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Wednesday, July 08, 2020

Our cultural institutions are facing a moment of trial. Powerful protests for racial and social justice are leading to overdue demands for police reform, along with wider calls for greater equality and inclusion across our society, not least in higher education, journalism, philanthropy, and the arts.

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T"he forces of illiberalism are gaining strength throughout the world and have a powerful ally in Donald Trump, who represents a real threat to democracy."

Your vote in action, Hrat.

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2020-07-07 07:15 PM | Reply

#1 I think it's funny they can say that but I just go tossed off a woke news site for typing "Defund the Thought Police". This is about cancel culture.

#2 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-07 07:46 PM | Reply

#2 Always the victim.

Just like a Deplorable to get exactly what you wanted on Nov 8, 2016 and still be miserable.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 Every example was about cancel culture. The left cancelled them and I read every story. You didn't because you can't.

P.S. If Hillary had won the wars would have been expanded. She wanted Syria and Libya at least. I'm happy.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-07 08:12 PM | Reply

I'm happy.
#4 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT

You're lying to yourself.

You may be content. But if you consider yourself happy in the current environment, I question whether you've sincerely ever felt the feeling.

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-07 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"#3 Every example was about cancel culture."

BUT HER EMAILS

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 09:06 PM | Reply

#6 Example:

Evenry intell agency said the rumor of Russian bounties was dubius. NYT changes it's story. CNN said there was an electronic transfer of funds. The NSA said it never happened. The president was never notified because the rumor came from a drug dealer and was uncorroborated, so it wasn't in the PDB. Did you hear that? No. Not one paper ran a retraction.

If you want to know the truth, listen to what they won't let you hear.

#7 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-07 09:40 PM | Reply

Why bother typing all that when you can just quote Trump himself?

The Russia Bounty story is just another made up by Fake News tale that is told only to damage me and the Republican Party. The secret source probably does not even exist, just like the story itself. If the discredited @nytimes has a source, reveal it. Just another HOAX!
4:09 AM Jul 1, 2020
twitter.com

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 09:51 PM | Reply

#8 youtu.be

#9 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-07 10:11 PM | Reply

I don't watch youtube on my phone, sorry.

Your defense of Trump and Putin is hardly surprising.

It's your whole reason for coming here.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-07 10:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 | Posted by snoofy

Pretty funny coming from a guy who supports terrorism. So how are pals in AntiFa, snoofy? Beat up any random old people and children lately? 16 kids have been shot in the riots so far.

#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-08 05:12 AM | Reply

Among the signatories:

Noam Chomsky, MIT (emeritus)
Wynton Marsalis, Jazz at Lincoln Center
Jonathan Rauch, Brookings Institution/The Atlantic
J.K. Rowling
Salman Rushdie, New York University
Gloria Steinem, writer and activist
Randi Weingarten, American Federation of Teachers

#12 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-08 03:46 PM | Reply

The tendency to dox, to act as judge and jury and crowd source information hoping for an execution, to black list any public figure you have even a slight disagreement with on any hot button issue.

This isn't maturity or wisdom and if a psychologist saw this description of an individual they would describe it as a crippling BPD.

#13 | Posted by Tor at 2020-07-08 06:58 PM | Reply

2/10, terrible attempt at trolling.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 07:29 PM | Reply

"The tendency to dox, to act as judge and jury and crowd source information hoping for an execution, to black list any public figure you have even a slight disagreement with on any hot button issue."

^
You just described what's going on in the minds of nearly every white person who calls the cops on blacks.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-08 08:26 PM | Reply

Article already posted:

drudge.com

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-08 10:26 PM | Reply

#4

Then RCade should merge that Back Page article with this one.

#17 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-08 11:41 PM | Reply

This missed the transition to the Front Page, but is the key point from the article:

"The democratic inclusion we want can be achieved only if we speak out against the intolerant climate that has set in on all sides.

The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted. While we have come to expect this on the radical right, censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture: an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty. We uphold the value of robust and even caustic counter-speech from all quarters. But it is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought. More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms.

This stifling atmosphere will ultimately harm the most vital causes of our time. The restriction of debate, whether by a repressive government or an intolerant society, invariably hurts those who lack power and makes everyone less capable of democratic participation. The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away."

#18 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-08 11:43 PM | Reply

"The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted"

Well duh.

You think Deplorables want a liberal society?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away."

Except that's not really true.

Is that how we defeated slavery?
Is that how we defeated Nazism?
Is that why there is no racism anymore?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When it comes to free speech, it's important to ask, "What would Comrade Stalin do?"

#21 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 03:05 PM | Reply

"Pretty funny coming from a guy who supports terrorism. So how are pals in AntiFa, snoofy? Beat up any random old people and children lately? 16 kids have been shot in the riots so far."

Not terrorists...freedom fighters.

They're only terrorists when they use violence in support of a cause you don't agree with. Otherwise, giddyup.

#22 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 03:07 PM | Reply

What is your fascination with Uncle Joe?
Is it the mustache?

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 03:07 PM | Reply

#8

Thanks for the Reductio ad Absurdum.

#24 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-09 03:17 PM | Reply

You're saying both the Civil War and WWII were Reductio ad Absurdum, then?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 03:20 PM | Reply

"You think Deplorables want a liberal society?"

I can't say if they do or don't. I can say with certainty that you do not.

Liberal in the classical sense anyway...not the progressive, neo-fascist way you've elected to support.

#26 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 03:34 PM | Reply

"Is that how we defeated slavery?"

We?

What civil war battle did you fight in?

"Is that how we defeated Nazism?"

What beach did you land on?

And it's interesting you left out any mention of communism. Maybe due to your hop that it be resurrected and re-branded. At least until re-branding is no longer necessary.

Dude, you couldn't defeat a wet paper sack. You're where you are right now 100%, because of those who can.

#27 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 03:37 PM | Reply

LOL!

No discussion of the issues.
Only talk about Snoofy.

Is that a twinkle in your eye?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 03:40 PM | Reply

All other things being equal, which society exhibits more liberty, MadBomber:

One where guns are restricted and there are ten gun homicides a year.
One where guns are a right and there are ten thousand gun homicides a year.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 03:43 PM | Reply

Aww, did I ----- him?

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 03:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"All other things being equal, which society exhibits more liberty, MadBomber:"

The one where you have more liberty...which would include the freedom to own guns.

And as the US begins to dissolve more police departments, USans are going to need those guns...if Chicago and Atlanta are any indication.

It's not people like me who should be worried about getting rid of law enforcement. It's people like you. You're going to make a far easier target than someone like myself.

#31 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 04:04 PM | Reply

"The one where you have more liberty...which would include the freedom to own guns."

What about the liberty of the ten thousand people whose lives were taken?

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What about the liberty of the ten thousand people whose lives were taken?"

By what? guns?

What about the tens of thousands whose lives were taken in vehicular accidents...which is still more of a threat to most than COVID, BTW?

What about all those who died from smoking related illnesses? Alcohol abuse. Drowning in pools? Stairs?

Do you need me to go on?

#33 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 04:15 PM | Reply

How about I just buy you a ticket to North Korea and we call it good.

No guns. No free speech. You'd be permanently protected by a Dear Leader, and Eternal Leader, the Supreme Leader, as well as whatever they're calling the sister nowadays.

Socialism...get yours today in North Korea!

#34 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-09 04:18 PM | Reply

"What about the liberty of the ten thousand people whose lives were taken?"
By what? guns?

Yes.
Them.

"What about the tens of thousands whose lives were taken in vehicular accidents"

Those were accidents.
What about them?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 04:19 PM | Reply

MadBomber, can really you not see how you've taken

Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death.

And twisted it to

Give Me Liberty And Give Me Death!

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-09 04:25 PM | Reply

You don't want Liberty Snoofy. You want a society that's forced to behave in a way you approve of.

#37 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-10 03:47 AM | Reply

"Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you're really in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech."

Noam Chomsky.

#38 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-07-10 03:48 AM | Reply

You can't have an Open Debate when Republicans believe in #AlternativeFacts.

How can you debate COVID-19 measures when Republicans honestly believe the numbers are way overblown and its no worse than the flu?

This is why 40% of the country will always support Trump and arguing with DR Trumpers really is pointless...except to laugh at how dumb they are.

#39 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-10 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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