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Friday, August 07, 2020

I thought it was just in my head but this article from January confirms my suspicions that for most white evangelicals opposition to abortion has become such a big deal to them that they have become completely blind to all other matters and in doing so are no longer Christian. This explains why they so blindly support Donald Trump and are slowly committing ideological suicide on his behalf.

Just as with fascism one can follow Donald Trump or Christ but not both.

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If they wanted to end abortion, all they have to do is mandate the pill for single women or buy the babies, say 100k each.
But they don't want to end abortions.

#1 | Posted by bored at 2020-08-07 06:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They just want the ability to control women's bodies that's all. They don't care about the unborn.

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-07 08:46 PM | Reply

The Bible doesn't even forbid abortion.
Ask Corky if you don't believe me.

This is just misogyny hiding behind Mother Mary's skirt.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-07 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"The Bible doesn't even forbid abortion."

Correctamundo!

"The quickening" isn't until around week 18-20. (Quickening was when the baby first moves, meaning the soul had entered the body)

And even then, there was no punishment for abortion; the only punishment was for folks who injured the pregnant woman, causing a miscarriage.

And the punishment? $$$.

#4 | Posted by Danforth at 2020-08-07 09:11 PM | Reply

Evangelicals aren't 'pro-life.' They're merely 'pro-birth.'

They still support Trump after a myriad of reasons over things he's done that run contrary to their professed 'moral values.' GOP: Party of God? Hardly.

And now that Trump's made the pandemic and mitigation measures - like simply wearing a mask - a political issue, tens of thousands of unnecessary losses of life have occurred, and an additional 70,000 will be lost by December if we don't all wear masks.

Yet they STILL support the Godless schmuck.

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-08-07 09:26 PM | Reply

"The Bible doesn't even forbid abortion."

The only thing the Bible says that can be interpreted to be about abortion is to recommend it if the woman is suspected of adultery.

Ordeal Of The Bitter Water

Abortion interpretation

Several commentaries on the Bible maintain that the ordeal is to be applied in the case of a woman who has become pregnant, allegedly by her lover.[13][30]

One reading is that the ordeal results in a prolapsed uterus if she is guilty.[31] Some interpretations of the ordeal describe the bitter potion as an abortifacient, which induces a purposeful abortion or miscarriage if the woman is pregnant with a child which her husband alleges is another man's. If the fetus aborts as a result of the ordeal, this presumably confirms her guilt of adultery, otherwise her innocence is presumed if the fetus does not abort.

en.wikipedia.org

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-08-07 09:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Between "Democrats are coming for your unborn babies!" and "Democrats are coming for your guns!"

The Republican Party continues it's stranglehold on conservative America.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2020-08-07 09:35 PM | Reply

Between "Democrats are coming for your unborn babies!" and "Democrats are coming for your guns!"

The Republican Party continues it's stranglehold on conservative America.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack

And now Biden is out to hurt the Bible and God! (LOL)

#8 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2020-08-08 01:37 AM | Reply

We've gone forth and multplied, we've fulfilled our obligation.

Not a big believer but wouldn't want to assume his thoughts.

#9 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-08 02:01 AM | Reply

Just as with fascism one can follow Donald Trump or Christ but not both.
This is a-historical nonsense. It's the sort of self-aggrandizing piffle that can only come from religious revisionism.

The catholic church celebrated Hitler's birthday from the pulpit. A compact with the Vatican was the first act of business for the Third Reich. Priest ratted out Jews that joined christian churches in the 20's and 30's so the could be rounded up and sent to the death camps.
Fascism, whether we are talking about Spain, Bavaria, Croatia, Salizarism, Mussolini, whatever, where ever, is just another name for the political activity of the catholic right wing.
More than half of the Waffen SS were confessing cathloics. Exactly one nazi was excommunicated; Goebbels, for the sin of marrying a protestant.

It is laughably easy to "follow Christ" and attach any political ideology you want to his intentionally vague, meaningless, Bronze Age drivel.

#10 | Posted by BluSky at 2020-08-08 04:12 AM | Reply

"And even then, there was no punishment for abortion; the only punishment was for folks who injured the pregnant woman, causing a miscarriage."

Isn't there a rule against spilling your seed in the Bible?

Whatever you do don't let them women spill the seed.

Gawd said so.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-08 05:48 AM | Reply

And definitely don't put two kinds of seeds in one hole.

That is an abomination.

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-08 05:50 AM | Reply

And God said "thought we worked this out in the 30 years war"

And by the way Constantine the,sabbath is from Friday night until Saturday night you sun god worshipper.

#13 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-08 05:59 AM | Reply

Every time I spill my seed it's an abomi nation, best part actually.

#14 | Posted by bruceaz at 2020-08-08 06:08 AM | Reply

Anyone who's had sexual intercorse knows full well that some "seed" spills out. It would therefore seem ridiculous a creator god would judge, or admonish it's creation for that god's own design flaw.

Perhaps god should have consulted with Dyson first.

Concerning the female biology and other god prohibited acts, how about the fact god chose to locate two holes inches apart. Is this the design of any intelligence? That design seems intelligent only if it serves as a matter of convenience for dual use!

It's all ridiculous absurdity.

#15 | Posted by LiquidCake at 2020-08-08 12:40 PM | Reply

- Ask Corky if you don't believe me.

My old pastor used to say that if men could have abortions, they would have been legalized 5,000 years ago.

#16 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-08 07:28 PM | Reply

#16

I like this Catholic version a little better.

If men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.

#17 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-08 07:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

lol

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-08 08:54 PM | Reply

"This is a-historical nonsense."

Actually I was paraphrasing the findings of the OSS and wouldn't you know it? That's what they determined regarding attempts to combine Christianity and fascism.

#19 | Posted by Tor at 2020-08-09 11:12 AM | Reply

the findings of the OSS
Are you referring to the Donovan/Cornell files? General Donavan, Nuremberg prosecutor, staunch right wing catholic, that Donovan?
I prefer to get history from historians rather than ------. Different strokes....

You dont see OSS being bandied about much these days as reference material. Operation Paperclip sorta ended whatever credibility they had left.

Feel free to break out the ONI, OSS, SiS, BCRA, if you stoop low enough I'll bet their is a white paper from the KGB you can use. But you will still have all your work ahead of you to prove one can not be a Nazi and a christian. We know without a shadow of a doubt there were/are Nazis who are practicing christians. The best you can do is claim the power to decide who is a "real" christian (whatever the hell that is) and who isn't. It wouldn't be the first time you've attempted to wield that particular magic wand.

#20 | Posted by BluSky at 2020-08-10 01:46 AM | Reply

Cheating on your wife = ok
Cheating your business partners = ok
Lying = ok
Locking kids in cages = ok
Taking health care away from children = ok
Taking food away from children = ok
Just don't harm that fetus.

#21 | Posted by Nixon at 2020-08-10 06:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Operation Paperclip didn't damage their credibility in the slightest and you should be grateful America made damn sure that the Soviets didn't beat us to the Moon.

#22 | Posted by Tor at 2020-08-10 04:06 PM | Reply

you should be grateful

...some say our attitude should be one of gratitude, like the widows and cripples of old London town who owe their large pensions to Werner Von Braun...

You be grateful, I would have preferred we trade Gemini and Apollo for the chance to strap Von Braun to one of his V2s and watch it go boom. But that's just me, I think the best Nazis are dead Nazis, you have other priorities and that's on you.

#23 | Posted by BluSky at 2020-08-10 05:19 PM | Reply

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