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Tuesday, August 04, 2020

[T]he risk evaluation is substantially more complex than that, since children can potentially spread the virus, even if they themselves do not experience symptoms. And those to whom they spread coronavirus, such as teachers and school support staff, may be at much higher risk of severe illness.

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...Some studies of the virus' spread early on in the COVID-19 pandemic suggested that children resisted infection, but that hasn't been seen in every study. Now, some new reports are complicating matters even further. Two studies show that children may actually carry higher levels of the virus than adults. And another one indicates that the virus spread rapidly in a youth summer camp, an environment that may have some semblance to schools.

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While there are many factors that go into determining viral spread, the presence of the virus is an essential one. So a couple of groups has decided to look at how large a viral load children carry. One of these groups involved researchers who cooperated with people running testing centers in Germany, examining the 3,300 people who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 out of 78,000 tests the groups had run. This included the early days of the rising pandemic, as well as after falling rates of infection lowered the frequency of testing....


Full article is worth a read, imo.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2020-08-04 08:58 AM | Reply

Children don't spread it. They are a different species.

- Demented Donny.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-08-04 11:40 AM | Reply

Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
-Donald Trump from Shrek

#3 | Posted by Sycophant at 2020-08-04 01:50 PM | Reply

Incredible how everyone knows that children will catch pretty much every cold and flu that comes around, yet some people think kids are somehow immune to a virus that's even more contagious.

#4 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-08-04 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

TEACHERS' LIVES MATTER!

#5 | Posted by danni at 2020-08-04 02:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Still Confusion over How Much Children Spread CV - unfortunately, we will soon find out.

#6 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2020-08-04 03:10 PM | Reply

Risk from asymptomatic spreading was largely theoretical at the beginning and has been shown to be overblown. What has been proven is that the virus can be spread 1-2 before symptoms appears, similar to the common cold. The area under the curve is same whether this pandemic spread over a few months or years. The damage the economy worsens the longer this goes on.

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-08-04 03:39 PM | Reply

The one constant throughout the pandemic is that those who have pried to diminish the consequences of opening our economy too soon have been consistently wrong.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2020-08-04 03:56 PM | Reply

Risk from asymptomatic spreading was largely theoretical at the beginning and has been shown to be overblown. What has been proven is that the virus can be spread 1-2 before symptoms appears, similar to the common cold. The area under the curve is same whether this pandemic spread over a few months or years. The damage the economy worsens the longer this goes on.

#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR

Last numbers I saw from the CDC estimated contagiousness of asymptomatic individuals is 75% that of symptomatic patients and a roughly 50/50 split of asymptomatic/symptomatic.

Yah, sounds totally overblown to me.

I'd as for a link but I don't think Breitbart is a good source for medical information.

And what curve are you referring to exactly?

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2020-08-04 04:03 PM | Reply

There shouldn't be any confusion at all.

Children are perfectly capable of being infected, the virus replicates to similar levels as adults (higher in really young kids IIRC) and they're just as contagious as adults.

The entire topic is because of studies in areas with very low community spread (European studies) and an artifact of testing here in the US.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2020-08-04 04:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We're not contradicting each other. The area under the curve is the accumulated number of infections and indirectly deaths. We cannot hide forever, lacking a cure, or vaccine it will burn through the population.

#11 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-08-04 04:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"lacking a cure, or vaccine it will burn through the population."

^
You right-wingers are so stupid you can't tell the difference between a smoldering fire and a raging inferno.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-04 04:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The damage the economy worsens the longer this goes on.
#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Which just so happens to be something we can survive, should everyone get on the same page.

Too bad we don't have a leader in the WH capable of bringing everyone together. We all missed that boat months ago.

Unless people like VISITOR_ have an explanation of how teachers are expected to implement a hybrid distance learning, in-classroom learning model where students split into diverging schedules dependent upon parent choice, many of whom have never taught distance learning until March of this year, all the while performing decontaminating tasks on par of a restaurant, we should have ZERO expectations that schools will be safe or effective learning environments. Couple all that with continued, unknown risk of infection and spread, the risks simply too far outweigh the potential benefits. You have to keep in mind, at least as it relates to California, 25% of teachers and staff are aged 55+. A significant portion of that group should not be expected to return to a worksite. Which means that there needs to be a massive infusion of dollars into the public school system to hire more teachers, more staff, and provide more training pertaining to distance learning and proper decontaminating and PPE usage.

Cries about "THE ECONOMY" fall on deaf ears when you're not the one being asked to take on such a daunting task for such little compensation.

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-08-04 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The damage the economy worsens the longer this goes on.
#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Hey Visitor_
This is going to last another year, minimum.

"A pandemic will last 18 months or longer and could include multiple waves of illness."
US Government COVID-19 Response Plan

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-04 04:44 PM | Reply

The area under the curve is the accumulated number of infections and indirectly deaths. We cannot hide forever, lacking a cure, or vaccine it will burn through the population.

#11 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

While that is true, the time variable is a critical one.

I'd much rather catch it when hospitals have room for me if necessary than when they're at 110% capacity.

#15 | Posted by jpw at 2020-08-04 04:47 PM | Reply

Hey Visitor_
Why couldn't we be like South Korea?

South Korea
Total Cases: 14,423
New Cases: 34
Total Deaths: 301

United States
Total Cases: 4,901,395
New Cases: 37,479
Total Deaths: 159,853

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-04 04:47 PM | Reply

Me too. I'm reminded of a scene from Taxi where Louie is trying to determine an amount of money to ask from Jim's father.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2020-08-04 05:03 PM | Reply

It is simply crazy to send kids back to school during a pandemic. All the excuses for it seem to be based on idiotic acceptance of risk to children's and teachers' lives. The economy is not going to get better because you sacrifice childrens' lives, it will only get better when we actually have this virus under control, however long that takes. Pretending you can speed that up by putting more people at risk is not going to actually speed up the control of the virus. Too many Americans are infected with Trump syndrome which basically causes them, like him, to believe we can just wish the virus away. Visitor is one of them

#18 | Posted by danni at 2020-08-05 08:32 AM | Reply

"The economy is not going to get better because you sacrifice childrens' lives, it will only get better when we actually have this virus under control, however long that takes."

Sending the kids to school is just so the parents can't use the kids as an excuse to not go back to work themselves.

This is all to make it look like things are getting back to normal, even as the curve continues to rise and the bodies keep piling up.

And yes, it will certainly harm the economy when the parents of those kids get sick from the germs their kids bring home.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-05 01:25 PM | Reply

An entire classroom full of second graders in Georgia has been forced into quarantine after one classmate tested positive for the novel coronavirus.

Local news station WGCL reports that a student at the Sixes Elementary School in Cherokee County was diagnosed with COVID-19 just after they attended class on Monday, which was the first day back at school after summer break.

All 20 students who are in the class, as well as the students' teacher, will now be under quarantine for the next two weeks. Students will still receive instruction from the teacher over the internet.

Raw Story

#20 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2020-08-05 01:38 PM | Reply

What Other Nations Can Tell The U.S. About How to Safely Reopen Schools During the COVID-19 Pandemic

#21 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-08-06 08:54 AM | Reply

The damage the economy worsens the longer this goes on.

#7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Yeah.

All Thanks go to Trump.

This is the World According to Trump.

Hope you are enjoying the fruits of your labors.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-06 10:10 AM | Reply

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