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Wednesday, July 15, 2020

As coronavirus cases surge and states rollback re-openings, former Vice President Joe Biden opens up his biggest lead this year over President Donald Trump in the race for the White House. Registered voters back Biden over Trump 52 - 37 percent, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. This compares to a June 18th national poll when Biden led Trump 49 - 41 percent. Since March, Biden's lead had ranged from 8 to 11 percentage points. Independents are a key factor behind Biden's widening lead as they now back him 51 - 34 percent, while in June, independents were split with 43 percent for Biden and 40 percent for Trump. There is also some movement among Republicans as they back Trump 84 - 9 percent, compared to 92 - 7 percent in June. Democrats go to Biden 91 - 5 percent, little changed from 93 - 4 percent in June.

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The polls need to take into account that many Trump supporters who will vote for him are too embarrassed to admit it. The Donald is slime... his supporters are worse.

#1 | Posted by snuffy at 2020-07-15 06:46 PM | Reply

Leaving office in disgrace... oink oink and weee weee weee all the way home.

Cout em republiclcl0wns... 3rd to leave in humiliation and disgrace in less than half a century. History will reflect very favorably about the Democratic part using relative analysis.

#2 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2020-07-15 06:54 PM | Reply

Still within the margin of error.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-15 06:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

This new poll must really scare Trump. His hair turned gray overnight.

#4 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-15 06:56 PM | Reply

Biden is also leading outside the margin of error in 6 key swing states.

Wait until the fight over schools being forced to reopen with in-person attendance or lose federal funding begins. Parents want to protect their kids ... and themselves from COVID-19.

Less than 4 months out, it's looking like Trump will lose in a landslide and won't be able to claim the whole thing was rigged, as he's already claimed it will be.

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 07:00 PM | Reply

Less than 4 months out, it's looking like Trump will lose in a landslide and won't be able to claim the whole thing was rigged, as he's already claimed it will be.

#5 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I've been calling this for about 6 months, welcome aboard the bandwagon.
All are welcome, All aboard!!!

#6 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-07-15 07:10 PM | Reply

Before we start celebrating, let's remember that in 2016 Hillary Clinton had a 12 point lead over Trump and the press was declaring it was over:

The 2016 election is already decided. History says Hillary Clinton Wins

#7 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-15 07:21 PM | Reply

#6 | Posted by a_monson

I've been on the 'get rid of Trump bandwagon' since 2015!

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 07:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#7 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer

Swing state polls weren't this good for Clinton at this point in 2016 as they are for Biden now.

#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 07:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Its funny, because I have personally observed Trumpers abandon him simply because they like to support winners and they're finally realizing Trump is a loser. Of course, this is anecdotal, has anyone else observed this?

#10 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-07-15 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 did you observe GoNoles in 2016? He seemed to love being on the Trump Train just because it was winning, with no regard for policy or the future.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-15 07:36 PM | Reply

#9 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

Which will make his loss all the more devastating.

I keep reminding you all.

Republicans control the swing states.

Polls don't mean anything. It's just counting unhatched chickens.

Also. Texas isn't turning blue.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-15 07:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dems love to celebrate winning all the polls but the one's that count.

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2020-07-15 07:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For whatever reason (certainly misogyny, but also her own faults) Biden doesn't carry the baggage that Clinton had. I think Biden is going to stomp Trump in the E.C.

A lot of people wanted something new, so they gambled on Trump. They certainly got something novel, but not for the better. And after the chaos the Trump administration has sown, those that voted for Trump in 2016 will want someone familiar, someone reliable. That's Biden.

But I'm not blind, and #1 is correct; a lot of voters will fill in the Trump box but won't admit to it.

#14 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-07-15 07:40 PM | Reply

Before we start celebrating,

#7 | POSTED BY LEFTCOASTLAWYER

Quit pretending you don't have other names here, and that you don't have the nicest tiddies of any man in LA,,,,

If that's even where those tiddies of yours are housed..

#15 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-07-15 07:41 PM | Reply

Before we start celebrating,
#7 | POSTED BY LEFTCOASTLAWYER

We?

Who here do you think wants to be included with the likes of you and your banned boyfriend?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-07-15 07:44 PM | Reply

AU

And there's no FBI Director Comey to publicly announce 11 days ahead of the 2016 election that he's re-opening an investigation into Hillary's missing e-mails (which turned out weren't missing at all.)

Comey was a fool for believing believing Trump's promise not to fire him.

Trump tied to do the same thing to Joe Biden vis-a-vis his son, Hunter, but it blew up in his face.

Trump is nothing else if not redundant.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-15 07:45 PM | Reply

I think Biden is going to stomp Trump in the E.C.

I wish I had your optimism.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-15 07:45 PM | Reply

Wait til y'all see the crazy stuff Trump has planned for the next few months.

It's gonna get silly and then some.

#19 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-07-15 07:51 PM | Reply

#11

I did. And good for GoNoles for changing his thinking, and admitting to it. I was never a Trumper, but when I first showed up here, I'd try and pal around with the likes of Jak_Se_Mao. For me, the turning point was a combination of reflecting on Bush's disastrous administration and the way the right treated Obama when I considered him a moderate and a good POTUS. I've gotten even more lefty since then.

I also noticed 'Noles turning on Trump coincided with the mass exodus of the misinformation Trumper crowd, so there's that for what what its worth.

#20 | Posted by horstngraben at 2020-07-15 07:52 PM | Reply

"The second batch of stimulus checks will only go to my supporters."

-President Knucklehead

#21 | Posted by LostAngeles at 2020-07-15 07:53 PM | Reply

"Second Batch"

Hahahaha!

Not while Trump and McConnell are in office.

"Let them eat Hamberders!"
-Donnie Antoinette.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-07-15 08:01 PM | Reply

@#5 ... Less than 4 months out, it's looking like Trump will lose in a landslide...

The current trends do not look good for the Trump campaign. They definitely have their job laid out for them over the next four months.

The first thing they need to do is reverse Pres Trump's downward momentum that appears to have taken hold since the beginning of May or so.

Unfortunately, instead of changing, Pres Trump appears to be doubling down. Maybe that tactic will work for him, but for now I'm remaining skeptical.

#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-15 08:03 PM | Reply

but, Biden thinks he is running for the Senate

Rasmussen is even within the margin of error.

#24 | Posted by Maverick at 2020-07-15 08:08 PM | Reply

President Donald Trump has a 91 per cent chance of winning the November 2020 election, according to a political science professor who has correctly predicted five out of six elections since 1996.

"The Primary Model gives Trump a 91 percent chance of winning in November," Stony Brook professor Helmut Norpoth told Mediaite on Tuesday.

Mr Norpoth's model, not only will the president be re-elected, but he will expand his margin in the electoral college from 304 electoral votes in 2016 to 362 in 2020.

"The Independent"

#25 | Posted by Maverick at 2020-07-15 08:14 PM | Reply

@#7 ... let's remember that in 2016 Hillary Clinton had a 12 point lead over Trump and the press was declaring it was over:...

The "press" you cite was an op-ed by a Democratic strategist. Hardly representative of "the press."

That aside...

There is a fairly significant difference between 2016 and 2020.

In 2016 Ms Clinton had a fairly high strong negative approval polling, and the Trump campaign was able to leverage that moving into November.

In 2020 Mr Biden's strong negative approval polling is fairly low (much lower than Ms Clinton's).

It is one reason why the Trump campaign is so desperate to find something negative that they can get to stick to Mr Biden. It looks to me that is the reason why Mr Giuliani has been creating dirt on the Bidens in Ukraine and why the Durham "investigation" was timed for a late-summer release, etc.

That said, RCP's Electoral College still has 201 Electoral votes in the toss-up category ( www.realclearpolitics.com ).

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-15 08:14 PM | Reply

I'm voting for Chump. I like losers that don't win.

#27 | Posted by LesWit at 2020-07-15 08:17 PM | Reply

#12 | Posted by ClownShack

This pandemic is only going to be worse in November.

We're only 3 1/2 months away from the election. And the right wing hasn't been going after Biden for 30 years like they did Clinton. 77,000 votes betwen PA, MI, and WI swung the EC to Trump 2016. At that time, all anyone had to go on was his supposed 'businessman' schtick people saw on The Apprentice.

Now, however, America is floundering because Trump has proven how self-centered, devoid of empathy, and incapable he is of handling the crisis he put us in purely because of his narcissistic, devoid of empathy, science and fact-denying management of this pandemic.

This ain't your 2016 election.

#28 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 08:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And if Biden wins, all it took was a pandemic and race riots.

#29 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-07-15 08:32 PM | Reply

Oh... and another Great Depression..

#30 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-07-15 08:33 PM | Reply

Trump Removes Brad Parscale as Campaign Manager, Promotes Bill Stepien
www.redstate.com

The change begins...

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-15 09:01 PM | Reply

WHATSLEFT

"And if Biden wins, all it took was a pandemic and race riots."

Trump was a big help too ya' know. He personally killed a whole bunch of people. It's very unkind of you to deny him his share of the credit.

#32 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-15 09:06 PM | Reply

LAMP

"Trump Removes Brad Parscale as Campaign Manager"

After Tulsa, we KNEW this was coming. But Parscale is good friends Jared Kushner so he didn't get fired . . . just demoted.

#33 | Posted by Twinpac at 2020-07-15 09:30 PM | Reply

@#33 ... After Tulsa, we KNEW this was coming. ...

Yup.

I didn't know about the Parscale - Kushner thing, so while I was expecting a shake-up I thought it would involve casting Mr Parscale aside not a demotion.

#34 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-07-15 09:39 PM | Reply

I've been on the 'get rid of Trump bandwagon' since 2015!

#8 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

I'm talking about the landslide/blue tsunami bandwagon.
Plenty have wanted to get rid of him.

#35 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-07-15 09:42 PM | Reply

It's gonna get silly and then some.
#19 | Posted by LostAngeles

If that's all that happens I'll be happy. The October surprise will probably be a war which Rs always think will get them reelected.

#36 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-07-15 09:46 PM | Reply

#35 | Posted by a_monson

I've been donating to candidates at the state and national all over the country, many of whom won in 2018, and some (hopefully all) who will win November. I'll be phone banking too as we get closer to November ...

#37 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 09:59 PM | Reply

Trump Removes Brad Parscale as Campaign Manager, Promotes Bill Stepien
www.redstate.com

The change begins...

#31 | Posted by LampLighter

Trump was going to campaign on the economy (which Obama built with no help from Republicans).

Now, with millions out of work and millions more about to feel the pinch, he has nothing. AND it's obvious to anyone with 3 brain cells that he's badly mismanaged the response to COVID-19 - his Katrina. And as we get into fall with new cases and the death toll continuing to mount, there's no way he'll be in a better position 3 1/2 months from now.

#38 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 10:18 PM | Reply

- Rasmussen is

Republican Polling, Inc.

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2020-07-15 10:20 PM | Reply

All Trump could do is be like a veteran baseball coach begging to keep his job:

"Don't fire me! Remember when I brought you that'98 World Series win?!"

He can't run as a successful businessman. Most thinking people are aware his schtick is smoke and mirrors, his business a money laundering scheme kept afloat with Russian-backed loans from Deutche Bank.

#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 10:22 PM | Reply

Former Vice President Joe Biden has a 13-point lead over President Donald Trump in Pennsylvania, a poll released Wednesday shows, revealing Biden's strength in the battleground commonwealth that Trump carried four years ago.

The Monmouth University poll shows Biden with 53 percent support among registered voters polled in Pennsylvania compared with Trump's 40 percent. Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania by less than a percentage point in 2016 on his way to an Electoral College victory.

www.politico.com

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-15 10:43 PM | Reply

And as we get into fall with new cases and the death toll continuing to mount, there's no way he'll be in a better position 3 1/2 months from now.
#38 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

And if there is a way, it'll be tied to a drastically harmful event against the American people.

#42 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-15 10:51 PM | Reply

"Don't fire me! Remember when I brought you that'98 World Series win?!"

Wasn't that Joe Torrey? And why would the '98 World Series against the San Diego Padres be the championship he'd be touting?

#43 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-15 10:53 PM | Reply

*Torre

#44 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-15 10:55 PM | Reply

RSTYBEACH

I was making an analogy about the kind of thing Trump might say to excuse our current situation.

#45 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-16 06:01 AM | Reply

Monmouth - released yesterday:

Joe Biden holds a 13 point lead over Donald Trump among all registered voters in Pennsylvania according to the Monmouth ("Mon-muth") University Poll. Among likely voters, the Democrat has an edge of 7 to 10 points depending on the expected turnout level.

www.monmouth.edu


#46 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-07-16 07:30 AM | Reply

The October surprise will probably be a war which Rs always think will get them reelected.

#36 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-07-15

Maybe, but I think it will be indictments of Hunter, Obama, and Biden himself.

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-16 08:40 AM | Reply

Mr Norpoth's model, not only will the president be re-elected, but he will expand his margin in the electoral college from 304 electoral votes in 2016 to 362 in 2020.

#25 | Posted by Maverick at 202

This is absurd on its face.

Trump may yet win, but a Red Wave there will not be.

Someone mentioned people will vote for Trump but lie that they did that. There will be an equal and perhaps greater number of people who lie to their friends about voting Trump at all.

#48 | Posted by Zed at 2020-07-16 08:43 AM | Reply

It's funny that all the same people here that were overconfident in 2016 are acting the same this year.

#49 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-07-16 09:34 AM | Reply

It's funny that all the same people here that were overconfident in 2016 are acting the same this year.

I don't think it's overconfidence to merely quote and report snapshot polls. Everyone with a brain understands that the only poll that matters is the election results after November 3rd.

But I also don't understand why smart people keep referring to 2016 when the today is not remotely the same political environment. Trump didn't have 3 plus years of presidential carnage in his wake in 2016, nor was he trying to demagogue a global pandemic instead of using already proven effective methods to minimize its damage and effects as millions of Americans have been infected and thousands upon thousands have lost their lives - and continue to do so every passing day with no end in sight.

In 2016, Hillary was the determinant issue that pushed Trump over the finish line by 80,000 votes in three states. In 2020, Trump is the issue, and there is nothing on the horizon that appears to erase the public's firm acknowledgment that the majority has had enough of his brand of feckless, self-obsessed leadership.

But as always, nothing is determined officially until it is.

#50 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-07-16 10:24 AM | Reply

I don't think it's overconfidence to merely quote and report snapshot polls.

#50 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I think you'd better go read the comments again.

#51 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-07-16 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump has 3 1/2 years of political baggage.

Hillary had more, but was projected to win from the monent Trump announced he was running to election night.

News in that day and night was President Clinton and 'this is the only way Trump might win' but even if he does all these things, he still loses.

Then the next morning was mourning.

Does Biden have baggage? He's been in Washington longer than history. He should either have baggage or trophies.

Seattle's Chop will probably be a National Campaign ad.

#52 | Posted by Petrous at 2020-07-16 12:31 PM | Reply

#15

I am sure that Righto will enjoy an email from you begging for his "man-tiddies".

#51

I agree, thinking that Clinton was a shoo-in kept voters home and lead to Trump's win. AU has the correct approach, treat election day as the only poll that counts and work the phones, knock on doors, do whatever it takes to make sure that people vote.

#53 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-16 03:36 PM | Reply

I agree, thinking that Clinton was a shoo-in kept voters home and lead to Trump's win. AU has the correct approach, treat election day as the only poll that counts and work the phones, knock on doors, do whatever it takes to make sure that people vote.
#53 | POSTED BY LEFTCOASTLAWYER

First step is in getting all of these folks who are against Trump to register.

Republicans are registering at vastly higher rates than Democrats.

Once again, here's looking at you millenials and gen z. Time to put your big boy pants on and save us from another 4 years of disastrous "leadership."

#54 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-07-16 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"First step is in getting all of these folks who are against Trump to register.
Republicans are registering at vastly higher rates than Democrats."

I agree, and while California is reliably anti-Trump it is the swing states that need to be focused on. One bit of good news is that by all accounts the Biden campaign is focusing on those states as opposed to Clinton, who spent much of her time before the election doing premature victory laps in solidly Blue states.

#55 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2020-07-16 04:01 PM | Reply

After Election Day, when this long national nightmare is over, FoxNews can get back to doing what it does best. Clamoring for more investigations into Benghazi.

#56 | Posted by moder8 at 2020-07-16 06:45 PM | Reply

"The second batch of stimulus checks will only go to my supporters."

Listen to this. We left the US in 2018 minus our daughter who stayed until June 2019. We still have a bank account but Green Card has not been renewed. What did we get in the account? 2900 USD and a letter signed by Trump sent to our European address. Are you f**king kidding me. Whose controlling this? Anyway, thanks Trumpy.

#57 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2020-07-17 05:09 PM | Reply

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