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Sunday, July 12, 2020

CNN's Dana Bash interviewed United States Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos on Sunday's State of Union. Bash pushed multiple times to get DeVos to answer specific questions about the plan to have schools fully reopen. Bash showed a clip to DeVos where Fairfax County, Virginia's school superintendent explained that social distancing with 200,000 students in the existing building space is simply not possible. "We're the size of five Pentagons," said Scott Brabrand, Superintendent, Fairfax County, Virginia, School Board."Our default on a normal school day in Fairfax County is 18 inches, not six feet, not three feet, 18 inches. We're the size of five Pentagons. You would need another five Pentagons of space to be able to safely accommodate all of the students in Fairfax County Public Schools." Bash tried very hard, with no success, to get DeVos to explain how Fairfax County could open safely. Though schools throughout America will all be facing this same problem in just a few weeks, DeVos gave no potential solution to the social distancing problem. Ultimately DeVos said she would meet with Fairfax County to discuss a plan, as if Fairfax County is the only education system in America that doesn't have the physical space to practice social distancing.


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DEVOS: Well, I'm glad you brought up Fairfax County, because I think it's a very important contrast to, for example, the plans that Miami- Dade County has in place.

And I understand you're having leaders from both of those districts on your program today.

I -- the contract between the two is stark. In Miami-Dade County, they have a continuity-of-instruction plan that has been robust. I mean, they -- granted, they had this plan or they've been working on this plan because they often experience hurricane damage.

But this plan has multiple ...

BASH: Well, can we just stick -- can we stick on Fairfax County, ma'am, and not Miami-Dade, because this is something that you ...

DEVOS: Yes, I'm going to -- I'm going to contrast it.

BASH: ... that you have -- that you have brought up, and you have said it's not ...

DEVOS: But I'm going to contrast it, because it's a multiplicity of platforms.

It's a -- it's a wide variety of approaches to -- but with the expectation that, if you have to move to a remote instruction situation, that you have full-time learning going on for all students at all times.

BASH: OK, I spent time in Fairfax County. I don't want to get to -- much into this, but ...

DEVOS: The Fairfax County plan is not -- it is not a full-time learning plan.

BASH: But they do have full-time virtual learning.

DEVOS: The full-time -- the Fairfax County plan is not -- no, no, four days a week, either four days a week online and online, and the fifth day not, and two -- or two days a week in person.

These are not valid options and choices for families. And it's not full-time instruction.


What -- what you are saying is you want kids back in school. What he is saying is, because they have almost 200,000 children in their school district, they would have to build the size of five Pentagons in order to accommodate what you are asking for. They're a wealthy district, but, even with money, it's just not feasible. So, what is your recommendation, given that reality?

DEVOS: My recommendation is, he take up the offer to meet with my team and some of the folks from the CDC and the task force to talk about ways that they can look at this freshly and differently on behalf of the students they're serving.

I have many of them on my -- on my team.

BASH: Should they follow CDC guidelines?

DEVOS: The CDC guidelines are just that, meant to be flexible and meant to be applied as appropriate for the situation.

And so I would look forward to ...

BASH: But you understand how confusing it is and how hard it is ...

DEVOS: I would look forward to work -- to working with him to ...

BASH: ... to have CDC guidelines on one hand ...

DEVOS: Can I finish my statement?

BASH: Sure. Go ahead.

DEVOS: I was just going to say, I would look forward to meeting with him, along with some of the folks from the task force, and talking about how this can practically happen.

I think we're all on the same page. We want kids to get back to school. We want them to be learning full-time, full-time ...

BASH: What ...

DEVOS: ... not just a part-time, not just an episodic situation. But kids have got to be learning full-time ...


DEVOS: ... and have the expectation that the next school year is going to give them at least a school year's worth of learning, if not more ...


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Bigger Than You

#1 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-07-13 12:15 AM | Reply

The GOP is a Death Cult.
And they're coming for America's children.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-13 12:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

What does DeVos care?

She rides around on a private jet, married into incredible wealth, and rarely has to soil her hands with 'the little people.'

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-13 01:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Didn't this festering ducthole already try to defund Special Olympics and put guns in the classroom? She's total scum. Peter Strzok would shred that practiced smirk off her like a lamprey on whale carcass. I'm gussing DeVoss servers act as intermediaries to Russian funds. Are they selling the childrens information?

#4 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2020-07-13 01:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Not only does this woman not have a plan, she doesn't have a clue. Individual school districts and colleges will have to do what is right for their students according to how covid is affecting their area. In places where people allow politics to run their districts, there will probably be tragedy. If not the students, then the teachers and support staff will suffer.

#5 | Posted by rukiddin at 2020-07-13 07:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

White devil speaks with forked tongue.

#6 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-07-13 07:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Deloris Umbridge comes to life.

#7 | Posted by Angrydad at 2020-07-13 07:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Devos actually does not care how many kids get sick she has the title Secretary of Education but her goal is actually to destroy public education in the United States. I wouldn't spit on her if she was on fire and that really is the truth. Pure scum.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-13 07:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Let me just constras-
... I'm trying to contrast!-"

The big difference is that Florida has FLVS - Florida virtual school - so a kid's parents has the option to enroll their kid in fully accredited, online school for the fall/spring semesters. If the parents can afford it, they are able to keep their kids home and avoid exposing them to ~20+ other Covid vectors in the classroom.

The rhetoric from the EduSec is mindless. This is a great opportunity for educational innovation, with online, or in-person micro-schools (think homeschool-esque organizations with an instructor but a small number of students "in class."). There are ways to preserve one's family quaranTeam bubble without having hundreds to thousands of students in a big building for 8hrs/day.

#9 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-13 08:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Imagine how the substitute teacher situation will work, with an individual working at one school for a couple days, then a different school another day, without immediately feeling symptoms if they get Covid from being out and about.

That's a superspreader event.

#10 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2020-07-13 08:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

DeVos, like so many Trumpists, is, underneath, way down deep, a ------- monster.

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2020-07-13 08:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4


absolutely. Once a teacher sets foot in a school.....they can't go into another one.

#12 | Posted by eberly at 2020-07-13 09:27 AM | Reply

"Grades 9 and 10, please report to the death panel in the cafeteria. Not all of you will be selected as tributes today..."
-Betsy DeVos, a big fan of the Hunger Games

#13 | Posted by catdog at 2020-07-13 09:32 AM | Reply

Not only does this woman not have a plan, she doesn't have a clue. Individual school districts and colleges will have to do what is right for their students according to how covid is affecting their area. In places where people allow politics to run their districts, there will probably be tragedy. If not the students, then the teachers and support staff will suffer.


This woman's ultimate goal is shoveling all that public education money into private schools.

There's no intention of having a plan or a clue. This is all leveraging the COVID pandemic to force school privatization. They're expecting schools to refuse and will then revoke the funding to divert to private schools that are less crowded and already better funded and, therefore, better prepared and able to handle COVID and schooling.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-13 10:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

... DeVos Dodges Questions About Social Distancing Feasibility in Schools ...

Of course she dodged the question. The reason she did so is simple...

She has been tasked by Pres Trump to reopen, reopen, reopen.

So her goal is not the safety and health of the children and teachers.

Her goal is to meet Pres Trump's re-election goal of reopening, without concern about the health of the children or the teachers.

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-13 10:14 AM | Reply

Kids and Teachers getting sick is the plan.

Then they can push private schools.

Rich kids get educated. Poor kids go to the factories.

#16 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-07-13 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Same question to DeVos as Trump:

If it wasn't safe for Paul Manafort to remain in prison due to COVID-19, who could it possibly be safe to send tens of millions of kids back to school?

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-13 07:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

how could it be possibly be afe to send tens of millions of kids back to school?

#18 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-13 07:30 PM | Reply

Just to put some perspective on the true risk of re-opening schools:

madeline lane-mckinley

Jul 12
Betsy DeVos says that "only" 0.02% of children will probably die as a result of schools re-opening.
That's 14,740 children.
That's about 40 times the number of school shooting victims from the last 10 years.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-13 09:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Large school systems are telling Trump and Devos to screw themselves, they aren't reopening no matter what the threats about funding. I am fairly sure Broward Co. here in Florida is going tell him to F himself and hopefully Miami-Dade will too. Ghouls like Trump and DeVos should never be given positions of power. When you don't even value children's lives, you're just not a human being any more. Not that either of those two ever were. I do have to admit this morning though, the Trump voters are disgusting, risking children's live for political gain....that is disgusting. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-14 05:27 AM | Reply

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