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Friday, August 14, 2020

As Democrats and Republicans prepare for their party conventions, a new national survey finds high voter engagement with the presidential campaign -- and a record share saying it "really matters" who wins in November when it comes to making progress on important national issues. Currently, 83% of registered voters say it really matters who wins the presidency, up from 74% four years ago and the highest share saying this in two decades of Pew Research Center surveys.

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After 3 years of Trump, not only are partisan differences more vivid than ever, it's also impossible to deny that the particular individual occupying the Oval Office can change all of our lives.

But what you don't hear is almost anyone saying " ... and that's why I'll never vote for this ticket." When Noam Chomsky and Angela Davis are telling people how important it is to vote for the Democratic nominee, you know you're in an unusual year.

In 2016, Green Party nominee Jill Stein got 1.4 million votes and a good deal of media attention. Chances are you don't even know the name of the Green Party's nominee this year (it's Howie Hawkins), and it would be a shock if he got that much support.

The truth, however, is that Trump should be far more worried about the Republicans who have not been cheering him unreservedly for the past 3 years. In 2016, they may have been less than enthusiastic about Trump, but they stuck with him in the end; according to exit polls, he got about the same level of support from Republican voters as Mitt Romney or John McCain had.

Four years later, their loyalty is less certain. Everything that might have given them pause back then has turned out to be even worse than anyone imagined. And yet instead of trying to keep them in the Republican fold, Trump is spending his time calling in to Fox News for interviews, spreading a new iteration of the racist "birther" theory (this time about Harris), and telling "suburban housewives" that he'll protect them from the threat of the 1968 Fair Housing Act.

Over the next 80 days, Trump will no doubt make it even more clear what the consequences of his reelection would be -- and not in a good way. He can't help himself, and that may be his undoing.

Paul Waldman

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-14 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump won non-college graduates by a 51-to-44 percent margin in 2016; in the latest NPR-PBS NewsHour-Marist poll, he trails 46 to 48 percent among this group. Trump won White non-college graduates by a 66-to-29 percent margin four years ago; today, his lead has shrunk to 55 to 40.

Trump won White college graduates by a 48-to-45 margin; in the new poll, he now trails Democrat Joe Biden 40 percent to 57 percent. In 2016, among all women, Trump lost 54 to 41 percent; that is now 59/35. Trump lost White female college graduates 44 to 51 percent; that is now 37 to 59 percent. White non-college-educated women went for Trump by a 61-to-34 percent margin in 2016; that lead is down to 52/43.

Trump's support from White men is also dropping. Among White men without college degrees, he has gone from 71/23 to 58/37; among White men with college degrees, Trump went from up 53/39 over Hillary Clinton to down 43/54 to Biden.

And here is the shocker: His 20-point advantage among White voters (57/37) has disappeared (48/48).

www.washingtonpost.com

Nobody's spiking the ball in the end zone. It's simply reporting what today's snapshot says about voter's preferences on August 14, not how they'll tally on Election Day.

But I still ask the question as to what people think is going to sway voters back into Trump's direction based on everything that he does and says on a daily basis while more and more people become infected and die while he pats himself on the back for his covid response?

And now his stooge is undermining the US Postal Service and needlessly delaying everyone's daily mail delivery to serve his own electoral ambitions. I'm sure this will make him more popular, right?

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-14 04:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Time to bring down the Trump Crime Family

#3 | Posted by hamburglar at 2020-08-14 05:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In other words, 83% like democracy, freedom and their constitutional rights. The others just want guns. Funny, though for that 17%: the confiscation of their guns may be next, in a Trump second term...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2020-08-14 05:08 PM | Reply

But I still ask the question as to what people think is going to sway voters back into Trump's direction

Since polls don't accurately reflect the vote anymore for a number of reasons, your question is based on a faulty premise.

You actually believe that if people voted today, the results would mirror your polls. I think you're nuts.

You're right about it not being 2016 anymore: This time, Trump has the entire weight of the federal government behind his cheating apparatus.

#5 | Posted by JOE at 2020-08-14 05:38 PM | Reply

@#5,
Luckily he and his administration are grossly incompetent.
That's one of the main reasons he will still lose in a landslide.

#6 | Posted by a_monson at 2020-08-14 06:46 PM | Reply

9% difference in four years would normally be significant. But when that 9% will be eclipsed by the 15% of voters being suppressed, I'm afraid this metric is moot.

Here's for preparing for the worst while hoping for the best.

Fund the USPS.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-08-14 06:51 PM | Reply

And now his stooge is undermining the US Postal Service and needlessly delaying everyone's daily mail delivery to serve his own electoral ambitions. I'm sure this will make him more popular, right?
#2 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

Less popular, but when you're a fascist dictator, only the ballots counted determine your 'true' popularity. Voter suppression is his only option now, he knows it. And considering the potential legal consequences he will face if he does not have the protection of the executive office, he has immense interest in continuing to break the law to protect his and his family's future.

You think a cornered rat is going to offer you some cheese in exchange for his freedom? I wouldn't.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-08-14 06:55 PM | Reply

Rsty, Trump has screwed the pooch (from his perspective only) just like he has with everything else he put his feeble mind to. Chuck the Todd just teased that by every polling metric that's being tracked is showing that the overall electorate is more engaged in the presidential race RIGHT NOW than any measurements they normally see in the days approaching Election Day.

Everyone is seeing this now, 80 days from Nov. 3rd, and people and GOTV organizations everywhere know what the stakes are. People are going to register their votes come hell or high water to the point I predict we'll see the lowest in-person Election Day voting in history. Of course, covid was already driving this dynamic, and now that the postal service is corrupted, there will be systemic instructions everywhere for how to make sure your vote is both registered and counted.

America is watching what is happening and on top of the economic tumult, Trump's illegal machinations are already being rebuked by his own appointed judge in PA. And they will not be the only state calling the Postal Service on the legal carpet in the coming weeks. People that need IDs will find armies of volunteers ready to make sure that they get them. Whatever hoops are put up will get jumped through.

This nation has had all of Donald Trump it can stomach. His downfall will be both epic and a source of great joy once it's announced and I can't wait for that day, be it Nov. 3rd or sometime afterwards.

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-14 07:15 PM | Reply

Okay, which one of you jerks said it didn't matter?

#10 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2020-08-14 07:43 PM | Reply

His downfall will be both epic and a source of great joy once it's announced and I can't wait for that day, be it Nov. 3rd or sometime afterwards.
#9 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

I appreciate your optomism, but I cannot subscribe as of yet. Maybe in the immediate weeks following Nov. 3rd as they are counting the ballots and the results fit the narrative being set by current swing-state polling. I'm easily 90 days out of sharing your sense of optimism, but even then, I'm guessing (knowing me) I'll kick that optimism can down the road a little further; notably until the images of Trump being escorted out of the Oval Office and onto a plane destined for Florida are blazened into history's retnas.

#11 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2020-08-14 07:51 PM | Reply

A little more anecdotal evidence:

Four Ways to Safely Cast Your Ballot Without USPS

August 6, 2020 - By Marc Elias

I'm sure this isn't the only story on the subject.

If people really want to know how to register their vote locally, all they'll have to do is Google it on their phones.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-14 07:58 PM | Reply

Speaks, you wanna know what you can do to help your neighbors make sure their votes get in on time?

Organize community ballot collection. Many states allow designated organizations, election officials or family members to collect a voter's signed and sealed ballot and submit the ballot on behalf of the voter. This option is vital for high-risk voters who are unable to leave their home to cast a ballot. Check who can collect your ballot in your state.
There is no doubt that I will either be collecting ballots or collecting early voters when I have the time to do so. Make sure that people who agree with YOUR views can get to the ballot box and vote for your preferred candidates. That how you gain allies where it counts, and yes, it starts with you and those like you taking things into your own hands multiplied by thousands.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2020-08-14 08:21 PM | Reply

"You're right about it not being 2016 anymore: This time, Trump has the entire weight of the federal government behind his cheating apparatus."

I agree with you Joe, but the Dems may also have a law problem.

Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC...crime has been skyrocketing. And writ large, progressives are unwilling to challenge the criminals./ Because they're either on the left or they're minorities.

This is where Trump makes his stand.

It doesn't need to be this way, Both Harris and Biden are sold centrists. It just means abandoning the far left, and they're most likely not going to sit still.

#14 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-16 11:08 AM | Reply

The antifa class just needs a good ass kicking. Something to show that not everyone is going to accommodate spoiled brats/

#15 | Posted by madbomber at 2020-08-16 11:15 AM | Reply

"The antifa class just needs a good ass kicking."

Rand Paul got a good ass-kicking.
Did he get better, or did he get even stupider?

"Something to show that not everyone is going to accommodate spoiled brats"

Who's a bigger spoiled brat, Antifa or Trump?

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-16 11:20 AM | Reply

"Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC...crime has been skyrocketing. And writ large, progressives are unwilling to challenge the criminals."

Makes no sense.

Cops are the ones who challenge criminals.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2020-08-16 11:21 AM | Reply

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