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Monday, July 06, 2020

A statue of abolitionist Frederick Douglass was ripped from its base in Rochester on the anniversary of one of his most famous speeches, delivered in that city in 1852. Less than an hour after it was finished on Saturday afternoon, ... (c)alling racism a leftist lie,' white vandals (deface) California Black Lives Matter street slogan in Martinez, Calif.

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A woman in flip-flops and a patriotic shirt splattered a can of black paint over the bright yellow "L" in "Black" heaving her paint roller over the letters outside the Contra Costa County courthouse. Her companion, a man in a red "Four More Years" shirt from President Trump's campaign and red "Make America Great Again" hat, told onlookers, "No one wants Black Lives Matter here."

"What is wrong with you?" someone asked the unidentified vandals from off-camera, in a viral video of the incident also shared by police.

"We're sick of this narrative, that's what's wrong," the man responded. "The narrative of police brutality, the narrative of oppression, the narrative of racism. It's a lie."

The woman scrubbed away with her black paint roller, looking up to say, "Keep this s--- in f----- New York. This is not happening in my town."

From Cleveland to Montpelier, Vt., BLM street slogans have been defaced in recent weeks amid nationwide protests over racial injustice and police brutality.
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Police said the statue of Douglass was taken on Sunday from Maplewood Park, a site along the Underground Railroad where Douglass and Harriet Tubman helped shuttle slaves to freedom.

In Rochester on July 5, 1852, Douglass gave the speech "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July," in which he called the celebration of liberty a sham in a nation that enslaves and oppresses its Black citizens.

Carvin Eison, a leader of the project that brought the Douglass statue to the park, told the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle another statue will take its place because the damage is too significant.

"Is this some type of retaliation because of the national fever over confederate monuments right now? Very disappointing, it's beyond disappointing," Eison told WROC.

It might be disappointing but it isn't surprising. This is the America Trump is clinging onto with every fiber of his malevolent being. White is both might and always right.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-06 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This reminds me of when Et_Al and the GOP supported getting rid of Section V of the Voting Rights Act, since it has been in place for decades and racism must be over by now.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-06 01:10 PM | Reply

Shoot them with rubber bullets, launch flash bangs, and teargas them.
So they know what it feels like.
For equality.

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-06 01:16 PM | Reply

Yeah, racism is totally not a problem in this country. Sure...

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-06 03:09 PM | Reply

If you cheered the destruction and vandalization of other statues in America this year you normalized this Behavior.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-06 07:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 4

Really, cheering for the destruction of monuments to slavery normalized the destruction of monuments to freedom?

How does that work, Tor?

If I cheered for the destruction of laws preventing gay marriage, did I cheer for the destruction of laws preventing polygamy and marrying children?

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-06 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Well, this is a great way to prove that, "racism is a lie".

Now do you buh'lieve it?

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2020-07-06 08:16 PM | Reply

#6,

Why am I not surprised you didnt understand #5..

#8 | Posted by boaz at 2020-07-06 08:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Boaz, you can't explain it either?
Why am I not surprised.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-06 09:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Why am I not surprised you didnt understand #5..
#8 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Boaz.

Why do you support the Confederacy?

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-06 09:39 PM | Reply

Play dumb all you want Snoof you only make it more obvious you helped normalize this garbage.

#11 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-06 10:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tor.

You support having statues to honor slave owning confederates, who wanted to separate from America, in order to continue using human beings as slaves?

You're a garbage human being.

Fkkk off to your klan meeting.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-06 10:34 PM | Reply

POSTED BY TOR AT 2020-07-06 07:59 PM | REPLY | FLAGGED NEWSWORTHY BY 6THPERSONA, NEWSWORTHY BY BOAZ, NEWSWORTHY BY WILLOWBY, NEWSWORTHY BY GRACIEAMAZED,

Garbage post attracts garbage posters.

We already knew Gracie and Boaz were racists.

Seems Willowby is too? Not much of a surprise.

And no one cares about 6thSockPuppet.

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-06 10:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They've had decades to remove the confederate monuments and statues. They didn't do it. The normalization and the institutionalization of racism is coming to an end because PEOPLE have said ENOUGH and sent a message. Remove this filth or WE will.

That some "agrreived" pathetic white racist scum see fit to retaliate isn't unexpected. They will continue to marginalized and die out. The romanticization of the Lost Cause is over.

However anyone that compares the destruction of Frederick Douglass' statue to Jeffersone Davis, or Lee, or any other confederate is a POS. Pure and simple.

The Confederacy died a long time ago. It is time to bury it. Cover the coffin with the Confederate Battle Flag. Bury it along with the casket.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-06 10:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you cheered the destruction and vandalization of other statues in America this year you normalized this Behavior.

#5 | POSTED BY TOR

Only if the deepest you can think is about the object itself and not why it's there and who it represents...

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 12:10 AM | Reply

Why am I not surprised you didnt understand #5..

#8 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Why am I not surprised you think it says something..

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-07 12:10 AM | Reply

Play dumb all you want Snoof you only make it more obvious you helped normalize this garbage.
#11 | POSTED BY TOR

Really, I helped normalize tearing down a monument to freedom?
Explain how I did that, please, because I'm not seeing it.

Is it like this?
If I wear leather, I must be okay with dog-fighting too, since in both cases animals live and die for my enjoyment.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You thought encouraging lawlessness and violence to be acceptable and then were surprised when people engaged in this Behavior.

#18 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-07 12:29 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#2

Reminds me that you are a still a pos troll. I've never said such, not even close. Neither did the Court in Shelby.

And you still can't get it right, DA. It's section 4, the coverage formula, that was stricken. Section 5 is the remedy, preclearance.

#19 | Posted by et_al at 2020-07-07 12:32 AM | Reply

"You thought encouraging lawlessness and violence to be acceptable"

I did?
When did I encourage lawlessness and violence, Tor?
And, are we really going to call tearing down a statue "violence?"
And, are we really going to call tearing down a statue "lawlessness?"

Regardless, the Berlin Wall was likewise torn down in a prolonged act of lawlessness and violence, correct Tor?
And the statue of King George that used to be in Boston, torn down in an act of lawlessness and violence, correct Tor?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:33 AM | Reply

"I've never said such, not even close."

That's because you never say anything.
You hide behind the skirts of the law, afraid to voice your actual beliefs.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:35 AM | Reply

Where is giant orange turd Trumpy to clutch pearls now?

#22 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-07-07 12:36 AM | Reply

Et_Al, here is what you agreed with:

The Court reasoned that the coverage formula violates the constitutional principles of "equal sovereignty of the states" and federalism because its disparate treatment of the states is "based on 40 year-old facts having no logical relationship to the present day" en.wikipedia.org

And that's how you deny racism exists today.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:38 AM | Reply

And here is the obvious reacction to opening the doors to racism: "After the decision, several states that were fully or partially covered"including Texas, Mississippi, North Carolina, and South Carolina"implemented laws that were previously denied preclearance" en.wikipedia.org

Et_Al believes if the Supreme Court says States can be racist again, then it's okay to be racist.
That's what makes him a real snake in the grass.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:39 AM | Reply

Did you say a word in objection to the statues being destroyed?

#25 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-07 12:48 AM | Reply

"Did you say a word in objection to the statues being destroyed?"

Let's dig into this:
If you'll read this thread, Tor, you might see I haven't said a word objecting to the statue of Frederick Douglass being destroyed.
Just like you haven't.
So I guess you're okay with it?

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 12:52 AM | Reply

Yeah... I'm actually ok with it. They broke the law, so arrest and charge them if you can. But, this also brings the conservative racists into the open. You can't deny their existence when they are tearing down statues and defacing buildings. Just like you can't deny that people who are passionate about equality for black people exist when they are tearing down statues.

I much prefer this over violence. Statues can be replaced if we decide as a society that they really matter to us and reflect our values. But people cannot be brought back to life.

#27 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-07-07 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Some people are speaking up for statues who never spoke up for George Floyd or Elijah McClain.

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2020-07-07 10:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

All Statues Matter

#29 | Posted by Maverick at 2020-07-07 10:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

But people cannot be brought back to life.

#27 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2020-07-07 09:17 AM | Reply

I thought statues were for that.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-07 10:12 AM | Reply

I visited the University of Texas recently and found that all the statues on the south mall were removed, with the exception of Washington.

They got rid of Robert E. Lee but they also disposed of Gov. Hogg (who named his daughters Ima and Ura).

I understand that UT Austin is now the 39th best university in the entire world.

There's only one Confederate memorial (a tomb) that I know of that is a work of art. That would be in the Texas State Cemetery. It is ineffably sad.

#31 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-07 10:26 AM | Reply

...and so the racist push back by
Rtards begins...

#32 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-07-07 11:20 AM | Reply

All Statues Matter

#29 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

No, actually they don't. Why do you think they do?

Regardless, it does matter WHY we put them up.

And if we put them up to increase hate and division then it doesn't matter. Take them down.

As you will see. Some belong only in museums. Like the Nazi flag or confederate flag.

If you are afraid of forgetting history then read a damn book.

I hear even the President can read now!

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-07 11:30 AM | Reply

All Statues Matter

#29 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

No, actually they don't. Why do you think they do?

Regardless, it does matter WHY we put them up.

And if we put them up to increase hate and division then it doesn't matter. Take them down.

As you will see. Some belong only in museums. Like the Nazi flag or confederate flag.

If you are afraid of forgetting history then read a damn book.

I hear even the President can read now!

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-07 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why am I not surprised you didnt understand #5..

#8 | Posted by boaz

Why am I not surprised you dont see the difference between taking down statues of racist traitors and statues of beneficial reformers.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-07-07 12:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For those who are confused I have objecting to mobs destruction of statues in America and I still am.

At this point I don't really care even who the statues are for and the ACLU agrees with me.

#36 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-07 12:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You thought encouraging lawlessness and violence to be acceptable and then were surprised when people engaged in this Behavior.

#18 | POSTED BY TOR

Sorry. I'm confused.

Are you talking about the police or the protesters?

I didn't see a lot of police bleeding out on the sidewalks or getting beaten or losing eyes to rubber bullets or getting hit with tear gas while standing around peacefully.

So I think you'll have to clarify for me.

#37 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-07 01:00 PM | Reply

Some people are speaking up for statues who never spoke up for George Floyd or Elijah McClain.
#28 | POSTED BY RCADE

Yeah Tor.
What's up with that?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 01:24 PM | Reply

I much prefer this over violence. Statues can be replaced if we decide as a society that they really matter to us and reflect our values. But people cannot be brought back to life.
#27 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL

Yeah Tor.
What's up with that?

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 01:25 PM | Reply

At this point I don't really care even who the statues are for
#36 | POSTED BY TOR

You don't care who they are for?
Then you don't care who they are against either.

If putting up a monument to slavery doesn't bother you, but taking down a monument to slavery bothers you, it's pretty clear which side your bread is buttered on.

"But the statues were put up legally!"

Yeah, and slavery was legal too.

Just imagine what would Tor say if some upstart Jewish kid trashed a bunch of merchant wares outside the temple!

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I imagine snooty that you feel find with mobs doing as they please.

#41 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-07 02:35 PM | Reply

I imagine snooty that you feel find with mobs doing as they please.

#41 | POSTED BY TOR

You mean like the Boston Tea Party? You against that, too?

#42 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-07-07 04:29 PM | Reply

iimagine snooty that you feel find with mobs doing as they please.
#41 | POSTED BY TOR

As long as nobody gets hurt, I'm generally okay with people doing as they please.

Putting up racist statues hurts people.
It celebrates a culture of oppression.
Try acknowledging that fact, Tor.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 04:46 PM | Reply

Tor said: At this point I don't really care even who the statues are for and the ACLU agrees with me.

Citation required. The ACLU wants the Confederate monuments TORN DOWN.

This is 7:30 minutes long - "ACLU Deputy Legal Director Jeffrey Robinson expose(s) Confederate monuments for what they really are":
news.yahoo.com

Time for the Confederacy, these monuments and statues, the rebel flag to all be GONE.

#44 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-07 06:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"As long as nobody gets hurt, I'm generally okay with people doing as they please"

Snoofy think about that.

#45 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-07 09:36 PM | Reply

"As long as nobody gets hurt, I'm generally okay with people doing as they please"

Snoofy think about that.
#45 | POSTED BY TOR

Thinking in FREEDOM
Mulling it over in LIBERTY

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 09:42 PM | Reply

I don't buy toilet paper anymore. I tear down the Confederate RAGS from the trailer parks I've been visiting nationwide and use that to wipe my rear in the name of Trumpism a.k.a. Racism.

#47 | Posted by jvel777 at 2020-07-08 02:59 AM | Reply

iimagine snooty that you feel find with mobs doing as they please.
#41 | POSTED BY TOR

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WHITE SUPREMACIST AMERICA HAS BEEN DOING FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS!! IMAGINE THAT!!!! SMDH @ you complete and utter imbeciles.

#48 | Posted by jvel777 at 2020-07-08 03:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At this point I don't really care even who the statues are for and the ACLU agrees with me.

#36 | POSTED BY TOR AT 2020-07-07 12:31 PM

I'm starting to truly believe TOR is really Trump with all that lying and sociopathic buffoonery.

#49 | Posted by jvel777 at 2020-07-08 03:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Posted by Tor

Ignorant white person logic.

STFU, moron.

#50 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-07-08 08:06 AM | Reply

We've now come to the point that the Holocaust museum is in danger.

#51 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-07-08 10:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh look another dope who's proud to have helps normalize the destruction of statues.

#52 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 10:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

No citation for your statement about the ACLU, Tor?
No comment on #44?

#53 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 06:57 PM | Reply

"the group strongly condemns any illegal act of destruction or vandalism."

This quote was about a different monument in America and from a few years ago but that is the ACLU's stance.

#54 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 07:03 PM | Reply

"the group strongly condemns any illegal act of destruction or vandalism."

Then go ahead and say it was wrong for American colonists to tear down the statue of King George in Boston.
And then say the Boston Tea Party was wrong too.

I bet you can't do it!

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 07:37 PM | Reply

Times change and standards rise.

#56 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 07:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I knew you couldn't bring yourself to say it!

How about when the USMC pulled down the statue of Saddam Hussein, shortly after we occupied Baghdad. niemanreports.org
Was that naughty?

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 07:47 PM | Reply

You go ahead an identify with the dunks of boston while the rest of us identify with the founders.

#58 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 07:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

FYI despite trumps apparently convincing you otherwise America isn't a war zone.

#59 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 07:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

What part of the Founders do you identify with most?
Is is the white supremacy, the patriarchy, or the ethnic cleansing?

Plot twist: It's the part where they didn't make abortion illegal in our new country!

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 07:53 PM | Reply

Charming another non-historian who can't envision a founder without trying to make himself feel superior to them rather than admire what they accomplished.

#61 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 08:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tor, putting up racist statues is a legal act of vandalism.
Why can't you see them as a wrong that needs to be righted?

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 08:24 PM | Reply

This quote was about a different monument in America and from a few years ago but that is the ACLU's stance.

You remember this from sometime ago and can't provide any citation and you're putting that up against #44?

#63 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-08 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thomas Jefferson brought macaroni and cheese to America.

What foods from abroad have you introduced?

#64 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-09 01:15 PM | Reply

Thomas Jefferson raped an African girl.
What girls from abroad have you raped?

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 01:24 PM | Reply

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