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Sunday, July 12, 2020

Quinta Jurecic, Benjamin Wittes: Roger Stone isn't just Trump's confidante or friend. According to newly unsealed material in the Mueller report, he's also a person who had the power to reveal to investigators that Trump likely lied to Mueller"and to whom Trump publicly dangled rewards if Stone refused to provide Mueller with that information. Now, it seems, the president is making good on that promise.



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During the 2016 campaign, Mueller writes, Stone "made several attempts to contact WikiLeaks founder Assange, boasted of his access to Assange, and was in regular contact with Campaign officials about the releases that Assange made and was believed to be planning." He spoke repeatedly about his connections to Assange, witnesses told Mueller, and his ability to find out what new releases of information WikiLeaks was planning. Crucially, the unredacted information includes testimony from multiple witnesses who described Stone's conversations about upcoming WikiLeaks releases with high-level campaign officials"including Trump's campaign chairman, Paul Manafort"and even Trump himself.

According to Manafort, Trump personally told the chairman that he should keep in touch with Stone about WikiLeaks. Another campaign official, Rick Gates, recalled an incident during the campaign in which Trump spoke by phone with Stone and then told Gates that, as Mueller paraphrases, "more releases of damaging information would be coming." Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen told Mueller about overhearing a phone call in which Stone told Trump that "he had just gotten off the phone with Julian Assange and in a couple of days WikiLeaks would release information." Then, Mueller writes, once WikiLeaks began dumping material damaging to Clinton in July 2016, Trump "said to Cohen something to the effect of, I guess Roger was right.'"

So Trump clearly knew about and encouraged Stone's outreach to WikiLeaks, the unredacted report shows. Yet in written answers the president provided to Mueller's office in the course of the special counsel's investigation, Trump insisted that he did not recall "the specifics of any call [he] had" with Stone during the campaign or any discussions with Stone of WikiLeaks. And shortly after he submitted those answers, the unredacted report states, Trump began tweeting publicly in support of Stone"calling him "brave" and congratulating his "guts" for refusing to testify.

Trump's tweets were always suspicious, to say the least. And his answers to Mueller seemed less than entirely credible even when the redacted report was first released. But the newly revealed text makes clear Mueller's suspicions that Trump lied in his written answers"and then pushed Stone not to testify in order to prevent Mueller from discovering that lie. As Mueller put it dryly: "[T]he President's conduct could also be viewed as reflecting his awareness that Stone could provide evidence that would run counter to the President's denials and would link the President to Stone's efforts to reach out to WikiLeaks." The special counsel also writes that Trump's tweets to Stone"along with his tweets criticizing Cohen, who was by then cooperating with investigators " "support the inference that the President intended to communicate a message that witnesses could be rewarded for refusing to provide testimony adverse to the President and disparaged if they chose to cooperate."

Quid pro quo and it doesn't involve Joe. Trump's own people tell the story, not his opponents.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-11 06:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#1 ... Trump's own people tell the story, not his opponents. ...

Which makes me wonder what Pres Trump's own people would have said if Pres Trump had not dangled pardons in front of them to keep quiet.

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-11 06:59 PM | Reply

You know what I have noticed?

In Trumplandia, if it's bad then IT'S ALWAYS WORSE THAN IT SEEMS.

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-07-12 10:44 AM | Reply

And in the end, not one Trump supporter will care enough not to vote for him.
They like his corruption, it fits them.

#4 | Posted by 503jc69 at 2020-07-12 11:15 AM | Reply

"Who needs a conspiracy when what they're doing to you is right on the front page?"

Izzy Stone

#5 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-07-12 11:43 AM | Reply

Please don't post Lawfare stories. It was founded by Neo-Cons and it's purpose is to promote war. Those guys are just mad we arent in Syria or Libya or attacking Iran. And I honestly don't care what the Neo-Cons think.

#6 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-12 01:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Those guys are just mad we arent in Syria or Libya

We aren't?

You're as clueless as ever.

Maybe ask the space aliens to give you a brain next time you see them.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-12 01:53 PM | Reply

#7 | Posted by ClownShack

*at war in Libya, Syria, and Iran


Now keep reading their crap if you want more war.

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-12 02:17 PM | Reply

Republicans have done nothing good for this country in the past 20 years. Nada. They have been giving aid and comfort to Trump's shenanigans and writing their party's own political obituary!

#9 | Posted by BingyBunny at 2020-07-12 03:44 PM | Reply

I don't agree with everything those guys have ever done so I'm gonna throw out their overwhelming evidence.

Solid logic bro.

#10 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-07-12 07:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 Stone was convicted of RussiaGate, which was never a crime in the first place.


#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-12 08:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Never a crime in the first place.

Wow,pretty ------ lawyers I guess.

#12 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-07-12 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

ahaha that is a retort? Come on, you can deflect better than that.
Oh wait, I get it. You can't call people from a website who write collectively "Nevertrumpers," so you had to smear them unjustly another way, by referring to them as "neocons.".
Makes perfect sense. *Rodney Daingerfield sarcastic side-eye*

#13 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-07-12 11:33 PM | Reply

Also Heliumrat:
It must suck to be a lawyer that had a client convicted of something that wasn't a crime"in your scholarly opinion.
Can't wait for your next peer-reviewed article: "The Trump Phenomenon: How the Governmental Deep State Was Suddenly Cast Aside" in the next edition of The Journal of Nonsense.

#14 | Posted by e1g1 at 2020-07-12 11:37 PM | Reply

#10 Stone was convicted of RussiaGate, which was never a crime in the first place.


Lying to Congress is a crime. Stone was convicted of 7 counts.

Why didn't he appeal and win that way?

HELIUMRAT is who Republicans are now. They celebrate Trump's criminal actions. They are nothing more than traitors and we should stop pretending otherwise.

#15 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-13 12:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#15 He was railroaded on process crimes for something in a fantasy novel paid for by Hillary and the DNC. Tell me, do you still believe Julian Assange is a Russian agent? How about everyone else? How about about Mueller - he found no evidence at all of a crime to cover up.

#16 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-13 05:04 PM | Reply

He was railroaded on process crimes

Witness tampering, obstructing an FBI investigation, and hiding records from investigators are not "process crimes," no matter how badly you want them to be.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2020-07-13 05:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Witness tampering, obstructing an FBI investigation, and hiding records from investigators of what again?

#18 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-13 05:41 PM | Reply

Russia's actions were a threat to America's democracy. It was critical that they be investigated and understood. By late 2016, the FBI had evidence that the Russians had signaled to a Trump campaign adviser that they could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to the Democratic candidate. And the FBI knew that the Russians had done just that: Beginning in July 2016, WikiLeaks released emails stolen by Russian military intelligence officers from the Clinton campaign. Other online personas using false names " fronts for Russian military intelligence " also released Clinton campaign emails.

Stone became a central figure in our investigation for two key reasons: He communicated in 2016 with individuals known to us to be Russian intelligence officers, and he claimed advance knowledge of WikiLeaks' release of emails stolen by those Russian intelligence officers.

The jury ultimately convicted Stone of obstruction of a congressional investigation, five counts of making false statements to Congress and tampering with a witness. Because his sentence has been commuted, he will not go to prison. But his conviction stands.

Russian efforts to interfere in our political system, and the essential question of whether those efforts involved the Trump campaign, required investigation. In that investigation, it was critical for us (and, before us, the FBI) to obtain full and accurate information. Likewise, it was critical for Congress to obtain accurate information from its witnesses. When a subject lies to investigators, it strikes at the core of the government's efforts to find the truth and hold wrongdoers accountable. It may ultimately impede those efforts.

You really look like quite the imbecile trying to imply that what Stone was convicted for was somehow a miscarriage of justice. Trump has had more campaign officials and staff either plead or be found guilty of crimes than any President ever.

#19 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-13 05:50 PM | Reply

of what

Your ignorance, or your lack of faith in a particular investigation, is not a defense to real actual crimes.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2020-07-13 05:52 PM | Reply

#19 'tis a silly hill to die on.

#21 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-13 06:00 PM | Reply

HELIUMRAT is who Republicans are now. They celebrate Trump's criminal actions. They are nothing more than traitors and we should stop pretending otherwise.

that's pretty much about it.

Eberly thinks since the HeliumRats are only peeing in the shallow end of the pool, he'll be safe over in the "I have a career and a house and a 401(K)" deep end of the pool.

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-13 06:04 PM | Reply

#19 'tis a silly hill to die on.

The only thing that died was your insipidly ignorant and stupid assertion that obstructing legally conducted investigations aren't criminal acts.


#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-13 06:11 PM | Reply

The whole article is nothing but lies. Just like RussiaGate.

Grow up.

#24 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-13 11:01 PM | Reply

Stone was gagged from talking about his trial even after it was over - the only time in history that has ever happened. It was not an unbiased jury, either. And at the height of Red Scare 2.0 having no evidence meant nothing. Look at Flynn. All the people targeted in the RusiaHoax should be pardoned.

It was all an attempt to get Trump with a fantasy novel. AND YOU BOUGHT IT!!!

You should be ashamed of yourself.

#25 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-07-13 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You should be ashamed of yourself.

It takes a special kind of imbecile to spout such discredited BS like you do!

Senate Intel report confirms Russia aimed to help Trump in 2016

The Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

Tuesday's bipartisan report, from a panel chaired by North Carolina Republican Richard Burr, undercuts Trump's years of efforts to portray allegations of Kremlin assistance to his campaign as a "hoax," driven by Democrats and a "deep state" embedded within the government bureaucracy.

Everything you wrote is a proven lie and doesn't deserve to be posted here. You have nothing but the fact that Trump surrounded himself with felons, yet you claim those who exposed them are corrupt. What a fool you are.

*Former Trump 2016 campaign chairman Paul Manafort: Sentenced to 7.5 years in prison this March for bank and tax fraud and crimes related to his work as a political consultant in Ukraine.

*Trump's former personal attorney Michael Cohen: Received a three-year prison sentence in Dec. 2018 for tax evasion, bank fraud, lying to Congress and campaign finance violations.

*Former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos: Convicted of lying to investigators about about Russian contacts. He served 12 days in prison and in October, filed to run for former Rep. Katie Hill's California seat.

*Richard Pinedo: The California man was sentenced to six months in prison in Oct. 2018 for selling bank account numbers to Russians who engaged in election interference. He has no known connection to Trump.

*Dutch attorney Alex van der Zwaan: Pleaded guilty to lying to federal investigators about his work for law firm Skadden, Arps, Meagher, & Flom LLP and Affiliates in 2012. He was sentenced to 30 days in prison and a $20,000 fine.

*Ex-Trump campaign deputy chairman Rick Gates: Pleaded guilty in Feb. 2018 to conspiracy and lying to the FBI. After cooperating extensively in multiple investigations, Gates was sentenced in December to 45 days in jail, three years of probation and 300 hours of community service.

*Roger Stone: Sentenced to 40 months in prison for crimes that include obstruction of justice, lying to Congress and witness tampering. A federal jury convicted Stone last year after he lied to Congress about his efforts to learn more about when WikiLeaks would publish damaging emails about Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential election.

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-14 07:12 AM | Reply

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