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Saturday, July 11, 2020

President Donald Trump commuted the prison sentence of his longtime friend Roger Stone on Friday, after Stone was convicted of crimes that included lying to Congress in part, prosecutors said, to protect the President.

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Stone even admits he could have turned on Trump. That's some mafia -ish right there. Donald Trump is a criminal and the Republicans in Congress approve of this criminality.

#1 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2020-07-10 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

He chose friday evening because he knows it's corrupt.

Any repub who still supports trump blatantly supports corruption.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-07-10 08:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"He knows I was under enormous pressure to turn on him," Mr. Stone told the journalist Howard Fineman on Friday shortly before the announcement. "It would have eased my situation considerably. But I didn't."

So, IOW, Stone is admitting ------- is guilty of crimes. And, by implication, that it is widely known.

#3 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-07-10 08:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

If there were any actual able bodied patriots in the US, this administration would have been overthrown by now. We all love our iPhones and Facebook, and don't give an actual crap about our country or our neighbors, or our children's future. My excuse is I'm old and sick. What's yours?

#4 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-07-10 09:01 PM | Reply

So Much Winning!
#MAGA

Take a victory lap, GoNoles.

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 09:06 PM | Reply

Thank God there's a man that will still stand up for for his friends. Not like Obama, who left Biden hanging like a chad with no endorsement during the first primaries, and only latched on after it was clear the Dems were settling again for aging mediocrity. Biden at least isn't a hunch-back kankle wankle.

#6 | Posted by Spork at 2020-07-10 09:08 PM | Reply

"Not like Obama, who left Biden hanging like a chad with no endorsement during the first primaries,"

Come now.
You remember what happened the last time Obama filled out a bracket!
:)

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 09:10 PM | Reply

Trump won?

#8 | Posted by Spork at 2020-07-10 09:11 PM | Reply

LOL!!!

Trump won so much, there were no NCAA brackets this year.
So Much Winning!
#MAGA

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 09:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Thank God there's a man that will still stand up for for his friends.
#6 | POSTED BY SPORK AT 2020-07-10 09:08 PM | REPLY | FLAG:EYE ROLL

You do get that this will only make his bad look worse... and that this is the act of a man desperate for a victory no matter how smarmy.

Wait...never mind...you're a republicl0wn... you live for smarmy victories... like killing Saddam but letting presidential business partner bin Laden escape.

anyone sense a pattern here?

republicl0wn = presidents who leave office in disgrace

#10 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-10 09:16 PM | Reply

------- gonna scum.

#11 | Posted by cbob at 2020-07-10 09:20 PM | Reply

Covid doesn't care
This Jersey Shore distraction will be as short lived as sporks attention span

Stone will get his. He knows to much about republicans crimes
Dead man walking

#12 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-07-10 09:21 PM | Reply

Criminals

#13 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-07-10 09:45 PM | Reply

Stone's such a low-life POS - undifferentiated from Trump. They're made for each other. Add in a dead Roy Cohn and it would have been a rotting menage-a-trois of mendacity. Throw in Flynn and it's a four-way of flagitiousness.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-10 09:51 PM | Reply

Throw in Flynn and it's a four-way of flagitiousness.

#14 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2020-07-10 09:51 PM | FLAG:

The judges award Yav $1000 for Vocabulary for use of the word "flagitiousness."

#15 | Posted by cbob at 2020-07-10 09:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thank God there's a man that will still stand up for for his friends.

#6 | Posted by Spork

It's fun to watch you praising corrupt sociopathic criminals for protecting each other.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-07-10 10:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thank God there's a man that will still stand up for for his friends.

What the ---- is wrong with you?

#17 | Posted by rcade at 2020-07-10 10:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Maybe you meant disgusting :)

#18 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-07-10 10:13 PM | Reply

The judges award Yav $1000 for Vocabulary for use of the word "flagitiousness."
#15 | POSTED BY CBOB

Flagitious is a fancy and forceful word for "wicked and nasty."

Fancy and forceful. Describes YAV to a t.

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-10 10:14 PM | Reply

Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT

This is, like, super simple, right?

Stone had info that would have put Trump in jail. He told Trump he'd obstruct justice if he got clemency. Trump agreed.

If you think it went down another way, you haven't been paying attention to the last 40 years of Donald Trump.
10:06 PM Jul 10, 2020

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-10 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I never again want to see or hear a Republican complaining about a Democrat president's "abuse of power." You gave that up today.

#23 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-07-10 10:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Thank God there's a man that will still stand up for for his friends.
What the ---- is wrong with you?
#17 | POSTED BY RCADE

He thinks he's trolling the libs.
Apparently it's working.
Probably getting high-fives from Eberly and JeffJ on Discord as we speak.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 10:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Don't blame Trump.

Who handed over the credit card to a man with no experience, on his fourth wife and who had three bankruptcies and bragged about having hundreds of lawsuits in the pipeline?

Is everybody so blind that they don't know the difference between a Rolls Royce (Obama) and and a Ford Prius? (Trump)

#26 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-10 10:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Who handed over the credit card to a man with no experience, on his fourth wife and who had three bankruptcies and bragged about having hundreds of lawsuits in the pipeline?"

GOP voters, and then, more officially, GOP Electors.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 10:58 PM | Reply

It is the land of the free for Donald Trump's white criminals. Forget suicide watch, Ghislaine Maxwell
will be pardoned before the President leaves the White House for good.

#28 | Posted by Jaspar at 2020-07-10 11:01 PM | Reply

Outside of the United States, Rolls Royce is preferred over any American product. We prefer quality.

#29 | Posted by Jaspar at 2020-07-10 11:03 PM | Reply

- What the ---- is wrong with you?

#17 | POSTED BY RCADE

Here's story about his sort of people... the citizens of Brady, TX. They would rather drink radiated water than admit science
might exist:

www.texasobserver.org

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2020-07-10 11:10 PM | Reply

#26 - Well if you put it that way...
ouch!

#19 ::blush::

#31 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-10 11:11 PM | Reply

#26 Ford Pinto.

#32 | Posted by bored at 2020-07-10 11:16 PM | Reply

A Rolls Royce is a snooty pretentious car for snooty pretentious folks.

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-07-10 11:22 PM | Reply

A Rolls Royce is a snooty pretentious car for snooty pretentious folks.
#33 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

I took an older model to prom. Was decent ride, really comfortable. Until it broke down and the German driver had to huff and puff (I think there was a crank involved, can't rememeber) to fix it. So felt bad for him, but overall was unique idea. Enjoyed it.

#34 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-10 11:25 PM | Reply

#26 Ford Pinto.

I thought the Pinto was a Toyota? :p

#35 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-07-10 11:25 PM | Reply

I'd love to have a Rolls. Jay Leno says when he drives his sports cars people wave and smile but when he drives his Rolls they flip him off.

Anyways they make fine jet engines.

#36 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-07-10 11:35 PM | Reply

Setting goals for 2022: I would love to have a Rolls that broke down in heavy freeway traffic, on the way to a major sporting event, to amplify the hatred. Maybe even get shot at.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 11:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"the citizens of Brady, TX. They would rather drink radiated water than admit science
might exist"

Hmmm.
Brady, TX.
Is that anywhere near Bastrop County?
Happy Extinction!

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-10 11:58 PM | Reply

Criminals take care of each other...which is why omerta is alive and well.

#39 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-11 12:06 AM | Reply

and in other whataboutism news clinton pardoned the terrorist now leading BLM... pretty much all of our leaders are crooks that don't give a crap about us cattle.

"Susan Rosenberg sits on the board of a non-profit that is tied to Black Lives Matter's fundraising operations; reaction from former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerik."

www.msn.com

#40 | Posted by mutant at 2020-07-11 12:09 AM | Reply

Anyways they make fine jet engines.

The Merlin was no slouch either.

#41 | Posted by REDIAL at 2020-07-11 12:13 AM | Reply

Until it broke down and the German driver had to huff and puff (I think there was a crank involved, can't rememeber) to fix it. So felt bad for him, but overall was unique idea. Enjoyed it.

POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

When I think about Rolls Royces, the design of the back seat compartment is better than the front cabin. Even the 80s models, they had drop down airline-type tray tables in the backseat: it's a car made to be driven in, not to drive yourself.

Different type of sales concept.

#42 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 12:30 AM | Reply

#40

Classic WhataMutantism.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2020-07-11 12:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

For higher priced possible daily drivers, IMO: Benz G-Wagon, Porsche Cayenne, Tesla Model X ...
Open to other suggestions;)

#44 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 12:32 AM | Reply

"reaction from former NYPD Commissioner Bernie Kerik"

Kerik?
There's a blast from the PNAC past!
Wasn't this the guy who boned down a hoe overlooking the smoking rubble of the Twin Towers?

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-11 12:36 AM | Reply

SNOOFY

Right church, wrong pew.

I think Kerik was one of Giuliani's tag-alongs who did pretty well for himself until he got too big for his britches and ended up in jail. It was a long story. I think this is the guy Rudy tried to shoehorn into some big shot job in the Bush administration. Secretary of Homeland Security I think. His nomination got rejected. I think he ended up in jail at some point. Anyway, all water under the bridge now.

#46 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-11 04:23 AM | Reply

Trump commutes Roger Stone's sentence . . . and a free lifetime membership at Mar-a-Lago.

Who says crime doesn't pay?

#47 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-11 07:07 AM | Reply

Stone was persecuted for political crimes.

#48 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-07-11 08:38 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Stone was persecuted for political crimes.

No,

A jury concluded that Mr. Stone obstructed Congress, lied to investigators and tampered with a witness in the investigations that followed the 2016 race " "covering up for the president," as the judge in his case noted.

Stone was sentenced to three years and four months in prison after being convicted of seven felony counts including lying about his attempts to get details of Hillary Clinton's private emails from the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, then threatening a witness who could contradict his story.

www.washingtonpost.com

Stone was PROSECUTED for actual criminal acts that involved politics. The crimes themselves are only political because they were committed in service to Trump's own political ambitions and ends. don't conflate the two, they are not the same.

#49 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Speaking of Giuliani, he's still wondering around Europe (living 5-stars on our dime) purportedly looking for dirt on Hunter Biden.

Actually, he's on the lamp from the SDNY who want to question him about his partnership with Igor and Lev in that Russian money laundering scheme that was funneling money to Trump.

Even when Trump gets the boot, it'll be a long time before it's safe for Rudy to come home again.

#50 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-11 08:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Thank God there's a man that will still stand up for for his friends.
#6 | POSTED BY SPORK

Yes, that's why we elect people, so they can use the power of government to enrich and protect their friends.
I agree with RC, what the frack is wrong with you?

#51 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2020-07-11 08:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

*lamp = lam

#52 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-11 08:57 AM | Reply

Stone was prosecuted because he supported Trump. The left at least got half of what they wanted, they bankrupted him. I would like to hear what Biden's handlers tell him to say about this if they let him speak.

#53 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 08:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

FISHPAW

"Rober Stone is bankrupt?

"I would like to hear what Biden's handlers tell him to say about this if they let him speak."

Who cares? If it's important to YOU, send him some money.

#54 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-11 09:10 AM | Reply

#50. You should look at the crime rates in NY since Rudy left. It's a shame.

#55 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 09:12 AM | Reply

After mulling this over... I've decided I am still more pi$$ed at him over his CV19 response than this...buuuuuuuuut... I will give him extra credit for this clever diversion. I know he wants us to think about something else.

It's interesting... Bushturd2 got away with all sorts of $#!t ... then came Katrina.

Funny how those two men... who according to a pack of Gawd fearing something or others... were put there as a direct edict of Gawd's divine plan... yet the Bozos can't manage during an act of Gawd natural disaster.

I have $5 that says the UN may have to intervene to help us with disaster assistance... any takers?

#56 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-11 09:17 AM | Reply

#54. Who cares what Biden says? Every voter should. He's running for President isn't he? Oh I forgot, you don't care what he thinks, how he would govern. Just that Dems get power.

#57 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 09:17 AM | Reply

Would loathe to be a DoS foreign service member employee attempting to explain the pardon of a presidential crony to foreign press. "Rule of law?"

#58 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 09:17 AM | Reply

Wake me when they prosecute Hillary for paying for the Steele Folder.

#59 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-07-11 09:17 AM | Reply

Wake me when they prosecute Hillary for paying for the Steele Folder.

Would you like to cite the particular law that was broken? Fusion GPS was first hired by REPUBLICANS, so shouldn't they be charged first - if you can find what law was broken by simply gathering information?

#60 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 09:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Stone wouldn't have even gone to trial if Hillary won. Think about that.

#61 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 09:26 AM | Reply

Wake me when they prosecute Hillary for paying for the Steele Folder.

#59 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-0

This is your criterion for behaving like a decent American?

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:26 AM | Reply

Stone wouldn't have even gone to trial if Hillary won. Think about that.

#61 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020

So you think that Trump did the right thing here?

#63 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:28 AM | Reply

This morning I have less doubt than ever that if Trump declares himself some variety of dictator, FISHPAW and VISITOR are entirely on board. Because Hillary, mainly.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:30 AM | Reply

Trump and you various Trumpites have placed Joe Biden in the position of saving the Republic. The same role Lincoln played towards your soulmates, the Confederates; and FDR played in the Great Depression.

If we are very, very lucky Biden proves to be as great a man as Trump is a lousy one.

#65 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#59 ... Wake me when they prosecute Hillary for paying for the Steele Folder. ...

The Steele dossier was initiated by a Republican donor who was suspicious (apparently correctly) about candidate Trump's background. Or have you forgotten about that aspect of it?

#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 09:35 AM | Reply

... President Donald Trump commuted the prison sentence of his longtime friend Roger Stone ...

The cover-up continues.

#67 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 09:37 AM | Reply

#66 That is not true.

#68 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 09:40 AM | Reply

Or have you forgotten about that aspect of it?

#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 09:35 AM | Reply | Flag:

He didn't forget. He's trying in his own pathetic way to justify being a part of the Trump crime organization but not getting paid.

#69 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:42 AM | Reply

#66 That is not true.

#68 | Posted by fishpaw

Of course it's true.

Do you think that Trump did a good thing pardoning Stone?

Second request.

#70 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:43 AM | Reply

@#68 ... That is not true. ...

It is not true?

Or you do not want it to be true?

#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 09:46 AM | Reply

Third request.

Do you think Trump did something good pardoning Stone?

It's not a complicated question.

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:50 AM | Reply

Stone wouldn't have even gone to trial if Hillary won. Think about that.

#61 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

And Jeffrey dahmer wouldn't have gone to prison if he didn't eat people

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-07-11 09:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#69 Rubio hired Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump during the primary, after Rubio saw that Trump was going to be the nominee he stopped it. Then Clinton hired Fusion to dig up dirt and that's when Steele was hired and created the dossier. That's according to The NY Times and I don't think they are a Trump supporter. And yes Zed I don't think commuting Stone's sentence was a problem. He was railroaded like Flynn.

#74 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 09:58 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

This is why you and Trump are going to lose, FISHPAW. Neither one of you ever takes responsibility for yourself. Another way of stating that: you aren't men.

#75 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I bet Stone has a new tattoo

#76 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-07-11 10:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

That's right Zed, as usual you can't debate facts. You need Biden to win, you need someone else to coddle you since you can't think for yourself.

#77 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 10:02 AM | Reply

And yes Zed I don't think commuting Stone's sentence was a problem.

#74 | Posted by fishpaw

First, thanks for answering.

Second, whom you and Trump decide are martyrs is too damned convenient by half.

It LOOKS LIKE Donald Trump rewarded a member of his crime family. Exactly the way the mafia does.

It LOOKS LIKE that because that's what he did.

#78 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 10:02 AM | Reply

@#74 ... Rubio hired Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump during the primary, after Rubio saw that Trump was going to be the nominee he stopped it. ...

Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier (2018)
www.washingtonpost.com

...Fusion GPS's work researching Trump began during the Republican presidential primaries, when the GOP donor paid for the firm to investigate the real estate magnate's background.

Fusion GPS did not start off looking at Trump's Russia ties but quickly realized that those relationships were extensive, according to the people familiar with the matter.

When the Republican donor stopped paying for the research, Elias, acting on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC, agreed to pay for the work to continue. The Democrats paid for research, including by Fusion GPS, because of concerns that little was known about Trump and his business interests, according to the people familiar with the matter. ...

[emphasis mine]

I especially like the part I highlighted. :)


Which raises another question, since the republicans apparently knew of candidate Trump's ties to Russia this early in the campaign, why didn't they raise any red flags about it?


#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 10:05 AM | Reply

That's right Zed, as usual you can't debate facts

#77 | Posted by fishpaw a

You have no facts. What you have is a perverse belief in a quasi-pagan religion. We don't debate. I point out that you're silly, and dangerous, and as a true Trumpite you double-down on being silly and dangerous.

#80 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 10:05 AM | Reply

@#78 ... It LOOKS LIKE Donald Trump rewarded a member of his crime family. Exactly the way the mafia does. ...

Yup.

#81 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 10:06 AM | Reply

Which raises another question, since the republicans apparently knew of candidate Trump's ties to Russia this early in the campaign, why didn't they raise any red flags about it?

#79 | Posted by LampLighter

Not the role of Flying Monkeys, is it?

#82 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 10:07 AM | Reply

And yes Zed I don't think commuting Stone's sentence was a problem. He was railroaded like Flynn.

#74 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Flynn doesn't need sympathy, the guy tried to broker deals to foreign emissaries before becoming National Security Adviser. Then while filling out his clearance paperwork (something he's done for decades in the armed forces), neglected to mention his recent connections with individuals who were foreign politically exposed persons.

#83 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 10:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And yes Zed I don't think commuting Stone's sentence was a problem.

If you worked in a foreign embassy for the United States, stationed in the Philippines or India how would you explain the pardoning of Stone to the local press?
One aspect of the US's presence in those nations is to portray a model democracy, free press, and example of rule of law.

#84 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Christopher Steele in sworn testimony said Hillary Clinton was his sole client.

#85 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 10:15 AM | Reply

Christopher Steele in sworn testimony said Hillary Clinton was his sole client.

Stop lying Fishface. Steele was hired by Fusion GPS and only Fusion GPS. He never knew who was actually funding Fusion's efforts because he had no need to know. Steele was a contract employee, not an operator for the Clinton campaign.

You should be ashamed of blatantly lying about something everyone already knows with certainty.

#86 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#82 Mueller spent 2 and a half years and over 40 million trying to find something. And he didn't.

#87 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 10:19 AM | Reply

Someone put Fish back in the water. All this flopping and gasping just isn't right.

#88 | Posted by YAV at 2020-07-11 10:20 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Christopher Steele in sworn testimony said Hillary Clinton was his sole client.

#85 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 10:15 AM | Reply

I've lost you. So what?

Please explain this part of the Trump catechism to me.

#89 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 10:20 AM | Reply

#86 Ok so you are saying Steel lied. I'm just telling you what he said. If you don't want to believe him that's fine but don't need to call me a liar. Stop acting like a toddler.

#90 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 10:23 AM | Reply

#89 You argued that the Steele Dossier was the product of Republicans, it's own writer disagrees with you.

#91 | Posted by fishpaw at 2020-07-11 10:26 AM | Reply

@#85 ... Christopher Steele in sworn testimony said Hillary Clinton was his sole client. ...

While I'd prefer you proffer a link for your assertions...

The Steele dossier had origins in Fusion GPS before Steele was on board, as I noted above. So that Mr Steele stated that the Clinton campaign was his sole client could be correct.

Fusion GPS, hired by a Republican donor, gathered a lot of information (including extensive ties of candidate Trump to Russia) and passed it on to Mr Steele to eventually be included in the Steele dossier.

Then there's still that little tidbit about candidate Trump's extensive relationships with the Russians, and that the Republicans apparently knew of those ties early in the campaign but did nothing about them. Had the Russians penetrated that deeply into the Republican party already at this point in the campaign?


#92 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 10:27 AM | Reply

Stop acting like a toddler.

Post a link or STFU. Your word is worthless. You cannot post a link because there is no link to Steele saying what you allege.

Just post the link.

#93 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

U.S. Consulate in Shenyang... just pushed out a warning to Americans in China to, "Exercise increased caution in the PRC due to arbitrary enforcement of local laws for purposes other than maintaining law & order. This may include detention...

With recent actions, the US is apparently not too dissimilar on the stance of "arbitrary enforcement of laws."

#94 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 10:35 AM | Reply

In October 2015, Fusion GPS was contracted by conservative political website The Washington Free Beacon to provide general opposition research on Trump and other Republican presidential candidates. In April 2016, an attorney for Hillary Clinton's campaign and the DNC separately hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump, while The Free Beacon stopped its backing in May 2016.[4]

In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. DNC officials denied knowing their attorney had contracted with Fusion GPS, and Steele asserted he was not aware the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research until months after he contracted with Fusion GPS.[11][12] Following Trump's election as president, funding from Clinton and the DNC ceased, but Steele continued his research and was reportedly paid directly by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson.[13] While compiling the dossier, Steele passed information to both British and American intelligence services.[14][15]

en.wikipedia.org

#95 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 10:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

In the spring of 2016, Orbis Business Intelligence"a small investigative-research firm that Steele and a partner had founded, in 2009, after leaving M.I.6, Britain's Secret Intelligence Service"had agreed to do opposition research on Trump's murky relationship with Russia. Under the arrangement, Orbis was a subcontractor working for Fusion GPS, a private research firm in Washington. Fusion, in turn, had been contracted by a law firm, Perkins Coie, which represented both Hillary Clinton's Presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Several months after Steele signed the deal, he learned that, through this chain, his research was being jointly subsidized by the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. In all, Steele was paid a hundred and sixty-eight thousand dollars for his work.

www.newyorker.com

#96 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#86 Ok so you are saying Steel lied.

#90 | Posted by fishpaw a

No. Not at all.

What I'm asking is what you think it matters. I do understand this is a key part of Trumpite mythology, but that you think it has any significance is batty.

#97 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 11:08 AM | Reply

Fusion GPS:
BeatingADeadHorse.meme.GIF

#98 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-11 11:08 AM | Reply

Hillary Clinton contracted opposition research? I mean, BFD.

#99 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 11:09 AM | Reply

It used to be that lying to the cops to obstruct an investigation into foreign interference in an American election, followed by witness tampering, would get Republicans very upset.

I just imagine for a moment that Obama (unwittingly or not) got help from, say, Iran to become President, then he commuted the sentence of his go-between who lied to the FBI.

It will never cease to blow my mind the level of outright anti-American conduct Trumpers are willing to both accept and outright celebrate.

Trump supporters are traitorous scum. Period.

#100 | Posted by JOE at 2020-07-11 11:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I want to leave FISHPAW with this:

AG Barr said that Stone's case was "righteous prosecution".

Is Donald Trump really enough inspiration to square your circle?

Pray to Donald. On your knees. I'm sure he'll give you something.

#101 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-11 11:19 AM | Reply

I knew Trump's defenders here would defend this.

It's unbelievable how low they will go. Stone isn't even hiding the fact that he refused to provide information implicating Trump in the hopes he'd get a commutation. It is a staggering act of corruption.

#102 | Posted by rcade at 2020-07-11 11:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

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Mitt Romney
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Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.

9:06 AM Jul 11, 2020


#103 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

82 Mueller spent 2 and a half years and over 40 million trying to find something. And he didn't.

#87 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

You lie.

You are so full of Trump.

Lies and the lying liars who tell them.

Mueller found plenty of evidence. And Trumpy blocked it all.

Republicans admitted it.

Then they said, "so what? What are you gonna do about it?

Now we know what to do about IT.

Vote.

#104 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-11 12:12 PM | Reply

The Roger Stone Commutation Is Even More Corrupt Than It Seems
www.lawfareblog.com

...President Trump's commutation of the prison sentence of his long-time confidante Roger Stone is wholly unsurprising. Indeed, given Trump's repeated teasing of the matter over the life of the case against Stone, it would have been something of surprise had he not intervened so that his felonious friend was spared time behind bars.

But the predictable nature of Trump's action should not obscure its rank corruption. In fact, the predictability makes the commutation all the more corrupt, the capstone of an all-but-open attempt on the president's part to obstruct justice in a self-protective fashion over a protracted period of time. That may sound like hyperbole, but it's actually not.

Trump publicly encouraged Stone not to cooperate with Robert Mueller's investigation; he publicly dangled clemency as a reward for silence; and he has now delivered.

The act is predictable precisely because the corrupt action is so naked....

[emphasis mine]

#105 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 12:13 PM | Reply

"It is a staggering act of corruption."

So is A.G. Barr's. But he did a credible CYA job so the whole Justice Department wouldn't revolt.

#106 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-11 12:17 PM | Reply

This is actually a crime, bribery, chargeable either federally or in New York State. Combover Quisling opens the door for more prosecution of himself and Stone.

#107 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2020-07-11 12:22 PM | Reply

Wake me when they prosecute Hillary for paying for the Steele Folder.

#59 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2020-07-11 09:17 AM | REPLY | FLAG:PPPPFFFTTTT!!!!!!!

Yesssss because that is way more reprehensible than Trumpibunkerboi screwing the pooch on the CV19 response...

Honestly... you people are pathetic... seriously... the things you focus on. Feckless... the world laughs at you.

The only one's all uppity about that folder are cl0wns like you.

#108 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-11 01:00 PM | Reply

This is actually a crime, bribery, chargeable either federally or in New York State

Assuming it is a crime, would New York prosecutors have jurisdiction over a crime that arguably occurred in DC? Was Stone in NY at the time? Just curious how that could play out.

#109 | Posted by JOE at 2020-07-11 01:10 PM | Reply

I'm fascinated by which Deplorables didn't get invited to the DR Alt-Right Discord for Esteemed Republican Thinkers.

Fishpaw didn't get invited, for example.

#FeelsBadMan

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-11 02:18 PM | Reply

TRump is just a criminal. Anybody that supports him is adding and abetting.

#111 | Posted by tknees at 2020-07-11 05:33 PM | Reply

Trump just misses going down on Roger Stone. They wouldn't allow him conjugal visits with Roge. Hahahaha

#112 | Posted by jvel777 at 2020-07-12 08:38 AM | Reply

Next trump will pardon all the terrorists in Guantanamo Bay prisons.

#113 | Posted by jvel777 at 2020-07-12 08:40 AM | Reply

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