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Monday, August 03, 2020

Judge Esther Salas speaks for the first time since a gunman came to her home, killing her son and wounding her husband: "Making preparations to bury our only child -- Daniel. My family has experienced a pain that no one should ever have to endure ... We may not be able to stop something like this from happening again but we can make it hard, for those who target us, to track us down ... My son's death cannot be in vain. Which is why I am begging those, empowered to do something, to help my brothers and sisters on the bench. Now, more than ever we need to identify a solution that keeps the lives of federal judges private."

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Don't know why, but I saw that headline and thought it was going to be a story about parents stuck at home with their kids because of COVID.

#1 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-08-03 11:06 AM | Reply

Small price to pay for the right of the killer to have guns.

Guns keep us safe.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-03 12:06 PM | Reply

Coincidences take a lot of planning.

#3 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-08-03 12:30 PM | Reply

"Guns keep us safe"

Guns have been allowed in this country for over 200 years and have proven many times over they keep us safe, just as much as they have proven to be tools for murder. What you are doing is applying faulty cause-and-effect logic because you refuse to believe anything but your own opinion. Nothing changed to guns that made them more wanting to kill. Guns haven't become more available to the population on a respective basis.

The cause of guns keeping us safe hasn't really changed at all. People need protection, someone is in danger (or the whole country is in case of war), they pull a gun and the effect is that they protected themselves.
The cause of guns being used to kill is similar. Someone wanted to kill someone so they use a gun, and the effect is they murder.

None of that has really changed since guns were made legal. So what did change? This is where you have to be objective and look at all of the points and figure out the biggest causes instead of being a partisan parrot and say "gun are bad, m'kay" just because you refuse to believe any other facts in front of you. Some of the causes are Liberal (trophy generation, protecting the criminal more than the victim, etc.) and some are Conservative (wealth distribution has gotten worse, race issues, etc.). But we won't find a true answer to the problem because neither side will ever accept that there are reasons beyond your opinion why something is the way it is. So Cons come up with answers to the causes about Liberals topics and refuse to do anything about the Conservative problems, and vice-versa. Basically, it's the same American 21st-century story we have with a lot of issues. It's a big reason why there is doubt this empire will last to the 22nd century or later.

#4 | Posted by humtake at 2020-08-03 12:49 PM | Reply

Small price to pay for the right of the killer to have guns.

Guns keep us safe.
#2 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2020-08-03 12:06 PM

Snoofy so who should be able to own guns then? Should farmers and ranchers? Only military and law enforcement? What about hunters? I got my first rifle at 13 and haven't killed anyone btw.

#5 | Posted by byrdman at 2020-08-03 12:57 PM | Reply

"Snoofy so who should be able to own guns then?"

People who can demonstrate they responsible and that they are not a threat to others.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-03 01:01 PM | Reply

"Small price to pay for the right of the killer to have guns. Guns keep us safe."

She was actually making the argument that the privacy of Federal Judges should be protected.

Given your position on other Federal Employees who had been spending quite a bit of time in Portland recently, I have to believe that you and many others on the left can't possibly believe that a federal official should have any right to privacy or the protection of personal information. How else are the riot mobs (or lone gunmen) going to know who to harass?

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-03 01:03 PM | Reply

"People who can demonstrate they responsible and that they are not a threat to others."

Is that what it says in the second amendment?

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people who demonstrate they are responsible and they are not a threat to others to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

#8 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-03 01:05 PM | Reply

"I got my first rifle at 13 and haven't killed anyone btw."

It would be wise to ban handguns completely. Barring that, make them harder to get than long guns. Barring that, something like 95% of homicides are committed with handguns.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-03 01:05 PM | Reply

"Is that what it says in the second amendment?"

I guess it depends on if you believe lawless violent thugs can be part of a well regulated militia.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-03 01:08 PM | Reply

"I guess it depends on if you believe lawless violent thugs can be part of a well regulated militia."

Like the mob in Portland?

#11 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-03 01:14 PM | Reply

And if you want to live in a country with strict regulations on gun control, then go to Mexico. You're just a few miles away as it is.

#12 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-03 01:15 PM | Reply

"Like the mob in Portland?"

You're the one saying it's better if the mob is armed, MadBomber.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-03 01:17 PM | Reply

"And if you want to live in a country with strict regulations on gun control"

That's not what I want.
I want gun control.
Not unenforced regulations.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-03 01:18 PM | Reply

Moar guns. Guns don't kill peeple,peeple kill
people. I can't face the world without my Gunz.I feel so naked and afraid.

The rest of the world does just fine without the second amendment.

But murica Is special,10,000+extra deaths a year special.

We really need MOAR GUNZ!

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2020-08-03 02:48 PM | Reply

You've got gun control. The regulations are enforced.

Guess who gets the ---- end of that stick.

#16 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-08-04 12:13 PM | Reply

Hint: They're not white.

#17 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-08-04 12:13 PM | Reply

"You've got gun control."

Nope.

We've got window dressing.

The Second Amendment makes gun control illegal.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-04 12:21 PM | Reply

"Guess who gets the ---- end of that stick.
Hint: They're not white."

Guess who dies from the firearm homicide at 2x the rate of whites.

Guess that's not so ------ to you.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-04 12:25 PM | Reply

It's the inner conservative in you. The gun control implemented isn't enough. We need to go all in, through an institutionally racist system that feeds the public and private prison industry.

#20 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-08-04 01:32 PM | Reply

"an institutionally racist system that feeds the public and private prison industry."

^
You just described the Second Amendment.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-04 04:35 PM | Reply

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