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Saturday, August 08, 2020

The Russian government is supporting efforts to damage Joe Biden and boost President Trump, counterintelligence chief William Evanina said on Friday. The statement from Evanina also says that China"prefers" for Trump to lose re-election to Biden. The new, Friday afternoon statement fell short of outright stating that Moscow wants Trump re-elected for a second term, instead noting that the Kremlin "is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate" both Biden and "an anti-Russia establishment.'"

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The statement does name Ukrainian MP Andriy Derkach as an example of those "measures." Derkach, a graduate of Moscow's Felix Dzerzhinsky Higher School of State Security, has spent much of 2020 releasing what appear to be edited recordings of phone calls between Biden and Ukraine's president in 2016.

Derkach met with Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani in Kyiv in December 2019, giving him a packet of information about the Bidens.

Sens. Ron Johnson (R-WI) and Chuck Grassley (R-IA), who are running an investigation that drives at much of the same themes found in the Russian government-sponsored efforts to damage Biden, have denied that their probe has taken information from Derkach. The Ukrainian MP has said that he gave the senators information.

If/when Joe Biden wins the presidency and the Democrats gain control of both houses of Congress, after dealing with the coronavirus, one of their next priorities has to be the establishment of new laws making the receipt of and dissemination of foreign-provided disinformation both a criminal felony and an expellable offense for any member of Congress unless it's immediately reported to the FBI.

Trump's own handpicked DNI publicly announces that the Russians are providing kompromat in an effort to sully Joe Biden and diminish his public standing right before this year's presidential election. And elected Republican members of Congress are their conduit for doing so.

Farging disgusting.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-07 05:49 PM | Reply

Just when I was thinking about voting for him. Hummph.

#2 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-08-08 08:07 AM | Reply

Just when I was thinking about voting for him. Hummph.

Voting for who?

Trump's a traitor, and so are Ron Johnson, Chuck Grassley, Devin Nunes, Lindsey Graham, and Mick Mulvaney.

Biden's the target of lies and a smear campaign by the Russian Government. The Russian plan is right in front of your face. The ODNI has stated flately that Russia wants Trump to win, it's in their interest, and they are fully engaged in making that happen.

The Useful Idiots are doing Russia's business.

So who are you honestly going to vote for?

#3 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-08 08:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If you're Russia, you want the dumbest guy possible in office. That's Trump.

#4 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-08 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The Useful Idiots are doing China's business.

#3 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2020-08-08 08:31 AM | FLAG:

The Russian-Sino cold war is back on! Kind of sucks being a patsy though.

#5 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-08-08 08:51 AM | Reply

"Voting for who?"

Well let's see.
This thread is about Joe bitem and your fake news trying to lay the ground work if he loses.
A flimsy excuse is better than no excuse

#6 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-08-08 08:53 AM | Reply

Yeah. "Fake" News - as in exactly what's been reported, what's happened, and what's going on, what the ODNI is saying, what intelligence is saying, what happened before, including what Putin's flat out stated.

The only thing fake here is you even pretending you are considering Biden.

#7 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-08 09:28 AM | Reply

The Useful Idiots are doing China's business.

Let me see if I can break this down for you, so you can understand it.
You'd have a point IF China was supplying oppo to the Democrats.
You'd have a point IF you could point out someone equivalent to Derkach.
You'd' have a point IF there was an active campaign using information from China to destroy Trump.

But you have nothing so what you're doing is exactly what the Russians want. Now go sit in the corner with the other Useful Idiots.

#8 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-08 09:31 AM | Reply

#6 | Posted by phesterOBoyle

You're a stone-cold traitor, PHESTER. An insignificant man nonetheless doing his best to bring his country down.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2020-08-08 09:44 AM | Reply

Biden needs no help damaging Biden in the upcoming election. Just get him out of the bunker and talking that will be damaging enough. And when he's starts off with "come on man!" You know you got him ... Let the flailing begin

#10 | Posted by homerj at 2020-08-08 10:01 AM | Reply

#10 - and yet there are active Republican traitors doing just that. Perhaps you should get on the phone and call a few of them?

#11 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-08 10:30 AM | Reply

DNI Warns That Russia's Trying to Damage Biden in Election

You are funny.

#12 | Posted by Sniper at 2020-08-08 11:49 AM | Reply

Hey Snippy, sorry you don't like what Trump's own hand-picked DNI publicly released yesterday. Hard to label this the deep state when it's Trump's own appointee.

Statement by NCSC Director William Evanina: Election Threat Update for the American Public

*RUSSIA - We assess that Russia is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate former Vice President Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia "establishment." This is consistent with Moscow's public criticism of him when he was Vice President for his role in the Obama Administration's policies on Ukraine and its support for the anti-Putin opposition inside Russia. For example, pro-Russia Ukrainian parliamentarian Andriy Derkach is spreading claims about corruption - including through publicizing leaked phone calls - to undermine former Vice President Biden's candidacy and the Democratic Party. Some Kremlin-linked actors are also seeking to boost President Trump's candidacy on social media and Russian television.

I don't see anything funny about this.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-08 11:58 AM | Reply

But you have nothing

#8 | POSTED BY YAV AT 2020-08-08 09:31 AM | FLAG:

I'm just over here watching the emerging story. China and Iran trying to undermine Trump re-election while Russia looking to hurt Biden, top US intelligence official says.

Russia and China on opposing intelligence operation sides, have had low grade border wars in the past, and will be locked in a match over the resources thawing out in Siberia thanks to global warming. It's one of the worlds most dangerous emerging geo-political hot spots.

Pull your head of your hyper partisan ass and enjoy the show for once.

#14 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2020-08-08 12:46 PM | Reply

We are unable to protect our elections and our political process from the influence of foreign money.

A sensible nation would choose to forgo all money. Because money is fungible, and can readily be laundered, whoch makes it impossible to keep foreign money out.

But we are a Capitalist nation.

Our system puts the will of moneyed interests -- including foreign interests -- above the will of the American people.

Thanks, Capitalism!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-08 01:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You are funny.

#12 | POSTED BY SNIPER

But you are still funnier!

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-08 01:33 PM | Reply

You know you got him ... Let the flailing begin

#10 | POSTED BY HOMERJ

Come on man!

You know you got nothing and your candidate is losing it.

Bigly.

You can't defeat Biden. Biden is so powerful he can hurt Gawd. Think what a Gawd killer like Biden will do to a weakened Humpy Trumpy sitting on his crumbling wall.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-08 01:39 PM | Reply

"You're a stone-cold traitor, PHESTER. An insignificant man nonetheless doing his best to bring his country down.
#9 | POSTED BY ZED"

What's the matter zed? Afraid your mahn bitem is gonna lose? Must be cuz your raging hate is getting worse.

#18 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-08-08 01:49 PM | Reply

Must be cuz your raging hate is getting worse.

#18 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

I am glad you are so calm. Someone needs to stay calm in the leaky boat full of the "plague".

I have noticed it's really hard tho for compassionate people to stay calm while hundreds of thousands are dropping dead all around them.

They usually want to do something about it.

Unlike a deplorable person who would ignore it and even deny it was happening. Until it happened to them.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-08 02:01 PM | Reply

Must be cuz your raging hate is getting worse.
#18 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

Deplorables calling normal people "raging haters" is even funnier than that time a Deplorable ran over Heather Heyer.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-08 02:27 PM | Reply

Pull your head of your hyper partisan ass and enjoy the show for once.

Nothing you posted shows anything along the lines of what I layed out, or what the ODNI has stated, or what's been reported here in the U.S.

All I read is about the same thing that happens during every election. Even your cite regarding Russia was worthless.

I'm focused on the incredible level of intrusion, welcomed by, soliticed by, those that are comnpletely complicit with a foreign government to undermine the US election.

Pull your partisan head out of your ass and see the difference rather than trying your best to play "whatabouttheseguys!" You come across as grossly uninformed.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2020-08-08 02:54 PM | Reply

"Pull your partisan head out of your ass and see the difference rather than trying your best to play "whatabouttheseguys!" You come across as grossly uninformed.
#21 | POSTED BY YAV"

We'll see how that games goes if vacant Joe wins.
Ya but..ya but.. Trump! Waaa.
I can see it now.

#22 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2020-08-08 05:00 PM | Reply

If/when Joe Biden wins the presidency and the Democrats gain control of both houses of Congress, after dealing with the coronavirus, one of their next priorities has to be the establishment of new laws making the receipt of and dissemination of foreign-provided disinformation both a criminal felony and an expellable offense for any member of Congress unless it's immediately reported to the FBI.

I would agree that the top priority is dealing with the Corona virus. Hower, dealing with the receipt of and dissemination of foreign-provided disinformation can wait until just prior to the next election.

A much higher priority is to dilute the influence of states which tend to vote republican by 1) admitting DC and PR as states and 2) increasing the number of members of the HOR so that each member represents nearly the same number of people.

These two changes not only would likely increase the number of dems in the senate and HOR, it would also increase the number of electors that are likely to vote for the person that wins the popular vote for POTUS. This is because the number of electors each state receives is equal to the number of legislators each state sends to congress (HOR and Senate). Currently, small, rural states have an outsize influence, not only when it comes to legislative matters but also when it comes to electing the POTUS. These two changes would mitigate but not completely eliminate their outsize influence.

#23 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2020-08-09 07:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You guys know that the US does the same thing in foreign elections, right?

The reason Putin hated Clinton so much was because of her interference in the Russian elections in 2011.

Realpolitik at it's finest.

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-09 12:07 PM | Reply

"The reason Putin hated Clinton so much was because of her interference in the Russian elections in 2011."

What Russian election laws did Clinton break, then?

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-09 02:01 PM | Reply

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