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It is good to see the lower death toll. Probably because the medical community in the states being hit currently have learned from the experiences of the medical community in the early hot spots (e.g., New York City).

For example...

Months of Trial and Error in the ICU Offer Clues on How to Save Covid Patients
www.bloomberg.com

...
- - Up to 1,000 coronavirus research papers are released daily.
- - WHO says it's studying elements crucial to saving lives.
...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-06 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our country would be better off against COVID if it weren't run by a moron.

#3 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-07-06 10:45 PM | Reply

I say it again - sorry Liberals but COVID just isn't going to kill the numbers of people you were hoping for in red states because red states aren't run by morons.
#2 | POSTED BY STC_917

I guess you and your fellow Trumpubliklansmen can celebrate the fact that 130,000 Americans died, not in red states.

Because, apparently, that's all that seems to matter to you. That the right Americans died. The ones in blue states.

Because, fkkk America, right?

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-06 10:53 PM | Reply

because red states aren't run by morons.

#2 | POSTED BY STC_917

Yes, they are.

#5 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-07-06 10:58 PM | Reply

"To equate this to NYC where they had up to 1000 people dying a day"

NYC never had up to 1000 people dying a day:

data.cityofnewyork.us

The highest daily death rate for NY state was around 800, which it reached more than once in April:

www.cityandstateny.com

"New York's daily death toll from coronavirus reached as high as 800 deaths during the pandemic."

www.lohud.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-06 11:05 PM | Reply

You got your ass handed to you on another thread posting all this nonsense, so now you're over here?
drudge.com
WOB.

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-06 11:06 PM | Reply

#9 was for STC, of course.

#10 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-06 11:07 PM | Reply

Incel Fatberg is the moron who echoed the [...] prediction of 60,000 dead.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-07-06 11:13 PM | Reply

"So, we can now compare Houston's single COVID deaths/day vs. NYC's 800 rather than 1000."

The 800 number was for NY state, not NYC.

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-06 11:14 PM | Reply

I don't wish for that at all.
You have to keep making that strawman argument because you can't face the truth.
It isn't in you.
All that's in you is hate and the need for validation.
Death benefits you in your mind. Death of "blue" - the "other."
You have to have a scapegoat.
You're a sick person.
Seriously.

#16 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-06 11:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

The highest daily death rate in NYC was 590 in early April:

"The city reported its first confirmed Covid-19 death on March 11, and the number peaked on April 7 when 590 coronavirus patients died in New York City, according to the city's data. Confirmed deaths have been steadily declining since then, falling below 100 on May 9 for the first time since March 24."

www.cnbc.com

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-06 11:19 PM | Reply

Incel Fatberg is the moron...

I wonder if they play "Guess the Sockpuppet" on the Boaz Report?

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-07-06 11:20 PM | Reply

"Incel Fatberg is the moron who echoed the [...] prediction of 60,000 dead."

He's also on record claiming Trump will get 20% of the black vote.

No, really...he actually believes that manure!

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-07-06 11:47 PM | Reply

I say it again - sorry Liberals but COVID just isn't going to kill the numbers of people you were hoping for in red states because red states aren't run by morons.

#2 | POSTED BY STC_917

Run by morons? No, just the idiots who reopened and caused case loads to explode.

Oh, and ---- you you sack of ----.

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 12:03 AM | Reply

Every death is a tragedy and completely unnecessary if not for the evil CCP in China knowingly exporting the virus and purposefully hindering other countries' ability to properly prepare for it.

Doesn't absolve Trump for his inaction.

No matter how much you want it to be so.

And don't bother trying to defend him with an argument based on the travel ban. Entirely useless except to braindead morons like STC_...oops, sorry.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 12:05 AM | Reply

That said, governors in red states that are able to practice common sense have been able to manage the virus better than every country I listed above. Excluding MA, and their response has been on par with Germany.

Common sense is code for --------.

And by manage the virus, are you referring to managing it with 100% ICU capacity reached in a matter of two weeks? Yeah. Those non-morons are really managing the ---- out of that virus.

In fact, I hear South Korea has sent representatives to Houston to learn how to properly handle the virus.

Idiot.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 12:06 AM | Reply

rcade,

Are you going to let this sock puppet spread feces all over your site again?

I realize they're a bad case of hemorrhoids, but you gotta take the pain and get rid of them.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 12:08 AM | Reply

"Every death is a tragedy and completely unnecessary if not for the evil CCP in China knowingly exporting the virus and purposefully hindering other countries' ability to properly prepare for it."

And Trump just took it on the chin.
And for this, you love Trump.
I really don't get it.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:14 AM | Reply

You can click on the various headings to change the rankings according to alphabetical order by state, total number of nursing home deaths and what share of the total deaths occurred in nursing homes:

State Reports of Long-Term Care Facility Cases and Deaths Related to COVID-19 (as of June 25, 2020)

www.kff.org

NJ and NY have the highest number of nursing home deaths, but not the highest percentage of nursing home deaths as they relate to the total deaths from covid 19 in a given state. So, for example, NY has 6,427 nursing home deaths, which is 21% of the total deaths in the state from the virus. FL, on the other hand, has 1,636 nursing home deaths, which is 50% of the states total covid-19 deaths.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 12:21 AM | Reply

governors in red states that are able to practice common sense have been able to manage the virus

Except now Texas and Arizona are overflowing with COVID-19.

Face it. There's only one person whose job it is to protect America.

Trump failed.

Blame China. Blame Democrats. Blame the moon if it makes you feel better.

130,000+ Americans are dead and you're worried about politics.

This is why America is failing.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-07 01:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Face it. There's only one person whose job it is to protect America."

The don't want Trump on that Wall.

They can't handle the truth.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 01:33 AM | Reply

Sickening...no literally

#29 | Posted by thepopeisafool at 2020-07-07 02:29 AM | Reply

"The city reported its first confirmed Covid-19 death on March 11, and the number peaked on April 7 when 590 coronavirus patients died in New York City, according to the city's data."

I think the data info was fluid early on. Here is what the current data shows for that date:

2020 Apr 07 12:00:00 AM
Cases: 6,065
Hospitalized: 1,602
Deaths: 598

data.cityofnewyork.us

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 08:09 AM | Reply

"New York City reports a record 800-plus coronavirus deaths in one day
By Jason Hanna and Christina Maxouris, CNN

Updated 10:42 PM ET, Tue April 7, 2020"

Like I said, I think the data early on was fluid--if the current stats being put out by the city and state are accurate. 600 deaths in one day isn't 1000 or 800, but it's still frighteningly high.

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 08:14 AM | Reply

Unlike 45 and his cult of idiot followers, South Korea didn't stick their heads in the sand and did much better with containment and prevention. And they don't have an idiot leader saying very stupid reckless things every day further influencing the poor behavior of his country's citizens.

#32 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-07-07 08:45 AM | Reply

Houston is sprawled out and everyone drives to get anywhere and sidewalks don't exist in areas, while New York is congested and everyone takes public transport and sidewalks are everywhere.

#33 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-07-07 10:50 AM | Reply

And you are licking your chops waiting for death to follow....but it won't. NYC was the result of putting the most vulnerable into harm's way. That mistake isn't being repeated. As I already posted, Houston had ONE Covid death yesterday and none the day before. Per CNN, NYC had 800 in a day. That is industrial scale incompetence by blue state governors.

#28 | POSTED BY STC_917

Oh look, more lying trash.

You provide no evidence using nursing homes that were isolating COVID patients caused any jump in deaths in NYC. Nursing home deaths rates as a percentage of all deaths are HIGHER in the Houston area than New York City. So you sound like an idiot.

Worse, you aren't even smart enough to know the differences between New York City in March versus Houston now.

You are comparing New York City when we didn't have enough masks or protective equipment, hadn't been in lock down for months, lacked widespread testing, and were still learning how to treat COVID-19 to Houston NOW.

New York City metro with FIVE times the population and TEN times the population density had 7 deaths yesterday. Harris County itself reported 13 deaths over July 3-5.

New York City has Coronavirus relatively under control. Houston does not and is seeing a spike.

So when you talk about the BRIGHT people in Houston handling this right, no one knows what the ---- you are talking about.

And then you ignore other Texas hot spots like Dallas with even worse death rates.

There is ZERO ------- REASON why Houston should be seeing spikes right now and ICUs full of COVID-19 patients other than being god damn stupid in re-opening and refusing basic protective measures.

#34 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-07 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

25% reopening. Then 50%. Businesses all adapted practices, didnt help.. Now closed. Giant protests big enough to fill a MLB stadium for a month straight.

Age is plummeting in covid infections and so is lethality. Thanks young adults.

#35 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-07 02:47 PM | Reply

we also have emerging evidence the strain here is more contagious than normal. Yay.

#36 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-07 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As I already posted, Houston had ONE Covid death yesterday and none the day before. Per CNN, NYC had 800 in a day. That is industrial scale incompetence by blue state governors.

#28 | POSTED BY STC_917 AT 2020-07-07 02:20 AM

The data lags reality.

Everyone knows weekend reporting lags even more.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-07 03:09 PM | Reply

The virus is learning our weaknesses and exploiting them.

Just like our own President.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-07 03:11 PM | Reply

because red states aren't run by morons.

#2 | POSTED BY STC_917

The cream of the crop?

Kevin Stitt, Oklahoma

On Saturday night, March 14, Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt tweeted out a photo of himself and his children at a crowded restaurant. "Eating with my kids and all my fellow Oklahomans at Collective OKC!" Stitt exulted, "It's packed tonight!"

The next day, Stitt declared a statewide emergency "caused by the impending threat of COVID-19 to the people of this State and the public's peace, health, and safety."

The very next day after the order was issued, Stitt's chief of communications clarified the sweep of the order:

"The governor will continue to take his family out to dinner and to the grocery store without living in fear and encourages Oklahomans to do the same."

Tate Reeves, Mississippi

"Mississippi's never going to be China. Mississippi's never going to be North Korea."

Kay Ivey, Alabama

"Y'all, we are not Louisiana. Right now is not the time to order people to shelter in place."

Ron DeSantis, Florida

For weeks, in the face of this thoroughly predictable crisis, Florida governor Ron DeSantis resisted issuing a statewide stay at home order, which he called "not advisable" because the virus supposedly wasn't affecting "every corner of the state." Never mind that this statement wasn't true, and that the Florida numbers were artificially depressed due to lack of testing in most of the state.

Brian Kemp, Georgia

April 1, 2020: Georgia governor Brian Kemp explains why he waited until April Fool's Day to issue a statewide stay-at-home order: "We didn't know that [the virus can be spread by people without symptoms] until the last 24 hours. This is a game changer for us!"

(Honorable mention for Texas "There are more important things than living" Greg Abbott and WV Jim Justice)

#39 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-07 03:35 PM | Reply

Dr. Fauci contradicts Trump's boasts about lower COVID death rate--and calls it a 'false narrative'

www.rawstory.com

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 05:18 PM | Reply

Inspector, wade carefully into these waters.
And get a disposable email that's anonymous.

#42 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-07 06:17 PM | Reply

"Despite having the worst demographics for COVID (bunch of old people), FL has 3,841 COVID deaths total, about 1/10th the amount in NY state which has similar population. Further, despite the 'case count' spiking, there has be NO INCREASE IN DEATH RATES for the state."

US's second peak seems to be less deadly than the first--but 80,000 more people are still projected to die from now to November

Those keeping an eye on the US's coronavirus case and death curves will notice a seemingly hopeful trend: Although new daily cases are skyrocketing, daily deaths have remained relatively flat recently.

Indeed, new projections from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) suggest that this new peak is not expected to be as deadly as the one in April.

That's primarily because increased testing means more mild cases are being confirmed, and young people represent a larger share of coronavirus cases than they did at the start of the outbreak. (COVID-19 is far less fatal in younger people.) In Florida, the median age of coronavirus cases has dropped to 35, compared 65 in March. Cases among people under 40 are also rising in Arizona, California, Minnesota, Ohio, South Carolina, and Texas.


www.msn.com

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 10:35 PM | Reply

"I will take the GOP any day of the week."

130,000 COVID-19 deaths under our GOP President.

And all he had to do to make it zero was control the border, which is solely under his purview.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 10:36 PM | Reply

"Seriously, STOP READING MSN."

The original article is from:

Business Insider

The US's second peak seems to be less deadly than the first " but 80,000 more people are still projected to die from now to

www.businessinsider.com

#48 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 10:56 PM | Reply

The second peak has to do with the number of new CV cases, not with the number of deaths:

"Over the last week, the US has recorded its highest numbers of coronavirus cases to date: around 49,000 daily cases, on average. Thursday marked the peak of the outbreak so far, with more than 55,000 cases. New cases are rising in the majority of states."

You can clearly see the "second peak" on this graph:

www.businessinsider.com

#50 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-07 11:08 PM | Reply

STC - 2nd and 3rd graphics on the link you provided. I wouldn't call it a 2nd peak but a huge increase still in the first wave.

#51 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-07 11:09 PM | Reply

This article explains things clearly. It is out of date a bit when it comes to the hospitalization rates in TX, FL, and AZ, but otherwise it's right on the money. Things changed significantly in those states just in the past 2 days.

www.vox.com

And as feared, (t)he numbers in Florida are telling. At first, in late May and into early June, new infections accelerated among the under-45 cohort. But after a lag of a week or so, new cases also started to pick up among the over-45 (i.e., more at-risk) population.

This is what I've been fearing.

#52 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-07 11:31 PM | Reply

It is way worse than just the usual fake news.

#47 | Posted by stc_917

Still better than the ---- you spread.

#53 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 11:59 PM | Reply

The article matches what I've said all along.
The article is factual.

Your last sentence illustrates your irrationality perfectly with the conflict between "going to" and you thinking you've proved your point because it "has not" come. Tense matters and yours is in logical conflict.

Then you say red states aren't run by morons, as if blue states are, and that all the hell that the first (blue) states to get slammed by this virus didn't learn and pass that on to the red states!
The red states the BLEW it because they had to open up ignoring the CDC guidelines and the lessons learned by the blue states. They BLEW it because they are politicians listening to their best buddy, Trump, who is certifiably a moron.

Thank god the doctors, nurses, hospitals aren't red or blue and the blue states have shared all their lessons learned with those hospitals in red states. Thank god the hell the blue states went through and the new drug therapies, etc. are helping with the fatality rate for everyone else.

Be thankful, not a hateful partisan low-life.

#55 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 08:56 AM | Reply

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the top US infectious-disease expert, says taking "comfort" in the recent lower coronavirus death rate is a "false narrative" of the COVID-19 pandemic.

And

"But I don't want to get in a situation where we just come to accept a lower number of deaths as if this is a new normal," he continued. "We've still got to do everything we can to get this virus snuffed out."

Stop trying to normalize COVID-19 deaths, STC. That is disgusting, sick, and twisted.

www.businessinsider.com

#56 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 09:03 AM | Reply

The two quotes above are from different people. Reading it as I posted it makes it appear as if Dr. Fauci said both. That was not my intent. The second quote is from Sen. Doug Jones (AL).

#57 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 09:14 AM | Reply

STC is GONE. Posts removed, etc. It appears that that sock puppet online incarnation has been terminated.

#58 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 09:18 AM | Reply

Oh, and if that idiot is still reading:
The chart below tracks the daily reported deaths and provides a 7-day average trend line based on cases reported by the Florida Department of Health (DOH) through July 7th.

4th graph:
tallahasseereports.com

And I wish I had been wrong.

#59 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 09:24 AM | Reply

The red states the BLEW it because

#55 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2020-07-08 08:56 AM | FLAG:

Why do people always leave out California? It's only the blue state that sets the tone for all other blue states. 10,000 new cases there. They reopened with the "red states" even though all the red states are populated with blue cities.

#60 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-08 09:36 AM | Reply

The population of la alone exceeds the number of people in states like the Dakotas and other barren crackerland states combined
It's overall state population is greater that those in all the New England states and other holes like Ohio
It's 850 miles from top to bottom, covering the distance from the Canadian border to Raleigh North Carolina. That's 10 states

You can't compare California to let's say, fduck your sister Alabama. You just come off sounding whiny

#61 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-07-08 09:57 AM | Reply

I think it's funny that folks think CA is so, so "blue."
There are a LOT of militant "redders" there. San Diego, Orange County, and radicals and militias in Northern CA. Even with all that and the culture focused on living:

CA looks like this:
www.google.com

Texas:
www.google.com

Florida:
www.google.com

Arizona:
www.google.com

Total cases, and the current trends should be adjusted for population. You can scale it mentally using the rough population numbers:
California's population is 40 million.
Florida's 20 million
Texas' 30 million
Arizona's only 7 million. Arizona, for instance, is at half the cases of CA, with nearly 6 times LESS the population.

#62 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 10:48 AM | Reply

There are a LOT of militant "redders" there. San Diego, Orange County, and radicals and militias in Northern CA.

#62 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2020-07-08 10:48 AM | FLAG:

We'll have to differ on what "a LOT" is. "Out of the 53 seats California is apportioned in the U.S. House of Representatives, 7 are held by Republicans". Texas is 24 Repub, 12 dems in the Fed House, while lopsided it's far more balanced than California.

#63 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-08 11:34 AM | Reply

#39 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

This post is PURE BS.

How does Texas get only an honorable mention? We have done our fair share of stupidity to at least get an consolation prize for causing a huge spike in cases! I mean come on!

#64 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-08 11:48 AM | Reply

#28 | POSTED BY STC_917
#34 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Look at that.

When confronted with actual facts, STC_917 runs away like Trumpers usually do.

#65 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-08 11:49 AM | Reply

STC is GONE. Posts removed, etc. It appears that that sock puppet online incarnation has been terminated.

#58 | POSTED BY YAV

Finally. I don't understand why those -------- don't just stay in their sausage fest pity party.

#66 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-08 01:02 PM | Reply

we also have emerging evidence the strain here is more contagious than normal. Yay.

#36 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

I'm assuming you're referring to the D614G mutation?

The evidence is that it's becoming the most prevalent strain. I haven't seen any evidence that it's more contagious.

#67 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-08 01:07 PM | Reply

It made the Chron but it's paywalled. TLDR, the 6/14 study showed what the early 5/17 study hinted at but didn't confirm. There's another that came out 2 days before along the same lines, and another on Cell along the same lines.

"SARS coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) isolates encoding a D614G mutation in the viral spike (S) protein predominate over time in locales where it is found, implying that this change enhances viral transmission. We therefore compared the functional properties of the S proteins with aspartic acid (SD614) and glycine (SG614) at residue 614. We observed that retroviruses pseudotyped with SG614 infected ACE2-expressing cells markedly more efficiently than those with SD614. This greater infectivity was correlated with less S1 shedding and greater incorporation of the S protein into the pseudovirion. Similar results were obtained using the virus-like particles produced with SARS-CoV-2 M, N, E, and S proteins. However, SG614 did not bind ACE2 more efficiently than SD614, and the pseudoviruses containing these S proteins were neutralized with comparable efficiencies by convalescent plasma. These results show SG614 is more stable than SD614, consistent with epidemiological data suggesting that viruses with SG614 transmit more efficiently."

www.biorxiv.org

#68 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-08 01:52 PM | Reply

and for a fun political update, it's working out like this:

The governor is pawning off any type of shutdown talk back to the cities and accusing them of not enforcing executive orders.
The mayors of the cities are pawning off cracking down on their local rules and kicking it up to the governor to enforce a state wide shutdown.

It's a circular firing squad with the citizens standing in the middle.

#69 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-08 02:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The governor is pawning off any type of shutdown talk back to the cities and accusing them of not enforcing executive orders."

It's lack-of-leadership turtles all the way down.
The mayors will in turn blame the business owners.
The business owners will blame the customers.
And, being Texas, the customers will blame China, Blue states, Liberals, Immigrants, and the rest of the Usual Suspects.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 07:29 PM | Reply

Oh, and if that idiot is still reading:
The state (Texas) has also reported 98 deaths, another record, up from the prior record of 60 set Tuesday.

www.wfaa.com

And I wish I had been wrong.

#71 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 08:35 PM | Reply

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