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Thursday, July 16, 2020

Many Texas hospitals are no longer accepting transfer patients in order to maintain space for a surge that's expected to come. In some parts of the state, it's already here.

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#1 | Posted by Charliecharles at 2020-07-15 01:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In Florida, there are currently 54 hospitals that have reached ICU capacity & show zero ICU beds available, according to data released by the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA). Ten of those hospitals are in Miami-Dade County.

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#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2020-07-15 07:44 AM | Reply

What happened to the Army Corp of Engineers and their overnight construction of a make-shift hospital?

Did DeSantis forget that another round of kiss-ass pandering to Trump was past due?

#3 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-15 08:07 AM | Reply

Abbott has backed down but my Congressman, Jodey Arrington, just sent me an e-mail stating that he stands four-square behind letting students and teachers get sick and die because the schools MUST be opened now.

Of course, he doesn't phrase it quite that way. What he implies is that HE'S being brave and the he's "fighting" for those same kids and teachers.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-15 09:13 AM | Reply

No worries, the National Guard is on the way!

To intercept data collection meant for the CDC.

#5 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-07-15 05:46 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2020-07-15 09:13 AM | FLAG:

Schools will be opened but if you've watched the last 2 weeks worth of updates from the districts, it's a rapid march to at-home-learning until at least Feb 2021.

#6 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 08:18 AM | Reply

Not enough ventilators? I don't believe that.

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-07-16 08:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"it's a rapid march to at-home-learning until at least Feb 2021."

No evidence to show that Feb. 2021 will be any different from today. The Pandemic is here to stay until Americans get serious about combatting it and far too many still refuse to even wear a mask. In Miami-Dade you will be fined for not wearing one, that should be statewide and enforced, hell it should be nationwide and enforced. If you ever want us to return to normal we need a national strategy that is strictly enforced for everyone.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-16 08:59 AM | Reply

If you ever want us to return to normal we need a national strategy that is strictly enforced for everyone.

#8 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-07-16 08:59 AM | FLAG:

Send the police to beat the ---- out of protesters and force them into their homes. Very, very Trumpkin of you. Mayors aren't doing that as far as I can tell, except #CHAZ after the white citizen police shot unarmed black people by mistake.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Then Karen, after institutionally racist enforcement in public, we can shift gears and be SnitchNation and call the cops on every house party as we hum the Auferstanden aus Ruinen to ourselves.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:06 AM | Reply

"Send the police to beat the ---- out of protesters and force them into their homes."

Yeah because protesters are immune to fines. No need to break heads, just give them a ticket and if they don't pay suspend their drivers license.
Every problem doesn't have to be solved with violent attacks by police.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-16 09:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

When in doubt ask yourself, "how did Germany do it?? Other nations have nearly eliminated the Pandemic, NY has had zero deaths for about a week now, how did they do it? Not by sending millions of kids back to school, that's for damn sure.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-16 09:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Every problem doesn't have to be solved with violent attacks by police.

#11 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-07-16 09:07 AM | FLAG:

60,000 people in 2 blocks. 200ish police. Good luck with that, you only have to process 300 tickets a person in a few hours, or do a mass detainment and make any potential outbreaks way worse.

#13 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:09 AM | Reply

When in doubt ask yourself, "how did Germany do it??

#12 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-07-16 09:09 AM | FLAG:

Mono-culture, trust in government, strict border controls. Something that doesn't exist here.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Make your excuses all you want Sitz, other nations have managed to do it. Sooner or later we are going to have to. Once a few get fined the rest will fall into line. Make the fines increasingly expensive until everyone is wearing a mask. Lap Dog Desantis wants Disney World open and kids back in school, that ain't going to work.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-16 09:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Memo to Okiehomie Gov. Kevin "I'm a businessman" Stitt: close the I-35 Red River Bridge. Stat!

#16 | Posted by catdog at 2020-07-16 09:14 AM | Reply

"Mono-culture, trust in government, strict border controls. Something that doesn't exist here."

Obviously though, it needs to be something that does exist here. During WWII, Americans lived with many inconveniences so that we could win the war, it's time we became more like my parents generation.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2020-07-16 09:14 AM | Reply

Make your excuses all you want Sitz, other nations have managed to do it. Sooner or later we are going to have to.

#15 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-07-16 09:13 AM | FLAG:

I have nothing to excuse. You're an authoritarian that wants to punish people into compliance. Reality isn't lining up with what you want. I wear a mask. I'm on self-quarantine #2. Here the schools will open and they'll be learning from home.

In Germany, since you brought it up, they don't have that luxury. They have actively been against computers in school saying it leads to poor performance, causes addiction and obesity. Kids here, perhaps not Florida, get laptops and tablets. They have a regulatory burden preventing rapid adoption of software to bridge the gap in learning while kids stay home.

#18 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:16 AM | Reply

More fun, 3 days ago, Germany is pushing out studies saying Covid doesn't really spread in schools. They're doing local quarantines for wave 2, not a top down lockdown by Federal mandate.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:19 AM | Reply

Obviously though, it needs to be something that does exist here. During WWII, Americans lived with many inconveniences so that we could win the war, it's time we became more like my parents generation.

#17 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2020-07-16 09:14 AM | FLAG:

Don't get caught wearing your hood. You'll get cancel cultured.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-16 09:21 AM | Reply

"it's time we became more like my parents generation."

Yes, I'm sure you would love to back in time to act like them.

send 400K+ US soldiers to their deaths
detain American citizens and place them in internment camps with no due process
drop atomic bombs on women and children
kill millions of other people

Are you sure you have the stomach for that? Today, you're here whining about Tucker Carlson and the evil person he is......LOL

#21 | Posted by eberly at 2020-07-16 09:34 AM | Reply

More fun, 3 days ago, Germany is pushing out studies saying Covid doesn't really spread in schools.

Under conditions of minimal local spread.

Our case loads are orders of magnitude higher. It's absurd to apply those studies to the question here.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-16 11:51 AM | Reply

#21 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Could you be a little more disingenuous?

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2020-07-16 11:52 AM | Reply

-Could you be a little more disingenuous?

I wasn't fair with all of that.

Let me add to it.

Her parent's generation didn't have civil rights yet either....at least not for another 20 years. Nice for minorities then as well, right?

And let's not forget that generation represented the brains behind the Vietnam War.

So, while it's fair to point out that citizens sacrificed more for the greater good (not sure I completely agree with it but it's a fair point) during WW 2......what's really disingenuous is to ignore everything I pointed out.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2020-07-16 11:57 AM | Reply

This is public health ----. Americans don't do public anything well. Everything is about ME. ME . ME.
Any coercion no matter how nescessary it may be,or how time limited it is likely to be,is met with shreiks about LIBERTY.

Like little children who don't want to be sent to their rooms.

Quarantine is a blunt instrument. It has also been proven by centuries of practice to work.

American liberty will be our undoing. The very thing we treasure will be our Achilles heel.

The future is unknown. The status quo is done.

#25 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-07-16 10:10 PM | Reply

We can talk openly about what they sacrificed on the home front as far as everyday civilian life. Gasoline, rubber, meats, sugar, coffee, various produce. The result of that rationing in the white mono-culture of the time is the massive, extreme calorie production industrial farm system we have now as a geopolitical strategy required by hegemony.

There are parallels to be seen. Whenever an item was announced to be rationed, or rumored to be rationed, it resulted in panic buying and shortages. As Eb noted, they did force people to stay at home at gun point. Walled them in even. That white supremacy action is a blight on American history.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-07-17 10:23 AM | Reply

"Are you sure you have the stomach for that"

Not only has trump turned "conservatism" into a death cult, he has turned them against the magic time period they ALL used to pine for.

Sucks it out like a vampire

#27 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2020-07-17 11:34 AM | Reply

Most comments here are based on lies. Reporting false numbers...on purpose. Not that you care even the slightest about the truth.

"UPDATE: San Antonio reporting issue leads Texas to remove more than 3,000 reported coronavirus cases "

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#28 | Posted by rhet at 2020-07-17 12:49 PM | Reply

#28 | Posted by rhet

Where is the lie? That just sounds like confusion on reporting. There are tested positive and probable cases. Probable cases are either not tested or they don't have the results back yet. So they adjusted out the probable cases.

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-07-17 03:27 PM | Reply

Mono-culture, trust in government, strict border controls. Something that doesn't exist here.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Someone hasn't been to Germany in a LONG time. They don't have a mono-culture. They don't have strict border controls.

#30 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-07-17 03:30 PM | Reply

Where is the lie? That just sounds like confusion on reporting. There are tested positive and probable cases. Probable cases are either not tested or they don't have the results back yet. So they adjusted out the probable cases.

#29 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-07-17 03:27 PM |

Thanks for the reply.

I think that you may be giving them more credit than they deserve. Also this kind of "confusion" took place in Red River Parrish LA as well as in

Orlando and no telling how many other non audited places.

What's that sarcastic saying attributed, I think, to Senator Everit Dirksen ?...a billion here and billion there and pretty soon you're talking about

real money.

#31 | Posted by rhet at 2020-07-17 03:40 PM | Reply

#21 | Posted by eberly

Not going to speak for Danni but let's address your concerns about that generation because that ignorant comment pisses me off...

send 400K+ US soldiers to their deaths - to stop the greatest threat to mankind in the 20th century and protect our Freedoms and Values. Hard thing to do and a sacrifice.

detain American citizens and place them in internment camps with no due process - utterly wrong constitutionally and against our stated values. A terrible mistake and a sacrifice by the those of Japanese descent. Many went on to join the military and fight for this country DESPITE the way their people were treated.

drop atomic bombs on women and children - perhaps the one most controversial act of the USA not only in the war but ever. It is hard not to agree with Truman for doing it when you look at what happened invading Okinawa and the projected loss of life of not only Americans but Japanese (including women and children) in a full on invasion. The Japanese Regardless it is still an incredible tragedy. I personally mourn for the innocent. However this was not an act of the generation - it was the act of a President and those in the military that executed the orders.

kill millions of other people - Millions? You mean as a whole those that lost their lives in WWII? How would you have stopped the evil being perpetrated by the Natzees and Japaneses? Where did offering up other countries (Austria, Czech Republic, Poland) to the Germans get everyone else? How did that work out for the French? What happened to the Jews, Roma and others under German Rule? How about the Chinese, Filipinos, Koreans and others under Japanese Rule?

There is a cost for fighting evil incarnate. The Axis nations practiced evil incarnate.

#32 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2020-07-17 04:09 PM | Reply

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Pete, I agree with everything you posted.

I'm not critical of those choices made at the time. I asked Danni to consider all of when she criticizes and declares so much today as so "evil" "worst ever" etc....she acts as if the threats today are much larger than what we faced during WW2.

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2020-07-17 04:17 PM | Reply

At the risk of sounding like an -----!
Womp, womp!
Maybe next time you won't vote for a -------- governor and a -------- president?

#34 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-07-17 08:02 PM | Reply

#32

Good post, pete. I agree for the most part except the A-bomb. I wouldn't have even wasted the available fissile material on the Trinity test. I'd say the fire bombing campaign was just as bad or worse. The bombs spared innumerable lives.

#35 | Posted by willowby at 2020-07-17 08:29 PM | Reply

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