Well... Yes he would. He is THAT Craven...

What if he starts WWIII or a major Military
Incident, not necessarily to 'win the war',
but simply as a diversion to instill
Martial Law here in the states and to
delay the election?

#26 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-07-05 09:20 PM | Reply

"all the countries in the region they're trying to steal territory from"

LOL!!!
What are they planning, build a Chinese Mt. Rushmore on stolen land?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 09:23 PM | Reply

#26

I guess just let communist China run rampant is the lefts plan.

#28 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 09:28 PM | Reply

#27

They wouldn't waste their time with that. They'll build military facilities, as they're already doing. After they're done, perhaps some statues to your hero Xi.

#29 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 09:31 PM | Reply

EARTHMUSE

"What if he starts WWIII or a major Military Incident, not necessarily to 'win the war', but simply as a diversion to instill Martial Law here in the states and to delay the election?"

Trump is crass enough to try anything but I doubt if starting a military operation on the other side of the world would be cause for Martial Law here in the United States. Plus it wouldn't matter anyway. Trump's term in office expires on January 20, 2021 regardless and there is no clause in the Constitution for a hold over or an extension.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-05 09:39 PM | Reply

Twin, seriously, you should stop relying on the constitution to protect us from -------. He, and the republican party, have ignored the constitution for 3.5 years. That will not stop him from making some ---- up and continuing in office come Jan, 2021.

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-07-05 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The leftist morons should educate themselves what this is all about. Should be nothing about left or right, but right.

#32 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 09:50 PM | Reply

#32

But what is right.

#33 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 09:53 PM | Reply

Nothing this president has done in 3.5 years is for the benefit of the US, so one can readily conclude that this is another action for his own personal benefit.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-07-05 09:53 PM | Reply

#34

Another woefully uneducated person on the subject.

#35 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 09:56 PM | Reply

This is the diplomatic equivalent of those two gun toting nutjobs in their gated community, waving their guns at protesters who aren't even targeting them, just walking down the street.

You can see why Willowby is such a fan. It really appeals to his impotence.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:06 PM | Reply

"They'll build military facilities, as they're already doing."

Yeah, so?

What's Trump gonna do about it, other than wave a carrier group in their face?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:08 PM | Reply

#36

Not even close, snoofy. As you're a 50 center, I knew you'd try to deflect from the main point. That's what you despicable Wu Mao do.

#38 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 10:09 PM | Reply

#37

Flat out supporting communist China's theft. thanks for telling us your allegiance. It's been obvious forever. Still have your Mao suit?

#39 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 10:13 PM | Reply

Do you have a point to make, Willowby, or are you saving yourself for your wedding night still?

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:13 PM | Reply

"Flat out supporting communist China's theft."

You mean Trump?
I wouldn't call him supporting it.
I would call him letting them get away with it.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:14 PM | Reply

#40

"Do you have a point to make, Willowby, or are you saving yourself for your wedding night still?"

I made it, snoofy. The fact you can't comprehend it isn't my fault. As for your other bit of idiocy, I've been a widower for almost 4 years to this day, my wedding night was decades ago. Any other "witticism's" you have?

#42 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 10:21 PM | Reply

Did we ever figure out why Willowby is convinced everyone who isn't a Deplorable must be a Communist China sympathizer?

I mean, does he even know it was Nixon who went to China and got the ball rolling on outsourcing American blue collar jobs to China?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:21 PM | Reply

TRUTHHURTS @ #31

"Twin, seriously, you should stop relying on the constitution to protect us from -------. He, and the republican party, have ignored the constitution for 3.5 years. That will not stop him from making some ---- up and continuing in office come Jan, 2021."

President elect Biden might have something to say about that ~~ as well as the Capitol Police and the new Congress sworn in on January 3rd.

So, no, I am not going to stop relying on the Constitution. It's served us well a lot longer than Trump's measly 3.5 years in office and will do so again when sanity returns to the White House. To do otherwise would be to admit that Donald Trump has succeeded in destroying America.

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-05 10:21 PM | Reply

"They're stealing everything they can in the SCS"

What have they stolen, Willowby?

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:24 PM | Reply

#41

Typical 50 cent response. Any article critical of communist China gets the same treatment. Why are you so desperate to defend communist China, snoofy?

#46 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 10:24 PM | Reply

"So, no, I am not going to stop relying on the Constitution."

Huh?
The Electoral College failed.
Impeachment failed.
What other remedies does the Constitution offer?

"It's served us well a lot longer than Trump's measly 3.5 years in office and will do so again when sanity returns to the White House."

So, you're cool with insanity, as long as it ends in 4.5 years minimum.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:26 PM | Reply

#42 Oh, I see why you're so sad and angry.
My condolences Willowby.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:28 PM | Reply

Did Communist China kill your wife?
Tainted metformin perhaps?

There must be a reason you always lash out at China, and so predictably you'd make Pavlov proud.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 10:29 PM | Reply

#49

Relatives, snoofy.

Wu Mao(50 centism) is why you ALWAYS defend the communist Chinese dictatorship.

#50 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 10:40 PM | Reply

#49

Bad analogy, snoofy.

If Pavlov's dog was around, he'd be running like hell from your beloved communist Chinese.

#51 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-05 11:21 PM | Reply

"Relatives, snoofy."

Weird.
Are you... not white?

Maybe you're like my old barber in Seattle. He was all about invading Iraq. I asked him if he really thought it would help American.

He said no, of course not! He just wanted Saddam dead since Saddam killed his own family.

Perfectly understandable.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-05 11:50 PM | Reply

#52

What does my race have to do with anything?

Like they just gobbled up Hong Kong, your beloved communist Chinese dictatorship sees Taiwan as next.

Communist China is a bigger menace than the Soviet Union ever was.

#53 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-06 12:19 AM | Reply

#52

We're probably the same race, sboofy.

It's obvious you're 100% communist Chinese. My parents are Taiwanese. I was born here and support my country. I doubt either can be said of you.

#54 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-06 01:26 AM | Reply

Goodnight, snoofy. Still time for more 50 cent posts.

#55 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-06 01:40 AM | Reply

If you have grandchildren... I suggest you encourage them to lean Cantonese.

#56 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-06 04:31 AM | Reply

(sigh) some of the previous exchanges remind
me of why I don't traffic this site so much anymore.
What start out as possible meaningful exchanges with
people on the opposite side of the political fence,
rapidly devolve into 4th grader name calling and labeling
fits, with little, if any substantive conversation actually
taking place.

So... I leave you all to it... Fight the 'Good Fight' and
all that old Hoo Haa!

#57 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-07-06 06:02 AM | Reply

Historically, China learned long ago to be a slow mover. Build up those muscles, get plenty of rest, and when you move it's with sharp elbows. Xi senses a power vacuum and the powerful like nothing more than a vacuum in which to exercise theirs. It has something to do with thinking strategically.

#58 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-07-06 07:00 AM | Reply

Yay! Another reason for Dems to support China while demonizing America! Let's all go kneel at a China sports event! Seriously, please, go kneel there. All Dems will mysteriously disappear but, yeah, at least America will be demonized.

#59 | Posted by humtake at 2020-07-06 07:59 AM | Reply

love how the Political Right has the biggest pair of blinders on
in the universe... It's always the Left is full of commies and
supports China, while Trump has been sucking Putin's balls, and
Kim's wang in S. Korea. Trump (and the GOP by their absolute silence)
has done nothing but heap praise on would-be dictators and fascists
the world over. He envies their absolute power and control, and
wishes he could operate with similar impunity here in America.
GOP idiots are no angels either. Still worshiping the Old South,
still having wet dreams of a Secessionist, All White Fantasy Land.
Waving that 'Stars and Bar's, even though their own party (the GOP)
gives billion dollar tax breaks to the richest 1-2% in this country,
and refuses to spend more on bailouts for the middle class and lower
income folk in this nation. I see truck loads of idiots here in
WV waving their 'Stars and Bars', praising Trump and the GOP for the
disaster of a Covid response that they've had, for their disaster of
an economic response they have had (about to turn into a full blown
Depression here any moment). You cannot write the --- that I have
seen. And all the time not realizing that the ONLY reason they do it
is to further their Racist American Dreams of a White Only Country.

Well, it's 155+ years too damned late for that. The Civil War is over.
The South lost. Hey GOP, the next time that you think that your Party is
so great...ask yourself this one simple question...

"After 40+ YEARS of Trickle Down Economics (by far and away the dominant
Economic Theory put forth by the Right in the last 50 years), how has
your life improved?" If it hasn't improved, if it has gotten worse,
then you are VOTING FOR THE WRONG SIDE!

#60 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-07-06 09:59 AM | Reply

oops....N. Korea...(typo)

#61 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-07-06 10:00 AM | Reply

"Another reason for Dems to support China while demonizing America! "

You people are insane. Wasn't it just the other day that Humpy was yucking it up and having "the most beautiful chocolate cake you've ever seen" and stroking his Tomahawk missiles with China's President Xi until they exploded all over Syria???

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-06 11:21 AM | Reply

Earth,

How about asking the question to people who spend years living on food stamps and government housing.

Have their lives improved?

What can Democrats offer that would get them out of that cycle?

More free stuff doesn't provide self-respect and self-worth regardless how you try to sell it.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2020-07-07 07:10 PM | Reply

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