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Monday, July 13, 2020

The U.S. has surpassed 3.2 million confirmed cases of COVID-19. Almost 135,000 deaths have been confirmed, according to John Hopkins University data. Globally, there have been 12.7 million cases and over 565,000 deaths.

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yay. winning :(

#1 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-07-12 07:08 PM | Reply

Why y'all so obsessed with COVID-19?

All Deaths Matter.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-12 07:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

#3 | Posted by billy_boy at 2020-07-12 07:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Finally... Trumpibunkerboi has found something he's good at.

#4 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-12 07:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Did my laundry today and noticed the dryer balls look a lot like giant Covid-19s spinning round and round our hot world.

#5 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-07-12 07:33 PM | Reply

The "rights" argument of the day is reminiscent of the last years of bush when the economy tanked

They would say:
Sure, the economy is in free fall, but only because the media is reporting on it
If only the media would stop reporting on your plummeting home values, retirement plans, investments and so on, the problem(s) would just go away

Its evident they are putting their heads into this mode right now

#6 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-07-12 07:40 PM | Reply

Where's STC to tell us about how the death rate is still falling, so despite the record numbers of new cases, it was just the incompetence of Cuomo and the "Blue" states that led to such high numbers of deaths? He'll disingenuously quote yesterdays rate of 380 deaths and pretend like that isn't because reporting is low on weekends. Then he'd use that to "show" how CoViD isn't really dangerous.

I think his comment has aged about as well as the guy back in March that kept claiming CoViD19 wasn't a big deal because more people die falling down the stairs in day.

You'd think that at some point, they'd learn to close their mouths and listen to experts. Maybe then we wouldn't have been in such a horrible position.

According to Worldometer, the US is just shy of 138,000 deaths and the 7-day moving average deaths per day is up above 700. That's up 200/day in less than a week. But let's assume it stays at 700/day. In about 12 days, CoViD19 will surpass the 5th leading cause of death in the US in 2018. At that same rate, by early August, it will surpass the 4th leading cause of death in 2018. By mid-August, it will have surpassed the number 3 cause of death in 2018. That's just assuming the rate doesn't accelerate. Since the infection rate has skyrocketed, that seems highly unlikely.

I would be gratefully surprised if we don't actually surpass that grim milestone by early August, but I think there is almost no chance now that it won't make it to at least the number 3 position before the end of the year. Chances are high that those folks are already on that path. As predicted, the number of deaths is going up just about 3 weeks after the infection rate started to accelerate.

Can that be enough to convince people to do the right thing? Is it being the 3rd leading cause of death in the U.S. enough? What will it take?

#7 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2020-07-13 12:07 AM | Reply

Stay home except for absolutely essential tasks.

Wear a mask every time you go out.

If we all do these things, we will slow down the pandemic and save lives.

#8 | Posted by rcade at 2020-07-13 07:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

If everyone wore masks we could cut the rate of infection below 1.0 which would mean we would begin to reduce the rate at an increasing number until the numbers of infections virtually disappears.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-13 07:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

His base loves him. He could kill 135,000 people on 5th AVE and they wouldn't care.

p.s.
Stay safe in FL... Danni and RCADE.

I did not vote for that man this is not the America I deserve.

#10 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-13 08:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

RCADE

For anybody who has not been tested they might be interested to know that the FDA has recently authorize a first test for patients At-Home. It must be doctor authorized.

The FDA re-issued the emergency use authorization (EUA) for LabCorps to permit samples self-collected by patients at home using LabCorp's "Pixel Home Collection kit.

The kit contains a VERY specific Q-tip style cotton swab for nasal collection, saline and an insulated package for returning the swab to LabCorp. This authorization ONLY applies to the swabs contained in the kit. Other Q-tips will be rejected.

People should check with their doctor to see if this home-sampling kit is available in their state.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-13 08:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is furiously trying to show that he has kept his promises. He promised 100,000 to 200,000 COVID deaths in the US, and he is going to deliver...

#12 | Posted by catdog at 2020-07-13 09:26 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Stay home except for absolutely essential tasks.
Wear a mask every time you go out.
If we all do these things, we will slow down the pandemic and save lives."

Just to reinforce this:

Stats for NY state for 7/11/20:

Total tested: 62,418

Total new cases: 677

Total deaths: 5

www.governor.ny.gov

covid19tracker.health.ny.gov

I'm not sure how long these stats will hold now that most of the state is at Phase 4 reopening and major portions of the country are experiencing pandemic surges, but fingers crossed:

forward.ny.gov

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-13 09:26 AM | Reply

PS For 7/12/20:

NYC reports zero deaths for first time since March

As the pandemic reached new highs in Florida and across the world, New York City provided a glimmer of hope: zero deaths for the first time in four months.

www.msn.com

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-13 09:29 AM | Reply

AND, we have now over 1 MILLION RECOVERED

#15 | Posted by Maverick at 2020-07-13 09:53 AM | Reply

One million people drove their cars yesterday and didn't die. Why doesn't the news talk about THAT??!!

#16 | Posted by rcade at 2020-07-13 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#15 is like the sorry sssed posts to social media with cops playing basketball with a few kids.

I went to the grocery store last week.

The kid ringing my shht up didn't attempt to kill me, pepper spray my wife, or beat any of my kids with a stick for filming it.

#17 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-07-13 10:11 AM | Reply

AND, we have now over 1 MILLION RECOVERED

#15 | POSTED BY MAVERICK AT 2020-07-13 09:53 AM | FLAG: EYE ROLL

If all the cases are counted by the outcome right now it is roughly one person in 11 dies. That will most likely change when the spike figures start rolling in then it will be 1 in 5 again. Anyways in six months... it beats out heart disease...a damn impressive hoax.

This is what I don't like about republicl0wnery especially when it comes to math. They have insular minds. That one little thingie they find... I don't care what it is... it always makes the larger picture disappear.

The clown brigade's logic one of the top 10 factors in why we lose war after war... and here we go again.

#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-13 10:22 AM | Reply

#15 | Posted by Maverick

Define "recovered" please.

ICU boss in the hardest-hit part of Italy says many patients who recover from COVID-19 still have 'chronic damage'

And by 'Chronic Damage' he doesn't mean a nagging cough months later. I have seen no numbers on this but what I have been reading is pretty much anyone that needs Oxygen ends up with Chronic damage - not a ventilator but mere oxygen. That's well over half of those hospitalized. And people like you will whine when some of the unavoidably end up applying for disability saying nonsense like "They shouldn't have got sick" etc. Think about the LONG TERM cost to people and the country.

This is all stupid and it's because of the vanity and ego of the man in charge. Even Boris Johnson is "woke" on COVID-19...

#19 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-07-13 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#11 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

I'm not too keen on those.

That sampling method has issues with professionals collecting it. In the hands of a person who's probably not going to do it correctly because it's uncomfortable?

#20 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-13 10:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#13 ... Just to reinforce this: ...

State epidemiologist: Months into the coronavirus pandemic, Connecticut is now in "a very fortunate place"
www.courant.com

...Connecticut state epidemiologist Dr. Matt Cartter, who has made few public appearances in recent weeks, said this week that he's feeling "grateful" for the state's progress in containing the coronavirus, although he said the situation is still not ideal.

COVID-19 hit Connecticut hard early on, as cases spread from the hot spot of New York City into Fairfield County and beyond. By mid- to late-April, the state often saw more than 100 coronavirus-related deaths each day, with a peak of 204 deaths reported on April 20. At the same time, Connecticut had nearly 2,000 patients hospitalized with the virus, threatening to overwhelm the health care system.

Now, the state has fewer than 100 hospitalized coronavirus patients and this week had two separate days with zero coronavirus-related deaths.

Just got the good news that we've had another day of no COVID-related deaths in the state. I appreciate everyone's support to help mitigate the impact of this virus on our state. We'll have more info to report on today's metrics in a little bit. #ConnecticutRespect
  -- Governor Ned Lamont (@GovNedLamont) July 10, 2020



#21 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-13 11:14 AM | Reply

JPW

"In the hands of a person who's probably not going to do it correctly because it's uncomfortable?"

I agree, I've had the nasal swab and it hurts like hell. At least a quick second or so I wasn't expecting that. I wonder what happened to the cheek swabs. That's what I thought I was going in for.

I suppose someone could take the kit to their doctor to make sure it was done right. But it's still going to hurt. It felt like somebody putting a needle in my sinus cavity.

#23 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-13 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I wonder what happened to the cheek swabs. That's what I thought I was going in for.

My understanding is the mouth doesn't have enough virus in it to be a viable testing site.

I've only had the up the nose once and it was an influenza test a few years ago. If it wasn't for the nurse continuing to push the thing up there I would have stopped LOL.

#24 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-13 11:30 AM | Reply

JPW

I winced a little bit from surprise but it wasn't unbearable considering the alternative. I'd never recommend that it shouldn't be done. Only that they should be prepared for a quick sharp pain. The peace of mind for knowing is worth it.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-13 12:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bottleneck for U.S. Coronavirus Response: The Fax Machine
www.nytimes.com

...Before public health officials can manage the pandemic, they must deal with a broken data system that sends incomplete results in formats they can't easily use.

Public health officials in Houston are struggling to keep up with one of the nation's largest coronavirus outbreaks. They are desperate to trace cases and quarantine patients before they spread the virus to others. But first, they must negotiate with the office fax machine.

The machine at the Harris County Public Health department in Houston recently became overwhelmed when one laboratory sent a large batch of test results, spraying hundreds of pages all over the floor.

"Picture the image of hundreds of faxes coming through, and the machine just shooting out paper," said Dr. Umair Shah, executive director of the department. The county has so far recorded more than 40,000 coronavirus cases...


#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-13 12:24 PM | Reply

It's likely quite a bit higher.

Here in Texas, the governor is only allowing reporting of fully confirmed COVID-19 cases.

But since tests are harder to come by, we aren't testing anyone.

Oh yes, and Houston is using refrigeration trucks at hospitals right now because the morgues are full.

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-13 12:41 PM | Reply

I was trying to run numbers on the hospitalization rates, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of great data out there. I found this page on the CDC website: www.cdc.gov

As of the week ending July 4th, they list a 107.2/100k rate across the total population. That comes out to about 352k hospitalizations. That would indicate that about 37% of those hospitalized die. That seems high. This data seems suspect - I'm guessing a number of states aren't reporting their hospitalization numbers. My recollection was the hospitalization rate was approximately 20% of positive cases. In a quick search, I find that number supported by some data out of New York, but no good summaries.

Even with that suspect number, that's over 12% of cases requiring hospitalization. If these numbers hold, for every death, there are 1.7 people who are hospitalized and don't die. So, if we go with an estimate of 200k deaths this year, that's 440k people with potentially life-long effects from the virus. Depending on where I look, 55-60% of those hospitalized are 18-64. About 27% are 18-49. That's approximately 3-3.5% of 18-49 year-olds testing positive end up in the hospital, if I've done my math correctly.

It's frustrating that the reporting on this is so poor. It's also frustrating that there isn't more discussion about the consequences for those who didn't die, but may have chronic effects. It makes me think of Scarlet Fever, which could damage the heart in ways that wouldn't show up for years.

#28 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2020-07-13 12:42 PM | Reply

That's approximately 3-3.5% of 18-49 year-olds testing positive end up in the hospital, if I've done my math correctly.

We all know what happens when you do math in public.

I realized I had a bad assumption in my math. I assumed the positivity rate was constant across populations, and that's clearly not the case. So the percentage of 18-49 year-olds ending up in the hospital is incorrect. Since the numbers have changed over time, it's hard to really understand the likelihood of hospitalization vs positive test.

Since the data collection is so poor, we'll probably really never understand the full scope of this disease.

#29 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2020-07-13 12:52 PM | Reply

AND, we have now over 1 MILLION RECOVERED

#15 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

Maverick seems like the kind of guy who touches a live wire and goes back for more because it was "just a little tingle".

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-13 04:17 PM | Reply

AND, we have now over 1 MILLION RECOVERED

#15 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

Actually... No.

We have found that 90% of people who have had COVID-19 have lingering symptoms or long term health damage.

The actual fully recovery rate is only 10%.

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-13 06:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The orange diaper sniper is the most successful bio-terrorist in human history.

www.rawstory.com

#32 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-07-14 12:19 AM | Reply

Even on Gilligan's Island they listened to the professor, not the millionaire.

Listen to Fauci, not Trump

#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-14 02:21 AM | Reply

Florida reported 132 new coronavirus-related deaths on Tuesday, breaking the state's record for the highest single-day death toll.

thehill.com

Governor DeSantis is doing a tremendous job.

~ Incel Fatberg ~

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2020-07-14 05:46 PM | Reply

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