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Wednesday, August 12, 2020

Marjorie Taylor Greene, a businesswoman who has expressed racist views and support for the far-right conspiracy theory QAnon, has won the Republican nomination for Georgia's 14th congressional district.

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I see your true colors shining through

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2020-08-12 08:48 AM | Reply

This is why biden is a deluded fool for thinking getting rid of trump will return america to "normal". We need a full on multi decade war on trumpism, the way fox news waged a full on multi decade war against truth and decency.

#2 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-12 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Someone called Peta her campaign is about to be vivisected.

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2020-08-12 02:59 PM | Reply

- biden is a deluded fool

Was that from a Trump tweet?

Sure could have been.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-12 03:12 PM | Reply

And Trump has already come out in support of Ms. QAnon saying that she represents the future of the Republican party.

Trump Applauds Racist QAnon Supporter For Georgia GOP Congressional Win

www.huffpost.com

OCU

#5 | Posted by OCUser at 2020-08-12 03:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- biden is a deluded fool

Was that from a Trump tweet?

Sure could have been.

#4 | Posted by Corky

No that's from an objective person with a brain.

Tell me cork, do you think everything will go back to normal after trump is gone, like biden does?

#6 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-12 03:28 PM | Reply

she represents the future of the Republican party.
#5 | Posted by OCUser

It certainly looks like she does exactly that. We can just hope she doesn't represent the future of the whole country.

#7 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2020-08-12 03:31 PM | Reply

Given the composition of her district, she appears to be a shoo-in for the seat. On a serious note, I cannot think of a single congressional committee on which it would be appropriate for this person to sit.

A political party should be in the business of vetting candidates, to ensure that candidates match the needs and demands of the party, because if elected they personify the party. The GOP is telling the worst story possible about itself with this person so close to power.

The GOP leadership in this country is delivering flaming bags of ------- to its own front porch on a regular basis when it lets people like this in its tent. And people like this are bringing with them the deplorables, as HRC pointed out four years ago...

#8 | Posted by catdog at 2020-08-12 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Tell me cork, do you think everything will go back to normal after trump is gone, like biden does?

#6 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

People like Corky only care that Team Blue wins. They and Team Blue spend very little time thinking beyond election day to solutions for our nation, or the worlds most pressing issues.

But hey, at least Team Blue is likely to do less harm than Team Red.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2020-08-12 04:19 PM | Reply

- But hey, at least Team Blue is likely to do less harm than Team Red.

Team Far Left could help re-elect Trump while busy dissing Biden to sooth their hurt feelings that the voters didn't agree with their personal preferences.

They didn't agree with mine, either, but like Bernie, Liz, and AOC.... and most other liberals, I'm not going to spend my time sounding like a Trump tweet.

Biden/Harris 2020!

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-12 06:27 PM | Reply

Team Far Left could help re-elect Trump while busy dissing Biden to sooth their hurt feelings that the voters didn't agree with their personal preferences.

#10 | Posted by Corky

Team sellout left could help elect president matt gaetz in 4 years

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-12 08:13 PM | Reply

You know if Republicans are so deeply into sadomasochism in based on who all they nominated they clearly are why don't they just hire me to come over to their house with some whips and handcuffs rather than get children involved in the whole thing? And yes children are made to suffer when stupid people are elected.

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2020-08-12 09:01 PM | Reply

You know if Republicans are so deeply into sadomasochism in based on who all they nominated they clearly are why don't they just hire me to come over to their house with some whips and handcuffs rather than get children involved in the whole thing? And yes children are made to suffer when stupid people are elected.

#12 | Posted by Tor

That's not their goal. Their goal is to make the people they feel inferior to suffer. If that means they need to harm their own lives to make their enemies suffer, they're fine with that. Owning the libs is all that matters, even if they need to join the cult of a con man and burn down their own house or infect their parents with covid.

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-12 09:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Sad...

#14 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2020-08-12 11:22 PM | Reply

...another racist loony on the Right (Reich)...

no way Trump wins in a fair fight,
which I guess is the reason Republicans
are CHEATING LIKE HELL!
don't let them win again America...
not if you value little things like,
Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
Food Stamps, Social Justice, the Post Office,
or Liberty (other than for guns)...
America is much better/stronger/wiser,
without solely white conservative men in charge.

(p.s. I'm a white man, so I feel
fairly righteous in saying that ---)...

#15 | Posted by earthmuse at 2020-08-13 07:23 AM | Reply

Team Far Left could help re-elect Trump while busy dissing Biden to sooth their hurt feelings that the voters didn't agree with their personal preferences.
They didn't agree with mine, either, but like Bernie, Liz, and AOC.... and most other liberals, I'm not going to spend my time sounding like a Trump tweet.
Biden/Harris 2020!

#10 | POSTED BY CORKY

His statement was dead on.

What we call Trumpism will be back and worse than ever after a Biden win. GOP loses have only made the party move further and further right and without a population level movement against this sort of dead eyed, idiotic nonsense it will give us somebody worse than Donald Trump in 2024 or 2028.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2020-08-13 10:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"People like Corky only care that Team Blue wins. "

People like Corky are right. The only thing that matters right now is defeating Trumpism and getting evil Trumpy out of the White House.

Then we obviously have a lot of work to do to clean up his messes and sterilze the White House and purge him from the system and THEN maybe we can get things done. But none of it matters if trump holds the White House.

The cure to the Trumpy Virus and pretty much everything is removing that cancer from the White House folks. It's pretty obvious.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-13 10:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

17 cont

Of course don't forget. We will need the Senate!

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2020-08-13 10:42 AM | Reply

People like Corky are right. The only thing that matters right now is defeating Trumpism and getting evil Trumpy out of the White House.

Then we obviously have a lot of work to do to clean up his messes and sterilze the White House and purge him from the system and THEN maybe we can get things done. But none of it matters if trump holds the White House.

The cure to the Trumpy Virus and pretty much everything is removing that cancer from the White House folks. It's pretty obvious.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy

WRONG. Trumpism was around before trump was elected. Trumpism started decades ago and slowly built steam, limbaugh spread it in the 90s and then fox news brought it into the mainstream. Defeating trump will IN NO WAY stop trumpism. You're just as deluded as biden if you beleive that. THis Qanon moron proves it. Get ready for president matt gaetz if you think trumpism will die with trump.

The way to defeat trumpism - FAKE populism - is with REAL populism, something the left refuses to adopt, which is why the left has been losing for so long, and why trump got elected in the first place.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 01:16 PM | Reply

- REAL populism, something the left refuses to adopt

Perhaps you can whine voters into coming around to your point of view.... fine, do it during the primaries.

But if and when you don't get your way, stop dumping on the only candidate standing between us and another Trump term.

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-13 05:15 PM | Reply

Perhaps you can whine voters into coming around to your point of view....

#20 | Posted by Corky

Why not? That's been your strategy since 2016, whining that liberals need to just sellout like your preferred candidates do.

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 05:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21AMEN Honey AMEN

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-13 05:34 PM | Reply

Well I guess I was right that part of politics is a beauty contest.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2020-08-13 05:36 PM | Reply

"REAL populism, something the left refuses to adopt"

Obama???

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 06:36 PM | Reply

"REAL populism, something the left refuses to adopt"

Obama???

#24 | Posted by snoofy

Yeah. Remember the guy who was elected right after the bankers had destroyed the economy who let them all waltz away with barely a slap on the wrist? The guy who made many voters think that dems won't fight against the corrupt elites any more than repubs will so why not just vote for a true outsider like trump?

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 07:35 PM | Reply

Also the same guy who squandered a once-in-a-century chance to fix our healthcare system by enshrining his useless corporate middleman insurance industry donors at the center of it. What's populist about that?

Obama ran like a populist, then betrayed his voters and governed as a sellout. Which is why trump got elected.

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 07:40 PM | Reply

"The guy who made many voters think that dems won't fight against the corrupt elites any more than repubs will so why not just vote for a true outsider like trump?"

You're talking about yourself.
It sure doesn't seem like you are happy with your vote for Trump, so, what exactly is it you think you're complaining about?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:03 PM | Reply

Do you even know what populism is?

Trump ran as a populist.
That's why you thought he would be good.

Obama ran as a populist too.
That's why you thought he would be good too.

Notice anything?

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:06 PM | Reply

You're talking about yourself.
It sure doesn't seem like you are happy with your vote for Trump, so, what exactly is it you think you're complaining about?

#27 | Posted by snoofy

I didn't vote for trump.

I'm talking about obama->trump voters. You should google them.

The left can either start pursuing populism or they can just let repubs continue to win and slowly ruin the country. That campaign cash must really be delicious since they're apparently willing to ruin the future in order to get it.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:07 PM | Reply

Populism exists to sucker in voters like you, and then when you don't get what you wanted, you blame "The System" instead of your own inability to see past the flag-waving.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:07 PM | Reply

Do you even know what populism is?

Trump ran as a populist.
That's why you thought he would be good.

Obama ran as a populist too.
That's why you thought he would be good too.

Notice anything?

#28 | Posted by snoofy

I knew trump would be horrible because he's a liar. But he won because he ran as a populist, and worked hard to make his voters think he IS a populist.

Just like obama ran as a populist and won, except then obama said SIKE! to his voters and let the bankers and insurance companies do whatever they want.

What's populist about letting bankers ruin the economy without punishment?

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:09 PM | Reply

What's populist about staying in the mideast after we killed bin laden?

He could have brought the troops home and made dems look like the anti war alternative. Instead he gave that mantle to trump.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:10 PM | Reply

Perhaps you'll recall that Americans essentially demanded Obama wear a flag lapel pin.

How about you, are you going to be voting for someone with an American flag lapel pin this time?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:10 PM | Reply

"What's populist about staying in the mideast after we killed bin laden?"

Question makes no sense.
Populism isn't a policy.
It's a marketing ploy.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:11 PM | Reply

"What's populist about letting bankers ruin the economy without punishment?"

Dow 30,000 is great marketing material.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:11 PM | Reply

"He could have brought the troops home and made dems look like the anti war alternative."

And made the dems look weak on terrorism, you mean.
Now there's a popular idea, sure to win: Weak on terrorism!

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:14 PM | Reply

"I'm talking about obama->trump voters. You should google them."

Well, both are populists, so if you don't much follow politics, which is who populism appeals to, it's pretty easy to figure it out.
They thought Obama was a breath of fresh air. They thought Trump would be too. They're not what you'd call politically engaged.

Then you've got those seemingly liberal people can't bring themselves to vote for a woman.
Those are the ones that turned out bigtime for Bernie in 2016, but not so much in 2020 when Bernie's main opponent was a man.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:18 PM | Reply

"What's populist about letting bankers ruin the economy without punishment?"

Moving on, not living in the past, not dwelling on mistakes. Focusing on building a brighter future.
Nearly anything can be repackaged in a populist fashion.

What's populist about blaming immigrants for society's problems without any basis in fact?
Plenty, if done right.
It was Andrea, a mattress's rallying cry for the past four years, if not longer.

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 08:24 PM | Reply

We liberals and progressives are tired of being ignored. Obama betrayed us and Biden is ignoring us. He may play lip service to our plight but when push comes to shove he has already assured the Billionaire class that nothing will fundamentally will change under his leadership. That says it all right there.

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-13 08:26 PM | Reply

Question makes no sense.
Populism isn't a policy.
It's a marketing ploy.

#34 | Posted by snoofy

Horsecrap. Populism is acting in the interests of the common populace instead of the elite class who usually control things. It's a radical concept to those who've pathetically accepted that selling out is normal.

#40 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:47 PM | Reply

"What's populist about letting bankers ruin the economy without punishment?"

Dow 30,000 is great marketing material.

#35 | Posted by snoofy

Not to the half of americans who aren't in the stock market. They hear DOW 30000 and they get angry that their lives are excluded from the prosperity and are willing to vote for anyone who seems like they'll re balance the scales in their favor.

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Moving on, not living in the past, not dwelling on mistakes. Focusing on building a brighter future.
Nearly anything can be repackaged in a populist fashion.

What's populist about blaming immigrants for society's problems without any basis in fact?
Plenty, if done right.
It was Andrea, a mattress's rallying cry for the past four years, if not longer.

#38 | Posted by snoofy

Prosecuting criminal bankers isn't "living in the past" it's protecting the working class from future banker crimes, but obama could do that because he was too busy selling out for campaign cash.

And it IS populist to tell the working class that it's not fair that they should have to compete with underpaid illegal labor, which favors big businesses, and that populism got trump elected.

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

*obama COULDNT do that

#43 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 08:52 PM | Reply

"Populism is acting in the interests of the common populace instead of the elite class who usually control things."

Sounds good, but that's incompatible with Capitalism, and we're a Capitalist country.

YOU SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS OUT BY NOW.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- But he won because he ran as a populist

He' still in that freaky dream sequence where rwing populists and lwing populists are the same thing, so all one has to do is run as a populist.

We are supposed to not only ignore that those two things are not the same, but that Bernie has now lost twice... running as a populist.

Of course, he once again refuses to address the salient point made; that after the primary is over, demonizing the more progressive candidate, or anyone running against Trump, is counter-productive to what's best for the country.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-13 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"We liberals and progressives are tired of being ignored."

I'm just as liberal and progressive as you, Laura.

You're not special.

If you don't like being ignored, then vote for Trump and be persecuted.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:07 PM | Reply

- tired of being ignored.

So you are willing to have the country suffer more Trump if you don't get the adoration you feel you so justly deserve.

The suffering masses thank you for your conceit.

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-13 09:08 PM | Reply

He' still in that freaky dream sequence where rwing populists and lwing populists are the same thing, so all one has to do is run as a populist.

We are supposed to not only ignore that those two things are not the same, but that Bernie has now lost twice... running as a populist.

Of course, he once again refuses to address the salient point made; that after the primary is over, demonizing the more progressive candidate, or anyone running against Trump, is counter-productive to what's best for the country.

#45 | Posted by Corky

You're still that freaky dream where there aren't any voters who are sick of both parties and just want someone to fight back against the elites for them.

#48 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Populism is acting in the interests of the common populace instead of the elite class who usually control things."

Sounds good, but that's incompatible with Capitalism, and we're a Capitalist country.

YOU SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS OUT BY NOW.

#44 | Posted by snoofy

Wow you'd make a great fox news anchor.

Since when did capitalism mean businesses should be able to bribe the government to do whatever they want at the expense of the populace?

#49 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:10 PM | Reply

"Prosecuting criminal bankers isn't "living in the past" it's protecting the working class from future banker crimes, but obama could do that because he was too busy selling out for campaign cash."

^
Oh my sweet summer child.

Future banker crimes are guaranteed every time a Republican gets elected President.

Prosecuting bankers won't end it, just like prosecuting Charlie Manson didn't end all murders.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:10 PM | Reply

"Since when did capitalism mean businesses should be able to bribe the government to do whatever they want at the expense of the populace?"

It's always meant that.
What you describe makes good business sense.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:12 PM | Reply

- there aren't any voters

Obviously there aren't enough... but instead of trying to create more during the primary, you are willing to tear down the only person who now stands between us and Trump.... which point you are still hiding from.

You aren't MR LEFTIST around here; your views on moneyed elitism is no different than most of our's... you just want to whine about the reality that voters are not yet caught up with us.

Grow up.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2020-08-13 09:14 PM | Reply

sick of both parties and just want someone to fight back against the elites for them.
#48 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Man up and fight your own fights.
Jeez.
You're putty in the right (wrong) person's hands.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:14 PM | Reply

You know I'm totally sick of both parties. They don't represent me nor do they care about us. Snoofy uses the stock market as the best barometer of a country's wealth health. He's wrong. Take the stock of 500 of the average elderly person's pantry's and the stock in their iceboxes and then get back to me. The wealthy don't count. They will always have theirs.

#54 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-13 09:42 PM | Reply

You're putty in the right (wrong) person's hands.

#53 | Posted by snoofy

Says the guy who's defending the bankers' ability to buy off the government.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:45 PM | Reply

Here's a perfect summation of both Laura and Speaks, taken from David Brooks' column tonight. I don't often agree with Brooks, but what he says here makes all the sense in the world.

Radicals are good at opening our eyes to social problems and expanding the realm of what's sayable.

But if you look at who actually leads change over the course of American history, it's not the radicals. At a certain point, radicals give way to the more prudent and moderate wings of their coalitions.

Radicals are not good at producing change because while they are good at shaking up the culture, they don't have practical strategies to pass legislation when you have to get the support of 50 percent plus one.

They also tend to divide the world into good people and bad people. They think they can bring change if they can destroy enough bad people, and so they devolve into a purist, destructive force that offends potential allies. [Purotopians!!!]

The people who come in their wake and actually make change are conservative radicals. They believe in many of the radicals' goals, but know how to work within the democratic framework to achieve them.

#56 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-13 09:47 PM | Reply

Obviously there aren't enough... but instead of trying to create more during the primary, you are willing to tear down the only person who now stands between us and Trump.... which point you are still hiding from.

You aren't MR LEFTIST around here; your views on moneyed elitism is no different than most of our's... you just want to whine about the reality that voters are not yet caught up with us.

Grow up.

#52 | Posted by Corky

There aren't enough anti elite voters to make a difference? You realize the last few horrible republicans have been elected by razor thin margins don't you?

When you say GROW UP you mean JUST SELL OUT AND EAT WHAT THEY GIVE YOU.

#57 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:47 PM | Reply

"Snoofy uses the stock market as the best barometer of a country's wealth health."

It's the one piece of economic news Americans hear.

Every. Single. Day.

And, while the ups may not be good for most of us you, everyone knows the downs are bad for everyone.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:48 PM | Reply

Future banker crimes are guaranteed every time a Republican gets elected President.

Prosecuting bankers won't end it, just like prosecuting Charlie Manson didn't end all murders.

#50 | Posted by snoofy

Bush AND obama both let the bankers off the hook for crashing the economy. But only one of them was elected to fight the bankers and sold out instead.

#59 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:48 PM | Reply

But if you look at who actually leads change over the course of American history, it's not the radicals. At a certain point, radicals give way to the more prudent and moderate wings of their coalitions.

#56 | Posted by tonyroma

Written as if the past 4 years never happened.

#60 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:49 PM | Reply

EAT WHAT THEY GIVE YOU.
#57 | POSTED BYSPEAKSOFTLY

Instead, you choose to starve in anger.

Your ship isn't coming in.

There will be no white knight riding into Washington, D.C. on a horse, to cure all the nation's ills.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 09:50 PM | Reply

FDR Called Tony' He says you're full of caca.

#62 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-13 09:54 PM | Reply

There will be no white knight riding into Washington, D.C. on a horse, to cure all the nation's ills.

#61 | Posted by snoofy

Not if dems follow the sellout path they've been on for decades.

When we have 2 sellout plutocrat parties, you're correct.

#63 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 09:55 PM | Reply

Written as if the past 4 years never happened.

Pendulums swing Speaks, they don't stay in place. You are ignorant of history. Unless you have 50% plus one, you get nothing from any form of democratic government on the planet. And when the pendulum is far off in one direction, no one can make it immediately jump to the other.

Read the article, it's a recitation of American history as it happened, not as it's imagined to be. Change cannot happen until you get the majority to go along with whatever you want. Putting your faith in the system is foolish. The system doesn't change, the people in it do. So get out there and find ones who agree with you and get them elected. Anything else isn't going to get you anything but ignored.

#64 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-13 09:57 PM | Reply

"Not if dems follow the sellout path they've been on for decades."

Fundamental attribution error.

Capitalism is the sellout path.

Other nations don't have this problem nearly so bad because they don't allow money in politics.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 10:08 PM | Reply

"Not to the half of americans who aren't in the stock market. They hear DOW 30000 and they get angry that their lives are excluded from the prosperity and are willing to vote for anyone who seems like they'll re balance the scales in their favor."

they get angry?

do you get angry?

#66 | Posted by eberly at 2020-08-13 10:10 PM | Reply

FDR Called Tony

Did he live under a different Constitution? Of course not. He needed 50% plus one and he had a majority on his side - two of the very points I was trying to make!

Like FDR, you can't do ---- unless you have a majority. And the only way to get one of those is one elected person at a time.

#67 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-13 10:34 PM | Reply

It took FDR to get schhit done. You have to have a president willing to utilize the bully pulpit to get congress to go your way. You don't get that if you're a sell out like the others or do you not understand that???

#68 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-13 10:38 PM | Reply

billmoyers.com

For Tony.

#69 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2020-08-13 10:50 PM | Reply

Other nations don't have this problem nearly so bad because they don't allow money in politics.

#65 | Posted by snoofy

Well then maybe you should start voting for people who see money in politics as a problem instead of "just the way the games is played"

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 11:22 PM | Reply

Change cannot happen until you get the majority to go along with whatever you want. Putting your faith in the system is foolish. The system doesn't change, the people in it do. So get out there and find ones who agree with you and get them elected. Anything else isn't going to get you anything but ignored.

#64 | Posted by tonyroma

That's the point. You get the majority by proving to the people that you'll fight for them instead of for big money donors.

When the people think they're choosing between left puppets or right puppets, they choose someone like trump.

#71 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2020-08-13 11:23 PM | Reply

"You have to have a president willing to utilize the bully pulpit to get congress to go your way."

Republicans were never going to go along with Obama.

Never.

And FDR didn't get everything he wanted either.

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 11:33 PM | Reply

Well then maybe you should start voting for people who see money in politics as a problem instead of "just the way the games is played"
#70 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

It's not up for a vote.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-13 11:35 PM | Reply

Other nations don't have this problem nearly so bad because they don't allow money in politics.

#65 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I see this change happening the way any other change has happened.

A state needs to pass the anti citizens united law.

Then another.

Then a few more.

When enough of them do -- historically speaking, 17 seems to be about right -- we can get a national law passed saying corporations are not people and unlimited campaign contributions from them is not speech.

The lads praying for cult leaders who will ascend to office with the help of "speech" from such "people" can't and won't fix it sure are funny.

#74 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2020-08-14 12:12 AM | Reply

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